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Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

Dave...
 

Negoslav,

We are all becoming so politically-correct. I do hope that the true
originator hasn't been expecting any paid royalties for the suggestion.

Negoslav, do you perhaps know how the Ctrl-F6 keystroke could be assigned to
a single-letter navigation key, such as are used in web browsing?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Negoslav Sabev" <negi4a@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:27
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar


And to be fully fair, I've read this on another list.

Negoslav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: RE: getting stuck in the tool bar


Thanks for the acknowledgment, Dave. In fairness, as I said in my post,
the
solution comes from Negoslav, in a message he posted some time ago.

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On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 1:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

Curtis,

Don't thank me, thank Adrian. He's the one who pointed it out, and it's
great. Freedom Scientific responded to my suggestion to make a
single-letter
navigation key to emulate Ctrl-f6 and they suggested I write my own
script,
but did pass it along to the suggestions folks. So toss that idea into the
round file.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 21:32
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar


thanks for this! control-f6, wish I'd have known b4.


At 11:35 AM 11/1/2011, you wrote:
Ed,

No, Ctrl+F6 has worked consistently since I learned about it. It's a
life-saver. FS really should put together a "tips and trick" seminar or
posting to their site. Perhaps add it to their Surf's Up presentation.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 08:49
Subject: RE: getting stuck in the tool bar


Just tried f-6. It did nothing. Control plus f-6, however, worked just
fine. Of course, perhaps that was more accident than anything else. This
is definitely a flakey problem.


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On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

f6, maybe, that sometimes gets me out.



At 10:17 AM 10/31/2011, you wrote:
IF tabbing does not get you out and just cycles through, it's usually
because the page has not finished loading. Try F5 to refresh.

I've also cursed at the whole IE interface every time I get "stuck" up
there
in that area. I've turned off everything I can think of and still there
are
elements that grab my cursor if I'm careless enough to tab beyond the
bottom
of a page.

Don't know any answers, as it's more to do with IE7 and IE8 layout than
JAWS.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <bvarner05@comcast.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 07:30
Subject: getting stuck in the tool bar


I have not figured out why I seem to get "stuck" in the tool bar. I'm
running 13 now but seemed to have the same problem with 12. Sometimes I
can
just hit tab a few times and get down into the page, other times hitting
tab
just cycles through the toolbar. Somtimes switching to the virtual
cursor
helps, other times nothing helps.



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Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

Negoslav Sabev
 

And to be fully fair, I've read this on another list.

Negoslav

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: RE: getting stuck in the tool bar


Thanks for the acknowledgment, Dave. In fairness, as I said in my post, the
solution comes from Negoslav, in a message he posted some time ago.

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On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 1:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

Curtis,

Don't thank me, thank Adrian. He's the one who pointed it out, and it's
great. Freedom Scientific responded to my suggestion to make a single-letter
navigation key to emulate Ctrl-f6 and they suggested I write my own script,
but did pass it along to the suggestions folks. So toss that idea into the
round file.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 21:32
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar


thanks for this! control-f6, wish I'd have known b4.


At 11:35 AM 11/1/2011, you wrote:
Ed,

No, Ctrl+F6 has worked consistently since I learned about it. It's a
life-saver. FS really should put together a "tips and trick" seminar or
posting to their site. Perhaps add it to their Surf's Up presentation.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 08:49
Subject: RE: getting stuck in the tool bar


Just tried f-6. It did nothing. Control plus f-6, however, worked just
fine. Of course, perhaps that was more accident than anything else. This
is definitely a flakey problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

f6, maybe, that sometimes gets me out.



At 10:17 AM 10/31/2011, you wrote:
IF tabbing does not get you out and just cycles through, it's usually
because the page has not finished loading. Try F5 to refresh.

I've also cursed at the whole IE interface every time I get "stuck" up
there
in that area. I've turned off everything I can think of and still there
are
elements that grab my cursor if I'm careless enough to tab beyond the
bottom
of a page.

Don't know any answers, as it's more to do with IE7 and IE8 layout than
JAWS.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <bvarner05@comcast.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 07:30
Subject: getting stuck in the tool bar


I have not figured out why I seem to get "stuck" in the tool bar. I'm
running 13 now but seemed to have the same problem with 12. Sometimes I
can
just hit tab a few times and get down into the page, other times hitting
tab
just cycles through the toolbar. Somtimes switching to the virtual
cursor
helps, other times nothing helps.



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Re: What kind of tech support is that?

Kimber Gardner
 

Thanks Matthew, I am going to try this.

And thanks to everyone else for your input. I realize that my
description is rather vague, but given the randomness of the
occurrence, it's about as specific as I can be.

My hope in contacting FS was two fold: first that if perhaps they had
heard the same report from others that there might have been a more
solid solution. second, that if they do hear the same report in future
that they might investigate something more conclusive than "try
deleting your settings."

I appreciate all the ideas that were offered.

K

On 11/2/11, Matthew Bullis <matthewbullis@runbox.com> wrote:
I believe you should be able to simulate resetting your Jaws settings if you
unload Jaws and then use the run dialog with Windows key R, then type
jaws13 /default
This way, it will reload Jaws, but it will act like it did when first
installed. Then you can see if the problem clears up.
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Re: what kind of support is that?:

Kimber Gardner
 

Yes, it's a focus 80 usb display.

K

On 11/2/11, Kenny Peyatt <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kimber What kind of Braille display are you using? Is it a focus display?


Kenny Peyatt

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Re: What kind of tech support is that?

Dave...
 

Matthew,

I think you've underscored Kimber's point. You've provided the clear concise
steps that could help her with the solution. The answer from FS support was
vague and useless.

Good job, and can you start working for FS support?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 09:20
Subject: Re: What kind of tech support is that?


I believe you should be able to simulate resetting your Jaws settings if you
unload Jaws and then use the run dialog with Windows key R, then type
jaws13 /default
This way, it will reload Jaws, but it will act like it did when first
installed. Then you can see if the problem clears up.
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what kind of support is that?:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi Kimber What kind of Braille display are you using? Is it a focus display?


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Re: What kind of tech support is that?

Richard Holloway
 

Respectfully, even if it didn't fix your problem that sort of thing is what is recommended to do first even when a lot of info is available with most electronic system problems.

Some problems may have more than one cause and it is not always practical to chase some specific detailed remedy before trying things like rebooting hardware or clearing out settings, preferences or the like. Failing to clear out questionable settings first may waste a lot of time or even introduce additional problems as you continue to troubleshoot.

I'm no FS expert by amy means, but that is what I have found in working with a lot of computers and electronics over the last 30 years or so. The fact that this is a new problem to you or that it may indeed be new with rev 13 doesn't mean clearing the settings would not clear the problem, right? It may be the cure for that or some similar problem with this current release.

Richard

On Nov 2, 2011, at 11:42 AM, john.falter wrote:

Sorry, but that is typical tech support from any company given the limited description of your problem.
Tech support couldn't recreate your problem and sent a vanilla solution.
Intermittant problems are very difficult to resolve.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:01 AM
Subject: What kind of tech support is that?


Hi All,

A week or so ago I posted to the list an issue I was having with Jaws
13 where in my braille display freezes at random times in random
applications. I emailed FS tech support as well and here is the answer
I received.

"Please try resetting your JAWS user settings. This often clears up
issues of this type."

Now maybe it's me, but what the heck kind of tech support is that? I
mean this is a brand new release and I'm reporting an issue that has
never happened in earlier releases and *that* is the answer I get?

Really FS needs to do better by its long-time customers.

Kimber

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Re: What kind of tech support is that?

Matthew Bullis <matthewbullis@...>
 

I believe you should be able to simulate resetting your Jaws settings if you unload Jaws and then use the run dialog with Windows key R, then type
jaws13 /default
This way, it will reload Jaws, but it will act like it did when first installed. Then you can see if the problem clears up.
Matthew


Re: What kind of tech support is that?

john.falter
 

Sorry, but that is typical tech support from any company given the limited description of your problem.
Tech support couldn't recreate your problem and sent a vanilla solution.
Intermittant problems are very difficult to resolve.

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From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:01 AM
Subject: What kind of tech support is that?


Hi All,

A week or so ago I posted to the list an issue I was having with Jaws
13 where in my braille display freezes at random times in random
applications. I emailed FS tech support as well and here is the answer
I received.

"Please try resetting your JAWS user settings. This often clears up
issues of this type."

Now maybe it's me, but what the heck kind of tech support is that? I
mean this is a brand new release and I'm reporting an issue that has
never happened in earlier releases and *that* is the answer I get?

Really FS needs to do better by its long-time customers.

Kimber

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Re: copying text from a web page

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

I should add that I think this insert v dialog option may have changed in
JAWS 13. I read a little about new features, but can't remember specifics
now and have not yet used JAWS 13. My experience I described is with JAWS
12. I will be venturing into JAWS 13 soon.

Joni

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: copying text from a web page


I was having trouble copying from web pages also with JAWS 12. Someone on
another list told me to try changing something in the adjust JAWS options
dialog while in Internet Explorer.



I hit insert v and then arrowed down a few times to virtual cursor options.



The first item said select and copy full content using on screen highlight.
I pressed the spacebar to toggle it to say select and copy from virtual
cursor. I then hit alt c to close the dialog. So far the setting has stuck
for me and it copies and pastes plain text into Word, without all of the
links and headings. It was a nice simple solution once I knew about it.



Joni

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: copying text from a web page


When I want to copy text off a web page, I select the text, use ctrl-c, then
paste it into notepad. this gets rid of all html (I think) and you get
plain text you can copy into Word or elsewhere. I used to do this for
medical transcription, especially drug names, then found that the medical
transcription software (ChartNet) pasted the html coding asociated with the
drug name instead of the plain text of the drug name. ChartNet is based on
Word so that might be why the html stuff was showing up instead of plain
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Re: copying text from a web page

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

I was having trouble copying from web pages also with JAWS 12. Someone on
another list told me to try changing something in the adjust JAWS options
dialog while in Internet Explorer.



I hit insert v and then arrowed down a few times to virtual cursor options.



The first item said select and copy full content using on screen highlight.
I pressed the spacebar to toggle it to say select and copy from virtual
cursor. I then hit alt c to close the dialog. So far the setting has stuck
for me and it copies and pastes plain text into Word, without all of the
links and headings. It was a nice simple solution once I knew about it.



Joni

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <bvarner05@comcast.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: copying text from a web page


When I want to copy text off a web page, I select the text, use ctrl-c, then
paste it into notepad. this gets rid of all html (I think) and you get
plain text you can copy into Word or elsewhere. I used to do this for
medical transcription, especially drug names, then found that the medical
transcription software (ChartNet) pasted the html coding asociated with the
drug name instead of the plain text of the drug name. ChartNet is based on
Word so that might be why the html stuff was showing up instead of plain
text.


Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

Curtis Delzer
 

:) thanks! though.

At 11:59 PM 11/1/2011, you wrote:
Curtis,

Don't thank me, thank Adrian. He's the one who pointed it out, and it's
great. Freedom Scientific responded to my suggestion to make a single-letter
navigation key to emulate Ctrl-f6 and they suggested I write my own script,
but did pass it along to the suggestions folks. So toss that idea into the
round file.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 21:32
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar


thanks for this! control-f6, wish I'd have known b4.


At 11:35 AM 11/1/2011, you wrote:
Ed,

No, Ctrl+F6 has worked consistently since I learned about it. It's a
life-saver. FS really should put together a "tips and trick" seminar or
posting to their site. Perhaps add it to their Surf's Up presentation.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 08:49
Subject: RE: getting stuck in the tool bar


Just tried f-6. It did nothing. Control plus f-6, however, worked just
fine. Of course, perhaps that was more accident than anything else. This
is definitely a flakey problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

f6, maybe, that sometimes gets me out.



At 10:17 AM 10/31/2011, you wrote:
IF tabbing does not get you out and just cycles through, it's usually
because the page has not finished loading. Try F5 to refresh.

I've also cursed at the whole IE interface every time I get "stuck" up
there
in that area. I've turned off everything I can think of and still there
are
elements that grab my cursor if I'm careless enough to tab beyond the
bottom
of a page.

Don't know any answers, as it's more to do with IE7 and IE8 layout than
JAWS.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <bvarner05@comcast.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 07:30
Subject: getting stuck in the tool bar


I have not figured out why I seem to get "stuck" in the tool bar. I'm
running 13 now but seemed to have the same problem with 12. Sometimes I
can
just hit tab a few times and get down into the page, other times hitting
tab
just cycles through the toolbar. Somtimes switching to the virtual
cursor
helps, other times nothing helps.



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copying text from a web page

Brian <bvarner05@...>
 

When I want to copy text off a web page, I select the text, use ctrl-c, then
paste it into notepad. this gets rid of all html (I think) and you get
plain text you can copy into Word or elsewhere. I used to do this for
medical transcription, especially drug names, then found that the medical
transcription software (ChartNet) pasted the html coding asociated with the
drug name instead of the plain text of the drug name. ChartNet is based on
Word so that might be why the html stuff was showing up instead of plain
text.

By the way, I was having problems with Internet Explorer being very slow to
open and going to links as new pages, etc. I tried to get rid of add ons
under internet options and when I'd get to the manage add ons button, JAWS
wouldn't navigate to the list of add ons reliably. FS support said JAWS
doesn't read this area very well. Then I was told to upgrade to Internet
Explorer 8. I was running 7. I tried doing that a couple of years ago and
had issues. A computer programmer friend came over and we had to reinstall
version 7 because XP seemed to be impossibly conjoined to version 7. This
morning, I downloaded IE 8 and things seem to be running much better. I've
not gotten stuck in the tool bar (yet) but now I'll be trying ctrl-F6 thanks
to the advice from this list.

Brian
***********
Hi folks! I am having problems copying and pasting text from a web-site to
a document. Not sure why, but I've never experienced this with other jaws
versions. Other than this, jfw 13 works fairly well for me.


Re: What kind of tech support is that?

Dave...
 

Kimber,

Agree that the suggestion is nebulous, but it just underscores that they
don't have a clue, or that they can't duplicate what you're experiencing.
The latter is usually what happens to me -- their exact setup matching mine
works just fine for them.

As to their suggestion of "resetting the JAWS user settings" all I can think
of is either clear out all your user-defined scripts from the ENU folder
(which you only do after backing them all up somewhere), or using the
settings center and setting the user dialog items to their default values.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 04:01
Subject: What kind of tech support is that?


Hi All,

A week or so ago I posted to the list an issue I was having with Jaws
13 where in my braille display freezes at random times in random
applications. I emailed FS tech support as well and here is the answer
I received.

"Please try resetting your JAWS user settings. This often clears up
issues of this type."

Now maybe it's me, but what the heck kind of tech support is that? I
mean this is a brand new release and I'm reporting an issue that has
never happened in earlier releases and *that* is the answer I get?

Really FS needs to do better by its long-time customers.

Kimber

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Re: What kind of tech support is that?

Debbie April Yuille <debbieyuille@...>
 

Well did you try that? Maybe that is the answer you are looking for. If you
did what they suggested and it didn't work, then write back to them.

Debbie
Email: debbieyuille@bigpond.com
MSN: apparating.girl@hotmail.com
Skype: apparating.girl
Twitter: DebbieYuille

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Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 10:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: What kind of tech support is that?

Hi All,

A week or so ago I posted to the list an issue I was having with Jaws
13 where in my braille display freezes at random times in random
applications. I emailed FS tech support as well and here is the answer
I received.

"Please try resetting your JAWS user settings. This often clears up
issues of this type."

Now maybe it's me, but what the heck kind of tech support is that? I
mean this is a brand new release and I'm reporting an issue that has
never happened in earlier releases and *that* is the answer I get?

Really FS needs to do better by its long-time customers.

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What kind of tech support is that?

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi All,

A week or so ago I posted to the list an issue I was having with Jaws
13 where in my braille display freezes at random times in random
applications. I emailed FS tech support as well and here is the answer
I received.

"Please try resetting your JAWS user settings. This often clears up
issues of this type."

Now maybe it's me, but what the heck kind of tech support is that? I
mean this is a brand new release and I'm reporting an issue that has
never happened in earlier releases and *that* is the answer I get?

Really FS needs to do better by its long-time customers.

Kimber


Re: JAWS dictionary

Adrian Spratt
 

No one has replied to Joni's query about transferring the JDF dictionary
file from JAWS 6 to either JAWS 12 or 13. I've always had success merging my
dictionary settings from one version to the next, but I doubt it would work
going from 6 to 12/13. If I'm wrong, please post.

Otherwise, can someone post simple instructions for adding personal
dictionary settings to a much later version. I know, for example, that the
JDF file path changed when FS included its name there, and I don't recall if
that change was in effect with JAWS 6. Below I'm copying a past post from
this list (apologies for not having the lister's name) and old FS
instructions on this general subject, but I can't be sure they work in
Joni's situation.

** Dictionary, copy from one version to another
To copy those scripts over to JAWS 10, first go to the enu folder in JAWS 9,
using the following path:

c:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Application Data\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\9.0\Settings\enu

Locate the script files you want to copy and highlight them; then, press
Control c to copy them to the clipboard. Now, go to the enu folder in JAWS
10, using the following path:

c:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Application Data\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\10.0\Settings\enu

Paste those script files into this enu folder. That should do it.

** Instructions from FS in 2002

To move dictionary files from a previous version to the current version, It
is best to copy the *.jdf files from the settings\enu folder of the older
version to the settings\enu folder of a current version.

for example, if you are attempting to move dictionary files from the Jaws
4.01.227 folder to the Jaws 4.02.52 folder, it can be done using the steps
below.

1. go to the run dialog (windows key+r)

2. Type in:

cmd

and hit enter

3. Type in:

cd\jaws401\settings\enu

and hit enter

4. Type in:

copy *.jdf c:\jaws402\settings\enu

and hit enter

This will move the dictionary files to the latest version. If you know the
name of the exact dictionary file, you can use the name of the file instead
of the *wild card.

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On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 3:26 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: JAWS dictionary

I am currently using a work computer with JAWS 6 installed on it. I am
apparently going to be getting a new computer from my employer, and I know a
later version of JAWS will be installed, although I don't know which one. I
have a lot of dictionary entries in the JAWS 6 version and I really need
them for work. Is there any way I can copy that file from the current work
computer and put it into the new version of JAWS when I receive that
computer? I don't know if it would be possible or wise to put a JAWS 6 jdf
file into JAWS 11 or 12 or whatever version of JAWS I am going to work with.

If this is not possible, is there a way I can get a list of the dictionary
entries onto the clipboard and paste them somewhere so I know what I have
added, or will I have to arrow through the list one by one and write them
down? That could be quite a task. Thanks in advance for any help.

Joni


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Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

Adrian Spratt
 

Thanks for the acknowledgment, Dave. In fairness, as I said in my post, the
solution comes from Negoslav, in a message he posted some time ago.

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On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 1:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

Curtis,

Don't thank me, thank Adrian. He's the one who pointed it out, and it's
great. Freedom Scientific responded to my suggestion to make a single-letter
navigation key to emulate Ctrl-f6 and they suggested I write my own script,
but did pass it along to the suggestions folks. So toss that idea into the
round file.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 21:32
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar


thanks for this! control-f6, wish I'd have known b4.


At 11:35 AM 11/1/2011, you wrote:
Ed,

No, Ctrl+F6 has worked consistently since I learned about it. It's a
life-saver. FS really should put together a "tips and trick" seminar or
posting to their site. Perhaps add it to their Surf's Up presentation.

Dave Carlson
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 08:49
Subject: RE: getting stuck in the tool bar


Just tried f-6. It did nothing. Control plus f-6, however, worked just
fine. Of course, perhaps that was more accident than anything else. This
is definitely a flakey problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

f6, maybe, that sometimes gets me out.



At 10:17 AM 10/31/2011, you wrote:
IF tabbing does not get you out and just cycles through, it's usually
because the page has not finished loading. Try F5 to refresh.

I've also cursed at the whole IE interface every time I get "stuck" up
there
in that area. I've turned off everything I can think of and still there
are
elements that grab my cursor if I'm careless enough to tab beyond the
bottom
of a page.

Don't know any answers, as it's more to do with IE7 and IE8 layout than
JAWS.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 07:30
Subject: getting stuck in the tool bar


I have not figured out why I seem to get "stuck" in the tool bar. I'm
running 13 now but seemed to have the same problem with 12. Sometimes I
can
just hit tab a few times and get down into the page, other times hitting
tab
just cycles through the toolbar. Somtimes switching to the virtual
cursor
helps, other times nothing helps.



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Re: not good

2.g.i <2.g.i.84972@...>
 

well said Tom

At 12:25 PM 11/2/2011, you wrote:
Lol, eh? Doesn't sound at all funny to me. Times are tough these days even for those of us with good jobs, so I can empathize with people who are living from paycheck to paycheck or who are out of work and within a hair's breadth of living on the streets. That's no laughing matter for sighted folks and it sure isn't funny for blind guys. I'll grant you that this isn't a chat room but you've got no call to dismiss this guy's plight in such a flippant manner. Shame on you!

Tom

Tom

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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: not good


Here we go again with the jaws chat room...lol

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On Behalf Of hannah day
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 09:59
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: not good

Hi Brian and all

Aw no sorry to hear that i hope things improve chat soon hanah


Hannah Day
E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2009@googlemail.com
MSN hannahday1989@hotmail.co.uk
Skype: hannahday

On 01/11/2011 16:56, Brian wrote:
Hi All. This new job doesn't seem to be working out. They've scheduled a
phone call tomorrow. They sent me a copy of our original accommodations
letter which doesn't state that they'll do whatever they can to accomodate
me, even if it means paying for a JAWS script to make their platform
accessible. I told them over the phone that I wouldn't know if I could do
the work until they installed the software and gave it a try but who
cares.
If I didn't write that out in legal language it doesn't count. The new
JAWS
13 seems to have brought new issues with it in some cases so it's hard to
know who to blame, as if assigning blame would help at this point.

My stomach is in knots. I hope I'm not screwed but until that hopey
changey
stuff kicks in, reckon I'll be living in a cardboard box on the street.




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Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

Dave...
 

Curtis,

Don't thank me, thank Adrian. He's the one who pointed it out, and it's
great. Freedom Scientific responded to my suggestion to make a single-letter
navigation key to emulate Ctrl-f6 and they suggested I write my own script,
but did pass it along to the suggestions folks. So toss that idea into the
round file.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@calweb.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 21:32
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar


thanks for this! control-f6, wish I'd have known b4.


At 11:35 AM 11/1/2011, you wrote:
Ed,

No, Ctrl+F6 has worked consistently since I learned about it. It's a
life-saver. FS really should put together a "tips and trick" seminar or
posting to their site. Perhaps add it to their Surf's Up presentation.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 08:49
Subject: RE: getting stuck in the tool bar


Just tried f-6. It did nothing. Control plus f-6, however, worked just
fine. Of course, perhaps that was more accident than anything else. This
is definitely a flakey problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: getting stuck in the tool bar

f6, maybe, that sometimes gets me out.



At 10:17 AM 10/31/2011, you wrote:
IF tabbing does not get you out and just cycles through, it's usually
because the page has not finished loading. Try F5 to refresh.

I've also cursed at the whole IE interface every time I get "stuck" up
there
in that area. I've turned off everything I can think of and still there
are
elements that grab my cursor if I'm careless enough to tab beyond the
bottom
of a page.

Don't know any answers, as it's more to do with IE7 and IE8 layout than
JAWS.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <bvarner05@comcast.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 07:30
Subject: getting stuck in the tool bar


I have not figured out why I seem to get "stuck" in the tool bar. I'm
running 13 now but seemed to have the same problem with 12. Sometimes I
can
just hit tab a few times and get down into the page, other times hitting
tab
just cycles through the toolbar. Somtimes switching to the virtual
cursor
helps, other times nothing helps.



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