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Adrian Spratt
 

I should have given the source for Dean's newsletter:

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Re: JAWS 13 Doesn't read attachments

Adrian Spratt
 

I am using JAWS version 13.0.527, the update released prior to the one that
came out earlier this week, and Outlook 2003. I go to attachments with
insert-a and am experiencing no new difficulties locating all items there.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:16 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: JAWS 13 Doesn't read attachments

All:
I've had to switch back to JAWS 12, temporarily, I hope.
For those of you using Outlook 2003, you know there are two ways (at least)
of accessing email attachments:
1. From the Inbox listing, one can right-click, press shift plus F-10, or
press the Applications key to produce a list of choices. One has a submenu
called "View attachments."
In JAWS 12, I can see 13 attachments to this particular message I have.
Only one attachment shows up in JAWS 13. This is a huge problem.
2. When in the message, by pressing control plus shift plus o, one can
change the format to plain text. This puts all the attachments up in an
attachment box. In JAWS 13, when I arrow along in that box, all I hear is
semicolon. In JAWS 12, the attachment is identified, the file attachment
name, and the size are stated.
If this has been mentioned before, I apologize. I've only been distractedly
following the list of late. I'd like to know if this has been reported as a
nasty bug. We should be moving to Office 10 soon. So, perhaps this is only
a matter of historical significance.
Nevertheless, for the present, in this regard, JAWS 13 is definitely a step
backwards. This makes JAWS 13 a non-starter for me. Wonder if I can get my
wasted SMA back and wait for JAWS 14? I think it will likely snow in Hades
first. <SMILE>

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Re: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

Hamid Hamraz
 

Hi,

Well, it's like the previous versions; slow and crash-prone. The only difference is the user interface which has been distorted. I think the slowness issue is related to combination of JAWS with it. I always prefer to stay away from Adobe Acrobat by converting PDF files to TXT or word.

Cheers,

Hamid

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X


How well does X do with long documents? The performance of 7,8, and 9
has been truly awful, forcing the user to choose between either
continually paging down or dealing with a balky, slow, crash-prone
application (I haven't compared notes with sighted users on this issue).
I've been using that little reader that came with Thunder; it lacks
fancy features, but is rock steady.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Hamid Hamraz
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 4:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

Hi David,

I am using Adobe Acrobat X pro. I don't like the new interface with the
reduced menues. I couldn't locate the checkbox though! Any comment?
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X


If you're having problems with adobe X try the following;

1, open adobe X,

2, press ctrl+k=preferences,

3, now press the letter "g"=general,

4, now tab and
Uncheck,
Enable Protected Mode at startup

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Charles Coe
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:18 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

Try this site It has instructions on how to access pdf docs with
screen
readers.

www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/reader


Hope this will be of help.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Bergen, Eric
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

The wizard came up the first time I went into a .PDF document and I
went
through it.
I am not sure of some of the choices though.
I set what I thought was correct but it is still not reading anything.
Thanks.
Eric.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

Look for a menu or ribbon referring to accessibility, and run the
wizard.
I
don't have Adobe X but there should be something similar.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bergen, Eric" <Eric.Bergen@mtsallstream.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:03 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X


Hello.

They have just upgraded me at work to Adobe Reader X from Adobe
Reader
9.

Now when I load a document, I can't read anything.

When I do a down arrow it just says blank.

It is not an OCR thing since I could read the same document with
Adobe
Reader 9.

Any ideas if there are particular settings under preferences that I
need
to set in order for me to be able to read .PDF documents?

I am using Jaws 12.1169.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Eric.



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Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Judy Jones <jtj1@...>
 

All this is why I haven't budged from Jaws 10 on my home computer. I have had Jaws 11 and 12 at work, and they don't seem as stable, have little glitches, get hung up with IE8, etc. Now I understand the agency is going to upgrade to Jaws 13? I'm not optimistic, although I appreciate the intent.

Judy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester


cy, I agree with you with the past miserable performance I don't plan on renewing my jaws or getting the maintenance agreement. it is pretty sad to put out a new addition and expecting the public to expect a flawed product. Karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: becoming a jaws beta tester


Dave,
First three months? Man, are you optimistic. (LOLLOLLOL)
Did they ever get 12 reasonably clean?
I am still on 11 and wonder how 13 is for real.
I am trying to decide if I really want to renew my SMA or is it just going
to be waste of money - again?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

RJ,

Everyone is a beta tester for at least the first 3 months of a new release.

Okay, I'm cynical. Actually the new version does pre-release about a month
in advance and everyone is welcome to download and report bugs. However
given the short time I really don't think those bug reports ever make it to
the first release. I suspect that these bugs get fixed in the succeeding
monthly updates. Okay, cynical again, but not quite so much, eh?

Other than that if you want to be a Beta tester for real, you need to
contact FS directly and let them know you're interested. Then be prepared to

devote a lot of time to wringing out as many quirks as possible, with as
many applications as possible, in as many operating environments as possible

during the testing cycles, and report every single thing you find that
either works or does not work.

If I ever retire and have nothing to do, I'll volunteer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 19:25
Subject: becoming a jaws beta tester


How does one become a jaws beta tester? RJ
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Re: [Bulk] JAWS 13.0.638 Outlook 2003

Dave...
 

Shoot the message off to them. Slow response time seems to be a recurring theme with JAWS 13.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: [Bulk] JAWS 13.0.638 Outlook 2003
From: "CrisMunoz54" <crismunoz54@gmail.com>
Date: 12-14-2011 16:19

Is anyone else getting the following behavior?
When doing a spell check in Word 2003 or an Outlook e-mail message and
tabbing down the the list view of suggestions, Jaws loses speech for quite a
few seconds before any sort of speech is restored. I've noticed this with
the latest update and don't recall it in earlier versions of 13 or even 12
and 11. I just want to be sure it's not something on my system, but rather
something other's have come across before maybe shooting an e-mail off to
FS.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Deb and Cori
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: JAWS 13.0.638 - Was [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2007

I have had some weird things with the updates too.
I got a message that they could not install the update and the install
program suggested that I do a repair.
I have windows xp, jaws 13, use internet explorer and outlook express with
google as a homepage.
What could be the problem with the updates?


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JAWS 13.0.638 Outlook 2003

Cristóbal
 

Is anyone else getting the following behavior?
When doing a spell check in Word 2003 or an Outlook e-mail message and
tabbing down the the list view of suggestions, Jaws loses speech for quite a
few seconds before any sort of speech is restored. I've noticed this with
the latest update and don't recall it in earlier versions of 13 or even 12
and 11. I just want to be sure it's not something on my system, but rather
something other's have come across before maybe shooting an e-mail off to
FS.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Deb and Cori
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: JAWS 13.0.638 - Was [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2007

I have had some weird things with the updates too.
I got a message that they could not install the update and the install
program suggested that I do a repair.
I have windows xp, jaws 13, use internet explorer and outlook express with
google as a homepage.
What could be the problem with the updates?


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Re: [Bulk] JAWS 13.0.638 - Was [Bulk] Outlook 2007

Deb and the girls
 

I have had some weird things with the updates too.
I got a message that they could not install the update and the install program suggested that I do a repair.
I have windows xp, jaws 13, use internet explorer and outlook express with google as a homepage.
What could be the problem with the updates?


Re: [Bulk] JAWS 13 Doesn't read attachments

Dave...
 

Peter,

Ed's actually talking about the attachment list that shows up, not the
actual graphic announcing the presence of attachments.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 13:56
Subject: [Bulk] Re: JAWS 13 Doesn't read attachments


It will be a simple answer of labelling the correct graphic. As I don't use
Outlook I don't know what the graphic number is but if you have a few
messages without attachments that are read, and your one with attachments is
read then you can tell which is the right graphic as the one with
attachments will be the only one. To label the graphic move to the message
with the attachments, then go to the verbocity menu and turn on to show all
grpahics, then turn on the JAWS cursor and control arrow to the left until
you get to the graphic. Then press insert G and label the graphic as
attachment.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: JAWS 13 Doesn't read attachments

All:
I've had to switch back to JAWS 12, temporarily, I hope.
For those of you using Outlook 2003, you know there are two ways (at least)
of accessing email attachments:
1. From the Inbox listing, one can right-click, press shift plus F-10, or
press the Applications key to produce a list of choices. One has a submenu
called "View attachments."
In JAWS 12, I can see 13 attachments to this particular message I have.
Only one attachment shows up in JAWS 13. This is a huge problem.
2. When in the message, by pressing control plus shift plus o, one can
change the format to plain text. This puts all the attachments up in an
attachment box. In JAWS 13, when I arrow along in that box, all I hear is
semicolon. In JAWS 12, the attachment is identified, the file attachment
name, and the size are stated.
If this has been mentioned before, I apologize. I've only been distractedly
following the list of late. I'd like to know if this has been reported as a
nasty bug. We should be moving to Office 10 soon. So, perhaps this is only
a matter of historical significance.
Nevertheless, for the present, in this regard, JAWS 13 is definitely a step
backwards. This makes JAWS 13 a non-starter for me. Wonder if I can get my
wasted SMA back and wait for JAWS 14? I think it will likely snow in Hades
first. <SMILE>

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Re: JAWS 13 Doesn't read attachments

Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

It will be a simple answer of labelling the correct graphic. As I don't use Outlook I don't know what the graphic number is but if you have a few messages without attachments that are read, and your one with attachments is read then you can tell which is the right graphic as the one with attachments will be the only one. To label the graphic move to the message with the attachments, then go to the verbocity menu and turn on to show all grpahics, then turn on the JAWS cursor and control arrow to the left until you get to the graphic. Then press insert G and label the graphic as attachment.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: JAWS 13 Doesn't read attachments

All:
I've had to switch back to JAWS 12, temporarily, I hope.
For those of you using Outlook 2003, you know there are two ways (at least) of accessing email attachments:
1. From the Inbox listing, one can right-click, press shift plus F-10, or press the Applications key to produce a list of choices. One has a submenu called "View attachments."
In JAWS 12, I can see 13 attachments to this particular message I have. Only one attachment shows up in JAWS 13. This is a huge problem.
2. When in the message, by pressing control plus shift plus o, one can change the format to plain text. This puts all the attachments up in an attachment box. In JAWS 13, when I arrow along in that box, all I hear is semicolon. In JAWS 12, the attachment is identified, the file attachment name, and the size are stated.
If this has been mentioned before, I apologize. I've only been distractedly following the list of late. I'd like to know if this has been reported as a nasty bug. We should be moving to Office 10 soon. So, perhaps this is only a matter of historical significance.
Nevertheless, for the present, in this regard, JAWS 13 is definitely a step backwards. This makes JAWS 13 a non-starter for me. Wonder if I can get my wasted SMA back and wait for JAWS 14? I think it will likely snow in Hades first. <SMILE>

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Re: Outlook 2007

Dave...
 

Michael,

Only way to fix it is to send an E-Mail to support@freedomscientific.com and
report what you're observing.

I just got off the phone with Corey from FS about the IE7 problem I
described yesterday. Confirmed, and he was suitably in awe.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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From: "michael grove" <attackfisherman1@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:53
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007


I am also getting the same kind of messages any sugestions how to fix this.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:53 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007

I am also experiencing this. When I checked the screen colors with JAWS, it
said black on black. It's very strange!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2007

List,



After downloading and installing the latest JAWS 13 update, in Outlook 2007
every message is announced as "not selected." It reads this way when
arrowing up and down in every folder. Anyone else experiencing this
behavior?



Mark



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JAWS 13 Doesn't read attachments

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

All:
I've had to switch back to JAWS 12, temporarily, I hope.
For those of you using Outlook 2003, you know there are two ways (at least) of accessing email attachments:
1. From the Inbox listing, one can right-click, press shift plus F-10, or press the Applications key to produce a list of choices. One has a submenu called "View attachments."
In JAWS 12, I can see 13 attachments to this particular message I have. Only one attachment shows up in JAWS 13. This is a huge problem.
2. When in the message, by pressing control plus shift plus o, one can change the format to plain text. This puts all the attachments up in an attachment box. In JAWS 13, when I arrow along in that box, all I hear is semicolon. In JAWS 12, the attachment is identified, the file attachment name, and the size are stated.
If this has been mentioned before, I apologize. I've only been distractedly following the list of late. I'd like to know if this has been reported as a nasty bug. We should be moving to Office 10 soon. So, perhaps this is only a matter of historical significance.
Nevertheless, for the present, in this regard, JAWS 13 is definitely a step backwards. This makes JAWS 13 a non-starter for me. Wonder if I can get my wasted SMA back and wait for JAWS 14? I think it will likely snow in Hades first. <SMILE>

#############################################################################################################
ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR
RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
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Re: Outlook 2007

michael grove <attackfisherman1@...>
 

I am also getting the same kind of messages any sugestions how to fix this.

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On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:53 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007

I am also experiencing this. When I checked the screen colors with JAWS, it
said black on black. It's very strange!

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On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2007

List,



After downloading and installing the latest JAWS 13 update, in Outlook 2007
every message is announced as "not selected." It reads this way when
arrowing up and down in every folder. Anyone else experiencing this
behavior?



Mark



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Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key

Dave Mitchell
 

Thanks Dave, that was so easy I almost thought you were kidding. <G> Mitch

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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Mitch,

If you'd rather have it say JAWS 13 then do the following:

Arrow to the desktop icon
Press f2
Edit the name
Press Enter

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:17
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Thanks. This worked and my desk top now contains 2 listings of JAWS. One
says JAWS 12 and the new one just says 'JAWS'.
From this JAWS desk top icon, I did alt plus enter for creating my new hot
key and arrowed down to the apply button.
I unloaded JAWS and reloaded with the new hot key so, at least for now, I'm
all set. Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@trinitycounseling.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key


hi. go to your start menue/programs/jaws13 right arrow into the jaws
menue. arrow down to jaws and hit the applications key. up arrow to send
to and right arrow into that menue. then up arrow to desktop create
shortcut. hope this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Hi, I had a Hot Key assigned to JAWS 13 and I managed to do this via the
icon on the desk top. This is a major whoop for me.
Now I notice that somehow the desktop icon for JAWS 13 has gone missing.
Of course, I don't know how to remedy this.
Do I need to install from the CD? Or is there a simple way to add JAWS
13 to the desk top?
This is an XP Home O S.
Thanks, Mitch

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Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key

dennis <dennis.cornelison@...>
 

you can rename it jaws 13 if you want also. thats up to you though.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Thanks. This worked and my desk top now contains 2 listings of JAWS. One says JAWS 12 and the new one just says 'JAWS'.
From this JAWS desk top icon, I did alt plus enter for creating my new hot key and arrowed down to the apply button.
I unloaded JAWS and reloaded with the new hot key so, at least for now, I'm all set. Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@trinitycounseling.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key


hi. go to your start menue/programs/jaws13 right arrow into the jaws menue. arrow down to jaws and hit the applications key. up arrow to send to and right arrow into that menue. then up arrow to desktop create shortcut. hope this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Hi, I had a Hot Key assigned to JAWS 13 and I managed to do this via the icon on the desk top. This is a major whoop for me.
Now I notice that somehow the desktop icon for JAWS 13 has gone missing.
Of course, I don't know how to remedy this.
Do I need to install from the CD? Or is there a simple way to add JAWS 13 to the desk top?
This is an XP Home O S.
Thanks, Mitch

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Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key

Dave...
 

Mitch,

If you'd rather have it say JAWS 13 then do the following:

Arrow to the desktop icon
Press f2
Edit the name
Press Enter

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:17
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Thanks. This worked and my desk top now contains 2 listings of JAWS. One
says JAWS 12 and the new one just says 'JAWS'.
From this JAWS desk top icon, I did alt plus enter for creating my new hot
key and arrowed down to the apply button.
I unloaded JAWS and reloaded with the new hot key so, at least for now, I'm
all set. Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@trinitycounseling.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key


hi. go to your start menue/programs/jaws13 right arrow into the jaws
menue. arrow down to jaws and hit the applications key. up arrow to send
to and right arrow into that menue. then up arrow to desktop create
shortcut. hope this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Hi, I had a Hot Key assigned to JAWS 13 and I managed to do this via the
icon on the desk top. This is a major whoop for me.
Now I notice that somehow the desktop icon for JAWS 13 has gone missing.
Of course, I don't know how to remedy this.
Do I need to install from the CD? Or is there a simple way to add JAWS
13 to the desk top?
This is an XP Home O S.
Thanks, Mitch

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Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key

Dave Mitchell
 

Thanks. This worked and my desk top now contains 2 listings of JAWS. One says JAWS 12 and the new one just says 'JAWS'.
From this JAWS desk top icon, I did alt plus enter for creating my new hot
key and arrowed down to the apply button.
I unloaded JAWS and reloaded with the new hot key so, at least for now, I'm all set. Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@trinitycounseling.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key


hi. go to your start menue/programs/jaws13 right arrow into the jaws menue. arrow down to jaws and hit the applications key. up arrow to send to and right arrow into that menue. then up arrow to desktop create shortcut. hope this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Hi, I had a Hot Key assigned to JAWS 13 and I managed to do this via the icon on the desk top. This is a major whoop for me.
Now I notice that somehow the desktop icon for JAWS 13 has gone missing.
Of course, I don't know how to remedy this.
Do I need to install from the CD? Or is there a simple way to add JAWS 13 to the desk top?
This is an XP Home O S.
Thanks, Mitch

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Re: [Bulk] JAWS 13.0.638 - Was [Bulk] Outlook 2007

Cristóbal
 

Dave,

Yes, I used the 32 bit version. This happened to me once before with one of
the 12 or maybe 13 releases, I can't remember right now. I even downloaded
the .exe file a second time to be sure it wasn't my first download. In both
instances, I got stuck on the "please wait while Jaws updates your system"
or something page and get the endless cherps. It will get stuck at the 96%
level.

Both times this has happened, I've been able to restart my computer with no
issues and when I check the about option in the Jaws menu, it will show the
updated version, but I'll notice weird behavior with certain commands and
whatnot. This time though, if I unloaded Jaws using the insert+f4 command
and try to reload it, Jaws would not come up. Thankfully I still have JFW 11
on my system so I just went ahead and used that to the uninstall process for
13 and did the reinstall with the executable file.

The update always goes through fine after I do the initial uninstall and
reinstallation.

Just one of those things I suppose.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: JAWS 13.0.638 - Was [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2007

Chris,

Interesting you point out the install problem. I downloaded the update (as I

do each time) and had to install twice before it came up. Then just to be
safe I did a repair. I noticed that during the first two installs the
default "valium voice" was not there, but in the repair it finally came on
board.

Not the usual seamless install of an upgrade, and perhaps the executable
posted to the web is somewhat corrupted.

I used the 32-bit version. Did you?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 08:59
Subject: [Bulk] RE: JAWS 13.0.638 - Was [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2007


I had an issue with the install where it got hung up at 96% completed. I
ended up having to uninstall version 13 and do a reinstall. This happened to
me once before. Really odd. Also, I'm noticing that Jaws is a tad sluggish
again in Firefox (Google Reader). Similar to how it was in the various JFW
12 releases. I haven't come across the not selected issue with e-mails, but
I'm only running Outlook 2003.

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On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS 13.0.638 - Was [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2007

I removed JAWS 13.0.638 a(using restore) and am back to using JAWS 13.0.527.

My bad experience was with a web site where I had the "Remember me on this
computer" feature enabled at the logon. Normally I hear my user name in the
edit field when opening such web pages.

With this last update of JAWS (and with no other versions before) I heard a
reading of the lines of one of the underlying script files read on and on
and on. The username was actually there, but JAWS was off reading something
completely wrong. The offending text string was no where on the screen -- it

was just being fed into the synthesizer.

Anyone else seen this behavior? If so please report to FS.

I'm using Windows 7 32-bit and IE 7

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 07:52
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2007


I am also experiencing this. When I checked the screen colors with JAWS, it
said black on black. It's very strange!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2007

List,



After downloading and installing the latest JAWS 13 update, in Outlook 2007
every message is announced as "not selected." It reads this way when
arrowing up and down in every folder. Anyone else experiencing this
behavior?



Mark



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Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key

Adrian Spratt
 

I wish this had been posted before I wrote my elaborate instructions. Much
simpler.

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On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key

hi. go to your start menue/programs/jaws13 right arrow into the jaws menue.
arrow down to jaws and hit the applications key. up arrow to send to and
right arrow into that menue. then up arrow to desktop create shortcut. hope
this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Hi, I had a Hot Key assigned to JAWS 13 and I managed to do this via
the icon on the desk top. This is a major whoop for me.
Now I notice that somehow the desktop icon for JAWS 13 has gone missing.
Of course, I don't know how to remedy this.
Do I need to install from the CD? Or is there a simple way to add
JAWS 13 to the desk top?
This is an XP Home O S.
Thanks, Mitch

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Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key

Adrian Spratt
 

Mitch, I think this will work:

1. Go to the start menu, then programs, then press j until JAWS 13 is
spoken.

2. Press enter on JAWS 13, then arrow up or down until you hear simply,
"JAWS." do not press enter.

3. Press the applications key, which is to the left of the right control
key.

4. Arrow up (on my system just once) until you hear "Properties." Press
enter.

5. Here you'll be in the shortcut dialog that you may have encountered when
the JAWS icon was still on the desktop.

6. Tab to the blank edit field where you type in the letter you want to use
for the shortcut. Do not press control or alt, which are assigned by
default.

7. Press enter.

Note. I've learned to skip the OK button when creating a shortcut. For some
reason, I, and others, have found that more tabbing can undo the shortcut
you chose. In its instructions, FS also says to press enter right away.

That should do it. I can't test to confirm that the icon will appear along
with the shortcut, since I haven't lost mine, but I don't think the shortcut
could work without it. Would you let us know either way?

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On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:53 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: JAWS 13 Hot Key

Hi, I had a Hot Key assigned to JAWS 13 and I managed to do this via the
icon on the desk top. This is a major whoop for me.
Now I notice that somehow the desktop icon for JAWS 13 has gone missing.
Of course, I don't know how to remedy this.
Do I need to install from the CD? Or is there a simple way to add JAWS 13
to the desk top?
This is an XP Home O S.
Thanks, Mitch


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Re: JAWS 13 Hot Key

dennis <dennis.cornelison@...>
 

hi. go to your start menue/programs/jaws13 right arrow into the jaws menue. arrow down to jaws and hit the applications key. up arrow to send to and right arrow into that menue. then up arrow to desktop create shortcut. hope this helps.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: JAWS 13 Hot Key


Hi, I had a Hot Key assigned to JAWS 13 and I managed to do this via the icon on the desk top. This is a major whoop for me.
Now I notice that somehow the desktop icon for JAWS 13 has gone missing.
Of course, I don't know how to remedy this.
Do I need to install from the CD? Or is there a simple way to add JAWS 13 to the desk top?
This is an XP Home O S.
Thanks, Mitch

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