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moderated Re: New computer specs

Gerald Levy
 

Everybody and his uncle claims that SSD's are superior to HD's. But I have read that although they are faster and more mechanically reliable than HD's, they are more prone to data errors as their memory cells wear out, and so they may not last as long.  Also, they emit almost no noise, so if you purchase a Windows 10 laptop that lacks a DVD drive, there is really no reliable means to tell for sure that it has powered off completely after a shutdown has been initiated because there is no shutdown sound.  At least with an HD, you can usually feel it spinning when the power is on.


Gerald

On 8/25/2019 2:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to
be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:
Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew












moderated Re: RestoringtJaws access

Dave Durber
 

Hello:

Even though JAWS is running in Demo Mode , you have access to all its functions and features during the 40 minute demo.

HTH

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Mcdevitt" <jhmcdev@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 4:39 AM
Subject: RestoringtJaws access




Sent from my iPhone hello Group,
Recently I had some issues with my PC which required a complete reinstallation of windows and the maintenance of other issues.
After bringing it home today I attempted to open Jaws which ended up being limited to a 40 minute trial mode. As I do not have my authorization number written down, I probably will not have access to Jaws until I make contact with freedom scientific this Monday.
In the meantime is there a way that I can access Jaws and itp’s Full capacity.
I would appreciate any and all assistance.
Best, Justin


moderated Re: New computer specs

 

That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to
be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew









moderated Re: New computer specs

David Ingram
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...>
Sent: Aug 24, 2019 11:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New computer specs

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew




Don't forget about a usb keyboard just in case your laptop doesn't have a full keyboard layout semular to a desktop system would but also check to see if the ram could be upgraded to 64gb ram of course. Remember you still have to allow jaws to have a significant amount of ram to run in the background while other processes are going on.

moderated Re: New computer specs

Tyler Wood
 

Hello,

If I may make one further suggestion.

 

If you’d like a Dell Machine and for it to last 6 years, I highly recommend the Latitude business models. They have a minimum of preinstalled software, the warranty options are much more customizable and you can extend them, and the specifications are almost 100% flexible without the graphics card which, according to what you say you are doing with the machine, is definitely not needed. An i7 processor is more than sufficient, however a few more questions.

If all you are doing is office and web browsing, you would get by with an i5 processor, thus saving you even more money. Of course, keeping the system for 6 years, your needs may change during that time and this is an investment, so there is nothing wrong with that i7.

How much storage do you generally use on a computer? As long as it is a solid state drive, you’ll be fine, regardless of the size. Again, with changing conditions in the computer world, 6 years from now, a smaller amount of storage could be a detriment.

I’m not going to say I’m an expert on this, but I’ve certainly had my fair share of experiences. The latitude series is also less likely to have Dell’s famous audio issues wherein when a key is pressed, the first word of speech is nearly cut off because of audio enhancements.

Are you wanting to go with Dell, or are you open to other companies, such as Lenovo? The Lenovo think book series is quite nice, reasonably priced, and well built, with good warranty options. There are also the thinkpad series which have incredible keyboards (this is my first thinkpad and I really do understand why these keyboards are raved about). Seeing as how you perform extensive office tasks, a good keyboard is something to keep in mind, too, and I believe the think book series is very close to the thinkpad series in that regard, too.


Just some more things for you to chew and mull over as a new computer is no small investment, especially for someone using assistive technology, and Lenovo computers don’t seem to come with as many audio enhancements unlike Dell.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Diederick
Sent: August 25, 2019 12:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

 

Hello all:
Tyler, thank you for the insight. I mainly use Microsoft office suite, and browse the web with this unit. I’m looking on dell.com. I’m looking at a I seven 512 solid-state drive with 16 gig of RAM. And a plain graphics card. That retails for $1200. I’m not looking to spend more than that, and it states it’s a gaming computer. If the unit specs will last me around six years plus I would be very happy with that.


On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

The only reason to have the faster processors is if you are editing large audio or video files and multitasking with some processor heavy software, which most people do not do.

And, if I remember correctly; which may be a big if, those graphic cards he mentioned have been problematic with Jaws.

Unless he has some software that is requiring it, which would be surprising.

I will never go back to a standard HD drive after using my SSD drive now for a year.

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 



On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:

Hi,
This is completely, 100% true.
Although using a solid state drive in 2019 is almost a must - at least for
those that have experienced one. But so far as other sspecs are concerned
there are too many people out there that equate an i7 or i9 to being better
and that simply isn't true for just about 99% of use case scenarios.
Now that I look back at the specs, what are you needing a dedicated Nvidia
Graphics card for in particular? Intel hd graphics does just fine so far as
Jaws is concerned.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 24, 2019 11:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some
web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs



A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much.  I think he was  

dipping into some sort of sauce.  I received what I was told was a  

refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive.  It turned out to

be a  windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted

up.

Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G

Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: New computer specs

 

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

 

Feliciano

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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick

<andrew.diederick@...>

wrote:

 

Hello all.

Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:

I9 processor

16 GB ram

256 GB SSD

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

 

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of

these

specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should

make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?

Appreciate any advise.

 

Thank you-

Andrew

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 








moderated Re: New computer specs

Andrew Diederick
 

Hello all:
Tyler, thank you for the insight. I mainly use Microsoft office suite, and browse the web with this unit. I’m looking on dell.com. I’m looking at a I seven 512 solid-state drive with 16 gig of RAM. And a plain graphics card. That retails for $1200. I’m not looking to spend more than that, and it states it’s a gaming computer. If the unit specs will last me around six years plus I would be very happy with that.


On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

The only reason to have the faster processors is if you are editing large audio or video files and multitasking with some processor heavy software, which most people do not do.
And, if I remember correctly; which may be a big if, those graphic cards he mentioned have been problematic with Jaws.
Unless he has some software that is requiring it, which would be surprising.
I will never go back to a standard HD drive after using my SSD drive now for a year.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 


On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:

Hi,
This is completely, 100% true.
Although using a solid state drive in 2019 is almost a must - at least for
those that have experienced one. But so far as other sspecs are concerned
there are too many people out there that equate an i7 or i9 to being better
and that simply isn't true for just about 99% of use case scenarios.
Now that I look back at the specs, what are you needing a dedicated Nvidia
Graphics card for in particular? Intel hd graphics does just fine so far as
Jaws is concerned.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 24, 2019 11:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some
web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much.  I think he was  
dipping into some sort of sauce.  I received what I was told was a  
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive.  It turned out to
be a  windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted
up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew




















moderated Re: New computer specs

Richard Turner
 

The only reason to have the faster processors is if you are editing large audio or video files and multitasking with some processor heavy software, which most people do not do.
And, if I remember correctly; which may be a big if, those graphic cards he mentioned have been problematic with Jaws.
Unless he has some software that is requiring it, which would be surprising.
I will never go back to a standard HD drive after using my SSD drive now for a year.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 


On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:

Hi,
This is completely, 100% true.
Although using a solid state drive in 2019 is almost a must - at least for
those that have experienced one. But so far as other sspecs are concerned
there are too many people out there that equate an i7 or i9 to being better
and that simply isn't true for just about 99% of use case scenarios.
Now that I look back at the specs, what are you needing a dedicated Nvidia
Graphics card for in particular? Intel hd graphics does just fine so far as
Jaws is concerned.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 24, 2019 11:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some
web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much.  I think he was  
dipping into some sort of sauce.  I received what I was told was a  
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive.  It turned out to
be a  windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted
up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew




















moderated Re: New computer specs

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
This is completely, 100% true.
Although using a solid state drive in 2019 is almost a must - at least for
those that have experienced one. But so far as other sspecs are concerned
there are too many people out there that equate an i7 or i9 to being better
and that simply isn't true for just about 99% of use case scenarios.
Now that I look back at the specs, what are you needing a dedicated Nvidia
Graphics card for in particular? Intel hd graphics does just fine so far as
Jaws is concerned.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 24, 2019 11:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some
web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to
be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted
up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew









moderated Re: New computer specs

Glenn / Lenny
 

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to be a
windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make
certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew








moderated Re: New computer specs

Tyler Wood
 

16 GB of ram is the new 8 gb these days. Processors don't mean quite as much
for screen reader users especially when buying a flagship 2019 machine with
an i3, i5, or i7 processor, let alone the i9. If the machine does not have
user replaceable ram, get as much as you can - same with the solid state
drive if you plan on storing things, (just remember to back that up!) Just
as an example, Chrome eats up a ton of memory for no reason, and things will
likely only get worse as time goes on.
Notebookcheck.net is a fantastic resource if you want to look at notebook
reviews as they go into great detail on the hardware, the feel, the heat
dissipation, and battery life, and they tend to be very realistic on what is
and is not a good quality machine. They tend to take a while to get reviews
out simply because they do many stress tests on the machines to make sure
initial tests aren't wrong.

Hope that helps!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack
of dogs
Sent: August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to be a
windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones
who do. -Steve Jobs

On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make
certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew




moderated Re: New computer specs

David & his pack of dogs
 

A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to be a
windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones
who do. -Steve Jobs

On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make
certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew




moderated Re: New computer specs

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
If I may make one huge suggestion.
If it is at all possible to bring that down to a core i7 or i5, you can save
yourself quite a chunk of money and upgrade the ssd with hardly any loss in
overall performance. Don't believe the marketing hype from Intel and other
manufacturers - the i9 is far too expensive to make it worth it.
The i9 processor is often times slower at single core performance (which is
what is done 99% of the time) than a comparably equipped i7 or i5 since it
produces tons more heat at those higher clock speed and most machines can't
handle that thermal envelope.
The i7 will last you 6 years - that in and of itself is a 6 core, 12 thread
monster of a processor that puts most older desktops to shame, let alone
laptops. Remember that most things, including jaws, use, for the most part,
one core (or thread, in this case). The i9 may have 8 cores and 16 threads,
but according to several sources even when it is maxed out, the i7 is
overall quicker simply because of either processor temperature reaching
maximum (100 C) or thermal designed power limit, 45 wats.
I just purchased a Lenovo thinkpad x1 extreme. It is beautifully,
blisteringly, wonderfully fast and is equipped with the i7-8750h. I could
have easily gotten the i5 and been happy. If you're looking for long term,
though, the i7 is a very nice compromise and will last you for years. The i9
is about 5-10% faster overall and simply is not worth the price. Jaws will
scream no matter which you choose and be ridiculously fast.

Sorry for the long message. I just wanted to make you aware. This may not
even effect you personally if you don't do much with the machine - but it's
certainly worth taking note of, especially with a high cost investment. I'd
like to see you get your moneys worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Diederick
Sent: August 24, 2019 11:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New computer specs

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make
certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew

moderated Re: New computer specs

Moty Azrad
 

Andrew,

It is a very strong laptop.
By the way, what is the price of this one?
I do know that most users are using only I7 processor.
You write here about I9 processor.
I didn't see it yet.

Moti



Moti Azrad
Musician and Piano-Tuner

motiaz@...

azrad_moty@...

Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Diederick
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 07:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New computer specs

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make
certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew

moderated Re: New computer specs

Feliciano G
 

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs

On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...> wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew




moderated New computer specs

Andrew Diederick
 

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew

moderated RestoringtJaws access

Justin Mcdevitt
 

Sent from my iPhone hello Group,
Recently I had some issues with my PC which required a complete reinstallation of windows and the maintenance of other issues.
After bringing it home today I attempted to open Jaws which ended up being limited to a 40 minute trial mode. As I do not have my authorization number written down, I probably will not have access to Jaws until I make contact with freedom scientific this Monday.
In the meantime is there a way that I can access Jaws and itp’s Full capacity.
I would appreciate any and all assistance.
Best, Justin

moderated Reading notes in PowerPoint

Ann Byrne
 

The PowerPoint presentation I am looking at says "has notes". When I press shift-ctrl-n to read the notes, JAWS just says "press f6 or shift-f6". No notes read. How do I get JAWS to read the stinkin' notes?

thanks,

Ann

moderated Re: how does one join the new JAWS list

David & his pack of dogs
 

Here is an email being circulated widely. Hello Lists,

Michael Capelle recently started the jfw-users@groups.io list in response to
the closure of the jaws-users-list@groups.io list. I am the moderator of
this new list and am seeking new members in order to make it the best
resource possible for JAWS information.
I will do my best to keep topics on point while encouraging communication.
But we need as many JAWS savvy users as possible in order to have the best
knowledgebase. Hope to see you on the list.

Alan Lemly

moderated Re: having trouble with a web page

Dean Martineau
 

This is a non-standard control, but it doesn't look unusable. With Chrome, I tab to the edit box, and type in the first two letters of Rhode island. Then I tab and there it is in the box. You might have to arrow up to fill it in, I'm not sure, but henceforth, when I tabbed through the form, Rhode Island came up when I hit the State field. So try that and see if you can submit the form. The zip code is the same kind of field. I don't know if the form allows you to select them from a map, or what the deal is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 6:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: having trouble with a web page

so when i am going through this form, after the zipcode, there is an
edit box, after that, it says black down pointing small triangle.
What the hell is that supposed to mean. so i depress the enter key.
Then as i am arrowing through the states, they just look like words.
So i get to rhode island and depress the enter key. Then it says
starting microsoft edge.
Why would it launch edge, i'm not even running edge, i'm running
firefox. What am i missing here guys. I have to get this form filled
out this weekend.

Cheers,

Jed

On 8/24/19, Jed Barton <jed@...> wrote:
so i have no idea how to interact with this. I can't believe someone
would design a web page like this. When i hit the enter button on the
edit box, it makes like a beep sound like it's going into forms mode.
Then when i hit alt and down arrow, it sounds like it's coming out off
forms mode.
I arrow down to Rhode Island, depress the enter key, and it keeps
telling me something about edge, like it's launching the edge web
browser. Now i'm really confused. Any help guys?

On 8/24/19, Jed Barton <jed@...> wrote:
ok, what is waterfox? I'm using firefox

On 8/24/19, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:
after it says state there is a blank line. press enter to activate forms
mode. press alt plus down arrow like you would open a dialog box. then
just
down and up arrow till you find your state and press enter. i'm using
latest
jaws and waterfox. hope this helps.

On 8/24/2019 4:29 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey guys
So i am trying to apply for a position, but am running into an issue
with their web page.
So i can fill out most of the form, until i get to the state. It
comes up as an edit box, but it also looks like it's a dropdown to
select a state. I don't understand why people don't use combo boxes
the way they are supposed to.
Can someone look at it, to figure out how i am supposed to enter the
state, cause i can't submit the form.

https://www.embracehomeloans.com/recruiting/lets-talk



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moderated Re: having trouble with a web page

Jed Barton
 

Well, that was the ticket. That's certainly interesting. It does
make it confusing for sure. Thanks a ton guys, sorry to drive you
crazy.

On 8/24/19, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Jed,

No snark whatsoever is intended with what follows.

Try a different web browser (pick any Chromium based one), screen reader, or
both.

What I get when I hit the state box is a bit odd, but if you begin typing
out the whole state name the correct one appears as soon as you've given
enough characters to make it distinct.  For example, typing V shows
Virginia, Vermont, and Virgin Islands.  Add the letter I and Vermont
disappears, add the "rgini" and you only have Virginia as the choice.  When
I hit Enter it fills in Virginia and says something like "Virginia link" or
similar.   This thing is not a conventional combo box.  It is a new thing
that I have never encountered before, and I actually like it far better than
a conventional combo box.  I cannot figure out why the list of options is
not being read as one arrows down through them, but either this new object
is not exposing the text to the screen reader or screen readers have not yet
been updated to deal with this new web object.  I was using NVDA and Brave
(which is Chromium-based) for my quick test.

If you need to fill in Rhode Island then all you need to do is type the
letter R and hit Enter.  The screen reader should tell you that Rhode Island
now appears in the state box.

Over time I have certainly learned that different browsers and different
screen readers may "play better" with specific web pages.  When push comes
to shove I change one variable at a time, typically changing the browser
first, and the screen reader second.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

~ Eric Hoffer