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Re: JAWS 13 and Captcha
Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
if you want to solve most capchas independently, the best way is still the Webvisum add-on for Firefox. Yes it works with Firefox 6.
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Chris
At 02:44 AM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Tom,
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Re: Enhancements in JAWS 13
Dave...
Chris,
I'm just being a brat, that's all. It drives me crazy to hear the mindless repetition as I go through the list, and I'm just being snarkey that they can't be more creative, or simply say: The following items in Excel were resolved: one two three etc. Now wouldn't that be a lot easier for them to do, as well? I'm tired now and am going to sleep, don't wake me up again. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 23:26 Subject: Re: Enhancements in JAWS 13 Resolved and Addressed mean the same thing in this context. I'm surprised you're wondering this, Dave. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: jaws 13 and quicken
Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...>
What version of Quicken is it? Sadly I don't think it's supported in the UK any more.
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From: George B Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:20 AM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: jaws 13 and quicken just to let you all know i tried the jaws 13 and the o c r feature with quicken 2010, and when i do the command for it to o c r a window it did it and would read things i had no idea that were on my regester, i.e. twords the bottom of the window there is a line that says i downloaded zero, and without the o c r i had no idea it was there eather in p c curser or jaws cursor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110914/e8233df2/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: JAWS 13 and Captcha
Dave...
Tom,
No, don't depend on it. Listed to the podcast and you'll understand why even Eric Damrey is skeptical on how well it might work. Even humans have trouble reading the characters, so OCR will most likely fail. After all, the whole point of captcha is to defeat on-screen OCR. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@gmail.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 21:47 Subject: JAWS 13 and Captcha Hi, Just heard about JAWS 13 and its OCR feature. Can that be used to solve captchas? Just curious. Looking forward to checking out 13 but I don't know if I want to mess around with the beta just yet. Tom _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Beta 13
Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...>
If using Windows 7 and/or Vista you'll possibly notice a slower start up time initially as Windows 7 learns what you use the most and loads that first. So if you install a newer version of jaws it may be that windows doesn't see it as the same programme as before. Over a few days that should improve.
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From: Holger Fiallo Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:05 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list Subject: Beta 13 For those who are using beta 13, Do you noticed that jaws takes longer to start after you restart your PC? I noticed this with my PC. It does not happen with JFW 12. Holger Fiallo Kind Regard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110914/922270be/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Fiallo.vcf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 75 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110914/922270be/attachment.obj> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Enhancements in JAWS 13
Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
Resolved and Addressed mean the same thing in this context. I'm surprised you're wondering this, Dave.
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Re: annoying voice with OCR feature
Terra Syslo <tlsyslo@...>
Thank you. I was going into the voice settings in the main menu of JFW.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Roy Nickelson Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: annoying voice with OCR feature from the JAWS 13 public beta page http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-public-beta.asp Customizing the OCR Voice To customize the voice you hear when reading recognized text, do the following: 1.Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center. When Settings Center opens, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to open Default. 2.In the tree view, navigate to and expand Voice Aliases, then select Customize Voice Aliases. 3.Press F6 to move to the Voice Aliases page, and choose the Voice Aliases button to open the dialog box. 4.Select OCRVoice from the list of voice aliasses and choose the Modify button to customize the settings for this alias. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: annoying voice with OCR feature Whenever I try to use the OCR feature in the JFW 13 beta, when the JAWS cursor is activated it speaks in this voice that is really hard to understand. I have gone in and looked at all my voice profiles and all are set to use Reed as the default. Any way I can fix this, and does anyone have any tips on making good use of the OCR feature? Was hoping the beta had fixed the problem I was having with flash content as well, but that hasn't happened as of yet either. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 14/83398967/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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JAWS 13 and Captcha
Tom Lange
Hi,
Just heard about JAWS 13 and its OCR feature. Can that be used to solve captchas? Just curious. Looking forward to checking out 13 but I don't know if I want to mess around with the beta just yet. Tom
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Re: [Bulk] Strange problem with Jaws and Microsoft Word
Dave...
Here you go, Tom.
Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 15:20 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Strange problem with Jaws and Microsoft Word Tom, Depending on your version of Word, there are different ways to get at this. But somewhere in options there are checkboxes to control what characters Word will display, and I think a blank is one of them. Also there may be a setting in the text page of the Settings Center to handle this, or perhaps in the Key Labels page, where you can mute or unmute the speaking of a spacebar press. A few areas to browse around in. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630.----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 15:08 Subject: Strange problem with Jaws and Microsoft Word Hi, all. I have just noticed a strange problem when using Jaws with my work computer when in Microsoft Word. When I am editing a document, all of the other characters speak except for the space. In other words, when I hit the space bar, nothing happens. It used to be that Jaws would say "blank", to indicate the existence of a blank space. I have never seen this happen before, and can't imagine why Jaws will not speak this character. Does anyone have suggestions for correcting this? Just for the record, I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows XP and office 2007 at work. Thanks! Tom from Michigan _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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JAWS 13 with RhapsodyBlind and BlindTunes
John Martyn
Hi all,
I have just tested on the windows 7 and XP platforms with JAWS 13. I must say, it works very well with windows 7 and I am posting this to both lists. I didn't notice anything wrong and all functions within the scripts worked well. However, with windows XP, JAWS 13 is a nightmare and ruins RhapsodyBlind quite a bit. Things do work with rhapsody, but information that was spoken before is missing and there isn't anything I can do to correct this. Blind Tunes faired much better with only the column sorting was messed up big time. All other function seemed to work until I got to the iTunes Store. It was a struggle to get pages to load without much delay and stalled on all searches. I noticed that JAWS 13 completely slowed down the startup time in XP. The only way to fix the script issues was to completely uninstall everything Freedom scientific and reload my old JAWS versions. Just switching to another JAWS version wasn't enough, it was the common components that were the issue from the results. I would have left JAWS 13 but it messed up even testing with the other versions. I must state again, it works fine on windows 7 so don't be wary unless you have XP. I am relieved that it works fine on windows 7, but I'm afraid XP and JAWS 13 do not get along. Perhaps FS will fix some issues, but I will never test out JAWS 13 on XP again. It's time to move forward anyway. So, for all those playing beta games, beware the XP issues running the scripts as I have no way to fix it. Thanks for reading and for those who aren't familiar with the Rhapsody and iTunes scripts please visit: www.RhapsodyBlind.com www.BlindTunes.net Regards, John Martyn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110914/178ec9a9/attachment.html>
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Re: Strange problem with Jaws and Microsoft Word
Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
That is the way I prefer it, hearing the space all the time when typing fast
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is more than annoying to me, However, you need to go into keyboard settings and keep hitting the letter s until you hear space and unmute it. Personally that is one of the first changes I always make in Jaws, right after I change the speed. It is one of the reasons I never bought Window Eyes to help see if it worked better on certain transcription platforms, I could not turn off the space. Keep in mind I type fast most of the time, however. Rose Combs rosecombs@Q.com
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:08 PM To: Jaws users e-mail list Subject: Strange problem with Jaws and Microsoft Word Hi, all. I have just noticed a strange problem when using Jaws with my work computer when in Microsoft Word. When I am editing a document, all of the other characters speak except for the space. In other words, when I hit the space bar, nothing happens. It used to be that Jaws would say "blank", to indicate the existence of a blank space. I have never seen this happen before, and can't imagine why Jaws will not speak this character. Does anyone have suggestions for correcting this? Just for the record, I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows XP and office 2007 at work. Thanks! Tom from Michigan _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Beta 13
Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
I noticed that but figured it was because it was a new install, may be
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better next time. Rose Combs rosecombs@Q.com
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:05 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list Subject: Beta 13 For those who are using beta 13, Do you noticed that jaws takes longer to start after you restart your PC? I noticed this with my PC. It does not happen with JFW 12. Holger Fiallo Kind Regard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 14/922270be/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Fiallo.vcf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 75 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 14/922270be/attachment.obj> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: dictionary?
Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
One of the best dictionary sites I have used is Onelook.com. It is a great
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place for a medical transcriptionist. Rose Combs rosecombs@Q.com
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:00 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: dictionary? Daniel: If you play with it for a while and realize how it formats things, www.dictionary.com isn't bad. There is both a dictionary and a thesaurus. The dictionary is way better than the dictionary available with Research It. A few hints: 1. Use the JAWS bookmark feature to identify important links you will use frequently. 2. Remember that, despite the availability of the search box, skip it initially and hit either Dictionary or Thesaurus first. Then, fill in the word in the edit box. 3. The results you are looking for will be in a table, so hit "t" after you've run the search. 4. The search button is the first button after the edit box. It isn't labeled. Keep these in mind, and you'll do fine. It is a very powerful product (and it is free). There is just lots of clutter. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of daniel Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:16 PM To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: dictionary? Does anyone know if there are any dictionary programs accesable with jaws. I'll probably be needing one for my English class this year. \ Daniel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 7174 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201109 12/02f51122/attachment.bin> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ############################################################################ ################################# ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ############################################################################ ################################# This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you. ############################################################################ ################################# _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: research it in jaws 13
ken lawrence
Hi ken with a question won't do it of course until the jaws 13 is final but can I use the check for updates feature in 12 to get 13 if I'm only using a in demo mode or do I have to get the new version separately?
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From: Holger Fiallo Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 4:41 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: research it in jaws 13 Is firefox your default? If not make it and let jaws know about your issue so they can try to work on it. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:29 PM To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: research it in jaws 13 I've installed JAWS 13 today, and generally I think it's pretty good. However, using Research It to look things up on Wikipedia, when I click the "click this link" to see the full article, it is opened in Internet explorer. I wouldn't have a problem with this, except that my default browser is Firefox. In Jaws 12 the article would open in Firefox as I would expect. I don't like Internet Explorer, so why are Freedom Scientific forcing me to use it? Cheers Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110914/48789db1/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Unassisted windows 7 install
James Homuth
Thank you for reopening this thread after I've requested it be closed. Thank
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you for not sending your email off-list to the member who originated the thread, as you were instructed. Until you can learn to follow instructions, you can also sit on moderated status. James, List Admin
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles Sent: September 14, 2011 6:30 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install Well, actually, I am interested in creating an unassisted windows install, as quite truly, There may come a time whare I might need to reinstall it. Saying that this has nothing to do with jaws is not true. JAWS may not come preinstalled like VoiceOver, but that has little to do with JAWS users needing the help. Now, I used N Lite to create my answer file, and burned my copy of windows to a disc like you're supposed to. What is supposed to happen if the install worked, and what should I do after I insert the CD. Also, what about the boot file inside the original CD? Thanks, Darrell -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:18 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install Well, on the bright side, I don't need to explain to you why you've just made the moderated list. Thank you for playing. James, List Admin -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys Sent: September-13-11 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install James, This seems like a heavy-handed solution to a thread that was seeing valuable input from a lot of folks. Frankly, someone else said "Chill" and I have to agree with them. Ben At 05:40 PM 9/13/2011, you wrote: Your opinion is noted. This thread has been closed. If you want to _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: annoying voice with OCR feature
Roy Nickelson <roylee@...>
from the JAWS 13 public beta page
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From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: annoying voice with OCR feature Whenever I try to use the OCR feature in the JFW 13 beta, when the JAWS cursor is activated it speaks in this voice that is really hard to understand. I have gone in and looked at all my voice profiles and all are set to use Reed as the default. Any way I can fix this, and does anyone have any tips on making good use of the OCR feature? Was hoping the beta had fixed the problem I was having with flash content as well, but that hasn't happened as of yet either. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110914/83398967/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: jaws 13 and quicken
George B
i can do most the things i want to do but now i see with the o c r i am
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going to look at some other things like invoices and etc.
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Re: annoying voice with OCR feature
George B
yes you can change the voice, but off the top of my head i can not remember
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just how. if you listen to eric's podcast about it he tells you in there how to change the voice. i am sending a report to have them make the defalt for the o c r part different then the one they have it is really hard to understand. i think it should be a higher pitch not that low one they have.
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annoying voice with OCR feature
Terra Syslo <tlsyslo@...>
Whenever I try to use the OCR feature in the JFW 13 beta, when the JAWS
cursor is activated it speaks in this voice that is really hard to understand. I have gone in and looked at all my voice profiles and all are set to use Reed as the default. Any way I can fix this, and does anyone have any tips on making good use of the OCR feature? Was hoping the beta had fixed the problem I was having with flash content as well, but that hasn't happened as of yet either. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110914/83398967/attachment.html>
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Re: jaws 13 and quicken
John Martyn
Very interesting. How well are you able to use quicken with JAWS?
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From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 4:20 PM Subject: jaws 13 and quicken just to let you all know i tried the jaws 13 and the o c r feature with
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