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Re: help with punctuation

Dave...
 

Dante - OE is Outlook Express.
Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 19:44
Subject: RE: help with punctuation


What does OE stand for, does anybody know?

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: installing jfw without burning a key

Dave...
 

Kimsan,

So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no
more activations left on the FSActivate web site?

IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13.

If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from
your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12
should then run normally.

If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not
require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow
you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key
will not help.

So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you
can surmise.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30
Subject: installing jfw without burning a key


I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without
burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the
oldest version to the most current one.

I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it
is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time.



Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just
curious on how it would work if it would work.

Thanks.

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Re: help with punctuation

Dondi
 

What does OE stand for, does anybody know?

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: Word Press

Cliff Self
 

I asked the same question and got no answer, so I suspect the answer is no. When searching for scripts I found some tutorials on managing WordPress widgits with Jaws. You can probably find them by searching for those terms.

However, the program is extremely graphical. I've had to ask my sighted wife to manage my website for me.

Cliff

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From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:03 PM
Subject: Word Press


Hi JAWS Users
Is their a script written for Word Press?
I am using JAWS 12 with W7.
John Sherrer


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Re: Email alert

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Roger,

If you are referring to where all the default sounds are kept, go to the
following;

C:\WINDOWS\Media

This is for both XP & Windows7. Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike

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From: Roger White
To: JFW@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 1:41 PM
Subject: Email alert


I'm trying to setup separate sounds for five email accounts. I am
using Thunderbird. Does anyone know where to find sounds?

Roger

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installing jfw without burning a key

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without
burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the
oldest version to the most current one.

I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it
is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time.



Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just
curious on how it would work if it would work.

Thanks.

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Email alert

Roger White
 

I'm trying to setup separate sounds for five email accounts. I am using Thunderbird. Does anyone know where to find sounds?

Roger


Re: help with punctuation

Dean Martineau <dean@...>
 

Indeed, I did not test rigorously enough. Insert+V doesn't hold the
setting.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:20 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Dean,

While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation setting
would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It didn't. Other
listers and I have found the same thing in the past, hence the convoluted
ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar punctuation setup.

If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it works for
you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly wish it did.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in
effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: help with punctuation

Adrian Spratt
 

Yes, Ann, but only for all applications. You'd need to set up a voice
profile for use of a particular punctuation setting with a specific
application.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In the JAWS voices menu--insert-j, alt-down arrow to voices--you can change
punctuation, ... and it sticks!
At 08:19 AM 11/6/2011, you wrote:
Dean,

While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation
setting would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It
didn't. Other listers and I have found the same thing in the past,
hence the convoluted ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar
punctuation setup.

If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it
works for you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly
wish it did.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P,
you can adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting
remains in effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12
and earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version
of an earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing
down to and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter
on voice adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different
levels of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this
requires creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest
how this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously
complicated for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from
time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and
hopefully simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile
oe, as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In
the configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to
none, unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the
Profile, there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so
that it would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation,
and would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to
bring up the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options,
voices, select profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said:
For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I
set in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged
with Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in
note pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just
read my email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the
dictionary as a space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: some useful information;

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

To turn off the UAC in windows7 do the following;

1, go to the start menu edit box,
Type in UAC,
Then you can enter on the user account control;
Now, you can set it to zero,
You will then be prompted to restart computer, say yes,
Once computer has restarted UAC is not on,
Again, I say, once your finished a task,
I would perform the same steps, and reactivate the UAC,
I believe the default is 66%, I set mine to 100,
Note, I am not saying you set to 100,
It's just my preference.
Have a good day.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: some useful information;

How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

User Access Control,

Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a
little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically
needing an administrator rights account to use their personal
computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to
numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account
only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always,
and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to
perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't
quite caught up to this new reality.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once
we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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Re: some useful information;

Soronel Haetir
 

Go to control panel -> User Accounts, on the window that comes up
there is a "Change User Access Control settings" link.

I would, however, highly recommend that you only disable UAC for tasks
that absolutely require it, like updating the jaws authorization.
After performing whatever incompatible task is complete I would
strongly urge that you re-enable UAC.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

User Access Control,

Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a
little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically
needing an administrator rights account to use their personal
computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to
numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account
only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always,
and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to
perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't
quite caught up to this new reality.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once
we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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Re: help with punctuation

Ann Byrne
 

In the JAWS voices menu--insert-j, alt-down arrow to voices--you can change punctuation, ... and it sticks!

At 08:19 AM 11/6/2011, you wrote:
Dean,

While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation setting
would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It didn't. Other
listers and I have found the same thing in the past, hence the convoluted
ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar punctuation setup.

If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it works for
you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly wish it did.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in
effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: help with punctuation

Adrian Spratt
 

Dean,

While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation setting
would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It didn't. Other
listers and I have found the same thing in the past, hence the convoluted
ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar punctuation setup.

If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it works for
you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly wish it did.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in
effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: help with punctuation

Phyllis Stevens <catlady1949@...>
 

Thanks dean! Also! I am having trouble with numbers big time! I don't want to hear it's 1 1 colon 0 6 A M--- I want eleven o six A M. Also I am hearing in RS games Monopoly that I have 3 2 7 4 7 dollars and I rolled a 2, six. Yikes! I just hate this! One would think that if you merged settings with a version you had tweaked, it would make the current version work right! One doesn't have a global option any more, least I couldn't find one!

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: help with punctuation

Dean Martineau <dean@...>
 

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in
effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

Phyllis,

From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
Simon and Sarah

catlady1949@charter.net



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Re: some useful information;

Drew Hunthausen
 

Thanks so so much!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:39 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: some useful information;

Turning off the UAC in win seven do the following.

Windows key for the start menu, in the search field type in user accounts
and press enter on the result user accounts.

In the following screen, tab until you hear change user account control
settings and press enter.
Now tab to the notification level slider.
It will be set to 66 by default, so use your down arrow key to 0.
After doing that tab to ok and you are done.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

Drew,

Not sure, but it is possible. Go to a Windows 7 list or a windows for blind
list and ask; I'm sure someone there will be able to give you an answer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 19:17
Subject: RE: some useful information;


How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

User Access Control,

Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a
little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically
needing an administrator rights account to use their personal
computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to
numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account
only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always,
and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to
perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't
quite caught up to this new reality.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once
we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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Re: some useful information;

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Turning off the UAC in win seven do the following.

Windows key for the start menu, in the search field type in user accounts
and press enter on the result user accounts.

In the following screen, tab until you hear change user account control
settings and press enter.
Now tab to the notification level slider.
It will be set to 66 by default, so use your down arrow key to 0.
After doing that tab to ok and you are done.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

Drew,

Not sure, but it is possible. Go to a Windows 7 list or a windows for blind
list and ask; I'm sure someone there will be able to give you an answer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 19:17
Subject: RE: some useful information;


How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

User Access Control,

Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a
little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically
needing an administrator rights account to use their personal
computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to
numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account
only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always,
and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to
perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't
quite caught up to this new reality.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once
we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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Re: some useful information;

Dave...
 

Drew,

Not sure, but it is possible. Go to a Windows 7 list or a windows for blind
list and ask; I'm sure someone there will be able to give you an answer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 19:17
Subject: RE: some useful information;


How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

User Access Control,

Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a
little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically
needing an administrator rights account to use their personal
computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to
numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account
only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always,
and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to
perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't
quite caught up to this new reality.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once
we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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Re: some useful information;

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

UAC stands for User Account Control.

At 09:50 PM 11/5/2011, you wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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Re: some useful information;

Drew Hunthausen
 

How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: some useful information;

User Access Control,

Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a
little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically
needing an administrator rights account to use their personal
computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to
numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account
only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always,
and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to
perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't
quite caught up to this new reality.

On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the UAC? thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: some useful information;

Good afternoon to all;

I hope the following will be of some help to someone.
I just got finished helping one of my clients with updating her jaws.

She contacted me saying "My jaws just won't update!
No matter what I do!
So I gave her a call,
She's right, her jaws wouldn't update,
Until I turned off the UAC in vista.
Once I turned off the UAC? Boom, her jaws was immediately activated, once
we
went to the activation over the internet.
Now I'm not implying that this is for all cases, however, if one runs into
the same difficulty, I would turn off the UAC, your computer will need to
restart,
Then activate,
Go through the startup wizard,
Once everything is okay,
Turn back on the UAC,
And restart the computer.
Note, make sure you have the jaws13 set to start.

Hope this will be helpful for someone.

Have a good day.




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