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Re: Jaws 11 / Focus 40 BT

Londa Peterson <lpeterson@...>
 

I don't think you can do contracted Braille input with JAWS 11. I think you
need 12 or higher. Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 11 / Focus 40 BT

Thanks. I do find the contracted braille option there but that seems to be
for just the display itself, not the keyboard input style. The display is
showing contracted content. I noticed it was set to use a Pacmate display as
the default and corrected it to a FOCUS display, but it didn't make any
obvious changes to what is happening. Obviously the Pacmate display (when
removed and used as a standalone) is just that-- a display. The FOCUS 40 BT
is a Braille Keyboard and a Display.

Then again, the menu option only says "FOCUS", and I think all except the
Bluetooth FOCUS display have no braille keyboard. Maybe the proper driver is
simply missing? Hopefully I can get to them at FS on the phone soon. I think
either a driver is missing or I must be overlooking some sort of keyboard
preferences option somewhere...

I also have yet to get the keyboard working as a Bluetooth device. I can get
it to show up as "paired", but something is wrong when I use it that way--
nothing happens except that the device does come on and the device name pops
up in braille (and in the bluetooth list of the computer) so it is indeed
coming on. It simply has to be plugged in via USB right now to be used.

Most of the problem is probably my lack of familiarity with all of this
stuff. It is just all very different that what I'm familiar with. (I'm a
Macintosh Graphics person. )

If I figure anything out I'll post it in case others are interested.

Thanks,

Richard



On Nov 3, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:

Under setting center, go to Braille, general, translation options. I
suppose just tinker there, but it sounds like the right place.

Good luck!

Hi Richard,

I don't know the answer to your question, but Freedom Scientific
might. You may want to give them a call.

1-727-803-8600.

Kim

On 11/2/11, Richard Holloway <rholloway@gopbc.org> wrote:
My daughter has been using her FS Focus 40 BT in uncontracted braille
mode
with Jaws 11 for quite a while, but she had use one before in
contracted
mode. I believe she said it always displays contracted but she has to
type
uncontracted. I actually didn't realize the keyboard was running
uncontracted as she flies along pretty quickly and it looks the same to
confused sighted parents like myself trying to keep track of our
braille-using kids.

Can someone tell me how to toggle between contracted and uncontracted
(grade
2 / grade 1) please? I suspect it is a simple keystroke, but I'm not
finding
the solution in the print manual, nor does my third grader see it in
the
braille version. (She's actually often able to find things like this
for
herself.)

Thanks so much for any help with this.
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Re: SMA Notice

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have
thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price
of such a one-time purchase.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: SMA Notice

No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over

US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form
promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert
the
use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They

guard those dongles with enormous zeal.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30
Subject: Re: SMA Notice


Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing.
Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize"
option
to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back.

Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific
somehow?



On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote:

Richard,

Interesting. I've got a PacMate that I rarely use any more, and never
paid
much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"
under
the
Advanced button in Options/Basics. Very interesting, indeed. And here
I
just
purchased and received my dongle to avoid those annoying
non-authorization
issues.

I'll have to give it a try some time.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 14:21
Subject: Re: SMA Notice


What's not to broadcast? This is not a secret illegal trick. At least
to
two
people I've spoken with at FS have made me aware of this. I get there
are
reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. I
support
it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for a
single
user of the product. My question is if I am paying over and over for
the
same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.
Perhaps
several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.

FS, while trying to sell me a new PAC MATE told me at a trade show
that a
PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a license
to
run
a full version of JAWS so long as the PAC Mate is hooked to the
computer.
Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makes
sense,
you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each has
JAWS
installed.

As I already had a $1000 copy of JAWS 11 on the desktop machine, I had
no
way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much when
I
bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includes
apparently
includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions are
supported by the PAC Mate connection and how this is enabled.

I have been hesitant to install a v12 or v13 demo on this machine to
test
as
I don't want to mess anything up on the full install of v.11. I was
hoping
to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.

When FS called a while back to try and get me to buy a new SMA (and to
upgrade to v.12, just before V.13 came out) the sales guy confirmed
JAWS
is
included with a PAC Mate in this way, so again, I think this is quite
legit., I just want to figure out any limitations and options with
this
feature.

Richard



On Nov 3, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

As Joni explained earlier this afternoon, there are unsung reasons to
stay
current with JAWS, specifically the behind-the-scenes adjustments
that FS
makes to developments on the Web.

Your daughter would soon find 40-minute mode frustrating because
she'd
keep
being interrupted in the middle of her thought process by the need to
reboot.

I can't comment on your Pac Mate point, and I'm not sure you want to
broadcast it, even assuming the suggestion works.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Richard Holloway
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: SMA Notice

Here's a question I have: apparently one can enable JAWS to run from
a
demo
copy (without the demo timer turning it off) by hooking up a PAC Mate
(if
you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past
summer.)
Well, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because
my
daughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex.

Does anyone know the deal with this? I mean, isn't demo JAWS the same
as
$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes?

We bought JAWS 9 with the SMA that got us to 11 and we're doing okay
for
now. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us?
We've
never called for support after the initial setup all the way from
from
v.9
to 10 to 11 so I'm not seeing that as a justification, and this is on
a
desktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just
plugging in a USB cable, right?

What am I missing? We've never tried this because we've always had a
paid
copy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to
look to
the future.




On Nov 3, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Joni Colver wrote:

Dave, the final price was actually closer to $600 than $500 by the
time I paid the sales tax and shipment of the CD/DVD he insisted I
had
to have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that
there
is a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5
and
JAWS 12.
People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to
version, but I was limping along and frustrated beyond belief trying
to do much online. I am always a reluctant upgrader, so I need the
nudge to do so by having the SMA.

To the person who suggested that SMA stands for send money again, I
got a kick out of that.

Joni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptoject: Re: SMA Notice


Joni,

Another way to look at your situation, is in how much money you
actually saved. If you had kept current, going from JAWS 6 through
15
would have been
5 SMA at $120 each for a total of $600. You got current + SMA for
$100
less.

So you came out ahead. Congratulations!

Of course I'm not accounting for inflation and the value of the
dollar
in all this, but still...


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Re: installing jfw without burning a key

Adrian Spratt
 

Kimsan,

This isn't a complete answer, but keep these points in mind.

List members have said you shouldn't install a version of JAWS that is
earlier than one you have on your system. In the event that you want to, it
would seem logical to uninstall the higher version, then start installing
with the lower one, followed by the higher again.

I think you realize that installing a later version of JAWS on a system that
has an earlier version won't affect your authorization count.

So the question is whether you lose an authorization when you uninstall a
later version in order to add an earlier one and reinstall the later one.
It's now Monday, so you could call FS tech support, or maybe even better,
their authorization department for the procedure. As I recall, both
departments are at the same phone number, but each has its own extension.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 12:10 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key

I don't even have jaws 12 installed.

All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes.
I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left.
Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key

Kimsan,

So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no
more activations left on the FSActivate web site?

IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13.

If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from
your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12
should then run normally.

If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not
require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow
you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key
will not help.

So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you
can surmise.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30
Subject: installing jfw without burning a key


I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without
burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the
oldest version to the most current one.

I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it
is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time.



Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just
curious on how it would work if it would work.

Thanks.

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Re: installing jfw without burning a key

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I don't even have jaws 12 installed.

All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes.
I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left.
Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key

Kimsan,

So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no
more activations left on the FSActivate web site?

IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13.

If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from
your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12
should then run normally.

If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not
require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow
you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key
will not help.

So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you
can surmise.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30
Subject: installing jfw without burning a key


I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without
burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the
oldest version to the most current one.

I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it
is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time.



Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just
curious on how it would work if it would work.

Thanks.

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Re: help with punctuation

Dave...
 

Dante - OE is Outlook Express.
Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 19:44
Subject: RE: help with punctuation


What does OE stand for, does anybody know?

Dondi

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On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

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Re: installing jfw without burning a key

Dave...
 

Kimsan,

So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no
more activations left on the FSActivate web site?

IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13.

If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from
your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12
should then run normally.

If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not
require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow
you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key
will not help.

So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you
can surmise.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30
Subject: installing jfw without burning a key


I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without
burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the
oldest version to the most current one.

I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it
is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time.



Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just
curious on how it would work if it would work.

Thanks.

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Re: help with punctuation

Dondi
 

What does OE stand for, does anybody know?

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

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When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
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Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
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Re: Word Press

Cliff Self
 

I asked the same question and got no answer, so I suspect the answer is no. When searching for scripts I found some tutorials on managing WordPress widgits with Jaws. You can probably find them by searching for those terms.

However, the program is extremely graphical. I've had to ask my sighted wife to manage my website for me.

Cliff

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Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:03 PM
Subject: Word Press


Hi JAWS Users
Is their a script written for Word Press?
I am using JAWS 12 with W7.
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Re: Email alert

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Roger,

If you are referring to where all the default sounds are kept, go to the
following;

C:\WINDOWS\Media

This is for both XP & Windows7. Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike

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Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 1:41 PM
Subject: Email alert


I'm trying to setup separate sounds for five email accounts. I am
using Thunderbird. Does anyone know where to find sounds?

Roger

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installing jfw without burning a key

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without
burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the
oldest version to the most current one.

I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it
is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time.



Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just
curious on how it would work if it would work.

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Email alert

Roger White
 

I'm trying to setup separate sounds for five email accounts. I am using Thunderbird. Does anyone know where to find sounds?

Roger


Re: help with punctuation

Dean Martineau <dean@...>
 

Indeed, I did not test rigorously enough. Insert+V doesn't hold the
setting.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:20 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Dean,

While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation setting
would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It didn't. Other
listers and I have found the same thing in the past, hence the convoluted
ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar punctuation setup.

If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it works for
you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly wish it did.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in
effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

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Re: help with punctuation

Adrian Spratt
 

Yes, Ann, but only for all applications. You'd need to set up a voice
profile for use of a particular punctuation setting with a specific
application.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In the JAWS voices menu--insert-j, alt-down arrow to voices--you can change
punctuation, ... and it sticks!
At 08:19 AM 11/6/2011, you wrote:
Dean,

While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation
setting would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It
didn't. Other listers and I have found the same thing in the past,
hence the convoluted ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar
punctuation setup.

If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it
works for you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly
wish it did.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P,
you can adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting
remains in effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12
and earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version
of an earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing
down to and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter
on voice adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different
levels of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this
requires creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest
how this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously
complicated for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from
time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and
hopefully simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile
oe, as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In
the configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to
none, unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the
Profile, there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so
that it would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation,
and would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to
bring up the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options,
voices, select profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said:
For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I
set in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged
with Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in
note pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just
read my email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the
dictionary as a space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: some useful information;

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

To turn off the UAC in windows7 do the following;

1, go to the start menu edit box,
Type in UAC,
Then you can enter on the user account control;
Now, you can set it to zero,
You will then be prompted to restart computer, say yes,
Once computer has restarted UAC is not on,
Again, I say, once your finished a task,
I would perform the same steps, and reactivate the UAC,
I believe the default is 66%, I set mine to 100,
Note, I am not saying you set to 100,
It's just my preference.
Have a good day.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: some useful information;

How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

User Access Control,

Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a
little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically
needing an administrator rights account to use their personal
computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to
numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account
only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always,
and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to
perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't
quite caught up to this new reality.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once
we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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Re: some useful information;

Soronel Haetir
 

Go to control panel -> User Accounts, on the window that comes up
there is a "Change User Access Control settings" link.

I would, however, highly recommend that you only disable UAC for tasks
that absolutely require it, like updating the jaws authorization.
After performing whatever incompatible task is complete I would
strongly urge that you re-enable UAC.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

User Access Control,

Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a
little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically
needing an administrator rights account to use their personal
computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to
numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account
only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always,
and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to
perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't
quite caught up to this new reality.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once
we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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Re: help with punctuation

Ann Byrne
 

In the JAWS voices menu--insert-j, alt-down arrow to voices--you can change punctuation, ... and it sticks!

At 08:19 AM 11/6/2011, you wrote:
Dean,

While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation setting
would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It didn't. Other
listers and I have found the same thing in the past, hence the convoluted
ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar punctuation setup.

If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it works for
you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly wish it did.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in
effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: help with punctuation

Adrian Spratt
 

Dean,

While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation setting
would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It didn't. Other
listers and I have found the same thing in the past, hence the convoluted
ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar punctuation setup.

If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it works for
you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly wish it did.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in
effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

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On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

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When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
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Simon and Sarah

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Re: help with punctuation

Phyllis Stevens <catlady1949@...>
 

Thanks dean! Also! I am having trouble with numbers big time! I don't want to hear it's 1 1 colon 0 6 A M--- I want eleven o six A M. Also I am hearing in RS games Monopoly that I have 3 2 7 4 7 dollars and I rolled a 2, six. Yikes! I just hate this! One would think that if you merged settings with a version you had tweaked, it would make the current version work right! One doesn't have a global option any more, least I couldn't find one!

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Re: help with punctuation

Dean Martineau <dean@...>
 

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in
effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: some useful information;

Drew Hunthausen
 

Thanks so so much!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:39 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: some useful information;

Turning off the UAC in win seven do the following.

Windows key for the start menu, in the search field type in user accounts
and press enter on the result user accounts.

In the following screen, tab until you hear change user account control
settings and press enter.
Now tab to the notification level slider.
It will be set to 66 by default, so use your down arrow key to 0.
After doing that tab to ok and you are done.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

Drew,

Not sure, but it is possible. Go to a Windows 7 list or a windows for blind
list and ask; I'm sure someone there will be able to give you an answer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 19:17
Subject: RE: some useful information;


How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

User Access Control,

Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a
little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically
needing an administrator rights account to use their personal
computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to
numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account
only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always,
and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to
perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't
quite caught up to this new reality.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once
we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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