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JAWS Scripting for a new application

John Martyn
 

Hi all,
While I wrap up some last minute scripting projects, I am looking for a new
application to script. I won't be doing any financial applications or office
applications this time, but any other suggestions are welcome.
I've gotten rather quick at doing this so challenges are also welcome.
John Martyn


adobe reader

cecropia64
 

HI FOLKS. SMALL PROBLEM. I'M USING JAWS NINE AND WINDOWS XP. LATELY, IT SEEMS LIKE WHENEVER I TRY TO GET A PDF FILE TO READ, ADOBE COMES UP BUT THE FILE ITSELF DOESN'T. IT SEEMS TO STOP ONCE ACROBAT LOADS. ANY SUGGESTIONS? SHOULD I UNINSTALL AND THEN REINSTALL ACROBAT OR IS THERE AN EARLIER VERSON I SHOULD BE USING. IT SEEMED TO WORK FINE FOR AWHILE, BUT NOW NOTHING.THANKS
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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

--------------------------------------------------Thankyou Brandon
Sandy

From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:49 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Hello,
It is a PDF to TXT converter that I got off the Program-L list. It is developed by Jamal Mazrui the owner of the:
http://www.empowermentzone.com/
Which is a sight that is filled with information and articles for just about every aspect of a blind person's life.
If you want other programs as well, you might want to go to:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/
These programs are for a little more advanced computer users but there might be something there that sounds cool.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: sandy stegmayer
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Brandon,

What is this and where does it come from?

Thanks,
Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:43 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Hello,
Have you tried using:
http://EmpowermentZone.com/p2tsetup.exe

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Miller
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I
called Benefits.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
It is a PDF to TXT converter that I got off the Program-L list. It is developed by Jamal Mazrui the owner of the:
http://www.empowermentzone.com/
Which is a sight that is filled with information and articles for just about every aspect of a blind person's life.
If you want other programs as well, you might want to go to:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/
These programs are for a little more advanced computer users but there might be something there that sounds cool.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: sandy stegmayer
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Brandon,

What is this and where does it come from?

Thanks,
Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:43 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Hello,
Have you tried using:
http://EmpowermentZone.com/p2tsetup.exe

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Miller
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I
called Benefits.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Re: Research It was a few questions:

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

yeah, go to the websites directly and look up what you want.
ResearchIt will break whenever something on the target site changes. This issue comes up here all the time.

At 06:29 AM 10/23/2011, you wrote:
Speaking of Research It, I have had some success with several categories,
but no success with others. I have used the amazon, area code, weather, and
some of the news sites. I can't get any results with the wiktionary,
wikipedia or MLB choices. I am using JAWS 12. Any hints for more success?
Thanks.

Joni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenny Peyatt" <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:56 PM
Subject: a few questions:


Hi blake One feature you will like in jaws is called research it. And if you
like sports it has a few neat gadgets for sports.

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Re: Research It was a few questions:

Dave...
 

Joni,

Sports scores, stocks, and a couple others do not work in JAWS 12. Most have
been fixed with JAWS 13. Wiki has always worked for me in all versions.

Problem with ResearchIt is that it is dependent on the underlying web pages
not changing . ResearchIt breaks when they do, since it needs to have the
key items in a particular place, or via a particular type of web page
element.

ResearchIt will likely always be something that needs fixing since many web
pages are in a state of continual flux.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joni Colver" <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 03:29
Subject: Research It was Re: a few questions:


Speaking of Research It, I have had some success with several categories,
but no success with others. I have used the amazon, area code, weather, and
some of the news sites. I can't get any results with the wiktionary,
wikipedia or MLB choices. I am using JAWS 12. Any hints for more success?
Thanks.

Joni
----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:56 PM
Subject: a few questions:


Hi blake One feature you will like in jaws is called research it. And if you
like sports it has a few neat gadgets for sports.

Kenny Peyatt


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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

Brandon,

What is this and where does it come from?

Thanks,
Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:43 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Hello,
Have you tried using:
http://EmpowermentZone.com/p2tsetup.exe

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Miller
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I
called Benefits.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Research It was a few questions:

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

Speaking of Research It, I have had some success with several categories,
but no success with others. I have used the amazon, area code, weather, and
some of the news sites. I can't get any results with the wiktionary,
wikipedia or MLB choices. I am using JAWS 12. Any hints for more success?
Thanks.

Joni

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From: "Kenny Peyatt" <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:56 PM
Subject: a few questions:


Hi blake One feature you will like in jaws is called research it. And if you
like sports it has a few neat gadgets for sports.

Kenny Peyatt


a few questions:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi blake One feature you will like in jaws is called research it. And if you
like sports it has a few neat gadgets for sports.

Kenny Peyatt

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Re: Pitch changes not holding in Eloquence.

ptusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,
Yes, thanks.
I am doing that.

Also I not only changed the P C cursor voice , buti changed the pitch (raising it)
for the "Menu" and for the "keyboard" cursors as thetech support peopletold me.

In Windows Explorer, I have many folders of information which read badly.

Using Access 32, the folders read much better.
Tell me. I changed 3 of the 4 cursors towhat I wanted and
I am stuck with the lousy JAWS-cursor sound
when I go through those folders in Explorer.

Also links on the web also
are read without the intonation or pitchI had hoped for.
This is why a global pitch option for Eloquence would be so helpful.

My hearing tends toward higher frequencies and that is common.

Access 32 had a global adjustment.
Windows 7 is not going to be a fun experience
without the right pitch in Eloquence.

I realize many like Eloquence. In X P, we had so many more optionsfor synthesizers.

Please do not bring up REal Speak; there reading speeds are not competitive in real world of work. The wordsandsounds mush together at 200 words per minute.

I needa global adjustment for Eloquence.

Many thanks!!!!

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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: Pitch changes not holding in Eloquence.


Works fine for me, any version of JAWS.
Are you changing the pitch in the following way:

Insert+J
Options
Voices
Voice Adjustments
Then make sure you do a "Save As" so you keep your settings.

Otherwise the default will return.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 17:50
Subject: Pitch changes not holding in Eloquence.


Hi,



I have worked at this for hours.

Often the changes I make in Individual voices using Eloquence do not hold.

This is in various JAWS versions.



When I used Access 32, I could ajust the pitch and the changes would
stic

Because one could adjust the pitch globally!!





1. I changed the pitch for the PC voice option. .

Often

WhenI leftarrow, the pitch changes that I assigned for the P C voice
option do not hold.



2. When I read by whole word, the changes made for the PC

option never work.

I am stuck with the sound of the JAWS voice pitch.





3. When up arrowing the PC voice pitch changes I make often may or may
not hold.

I am stuck with the JAWS voice.



4. There appears to be no global way to keep the same pitch using
Eloquenceas there is "under" GLOBAL, no pitch slider whatsoever!





5. I must go through hundreds of file or document names like very long
file names.

The correct pitch which I adopt for the PC voice fail every time.



Because reading file names and document names is vital, I need to
understand clearly acronyms or abbreviations such

As a shortened series or words in a document name. The document names read
perfectly using Access 32. a The PC voice is not available to me hence the
acronyms in document names can mush



Many people shorten words in naming documents which read perfectly using
Access 32.



This last issue is most bothersome s I rely on clear reading of document
names.

And need clear reading of numbers and specifications.



How can one get the PC voice pitch for use in the reading long file or
document names?





Thanks.

Need a solution.






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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

HiRick,

Okay. In Kurzweil do a cntrl-O
Now do a shft-tab and you should hear "the selected folder is general"
Hit the left arrow key untill you hear "c, contains folders"
Hit the right arrow once and you are now in a list of your c folders
Arrow down untill you find your benefits folder and then hit enter. Voila! Kurzweil should start converting your PDF file to a KES file
You can then save it in whatever format you like. I usually choose plain text .
If benefits is not in that list, it is a subfolder of one of the ones lissted. Mosst of mine are in the "users" folder. By arrowing around, you can find any file on your computer and open it in Kurzweil.
If this doesn't work for you, let me know.
Although Kurzweil does convert PDFs, I prefer to use the accessibility conversion program from Adobe because it seems to work faster than Kurzweil.
Good luck,
Sandy

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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:38 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I called Benefits.


Rick Miller


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Re: several questions

Blake <blake@...>
 

Thanks very much.

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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: several questions


the first jaws has a thing in researcher that can help with the first. doing insert down arrow you can read the document. get the jaws beta 13 from freedom scientific. Also jaws 13 has basic training files that you can listen or read.

-----Original Message-----
From: Blake
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:27 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: several questions

Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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Re: several questions

Blake <blake@...>
 

Thanks a lot for this, it is much appreciated.

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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: several questions


Blake,

Welcome aboard.

1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest
version?

- Not sure in your region. There may be a dealer for Freedom Scientific, and
I recommend you work through them for your purchases, licenses, etc. If you
send a question to Freedom Scientific via support@freedomscientific.com you
should get an answer in a business day's time.

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

- JAWS uses the numpad keys a lot in its general reading commands. Also
alternate commands are used on a laptop. Reading a web page top-to-bottom
can actually occur automatically if you have JAWS set to its defaults. But
as another lister has said Insert with the numpad downarrow (2) is one way
to read the whole page.

- Also in web pages there are several single-letter commands that jump you
to links, tables, lists, headings, non-links, etc. Very efficient way to get
to the important parts of a web page. JAWS also has a feature that allows it
to automatically revert to edit mode when you land on a form field.

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

- That's a hard question. Reading the current line is Insert+uparrow.
Reading the previous word or punctuation is Insert+leftarrow. Reading down a
page line-by-line is just the downarrow. Again the Insert+xxx are on the
numpad. but just reading line-by-line could be either the numpad downarrow
or the cursor downarrow. Again the numpad is used a lot but there are also
alternates on a laptop keyboard. Best suggestion is that you download the
current JAWS 12 demo file from the web site. I know that someone said to
download the latest JAWS 13 beta, but that will convert to a released
product soon and then will revert to the same demo mode. For just starting,
there's no point in overloading you with beta issues.

- You didn't tell us what operating system you're using. I'm presuming
Windows but which? Running XP Pro or Windows 7 Pro/Enterprise/Ultimate all
require JAWS Professional, which is more expensive. You need to decide that
before you jump in.

- The web site is www.freedomscientific.com and to get to the JAWS demo
click on "blindness products" "downloads" "JAWS" and then you should be on
the page with the JAWS 12 free demo download. The demo will run 40 minutes
and then you need to reboot to do some more. A bit irritating, but gives you
an idea.

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you
have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be
simply fantastic!!

D- don't know about a dialog box, so you will have to accept my word of
honor that I read your message.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 04:27
Subject: several questions


Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the
end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able
to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest
version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you
have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be
simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
Have you tried using:
http://EmpowermentZone.com/p2tsetup.exe

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Miller
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I
called Benefits.


Rick Miller


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From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


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From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
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something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Rick Miller
 

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I called Benefits.


Rick Miller

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From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


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From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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live messinger 15

Graham Smith <g.smith577@...>
 

Hi

I am using live messsinger 15 with a lot of success. However, I am having one very bad difficulty being that I cannot seem to add new contacts.

The problem seems to be adding people with earlier versions of messinger. I was able to add a contact that was using the same version, we did this by both simply just adding each other, all worked fine, there was no invitation or acceptance boxes involved.

I have tried to add another contact using an earlier version and I have this problem: they are showing in my off line list although they are online, they can send me a message and I receive it in the normal way, however when I try to reply I am told that the following messages could not be delivered.

I am aware of the show as off line options and think this is all good my end.

Can anyone shed any light on this please?

Regards

Graham


Re: several questions

Dave...
 

Blake,

Welcome aboard.

1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest
version?

- Not sure in your region. There may be a dealer for Freedom Scientific, and
I recommend you work through them for your purchases, licenses, etc. If you
send a question to Freedom Scientific via support@freedomscientific.com you
should get an answer in a business day's time.

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

- JAWS uses the numpad keys a lot in its general reading commands. Also
alternate commands are used on a laptop. Reading a web page top-to-bottom
can actually occur automatically if you have JAWS set to its defaults. But
as another lister has said Insert with the numpad downarrow (2) is one way
to read the whole page.

- Also in web pages there are several single-letter commands that jump you
to links, tables, lists, headings, non-links, etc. Very efficient way to get
to the important parts of a web page. JAWS also has a feature that allows it
to automatically revert to edit mode when you land on a form field.

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

- That's a hard question. Reading the current line is Insert+uparrow.
Reading the previous word or punctuation is Insert+leftarrow. Reading down a
page line-by-line is just the downarrow. Again the Insert+xxx are on the
numpad. but just reading line-by-line could be either the numpad downarrow
or the cursor downarrow. Again the numpad is used a lot but there are also
alternates on a laptop keyboard. Best suggestion is that you download the
current JAWS 12 demo file from the web site. I know that someone said to
download the latest JAWS 13 beta, but that will convert to a released
product soon and then will revert to the same demo mode. For just starting,
there's no point in overloading you with beta issues.

- You didn't tell us what operating system you're using. I'm presuming
Windows but which? Running XP Pro or Windows 7 Pro/Enterprise/Ultimate all
require JAWS Professional, which is more expensive. You need to decide that
before you jump in.

- The web site is www.freedomscientific.com and to get to the JAWS demo
click on "blindness products" "downloads" "JAWS" and then you should be on
the page with the JAWS 12 free demo download. The demo will run 40 minutes
and then you need to reboot to do some more. A bit irritating, but gives you
an idea.

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you
have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be
simply fantastic!!

D- don't know about a dialog box, so you will have to accept my word of
honor that I read your message.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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From: "Blake" <blake@sailport.com.au>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 04:27
Subject: several questions


Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the
end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able
to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest
version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you
have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be
simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

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From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


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From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


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From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Re: several questions

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

the first jaws has a thing in researcher that can help with the first. doing insert down arrow you can read the document. get the jaws beta 13 from freedom scientific. Also jaws 13 has basic training files that you can listen or read.

-----Original Message-----
From: Blake
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:27 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: several questions

Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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several questions

Blake <blake@...>
 

Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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