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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Charles Coe
 

Hi,

I use Eset Nod32 Anti-virus.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:49 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many
line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one seemed
to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with
Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows 7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32 bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth and
I should just go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Brandon,

Did you have IE8 installed at any time on this computer before? If not,
you will need to Download IE8 but, don't install it. Follow the steps below
to remove IE9.

From: Flor Lynch

Do the following in Windows 7

1. Open the start menu and in the search edit box, type updates.
2. Wait a moment, then arrow down to "Show installed updates"
3. Press enter key and wait for the list to load up.
4. Now press the tab key till you come to another search box and in it
type the following;
Internet Explorer

5. After waiting a few moments, press the tab key till you come to a
results
list. IE9 will now be in the results.

6. Press the down arrow key once; then press the "application key" and
down
arrow to uninstall and then press the enter key.

7. Just follow the prompts from here on to remove the item.
Flor

After removing uninstalling IE9, you can now install IE8. Another thing,
set your updates so you can install them or, Widows7 will download & install
them, which will install IE9 again. The next time you see IE9 as an update,
hide it! Hope this helps. Take care & have a happy New Year.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many
line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one
seemed
to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with
Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the
driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key
to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick
thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could
choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the
list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's
present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I
hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows
7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on
large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the
CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have
set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean
by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32
bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My
computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was
waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating
system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make
sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding
the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are
what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not
professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth
and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

deadcatbounce <JAWS@...>
 

What I don't like is when there are a different number of line breaks depending on versions of JAWS. This is one reason why I'm still using V11--I'm comfortable with where they usually occur on the pages I frequent and an upgraded versions messes those up. Wish they would remain constant. Does anyone know why this occurs?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one seemed to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

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On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows 7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32 bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one seemed to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows 7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32 bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: JAWS and a tree view

Soronel Haetir
 

Well, given that, you may well be out of luck. Still, try the window
class reassign and you may get lucky. Beyond that I suppose you could
potentially do something with scripting, but that would be pretty
painful.

How many nodes are they talking about? I've had tree views with 100k
nodes or more and didn't really notice problems.

On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Here's what I heard back from the people at the Treepad company right after
I posted my question to the list.

Thank you for contacting TreePad support.

The difference regarding the tree pane between TreePad Lite and TreePad
Business Edition is that TreePad Lite uses the standard Windows tree control
(a dll inside the Windows directory), while TreePad Business Edition uses a
custom tree control (compiled into the program).

The standard windows tree control is a deliberately crippled and slowed down
thing - we cannot use it for more powerful programs such as TreePad Business
Edition and TreePad X Enterprise. It will become very slow when the number
of nodes increases above a certain point. The cause for this problem is that
Microsoft does not want competing software companies to have a good tree
control in their products, so they have crippled it.

This results in other companies, such as ourselves, needing to create their
own tree controls if more than a certain number of nodes are rquired. The
downside of this, is that reader programs such as JAWS, which expect the
standard windows tree control, are not prepared to read these custom tree
controls.
Perhaps the screen reader JAWS can be configured to read our custom tree
control - you might want to contact them regarding this issue. It is not an
issue of the JAWS reader, nor is it a TreePad issue. But perhaps JAWS can be
configured so that you can utilize our tree control (used in TPBiz as well
as the TPBiz manual).

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS and a tree view

First I would try the window class reassign, JAWS+F2, then "Window
class reassign" and go from there.

Is the business edition of the same version (1 or 2008 or whatever) as
the lite version? If not I could also see them having moved to less
accessible presentation technology. Unfortunately a great many of the
things MS has been pushing lately suffer greatly as far as
accessibility goes, despite the potential being present to do much
more.

On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,



I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a program.
I
have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition which is
a
more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad lite.
In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would see
in
Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or open
depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or closing the
object just like in explorer and the folder tree view. JAWS will also
announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is the lite version of
Treepad in the business version it doesn't say anything. Does anybody have
any ideas how two programs made by the same company would sound different
when I run them with JAWS 12. By the way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit.



Dondi

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Re: JAWS and a tree view

Dondi
 

Hi,

Here's what I heard back from the people at the Treepad company right after
I posted my question to the list.

Thank you for contacting TreePad support.

The difference regarding the tree pane between TreePad Lite and TreePad
Business Edition is that TreePad Lite uses the standard Windows tree control
(a dll inside the Windows directory), while TreePad Business Edition uses a
custom tree control (compiled into the program).

The standard windows tree control is a deliberately crippled and slowed down
thing - we cannot use it for more powerful programs such as TreePad Business
Edition and TreePad X Enterprise. It will become very slow when the number
of nodes increases above a certain point. The cause for this problem is that
Microsoft does not want competing software companies to have a good tree
control in their products, so they have crippled it.

This results in other companies, such as ourselves, needing to create their
own tree controls if more than a certain number of nodes are rquired. The
downside of this, is that reader programs such as JAWS, which expect the
standard windows tree control, are not prepared to read these custom tree
controls.
Perhaps the screen reader JAWS can be configured to read our custom tree
control - you might want to contact them regarding this issue. It is not an
issue of the JAWS reader, nor is it a TreePad issue. But perhaps JAWS can be
configured so that you can utilize our tree control (used in TPBiz as well
as the TPBiz manual).

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS and a tree view

First I would try the window class reassign, JAWS+F2, then "Window
class reassign" and go from there.

Is the business edition of the same version (1 or 2008 or whatever) as
the lite version? If not I could also see them having moved to less
accessible presentation technology. Unfortunately a great many of the
things MS has been pushing lately suffer greatly as far as
accessibility goes, despite the potential being present to do much
more.

On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,



I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a program.
I
have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition which is
a
more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad lite.
In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would see
in
Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or open
depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or closing the
object just like in explorer and the folder tree view. JAWS will also
announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is the lite version of
Treepad in the business version it doesn't say anything. Does anybody have
any ideas how two programs made by the same company would sound different
when I run them with JAWS 12. By the way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit.



Dondi

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Re: JAWS and a tree view

Soronel Haetir
 

First I would try the window class reassign, JAWS+F2, then "Window
class reassign" and go from there.

Is the business edition of the same version (1 or 2008 or whatever) as
the lite version? If not I could also see them having moved to less
accessible presentation technology. Unfortunately a great many of the
things MS has been pushing lately suffer greatly as far as
accessibility goes, despite the potential being present to do much
more.

On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,



I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a program. I
have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition which is a
more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad lite.
In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would see in
Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or open
depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or closing the
object just like in explorer and the folder tree view. JAWS will also
announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is the lite version of
Treepad in the business version it doesn't say anything. Does anybody have
any ideas how two programs made by the same company would sound different
when I run them with JAWS 12. By the way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit.



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JAWS and a tree view

Dondi
 

Hi Everyone,



I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a program. I
have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition which is a
more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad lite.
In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would see in
Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or open
depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or closing the
object just like in explorer and the folder tree view. JAWS will also
announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is the lite version of
Treepad in the business version it doesn't say anything. Does anybody have
any ideas how two programs made by the same company would sound different
when I run them with JAWS 12. By the way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit.



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Importing Jaws Settings

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

Can the Jaws settings / ENU folder, from a 32 Bit system be copied / pasted
into the ENU folder of the same Jaws version on a 64 Bit system? All help
will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much, take care, & have a happy New
Year.
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Re: software recommendations for CD ripping and copying

Dean Martineau <dean@...>
 

I don't doubt the quality of the paid programs like Nero, but this is a
software category where there is not, for most of us, any reason to pay. I
sent the link to the free cd and dvd-burning reviews to the list a few days
ago. I've used cd burner xp, which is a bit quirky to use but good, and
Burnaware Free, which is simple to use with JAWs in my opinion.

Dean

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On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: software recommendations for CD ripping and copying

For ripping, CDEX is free and accessible. Lots of people use Nero
Burning Rom. Winamp can rip as well as burn. So can iTunes.
Chris
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For ripping, CDEX is free and accessible. Lots of people use Nero Burning Rom. Winamp can rip as well as burn. So can iTunes.
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Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Rik,

Thank you very much for the update. Your experience was probably what
happened with my Widows7 32 bit system. My speech would cut off abruptly
with a SoundBlaster Audigy & SoundBlaster X-Fi USB soundcards. Jaws
returned to speaking normally when I started using the RealTek soundcard
that came integrated into the motherboard. Anyway, thanks again, & have a
happy New Year.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: rixmix2009@gmail.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon


Some of you may recall my post a couple weeks back.
I had the speech clipping off very abruptly. Where single characters were
rendered unrecognizable, and the ends of words cut off.
Our theory on the list was that it had something to do with the
Soundblaster
X-Fi Xtreme audio card.

I just got through with a tandem session with Freedom Scientific. And I am
very pleased to report that they helped to resolve the issue!

Turned out that what was needed was to disable the 3-D enhancements on the
card. Once that was done, the clipping problem ceased entirely.
They did disable a lot of things at first, and ultimately only leaving
this
feature disabled, the problem stayed good and gone.
So, hooray! Now, I can get to using this new pc.
Hopefully, this news may help anyone else who has the issue.


Best,
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Barbara
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:28 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon

Hi Rick,

I have the same problem on a Widows7 32 Bit system. I have tried 3
different sound cards, changed display settings, & kicked it a couple of
times just because, & I still have the same problem! LOL LOL On the
other
hand my Widows7 64 Bit system works just fine, go figure.

For everyone on the list, have a very merry Christmas and the Happiest of
New Years!
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: rixmix2009@gmail.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon


Chris,
Good suggestion.

In fact, this was what I was thinking, too.
Because this new pc does have 2 sound cards.
When I went through the customize ordering of the Dell, I selected this
one.
It is a Sound blaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, and it is installed in an
expansion slot.

This behavior I described has been there right from the beginning. I
thought
I would look in the JAWS utilities under sound cards. And sure enough
the
setting had the checkbox on Windows default. The Soundblaster was listed
there. So I hit enter on that, and now it is checked. Sadly, however, my
problem remains.

Might I need to reinstall JAWS or something?
I should add, that the reading is fine until the end of any string of
text
when it cuts off too early.
Even in reading menus or whatever it is not finishing the word.

Thanks.
Rik


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon

Rik, do you have another soundcard or audio device you can try
putting Jaws Through on that machine? If so, go to Jaws, U for
Utilities, O for Sound Cards, and you can specify a different sound
device for Jaws there.

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Re: software recommendations for CD ripping and copying

Soronel Haetir
 

I have been very happy with ultra iso for years now.
http://www.ezbsystems.com/enindex.html

On 12/29/11, rixmix2009@gmail.com <rixmix2009@gmail.com> wrote:
Can I ask on this list, are there favorite software applications that JAWS
users favor that work well?
Or a place that reviews and tells the ups and downs of each?

My pc came with Roxio pre-installed, but it seems to just freeze up a lot
and besides that, nothing much talks, having to find buttons with jaws
cursor.
I have a 2nd pc that is new. It came with a Nero starter program, but
nothing is really even on it to use unless I upgrade and purchase the serial
numbers.
And I would really like to hear what folks are saying.

I like to be able to make duplicate copies.
On my old pc there was a program called Sonic Record Now.
But if the newer versions of this are still good for speech, I'd be
interested to know.

I like to do ripping and insert text in to the various meta data fields.
Windows Media Player 10 was cool for that. But 10 and 11 seem to require
that I get sighted help to even find the fields, that is if I can even find
them.
It still seems to be the best for grabbing meta data from the internet on a
music CD.

I hope to find a good software for audio editing as well. But I don't know
if there is one application that does it all, and works with a screen
reading software.

I think if anyone knows where to just go and read accessibility ratings on
various shelf top software, this would be a good thing to know about, too.

Thanks.
Richard


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Re: software recommendations for CD ripping and copying

deadcatbounce <JAWS@...>
 

I like Nero and think it's worth the money.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:17 PM
Subject: software recommendations for CD ripping and copying


Can I ask on this list, are there favorite software applications that JAWS users favor that work well?
Or a place that reviews and tells the ups and downs of each?

My pc came with Roxio pre-installed, but it seems to just freeze up a lot and besides that, nothing much talks, having to find buttons with jaws cursor.
I have a 2nd pc that is new. It came with a Nero starter program, but nothing is really even on it to use unless I upgrade and purchase the serial numbers.
And I would really like to hear what folks are saying.

I like to be able to make duplicate copies.
On my old pc there was a program called Sonic Record Now.
But if the newer versions of this are still good for speech, I'd be interested to know.

I like to do ripping and insert text in to the various meta data fields.
Windows Media Player 10 was cool for that. But 10 and 11 seem to require that I get sighted help to even find the fields, that is if I can even find them.
It still seems to be the best for grabbing meta data from the internet on a music CD.

I hope to find a good software for audio editing as well. But I don't know if there is one application that does it all, and works with a screen reading software.

I think if anyone knows where to just go and read accessibility ratings on various shelf top software, this would be a good thing to know about, too.

Thanks.
Richard


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software recommendations for CD ripping and copying

rixmix2009@...
 

Can I ask on this list, are there favorite software applications that JAWS users favor that work well?
Or a place that reviews and tells the ups and downs of each?

My pc came with Roxio pre-installed, but it seems to just freeze up a lot and besides that, nothing much talks, having to find buttons with jaws cursor.
I have a 2nd pc that is new. It came with a Nero starter program, but nothing is really even on it to use unless I upgrade and purchase the serial numbers.
And I would really like to hear what folks are saying.

I like to be able to make duplicate copies.
On my old pc there was a program called Sonic Record Now.
But if the newer versions of this are still good for speech, I'd be interested to know.

I like to do ripping and insert text in to the various meta data fields.
Windows Media Player 10 was cool for that. But 10 and 11 seem to require that I get sighted help to even find the fields, that is if I can even find them.
It still seems to be the best for grabbing meta data from the internet on a music CD.

I hope to find a good software for audio editing as well. But I don't know if there is one application that does it all, and works with a screen reading software.

I think if anyone knows where to just go and read accessibility ratings on various shelf top software, this would be a good thing to know about, too.

Thanks.
Richard


Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

John ESherrer
 

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows 7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32 bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon

rixmix2009@...
 

Some of you may recall my post a couple weeks back.
I had the speech clipping off very abruptly. Where single characters were rendered unrecognizable, and the ends of words cut off.
Our theory on the list was that it had something to do with the Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card.

I just got through with a tandem session with Freedom Scientific. And I am very pleased to report that they helped to resolve the issue!

Turned out that what was needed was to disable the 3-D enhancements on the card. Once that was done, the clipping problem ceased entirely.
They did disable a lot of things at first, and ultimately only leaving this feature disabled, the problem stayed good and gone.
So, hooray! Now, I can get to using this new pc.
Hopefully, this news may help anyone else who has the issue.


Best,
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Barbara
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:28 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon

Hi Rick,

I have the same problem on a Widows7 32 Bit system. I have tried 3
different sound cards, changed display settings, & kicked it a couple of
times just because, & I still have the same problem! LOL LOL On the other
hand my Widows7 64 Bit system works just fine, go figure.

For everyone on the list, have a very merry Christmas and the Happiest of
New Years!
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: rixmix2009@gmail.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon


Chris,
Good suggestion.

In fact, this was what I was thinking, too.
Because this new pc does have 2 sound cards.
When I went through the customize ordering of the Dell, I selected this
one.
It is a Sound blaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, and it is installed in an
expansion slot.

This behavior I described has been there right from the beginning. I
thought
I would look in the JAWS utilities under sound cards. And sure enough the
setting had the checkbox on Windows default. The Soundblaster was listed
there. So I hit enter on that, and now it is checked. Sadly, however, my
problem remains.

Might I need to reinstall JAWS or something?
I should add, that the reading is fine until the end of any string of text
when it cuts off too early.
Even in reading menus or whatever it is not finishing the word.

Thanks.
Rik


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon

Rik, do you have another soundcard or audio device you can try
putting Jaws Through on that machine? If so, go to Jaws, U for
Utilities, O for Sound Cards, and you can specify a different sound
device for Jaws there.

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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7Computer?--mobility center

Dave...
 

Ann,

Yes, JAWS reads it just fine. There are settings for screen brightness,
presentation mode, additional display, wireless on/off, power settings, sync
settings, audio settings. Nothing to do with the word media or keyboard.

I infer that the mobility center relates to overall power consumption of the
laptop and how it can be connected to external displays.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 08:03
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows
7Computer?--mobility center


Can you use the mobility center with JAWS? On the lap top does it
show the choice for media or whatever the other thing is???


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Re: Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7Computer?--mobility center

Ann Byrne
 

Can you use the mobility center with JAWS? On the lap top does it show the choice for media or whatever the other thing is???


Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7Computer?

Dave...
 

Yes, on my laptop Windows+X does launch the Windows Mobility Center. So it
appears that hardware and drivers have an effect on what we each experience
with our respective machines.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 07:54
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows
7Computer?


You know the weird thing? I have a list of windows hot keys that
states Windows key + x goes to the mobility Center. It
doesn't. When I went there on my lap top JAWS didn't read it well at
all. On the desk top I don't have the media/function key options.
At 09:35 AM 12/29/2011, you wrote:
Ann,

I took a look with my Windows 7 32-bit on a Dell E6540 laptop, and there
are
no settings for the keyboard. In fact I have both Windows Mobile Center and
a Windows Mobility Center dialogs, but neither of which has any choices for
keyboard. I suspect that this is something unique to your hardware or
installed keyboard drivers.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 06:56
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7
Computer?


The mobile center choices maybe don't say 'function keys'. There is
a choice between multi-media, which was the default on my lap top,
and something else. the something else was the right choice.

Good luck!
At 10:52 PM 12/28/2011, you wrote:
Hello,
In my HP Windows mobility center it doesn't have that option.
I've googled turning off performance of the function keys on an HP
windows 7 Laptop, but no one seems to have the problem of needing
F10 to get to the menu bar or having F11 to get to full screen. I
couldn't find anything.
My alt button doesn't work and Google doesn't display a search or
I'm feeling Lucky button or I'd be fine.
Is this just a problem with HP computers?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

this is from the windows 7 list some time ago. It works.

From: "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola@gmail.com>
To: <blindwindows7@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [blindwindows7] Function keys
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:02 PM

Ah, this happened to me with my new laptop. Go into the control pane
and look for something called windows mobility center. That's where
I was able to change the performance of the function keys. It was
set on multi media and I changed it to standard.

sherry


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