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Re: Donating JAWS

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Well, I've still got to see some super cool features with Jaws... The only reason why I am using Jaws instead of System access is because Jaws is required for most games and clients.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: wogg le4
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:33 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Donating JAWS

Jaws is only within the reach for a small minority of blind people who
can either fund it themselves or can get some sort of Government
agency to fund it for them.

Is that right?

Do you really think there is sufficient work in making new versions of
jaws to justify the prices charged?

What about people in 3rd world countries?

They may get their hands on an old computer ... but a thousand $ copy
of jaws? Keep on dreaming!!!

Anyone here use talks for a mobile phone? It does nearly everything
jaws does in simbion environment and costs something like $70 - free
with some particular phones.

Do you really think Apple would have developed screen readers for
their devices if it cost that much?

What about NVDA?

Face facts friends, you've been and continue to be gouged!!!

Gouged by freedom scientific, who's pricing structure denies a
necessary freedom to litterally thousands, if not milions of blind
people around the world ... I doubt there are many MACs floating
around the 3rd world, it's all windows machines.

NVDA will change that.


On 2/4/12, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@gmail.com> wrote:
I could be wrong but if you give away or sell your old licence, don't
you also lose your current licence? Said I could be wrong but as I had
it all along is if you let's say had jaws 10 and now baught jaws 13,
you just paid to extend that same licence to jaws 13 but with your one
licence you can now use jaws 13 and still use jaws 10 and maybe also
jaws 11 and 12 in between. Think you keep your original licence all
along they just enable the versions of jaws as you pay and give you a
activation code.

On 2/4/12, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur@gmail.com> wrote:
How much does it cost to do this? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar and His Beamer" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Donating JAWS


DeadCatBounce,

No, Sending JAWS to third world countries does no good. They need your
license to run it. Are you willing to donate your license as well? If so
you'll need to specify the new owner and contact Freedom Scientific to
have
them formally transfer the license.

Dave Carlson
Sent from somewhere in the Western United States, using a Dell Latitude
E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "deadcatbounce" <JAWS@ca.rr.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 08:01
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


So a "crack" is a bootlegged copy of the original? I paid full price for
mine years ago, but I do hae a question for people: Do you just toss the
old versions of JAWS once you get the new one or do you keep them around?
I've heard of people who send their old copies to Africa or other
third-world countries or something like that. Is that a viable, or
legal,
option for old CD's that are just sitting around and which you haven't
tossed yet?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7



Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of
$1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked
or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The
Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out
of reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants
short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try
to do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

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jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
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Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Donating JAWS

wogg le4 <woggle4@...>
 

Jaws is only within the reach for a small minority of blind people who
can either fund it themselves or can get some sort of Government
agency to fund it for them.

Is that right?

Do you really think there is sufficient work in making new versions of
jaws to justify the prices charged?

What about people in 3rd world countries?

They may get their hands on an old computer ... but a thousand $ copy
of jaws? Keep on dreaming!!!

Anyone here use talks for a mobile phone? It does nearly everything
jaws does in simbion environment and costs something like $70 - free
with some particular phones.

Do you really think Apple would have developed screen readers for
their devices if it cost that much?

What about NVDA?

Face facts friends, you've been and continue to be gouged!!!

Gouged by freedom scientific, who's pricing structure denies a
necessary freedom to litterally thousands, if not milions of blind
people around the world ... I doubt there are many MACs floating
around the 3rd world, it's all windows machines.

NVDA will change that.

On 2/4/12, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@gmail.com> wrote:
I could be wrong but if you give away or sell your old licence, don't
you also lose your current licence? Said I could be wrong but as I had
it all along is if you let's say had jaws 10 and now baught jaws 13,
you just paid to extend that same licence to jaws 13 but with your one
licence you can now use jaws 13 and still use jaws 10 and maybe also
jaws 11 and 12 in between. Think you keep your original licence all
along they just enable the versions of jaws as you pay and give you a
activation code.

On 2/4/12, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur@gmail.com> wrote:
How much does it cost to do this? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar and His Beamer" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Donating JAWS


DeadCatBounce,

No, Sending JAWS to third world countries does no good. They need your
license to run it. Are you willing to donate your license as well? If so
you'll need to specify the new owner and contact Freedom Scientific to
have
them formally transfer the license.

Dave Carlson
Sent from somewhere in the Western United States, using a Dell Latitude
E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "deadcatbounce" <JAWS@ca.rr.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 08:01
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


So a "crack" is a bootlegged copy of the original? I paid full price for
mine years ago, but I do hae a question for people: Do you just toss the
old versions of JAWS once you get the new one or do you keep them around?
I've heard of people who send their old copies to Africa or other
third-world countries or something like that. Is that a viable, or
legal,
option for old CD's that are just sitting around and which you haven't
tossed yet?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7



Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of
$1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked
or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The
Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out
of reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants
short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try
to do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
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jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Simple Economics 101 Was: Cracked

cecropia64
 

good point. i still don't like some of this stuff, but i certainly do get it.

On 2/4/2012 12:12 PM, Farfar and His Beamer wrote:
Richard,

I like your style.

To amplify what I believe cecropia64 was saying: The price charged for a
product is based on what it cost to develop, what it costs to duplicate,
what it costs to support, what the employees earn in salary, what it costs
to rent the building, what the next version will need for development, etc.;
all divided by the number of copies to be sold.

A rather large amount of investment for a fairly small (in Windows or Apple
terms) user community. We are after all a niche community of users so a
large cost borne by a small group = high cost per copy. Simple economics.

Dave Carlson
Sent from somewhere in the Western United States, using a Dell Latitude
E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holloway"<rholloway@gopbc.org>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 08:40
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


I feel a perfect fool-- We paid full price, out of pocket. We had no
alternative source of funding, and we wanted JAWS available for our young
daughter to grow up with and learn about.

Silly me, it never crossed my mind to just steal a copy. I have the same
problem when shopping for food or clothes, I keep actually paying for them
as opposed to choosing the route of theft, which would clearly be much more
practical for my family financially.

Maybe if you feel the need to steal software, posting that you support (and
do) such things is not the most prudent idea? What seems really foolish to
me about all of this is that you can use a demo copy of the program easily
and legally for as long as you like (to my understanding) with free upgrades
and all, but apparently the frequent restarting of the computer is too
inconvenient for you, so you therefore need to steal the product and brag
about it?

Oh, and if someone gets JAWS bought with appropriate funding, the product is
still being paid for. The issue is that the company and PEOPLE who develop
and support the product also have to get paid for their efforts. At a
certain point, be it Freedom Scientific or Microsoft, if enough people are
stealing their products they'll just stop developing and supporting them.

I'm funny about things myself, just like these companies-- if I don't get
paid for my work I run out of money and I go out of business.

On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Juan Pablo wrote:

Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message----- From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04,
2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack
For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

email me off list!!!

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

john.falter
 

If we didn't, someone else did.
The relative small size of the assistive market forces prices that seem high. Much of the cost of software development comes from software support. So far as I know Freedom Scientific doesn't charge for support so the expense has to be burried in the product price.
And after all theft is theft no matter how anyone tries to justify it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out of reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try to do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Simple Economics 101 Was: Cracked

Dave...
 

Richard,

I like your style.

To amplify what I believe cecropia64 was saying: The price charged for a
product is based on what it cost to develop, what it costs to duplicate,
what it costs to support, what the employees earn in salary, what it costs
to rent the building, what the next version will need for development, etc.;
all divided by the number of copies to be sold.

A rather large amount of investment for a fairly small (in Windows or Apple
terms) user community. We are after all a niche community of users so a
large cost borne by a small group = high cost per copy. Simple economics.

Dave Carlson
Sent from somewhere in the Western United States, using a Dell Latitude
E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 08:40
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


I feel a perfect fool-- We paid full price, out of pocket. We had no
alternative source of funding, and we wanted JAWS available for our young
daughter to grow up with and learn about.

Silly me, it never crossed my mind to just steal a copy. I have the same
problem when shopping for food or clothes, I keep actually paying for them
as opposed to choosing the route of theft, which would clearly be much more
practical for my family financially.

Maybe if you feel the need to steal software, posting that you support (and
do) such things is not the most prudent idea? What seems really foolish to
me about all of this is that you can use a demo copy of the program easily
and legally for as long as you like (to my understanding) with free upgrades
and all, but apparently the frequent restarting of the computer is too
inconvenient for you, so you therefore need to steal the product and brag
about it?

Oh, and if someone gets JAWS bought with appropriate funding, the product is
still being paid for. The issue is that the company and PEOPLE who develop
and support the product also have to get paid for their efforts. At a
certain point, be it Freedom Scientific or Microsoft, if enough people are
stealing their products they'll just stop developing and supporting them.

I'm funny about things myself, just like these companies-- if I don't get
paid for my work I run out of money and I go out of business.

On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Juan Pablo wrote:

Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message----- From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04,
2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack
For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: JFW 13 With Lotus Notes: Unable To Turn Off Verbosity

Adrian Spratt
 

Kane,

If I'm not mistaken, Lotus Notes is an IBM product. IBM can be helpful with
accessibility questions, so you might also want to inquire there.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kane Brolin
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:50 AM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: JFW 13 With Lotus Notes: Unable To Turn Off Verbosity

Hi, everybody.

Since upgrading my Dell notebook to run the 64-bit version of Windows
7 and the 64-bit edition of JFW 13, I've run into an annoying problem when I
use only one particular application: Lotus Notes, which is still the
required e-mail client I've got in the workplace.

When composing a message, every keystroke provokes JAWS to say the word
"untagged" and the phrase "computer Braille." I do use a Braille
display--the Baum BrailleConnect 40--for some of what I do. But these
announcements in Eloquence Speech are made each time I arrow up or down a
line, and each time I type a character, regardless of whether the display is
on or off and regardless of whether JAWS is instructed to use the Braille
display as an output device.

Yes, I have gone into this application's Verbosity Settings and set them to
the Advanced mode, trying to customize and make it so that as few graphics
as possible are spoken. And I have gone into BASICS inside of JAWS'
universal user options and have turned off Tudor Messages. In all other
applications, JAWS' speech behaves as it should, and it does not give me
these prompts when I am reading a memo or arrowing up and down through a
list of messages or folders--only when I am composing. I've seen this
problem pop up only since upgrading from Ver. 11 to Ver. 13.

Right now, the solution I employ is to turn off speech while composing a
Lotus Notes memo. Does anyone else have any experience or a brainstorm
about this? Thanks.

-Kane

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Adrian Spratt
 

Juan, I recognize you maintain licensed copies of your software. I also
realize you are making the point that many people who need JAWS can't afford
it. And when it comes to a screenreader, "need" is the right word. Without a
professional screenreader, it is hard to get a job or otherwise function in
society.

That said, your argument boils down to condoning piracy, which is
unacceptable. Fortunately, as Nickus de Vos points out, NVDA is a valid
alternative, which is supported by many other posts on this list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:04 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Please, Adrian, let me know where I justified the piracy. Only I put on the
table a thing that is not never mentioned here. As I wrote in my last e-mail
leave away the "easy words"
I know that this topic turn very unconfortable. Sorry, but is a part of your
reality. I promise you do not respond any future e-mail regarding that.

All the best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

This is like saying that because some people get paid government benefits,
tax cheating is a legitimate means of making things equal. I'm surprised
anyone on this list would justify theft.

I'm sorry to extend an off-topic thread, but I can't let this kind of
thinking go unchallenged.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Exactly, Gerald.

A lot of you have an original jaws installed cause of subsidied agencies by
the goverments.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of $1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Gerald Levy
 

It is kind of ironic that the people who most complain about the high cost of JAWS and its SMA's are the same ones who wouldn't hesitate to rush out and spend hundreds of dollars for the latest IPad or IPhone, plus $50 or more per month for service. They moan and whine about FS's high prices but are perfectly willing to throw money at Apple. What's wrong with this picture?

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


I don't agree with piracy but agree that jaws and most other assistive
devices are crazally expensive. If you really can't aford jaws then
use NVDA, it's totally free and feeture wise it's rite up there with
jaws, in fact there's some semi accessible software which I can access
better with NVDA than with jaws. Something else somebody mentioned,
does it really cost $3800 to get a guide dog in the US? If I
understand rite, that's crazy. In South africa we pay about the
equivalent of $15 or $20 but then again for stuff like jaws we pay
about equivalent of $1500. We don't easally get government bersaries
for assistive devices but can claim assistive devices back from the
government through income tax but you must still have the cash to fork
out and then wait a year or more before you can claim it back.

On 2/4/12, Juan Pablo <jpculasso@gmail.com> wrote:
Please, Adrian, let me know where I justified the piracy. Only I put on the
table a thing that is not never mentioned here. As I wrote in my last e-mail
leave away the "easy words"
I know that this topic turn very unconfortable. Sorry, but is a part of your
reality. I promise you do not respond any future e-mail regarding that.

All the best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

This is like saying that because some people get paid government benefits,
tax cheating is a legitimate means of making things equal. I'm surprised
anyone on this list would justify theft.

I'm sorry to extend an off-topic thread, but I can't let this kind of
thinking go unchallenged.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Exactly, Gerald.

A lot of you have an original jaws installed cause of subsidied agencies by
the goverments.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of $1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Agree with you, we might as well go steel our food and furniture. But
my point still stands to the person who started this subject, just use
NVDA.

On 2/4/12, Richard Holloway <rholloway@gopbc.org> wrote:
I feel a perfect fool-- We paid full price, out of pocket. We had no
alternative source of funding, and we wanted JAWS available for our young
daughter to grow up with and learn about.

Silly me, it never crossed my mind to just steal a copy. I have the same
problem when shopping for food or clothes, I keep actually paying for them
as opposed to choosing the route of theft, which would clearly be much more
practical for my family financially.

Maybe if you feel the need to steal software, posting that you support (and
do) such things is not the most prudent idea? What seems really foolish to
me about all of this is that you can use a demo copy of the program easily
and legally for as long as you like (to my understanding) with free upgrades
and all, but apparently the frequent restarting of the computer is too
inconvenient for you, so you therefore need to steal the product and brag
about it?

Oh, and if someone gets JAWS bought with appropriate funding, the product is
still being paid for. The issue is that the company and PEOPLE who develop
and support the product also have to get paid for their efforts. At a
certain point, be it Freedom Scientific or Microsoft, if enough people are
stealing their products they'll just stop developing and supporting them.

I'm funny about things myself, just like these companies-- if I don't get
paid for my work I run out of money and I go out of business.

On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Juan Pablo wrote:

Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message----- From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04,
2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack
For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

cecropia64
 

unfortunately, nobody said that greed doesn't have a whole lot to do with all this, because it certainly does. also, do you really think jaws costs a thousand bucks? i'll bet it costs freedome about a hundred and fifty to twwo hundred to actually produce, if that. oh well, looks like there isn't one answer that fits all.

On 2/4/2012 11:33 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
Just one thing else for interest sake now that you mention steeling
from software companies pockets. I know this is getting off topic but
end of last year sometime I read a study, they actually said if
Microsoft considerably drop their software prices for windows and
office, they'll actually make more of a profit than they currently do.
Because at the moment windows and office is the most pirated software
worldwide and if it's cheeper more people will buy it. If you think
about it most people pirate software because they can't afford it so
imagine how many more will buy windows if it was like $40 or $50, just
look at Apple's Lion OS, the upgrade cost people $30 for 10 machines
assentially $3 per computer.

On 2/4/12, Nickus de Vos<bigboy529@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't agree with piracy but agree that jaws and most other assistive
devices are crazally expensive. If you really can't aford jaws then
use NVDA, it's totally free and feeture wise it's rite up there with
jaws, in fact there's some semi accessible software which I can access
better with NVDA than with jaws. Something else somebody mentioned,
does it really cost $3800 to get a guide dog in the US? If I
understand rite, that's crazy. In South africa we pay about the
equivalent of $15 or $20 but then again for stuff like jaws we pay
about equivalent of $1500. We don't easally get government bersaries
for assistive devices but can claim assistive devices back from the
government through income tax but you must still have the cash to fork
out and then wait a year or more before you can claim it back.

On 2/4/12, Juan Pablo<jpculasso@gmail.com> wrote:
Please, Adrian, let me know where I justified the piracy. Only I put on
the
table a thing that is not never mentioned here. As I wrote in my last
e-mail
leave away the "easy words"
I know that this topic turn very unconfortable. Sorry, but is a part of
your
reality. I promise you do not respond any future e-mail regarding that.

All the best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

This is like saying that because some people get paid government
benefits,
tax cheating is a legitimate means of making things equal. I'm surprised
anyone on this list would justify theft.

I'm sorry to extend an off-topic thread, but I can't let this kind of
thinking go unchallenged.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Exactly, Gerald.

A lot of you have an original jaws installed cause of subsidied agencies
by
the goverments.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of $1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked
or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo"<jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out
of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try
to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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JFW 13 With Lotus Notes: Unable To Turn Off Verbosity

Kane Brolin
 

Hi, everybody.

Since upgrading my Dell notebook to run the 64-bit version of Windows
7 and the 64-bit edition of JFW 13, I've run into an annoying problem
when I use only one particular application: Lotus Notes, which is
still the required e-mail client I've got in the workplace.

When composing a message, every keystroke provokes JAWS to say the
word "untagged" and the phrase "computer Braille." I do use a Braille
display--the Baum BrailleConnect 40--for some of what I do. But these
announcements in Eloquence Speech are made each time I arrow up or
down a line, and each time I type a character, regardless of whether
the display is on or off and regardless of whether JAWS is instructed
to use the Braille display as an output device.

Yes, I have gone into this application's Verbosity Settings and set
them to the Advanced mode, trying to customize and make it so that as
few graphics as possible are spoken. And I have gone into BASICS
inside of JAWS' universal user options and have turned off Tudor
Messages. In all other applications, JAWS' speech behaves as it
should, and it does not give me these prompts when I am reading a memo
or arrowing up and down through a list of messages or folders--only
when I am composing. I've seen this problem pop up only since
upgrading from Ver. 11 to Ver. 13.

Right now, the solution I employ is to turn off speech while composing
a Lotus Notes memo. Does anyone else have any experience or a
brainstorm about this? Thanks.

-Kane


Re: Donating JAWS

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

I could be wrong but if you give away or sell your old licence, don't
you also lose your current licence? Said I could be wrong but as I had
it all along is if you let's say had jaws 10 and now baught jaws 13,
you just paid to extend that same licence to jaws 13 but with your one
licence you can now use jaws 13 and still use jaws 10 and maybe also
jaws 11 and 12 in between. Think you keep your original licence all
along they just enable the versions of jaws as you pay and give you a
activation code.

On 2/4/12, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur@gmail.com> wrote:
How much does it cost to do this? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar and His Beamer" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Donating JAWS


DeadCatBounce,

No, Sending JAWS to third world countries does no good. They need your
license to run it. Are you willing to donate your license as well? If so
you'll need to specify the new owner and contact Freedom Scientific to
have
them formally transfer the license.

Dave Carlson
Sent from somewhere in the Western United States, using a Dell Latitude
E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "deadcatbounce" <JAWS@ca.rr.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 08:01
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


So a "crack" is a bootlegged copy of the original? I paid full price for
mine years ago, but I do hae a question for people: Do you just toss the
old versions of JAWS once you get the new one or do you keep them around?
I've heard of people who send their old copies to Africa or other
third-world countries or something like that. Is that a viable, or legal,
option for old CD's that are just sitting around and which you haven't
tossed yet?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7



Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of $1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked
or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out
of reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants
short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try
to do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
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jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Donating JAWS

Dani Pagador
 

Hi.
Just my $.02, fwiw. If you donate JFW and sign over your license, then I think the ability for you to upgrade to a newer version from the one you're currently using gets nixed, since you no longer own your license. For that matter, if your copy of JFW crashes on you, you won't be able to get any more keys, since the keys are tied to the license number that was formerly yours.
More Later,
Dani

On 2/4/2012 6:23 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
How much does it cost to do this? RJ
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Donating JAWS


DeadCatBounce,

No, Sending JAWS to third world countries does no good. They need your
license to run it. Are you willing to donate your license as well? If so
you'll need to specify the new owner and contact Freedom Scientific to have
them formally transfer the license.

Dave Carlson
Sent from somewhere in the Western United States, using a Dell Latitude
E6520 and Windows 7


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 08:01
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


So a "crack" is a bootlegged copy of the original? I paid full price for
mine years ago, but I do hae a question for people: Do you just toss the
old versions of JAWS once you get the new one or do you keep them around?
I've heard of people who send their old copies to Africa or other
third-world countries or something like that. Is that a viable, or legal,
option for old CD's that are just sitting around and which you haven't
tossed yet?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7



Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of $1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message----- From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out
of reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try
to do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
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Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Richard Holloway
 

I feel a perfect fool-- We paid full price, out of pocket. We had no alternative source of funding, and we wanted JAWS available for our young daughter to grow up with and learn about.

Silly me, it never crossed my mind to just steal a copy. I have the same problem when shopping for food or clothes, I keep actually paying for them as opposed to choosing the route of theft, which would clearly be much more practical for my family financially.

Maybe if you feel the need to steal software, posting that you support (and do) such things is not the most prudent idea? What seems really foolish to me about all of this is that you can use a demo copy of the program easily and legally for as long as you like (to my understanding) with free upgrades and all, but apparently the frequent restarting of the computer is too inconvenient for you, so you therefore need to steal the product and brag about it?

Oh, and if someone gets JAWS bought with appropriate funding, the product is still being paid for. The issue is that the company and PEOPLE who develop and support the product also have to get paid for their efforts. At a certain point, be it Freedom Scientific or Microsoft, if enough people are stealing their products they'll just stop developing and supporting them.

I'm funny about things myself, just like these companies-- if I don't get paid for my work I run out of money and I go out of business.

On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Juan Pablo wrote:

Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message----- From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out of reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try to do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
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jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Oh sorry didn't understand thought the user must pay $3800 for it. Yes
over here it's also expensive to get them trained up etc, SA guide
dogs relys on a lot of sponsers and volenteers and as I said the end
user pay something like $15 which is nothing.

On 2/4/12, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@gmail.com> wrote:
Just one thing else for interest sake now that you mention steeling
from software companies pockets. I know this is getting off topic but
end of last year sometime I read a study, they actually said if
Microsoft considerably drop their software prices for windows and
office, they'll actually make more of a profit than they currently do.
Because at the moment windows and office is the most pirated software
worldwide and if it's cheeper more people will buy it. If you think
about it most people pirate software because they can't afford it so
imagine how many more will buy windows if it was like $40 or $50, just
look at Apple's Lion OS, the upgrade cost people $30 for 10 machines
assentially $3 per computer.

On 2/4/12, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't agree with piracy but agree that jaws and most other assistive
devices are crazally expensive. If you really can't aford jaws then
use NVDA, it's totally free and feeture wise it's rite up there with
jaws, in fact there's some semi accessible software which I can access
better with NVDA than with jaws. Something else somebody mentioned,
does it really cost $3800 to get a guide dog in the US? If I
understand rite, that's crazy. In South africa we pay about the
equivalent of $15 or $20 but then again for stuff like jaws we pay
about equivalent of $1500. We don't easally get government bersaries
for assistive devices but can claim assistive devices back from the
government through income tax but you must still have the cash to fork
out and then wait a year or more before you can claim it back.

On 2/4/12, Juan Pablo <jpculasso@gmail.com> wrote:
Please, Adrian, let me know where I justified the piracy. Only I put on
the
table a thing that is not never mentioned here. As I wrote in my last
e-mail
leave away the "easy words"
I know that this topic turn very unconfortable. Sorry, but is a part of
your
reality. I promise you do not respond any future e-mail regarding that.

All the best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

This is like saying that because some people get paid government
benefits,
tax cheating is a legitimate means of making things equal. I'm surprised
anyone on this list would justify theft.

I'm sorry to extend an off-topic thread, but I can't let this kind of
thinking go unchallenged.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Exactly, Gerald.

A lot of you have an original jaws installed cause of subsidied
agencies
by
the goverments.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of
$1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked
or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The
Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out
of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try
to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Just one thing else for interest sake now that you mention steeling
from software companies pockets. I know this is getting off topic but
end of last year sometime I read a study, they actually said if
Microsoft considerably drop their software prices for windows and
office, they'll actually make more of a profit than they currently do.
Because at the moment windows and office is the most pirated software
worldwide and if it's cheeper more people will buy it. If you think
about it most people pirate software because they can't afford it so
imagine how many more will buy windows if it was like $40 or $50, just
look at Apple's Lion OS, the upgrade cost people $30 for 10 machines
assentially $3 per computer.

On 2/4/12, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't agree with piracy but agree that jaws and most other assistive
devices are crazally expensive. If you really can't aford jaws then
use NVDA, it's totally free and feeture wise it's rite up there with
jaws, in fact there's some semi accessible software which I can access
better with NVDA than with jaws. Something else somebody mentioned,
does it really cost $3800 to get a guide dog in the US? If I
understand rite, that's crazy. In South africa we pay about the
equivalent of $15 or $20 but then again for stuff like jaws we pay
about equivalent of $1500. We don't easally get government bersaries
for assistive devices but can claim assistive devices back from the
government through income tax but you must still have the cash to fork
out and then wait a year or more before you can claim it back.

On 2/4/12, Juan Pablo <jpculasso@gmail.com> wrote:
Please, Adrian, let me know where I justified the piracy. Only I put on
the
table a thing that is not never mentioned here. As I wrote in my last
e-mail
leave away the "easy words"
I know that this topic turn very unconfortable. Sorry, but is a part of
your
reality. I promise you do not respond any future e-mail regarding that.

All the best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

This is like saying that because some people get paid government
benefits,
tax cheating is a legitimate means of making things equal. I'm surprised
anyone on this list would justify theft.

I'm sorry to extend an off-topic thread, but I can't let this kind of
thinking go unchallenged.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Exactly, Gerald.

A lot of you have an original jaws installed cause of subsidied agencies
by
the goverments.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of $1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked
or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out
of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try
to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Juan Pablo <jpculasso@...>
 

No, Nickus, the guide dog schools give the dogs totally free to the final users.
But they spent a lot of money since the dog is a puppy to the final training stage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nickus de Vos
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 2:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

I don't agree with piracy but agree that jaws and most other assistive
devices are crazally expensive. If you really can't aford jaws then
use NVDA, it's totally free and feeture wise it's rite up there with
jaws, in fact there's some semi accessible software which I can access
better with NVDA than with jaws. Something else somebody mentioned,
does it really cost $3800 to get a guide dog in the US? If I
understand rite, that's crazy. In South africa we pay about the
equivalent of $15 or $20 but then again for stuff like jaws we pay
about equivalent of $1500. We don't easally get government bersaries
for assistive devices but can claim assistive devices back from the
government through income tax but you must still have the cash to fork
out and then wait a year or more before you can claim it back.

On 2/4/12, Juan Pablo <jpculasso@gmail.com> wrote:
Please, Adrian, let me know where I justified the piracy. Only I put on the
table a thing that is not never mentioned here. As I wrote in my last e-mail
leave away the "easy words"
I know that this topic turn very unconfortable. Sorry, but is a part of your
reality. I promise you do not respond any future e-mail regarding that.

All the best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

This is like saying that because some people get paid government benefits,
tax cheating is a legitimate means of making things equal. I'm surprised
anyone on this list would justify theft.

I'm sorry to extend an off-topic thread, but I can't let this kind of
thinking go unchallenged.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Exactly, Gerald.

A lot of you have an original jaws installed cause of subsidied agencies by
the goverments.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of $1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Donating JAWS

RJ Sandefur
 

How much does it cost to do this? RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar and His Beamer" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Donating JAWS


DeadCatBounce,

No, Sending JAWS to third world countries does no good. They need your
license to run it. Are you willing to donate your license as well? If so
you'll need to specify the new owner and contact Freedom Scientific to have
them formally transfer the license.

Dave Carlson
Sent from somewhere in the Western United States, using a Dell Latitude
E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "deadcatbounce" <JAWS@ca.rr.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 08:01
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


So a "crack" is a bootlegged copy of the original? I paid full price for
mine years ago, but I do hae a question for people: Do you just toss the
old versions of JAWS once you get the new one or do you keep them around?
I've heard of people who send their old copies to Africa or other
third-world countries or something like that. Is that a viable, or legal,
option for old CD's that are just sitting around and which you haven't
tossed yet?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7



Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of $1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out
of reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try
to do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

I don't agree with piracy but agree that jaws and most other assistive
devices are crazally expensive. If you really can't aford jaws then
use NVDA, it's totally free and feeture wise it's rite up there with
jaws, in fact there's some semi accessible software which I can access
better with NVDA than with jaws. Something else somebody mentioned,
does it really cost $3800 to get a guide dog in the US? If I
understand rite, that's crazy. In South africa we pay about the
equivalent of $15 or $20 but then again for stuff like jaws we pay
about equivalent of $1500. We don't easally get government bersaries
for assistive devices but can claim assistive devices back from the
government through income tax but you must still have the cash to fork
out and then wait a year or more before you can claim it back.

On 2/4/12, Juan Pablo <jpculasso@gmail.com> wrote:
Please, Adrian, let me know where I justified the piracy. Only I put on the
table a thing that is not never mentioned here. As I wrote in my last e-mail
leave away the "easy words"
I know that this topic turn very unconfortable. Sorry, but is a part of your
reality. I promise you do not respond any future e-mail regarding that.

All the best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

This is like saying that because some people get paid government benefits,
tax cheating is a legitimate means of making things equal. I'm surprised
anyone on this list would justify theft.

I'm sorry to extend an off-topic thread, but I can't let this kind of
thinking go unchallenged.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Exactly, Gerald.

A lot of you have an original jaws installed cause of subsidied agencies by
the goverments.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of $1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a cracked or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants short
cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who try to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

email me off list!!!

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Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Juan Pablo <jpculasso@...>
 

Sorry. My last clarification. 100% of the software that are installed on my machine are genuine.

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 2:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

you got that right. besides, think of it this way. if you were in the
software business and people were stealing out of your pocket by using
cracked versions, wouldn't you be alittle pissed off? of course you
would. please don't say other wise unless you are one of those.

On 2/4/2012 10:24 AM, michael grove wrote:
And besides I don't know anyone that cant get it if they need it. There are
so many agencies that will get it for someone that needs it. It doesn't
even have to be for employement. Do a little research for crying out loud.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so out
of reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants
short cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all
of you who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us
who try to do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:
this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

email me off list!!!

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