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Re: jfw 13 out next week?

Dave...
 

Kimsan,

No, if you look at the beginning of this thread, you'll see that Mr. Ted was
replying rather belatedly to a message dated 9 September, over a month old.
No need for concern, listers!

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 14:14
Subject: jfw 13 out next week?


Is jfw 13 out next week?

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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Dave...
 

Au contraire, Monsieur Chris...

It can read a page of a document, so that certainly qualifies it to be
reading a document. Perhaps it's better to make sure you qualify what you
mean. I suspect you are saying that it does not readily replace an OCR like
Openbook or Kurzweil?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Bartlett" <themusicalbrewer@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 12:23
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


JFW 13 does have a limited OCR feature, useful for reading unlabeled or
graphical controls. It is not useful for reading documents.

Chris Bartlett


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Wow, that may push me over the edge, despite Access problems which I
fully expect to remain unsolved.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I'm totally serious, at least that's what the JAWS site says. It works
with
graphical text and they used a setup file to demonstrate it. I'm trying
to
find out more, but there isn't much info about it now. Guess I'll find
out
next week.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Hi,
Are you pulling my leg?JAWS 13 will have OCR function? Really? How
extensive will this functionality be, and what's to become of Open
Book,
then?

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I like the OCR functions Jaws will have. I wonder if that portion is
scriptable. That would be so awesome.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard" <hwolcott@stny.rr.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


hi john and all:
no disrespect, john, but I will wait for an official announcement
from
FS.
usuallty there is a podcast released before even a public beta.
there is still no podcast yet.


howard wolcott

--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:02 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to
try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write
scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: jfw 13 out next week?

chris hallsworth <christopherh40@...>
 

If so that is a darn rush for a beta product. Just my thoughts. JFW has always been like that though. Three betas and it's out the door. FS should release as many betas as necessary, then perhaps a release candidate then the final release.


Chris Hallsworth
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On 14/10/2011 22:14, Kimsan wrote:
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jfw 13 out next week?

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Is jfw 13 out next week?

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Re: ownership

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Sorry, James&co., I thought I sent it directly to her

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; Dorothy
Subject: RE: ownership

Far as I know, you own a copy of JAWS or Office the same way you own a
copy of a favorite LP or CD Of course, the artist owns the work ,but
you own the physical medium. In the early Wild West days, most software
manuals insisted you back up your precious media, even prior to
installing the program, for your own protection.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: ownership

This isn't exactly an appropriate question for the JAWS list. You may
want
to consider taking it to a more generalized technology list. For
example,
the blindtech list.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: September 12, 2011 5:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: ownership

Dear list, I am wondering what I really own, I know the scanner and
printer
are mine but jaws is under licence and my Ocr is linked to me personally
how
about coppies of Office however,do I own them or is that microsofts as
well.?, by the way I think the office I once had with some ocr facility
was
on a cd called small business.,but the engineer said the 2 cds I had
were
scratched use office 7 which you paid for when you bought the dell
desktop
package. Regards dorothy


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Re: ownership

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Far as I know, you own a copy of JAWS or Office the same way you own a
copy of a favorite LP or CD Of course, the artist owns the work ,but
you own the physical medium. In the early Wild West days, most software
manuals insisted you back up your precious media, even prior to
installing the program, for your own protection.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: ownership

This isn't exactly an appropriate question for the JAWS list. You may
want
to consider taking it to a more generalized technology list. For
example,
the blindtech list.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: September 12, 2011 5:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: ownership

Dear list, I am wondering what I really own, I know the scanner and
printer
are mine but jaws is under licence and my Ocr is linked to me personally
how
about coppies of Office however,do I own them or is that microsofts as
well.?, by the way I think the office I once had with some ocr facility
was
on a cd called small business.,but the engineer said the 2 cds I had
were
scratched use office 7 which you paid for when you bought the dell
desktop
package. Regards dorothy


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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Christopher Bartlett <themusicalbrewer@...>
 

JFW 13 does have a limited OCR feature, useful for reading unlabeled or
graphical controls. It is not useful for reading documents.

Chris Bartlett

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Wow, that may push me over the edge, despite Access problems which I
fully expect to remain unsolved.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I'm totally serious, at least that's what the JAWS site says. It works
with
graphical text and they used a setup file to demonstrate it. I'm trying
to
find out more, but there isn't much info about it now. Guess I'll find
out
next week.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Hi,
Are you pulling my leg?JAWS 13 will have OCR function? Really? How
extensive will this functionality be, and what's to become of Open
Book,
then?

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I like the OCR functions Jaws will have. I wonder if that portion is
scriptable. That would be so awesome.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard" <hwolcott@stny.rr.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


hi john and all:
no disrespect, john, but I will wait for an official announcement
from
FS.
usuallty there is a podcast released before even a public beta.
there is still no podcast yet.


howard wolcott

--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:02 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to
try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write
scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Adjust JAWS options

Charles Coe
 

This information is available throough FS webinars which are free in most
cases to all JAWS users.
Additionally training tutorials are available through the JAWS Hhelp menu
under Training.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options

Thanks to everyone for the hints and reminders. I have not used the Settings
Center before, but should have remembered about the control shift d for
default changes in all applications.

It is nice to have helpful people to ask while trying to adjust to all of
the changes and learn my way around 12.

Joni
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: Adjust JAWS options


Joni, when you tried making the change with insert-F2, I'm guessing you
skipped one step, and possibly two. To make a change apply across all
applications, you need to press control-shift-d after entering the
configuration manager but before choosing the setting. After you make your
selection, or selections, press control-s to save, then exit.

This is FYI. Dave is right to steer you to FS's new settings center for
handling settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options

Dave, that worked! Thanks so much. The inconsistency was driving me crazy.

So is the insert F2 route just temporary, or does it not work that reliably?

When I install 13, will I have to make all of these adjustments again?

Joni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options


Joni,

Try changing this in the Settings Center, instead. Insert+NumberRow 6

JAWS13 now allows you to set some of these more permanently in the new
"improved" JAWS Options dialog.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joni Colver" <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:19
Subject: Adjust JAWS options


With JAWS 12 I have been trying to adjust JAWS options with mixed results.
When I open that option in various programs sometimes the things I change
stick and sometimes they do not.

I can place the key echo to none and it works, but when I reopen Word or
Outlook Express it is back to character echo.

I am accessing this with the insert F2 key combination. I make the changes
I want and then close the program. Should I be doing a save?

Even though I used help to read about the execute button I don't really
understand its purpose. Is there a difference between using the spacebar to
get the choices I want and using the execute button? I have been using the
spacebar and then alt c to close after making changes. I am making multiple
changes and then closing. Do the changes have to be made one at a time?
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Joni


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Re: Adjust JAWS options

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

Thanks to everyone for the hints and reminders. I have not used the Settings
Center before, but should have remembered about the control shift d for
default changes in all applications.

It is nice to have helpful people to ask while trying to adjust to all of
the changes and learn my way around 12.

Joni

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: Adjust JAWS options


Joni, when you tried making the change with insert-F2, I'm guessing you
skipped one step, and possibly two. To make a change apply across all
applications, you need to press control-shift-d after entering the
configuration manager but before choosing the setting. After you make your
selection, or selections, press control-s to save, then exit.

This is FYI. Dave is right to steer you to FS's new settings center for
handling settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options

Dave, that worked! Thanks so much. The inconsistency was driving me crazy.

So is the insert F2 route just temporary, or does it not work that reliably?

When I install 13, will I have to make all of these adjustments again?

Joni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options


Joni,

Try changing this in the Settings Center, instead. Insert+NumberRow 6

JAWS13 now allows you to set some of these more permanently in the new
"improved" JAWS Options dialog.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joni Colver" <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:19
Subject: Adjust JAWS options


With JAWS 12 I have been trying to adjust JAWS options with mixed results.
When I open that option in various programs sometimes the things I change
stick and sometimes they do not.

I can place the key echo to none and it works, but when I reopen Word or
Outlook Express it is back to character echo.

I am accessing this with the insert F2 key combination. I make the changes
I want and then close the program. Should I be doing a save?

Even though I used help to read about the execute button I don't really
understand its purpose. Is there a difference between using the spacebar to
get the choices I want and using the execute button? I have been using the
spacebar and then alt c to close after making changes. I am making multiple
changes and then closing. Do the changes have to be made one at a time?
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Joni


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Re: Adjust JAWS options

Adrian Spratt
 

Joni, when you tried making the change with insert-F2, I'm guessing you
skipped one step, and possibly two. To make a change apply across all
applications, you need to press control-shift-d after entering the
configuration manager but before choosing the setting. After you make your
selection, or selections, press control-s to save, then exit.

This is FYI. Dave is right to steer you to FS's new settings center for
handling settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options

Dave, that worked! Thanks so much. The inconsistency was driving me crazy.

So is the insert F2 route just temporary, or does it not work that reliably?

When I install 13, will I have to make all of these adjustments again?

Joni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options


Joni,

Try changing this in the Settings Center, instead. Insert+NumberRow 6

JAWS13 now allows you to set some of these more permanently in the new
"improved" JAWS Options dialog.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joni Colver" <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:19
Subject: Adjust JAWS options


With JAWS 12 I have been trying to adjust JAWS options with mixed results.
When I open that option in various programs sometimes the things I change
stick and sometimes they do not.

I can place the key echo to none and it works, but when I reopen Word or
Outlook Express it is back to character echo.

I am accessing this with the insert F2 key combination. I make the changes
I want and then close the program. Should I be doing a save?

Even though I used help to read about the execute button I don't really
understand its purpose. Is there a difference between using the spacebar to
get the choices I want and using the execute button? I have been using the
spacebar and then alt c to close after making changes. I am making multiple
changes and then closing. Do the changes have to be made one at a time?
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Joni


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Re: Adjust JAWS options

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

If your wanting to use the insert+f2,
And then s=setting center,
After you enter, press ctrl+shift+d=default,
Then any change would be made globaly.

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options

Dave, that worked! Thanks so much. The inconsistency was driving me crazy.

So is the insert F2 route just temporary, or does it not work that reliably?

When I install 13, will I have to make all of these adjustments again?

Joni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options


Joni,

Try changing this in the Settings Center, instead. Insert+NumberRow 6

JAWS13 now allows you to set some of these more permanently in the new
"improved" JAWS Options dialog.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joni Colver" <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:19
Subject: Adjust JAWS options


With JAWS 12 I have been trying to adjust JAWS options with mixed results.
When I open that option in various programs sometimes the things I change
stick and sometimes they do not.

I can place the key echo to none and it works, but when I reopen Word or
Outlook Express it is back to character echo.

I am accessing this with the insert F2 key combination. I make the changes
I want and then close the program. Should I be doing a save?

Even though I used help to read about the execute button I don't really
understand its purpose. Is there a difference between using the spacebar to
get the choices I want and using the execute button? I have been using the
spacebar and then alt c to close after making changes. I am making multiple
changes and then closing. Do the changes have to be made one at a time?
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Joni


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Re: Adjust JAWS options

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

Dave, that worked! Thanks so much. The inconsistency was driving me crazy.
So is the insert F2 route just temporary, or does it not work that reliably?

When I install 13, will I have to make all of these adjustments again?

Joni

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Adjust JAWS options


Joni,

Try changing this in the Settings Center, instead. Insert+NumberRow 6

JAWS13 now allows you to set some of these more permanently in the new
"improved" JAWS Options dialog.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joni Colver" <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:19
Subject: Adjust JAWS options


With JAWS 12 I have been trying to adjust JAWS options with mixed results.
When I open that option in various programs sometimes the things I change
stick and sometimes they do not.

I can place the key echo to none and it works, but when I reopen Word or
Outlook Express it is back to character echo.

I am accessing this with the insert F2 key combination. I make the changes
I want and then close the program. Should I be doing a save?

Even though I used help to read about the execute button I don't really
understand its purpose. Is there a difference between using the spacebar to
get the choices I want and using the execute button? I have been using the
spacebar and then alt c to close after making changes. I am making multiple
changes and then closing. Do the changes have to be made one at a time?
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Joni


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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Wow, that may push me over the edge, despite Access problems which I
fully expect to remain unsolved.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I'm totally serious, at least that's what the JAWS site says. It works
with
graphical text and they used a setup file to demonstrate it. I'm trying
to
find out more, but there isn't much info about it now. Guess I'll find
out
next week.
John
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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Hi,
Are you pulling my leg?JAWS 13 will have OCR function? Really? How
extensive will this functionality be, and what's to become of Open
Book,
then?

Tom


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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I like the OCR functions Jaws will have. I wonder if that portion is
scriptable. That would be so awesome.
John
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


hi john and all:
no disrespect, john, but I will wait for an official announcement
from
FS.
usuallty there is a podcast released before even a public beta.
there is still no podcast yet.


howard wolcott

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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:02 PM
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Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to
try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write
scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Adjust JAWS options

Dave...
 

Joni,

Try changing this in the Settings Center, instead. Insert+NumberRow 6

JAWS13 now allows you to set some of these more permanently in the new
"improved" JAWS Options dialog.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joni Colver" <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:19
Subject: Adjust JAWS options


With JAWS 12 I have been trying to adjust JAWS options with mixed results.
When I open that option in various programs sometimes the things I change
stick and sometimes they do not.

I can place the key echo to none and it works, but when I reopen Word or
Outlook Express it is back to character echo.

I am accessing this with the insert F2 key combination. I make the changes
I want and then close the program. Should I be doing a save?

Even though I used help to read about the execute button I don't really
understand its purpose. Is there a difference between using the spacebar to
get the choices I want and using the execute button? I have been using the
spacebar and then alt c to close after making changes. I am making multiple
changes and then closing. Do the changes have to be made one at a time?
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Joni


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Adjust JAWS options

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

With JAWS 12 I have been trying to adjust JAWS options with mixed results.
When I open that option in various programs sometimes the things I change
stick and sometimes they do not.

I can place the key echo to none and it works, but when I reopen Word or
Outlook Express it is back to character echo.

I am accessing this with the insert F2 key combination. I make the changes
I want and then close the program. Should I be doing a save?

Even though I used help to read about the execute button I don't really
understand its purpose. Is there a difference between using the spacebar to
get the choices I want and using the execute button? I have been using the
spacebar and then alt c to close after making changes. I am making multiple
changes and then closing. Do the changes have to be made one at a time?
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Joni


JAWS 13 Public Beta 3 scheduled for 2 PM eastern, October 13

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello this came from another list;
This is from FS.


All,



At 2 PM Eastern, you should find an update to JAWS 13 Public Beta 3. The
new version will be 13.0.241 and you will get alerted the next time JAWS
starts, after it is released.



I have included the list of changes coming in this new build for you to
review. Thanks again to everyone for the great feedback over the past
weeks.



Eric Damery



Enhancements in JAWS 13.0.241 (October 13, 2011)

The following is a list of improvements made between JAWS 13.0.171,
public beta 2, and 13.0.241, public beta 3. Note that while many
customer reported enhancements are included in this release, the
following is a list of more notable changes.

JAWS

* Resolved an issue with all of the sports scores look up sources
for Research It not returning any results.
* Resolved issues with the Stock Quotes Research It look up
source.
* Resolved an issue selecting Mark Colors in Braille from the Run
JAWS Manager dialog box where JAWS would use the Custom Highlight Assign
instead. Selecting Mark Colors in Braille now works as expected.
* You can now perform commands that include the SPACEBAR directly
from a Focus braille display. For example, ALT+SPACEBAR to open the
System menu, or INSERT+SPACEBAR to activate the JAWS keystrokes layer.
* Updated the INSERT+W help message for the Webinar training room
plug-in to remove references to keystrokes that are no longer supported.
* If Quick Settings is open in another window, resolved an issue
where pressing INSERT+V while in the JAWS window, the title of the Quick
Settings dialog box was not getting announced as it gained focus.
* Added long Keyboard Help messages for the list of onMouseOvers
(INSERT+WINDOWS KEY+SEMICOLON), next clickable element (SLASH), prior
clickable element (SHIFT+SLASH), and list of clickable elements
(INSERT+CTRL+SLASH) keystrokes. To hear the long description for a
command, press the keystroke twice quickly.
* Added an Include Dimensions option to the General Options group
in Quick Settings. When selected, JAWS will announce dimensions for
graphics embedded in documents or Outlook messages where Word is the
editor.
* Resolved an intermittent issue saving default settings in
Settings Center.
* Resolved an issue where bullets were not displaying correctly in
braille with certain documents opened in WordPad.
* Addressed an issue with the Reuters Research It lookup source
where only five stories were listed even though the results page says
top 10 stories. Research It now lists all 10 stories.
* When pressing BACKSPACE in an edit field of a Java application,
JAWS now reads the character being deleted.
* When opening the Select a Voice Profile dialog box
(INSERT+CTRL+S), resolved an issue where the currently selected profile
was not displayed on the screen.

IBM Lotus Notes

* Addressed an issue of JAWS not reading section titles while
navigating in a note.

Microsoft Excel

* The help messages that are spoken when entering or editing a
formula are now also shown on the braille display as flash messages.
* Addressed an issue with the Input message edit field in the Data
Validation dialog box not being spoken and brailled correctly.
* Resolved issues changing between manually defined column and row
titles to automatically defined column and row titles determined in the
Excel spreadsheet.
* Resolved an issue in Excel 2007 and 2010 where the content of
text boxes was not being displayed in the Virtual Viewer. There were
only blank lines where the text in the box should have appeared.
* When navigating the list of functions for inserting into a
spreadsheet, addressed an issue where JAWS was not speaking or
displaying in braille the function description.
* Addressed an issue with editing the contents of a text box.
* If you want to manually set column and row title reading, you no
longer have to open the Quick Settings dialog box multiple times to
configure these options.
* If you add a hyperlink to another worksheet in the same
spreadsheet, resolved an issue where JAWS would not announce the
hyperlink if it was in a merged cell.

Microsoft Internet Explorer

* Improved navigating frames on a Web page that contain a Long
Description attribute. This was addressed for both Internet Explorer and
Firefox.
* Resolved issues creating a word list (CTRL+INSERT+W) on Web
pages in both Internet Explorer and Firefox.
* Addressed issues navigating with the JAWS cursor in Internet
Explorer 9.

Microsoft Outlook

* Addressed a reported issue where JAWS would announce "CC" for
the Subject field in a meeting request. This only occurred in Outlook
2010.
* Addressed an issue where Outlook 2010 could unexpectedly close
when opening the Signatures dialog box.
* Resolved an issue reading messages in the Inbox message list
that contain & symbols in the From field and have no subject. This was
observed in Outlook 2010.
* Resolved an issue in Outlook 2010 where the status of the check
boxes was not being read in the tree view of mail folders when selecting
the folders that you want to apply view settings to.
* Resolved an issue where JAWS would begin reading the entire
Inbox list instead of the currently selected item after moving to the
Inbox from the Calendar using CTRL+SHIFT+I.
* Resolved an issue where you could not perform the command to
forward a message from the Focus braille display when in the message
body.
* When pressing INSERT+CTRL+I to read the info bar, resolved an
issue where JAWS was announcing the info bar was empty even if it was
not.
* Resolved an issue where pressing CTRL+SHIFT+V to open the Move
dialog box would not work from an open Outlook 2007 or 2010 message.
* Addressed an issue with JAWS no longer reading correctly after
updating the date field in an Outlook template.
* Resolved an intermittent issue where text entered into the
Search edit field in Quick Settings would not be correct if you
attempted to type immediately after opening Quick Settings. This
occurred more frequently when opening Quick Settings from an open
message.
* Resolved an issue where Link Count was not appearing in Quick
Settings when opened from Outlook. This option can be found under
Reading Options in the tree view.
* Addressed an issue where the Invisible Cursor was being
activated when using ALT+GRAVE to move to the message body.
* Addressed a reported issue of changes made to a Speech and
Sounds scheme not working as expected.
* Resolved an issue in Outlook 2007 and 2010 where pressing
INSERT+A in a message with one or more attachments would not move to the
attachments list.
* When copying selected text from the body of a message, JAWS no
longer says "copy to clipboard" twice.
* Addressed an intermittent issue where the messages "menu" and
"leaving menus" were spoken while navigating in the File menu in Outlook
2010.
* If you have more than one e-mail account, addressed an issue
where JAWS would not read the available accounts when moving focus to
the From button and activating it in a new message.

Microsoft PowerPoint

* Resolved an issue where pressing ESC to close the Virtual Ribbon
would completely close the menus, even if you were in a submenu. Now, if
you are in a submenu, each press of the ESC key will move you up a level
in the menus until you finally exit the ribbon.
* Addressed an issue activating items in the Virtual Ribbons using
the SPACEBAR.

Microsoft Word

* Resolved a reported issue of characters not always being entered
when typing in the footer area of a document.
* Resolved an issue where F6 and SHIFT+F6 would not work as
expected after performing a Find in Word 2010.
* Addressed an issue with JAWS becoming sluggish in Word 2003
under Windows 7 64-bit.
* When a non-uniform table is encountered during a Say All,
addressed an issue where JAWS was not announcing when the number of
columns and rows changed.
* Resolved an issue where navigating over a border using the ARROW
keys gave a different description than when you pressed ALT+SHIFT+B to
describe the border.
* Resolved a reported issue with JAWS double speaking while
reading by line. This was also addressed in Outlook.

Mozilla Firefox

* Resolved an issue where an extended select list box would no
longer be shown in the virtual buffer after selecting one or more items.
* JAWS now indicates if a Web page element offers context help as
you navigate. To read this help message, press INSERT+F1 while focused
on the element.
* When selecting a link located inside a table, resolved an issue
encountered when going back to the previous page where JAWS would not
remember your last location.
* Addressed issues with navigating in ARIA tree views.
* Resolved an issue in the Chatzilla extension with incoming text
not automatically being read in a chat session.
* Resolved an issue of JAWS not identifying links in lists that
contain both text and links.
* Resolved an issue where the Web page would scroll each time UP
or DOWN ARROW was pressed.
* Resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as expected in the
Password Manager in Firefox 7.
* Extraneous text is no longer sometimes flashed in braille when
Forms Mode is activated in an edit field.
* Addressed issues navigating Web pages when using JAWS and MAGic
together.

Mozilla Thunderbird

* When composing a message, field names are now shown correctly in
braille.
* Resolved an issue with JAWS not reading as expected in the
Password Manager in Thunderbird 6.

Winamp

* JAWS no longer announces "shuffle mode is off" when using
INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to mute speech.

Windows Live Mail

* Resolved an issue where JAWS would become sluggish when moving
up past the message headers using the JAWS cursor.


Re: Trouble authorizing JAWS 12

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I had a similar problem after my last SMA. I blamed my connection at
the time. Given what I saw of 12, I just let it ride.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Trouble authorizing JAWS 12

I just talked to tech support and they resolved the issue. I have JAWS
5 on
my computer. I did download JAWS 12 from the Internet.

They had me go to the fs activate website to do the authorization and it

worked out fine. She did not say why I could not do it the typical way.

Maybe it will work for me when I get 13.

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Re: Good practice for writing accessible website

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Hi thanks a lot everybody for all the links I'm sure this will help a lot.

On 10/14/11, Gary King <w4wkz@bellsouth.net> wrote:
GW Micro also has a page dedicated to web accessibility at

http://www.gwmicro.com/Developers/Web/

with links to resources and some quick accessibility tips.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Marie Medlar" <amedlar1@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Good practice for writing accessible website


The American Foundation for the Blind has information on this
http://www.afb.org/section.asp?SectionID=4&TopicID=167

And they refer you to the Web Access Initiative
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT.


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From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Good practice for writing accessible website


Check out the W3C accessibility guidelines.

At 05:31 PM 10/13/2011, you wrote:
Hi all I've asked this before but didn't really get good answers or
something helpfull anyway. I'm looking for some sorce some documents
or websites or whatever which could give web developers some pointers
on creating their websites in a way so that it's accessible with
screen readers. Stuff like what to avoid, how to code and how not to
code. I'm not in to development myself and understand very little of
it but want it for somebody else and for him to write the website with
me testing each part and him changing again simply takes too long. I
also sometimes email people even if it's big companies to ask them to
consider making their websites more screen reader friendly and some
sorces would help a lot because I don't always know what to tell them,
a lot of people are keen to change but once they ask me well how must
we do it, I can't really answer them because as I said I don't really
know anything about web design myself.

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Re: Currently Coding a new application

Life My Way <lifemyway@...>
 

it is
lifemyway@yahoo.com

I am interested in knowing about this new ap you are working on.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:33 AM
Subject: RE: Currently Coding a new application


Sure I can contact you off list. I didn't catch your email address though.
John

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On Behalf Of Life My Way
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Currently Coding a new application

John, can you contact me off list about your program please?
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Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:41 PM
Subject: Currently Coding a new application


Hi All,

As some may have heard, I am working on a new project and already well into
it. It looks very promising. As to hinting what it is, I cannot announce it
yet and blow it. I'm working with the NFB and the company on making this
available.

Just to let you know, it is a monsterous program and I found a way to make
it work.

Sorry to keep you all guessing, but I will let you know when it is ready to
announce.

John Martyn

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FW: Trouble authorizing JAWS 12

Adrian Spratt
 

I began that last message incorrectly. I meant to say that Joni won't need
to re-authorize even after JAWS 15, for the reasons I explain.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Trouble authorizing JAWS 12

And JAWS 17, 18 and beyond, unless FS adopts something other than ILM. Ever
since FS resorted to this authorization method, several SMAs ago, I haven't
had to obtain new authorizations or re-authorize except when making physical
updates to my system or when adding a new machine.

I wonder if the procedure is different in your country. I'm guessing you
obtain JAWS through a third party other than FS. If so, that would be
unfortunate.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:39 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Trouble authorizing JAWS 12

Ok, that's great! You will not have to re-authorize until JAWS 16!

Best regards,

Adi.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Trouble authorizing JAWS 12

Regarding the issue being discussed about re-authorizing and SMA's, I am
covered now through JAWS 15.

I will probably be back with some questions while trying to learn JAWS 12. I
am happy with its performance so far, but I know there are a lot of changes
I will have to get used to.

Joni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble authorizing JAWS 12

Joni, My advice is to always use the www.fsactivate.com site for any new
activations. Never had a problem with it. And now that you've done an ILM
you shouldn't need to use the CD again, since your 20-digit code is
incorporated into your operating system.

Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco
Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joni Colver" <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:06
Subject: Re: Trouble authorizing JAWS 12

I just talked to tech support and they resolved the issue. I have JAWS 5 on
my computer. I did download JAWS 12 from the Internet.

They had me go to the fs activate website to do the authorization and it
worked out fine. She did not say why I could not do it the typical way.
Maybe it will work for me when I get 13.

Joni