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Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to worry about an information technology department's oppressive security settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort. You will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on his laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a laptop to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past 15 years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of your head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that step of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen. For this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option is checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like the default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands. I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case, shift plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should open up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box. There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon messed up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list of choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names, Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when you type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or "show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR
RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
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This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named
recipient(s) above and may contain information
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Re: Unabel to Change or Select Options On Google Search Settings Page

L Fairman <lfairman@...>
 

I use Startingpage.com for the same reason -- so as not to be watched by my
search engine!

LuRetta

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Unabel to Change or Select Options On Google Search Settings
Page

I mentioned this a week or so ago, but got no response. I've switched to
scroogle.org. It gives the same search results without tracking and saving
your searches. So if you like not being watched by your search engine, give
them a try. They're supported by user donations.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:28 AM
Subject: Unabel to Change or Select Options On Google Search Settings Page



Hi list. Using JAWS 9 and IE 8, I am somehow no longer able to change
or select any options on the Google search settings page under options
on the Google home page. For example, under the heading Google
Instant Predictions, the words On and Off are displayed, but there is
apparently no way to select either of these options. Under the
Results Per Page heading, the numbers 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 100 are
shown, but there is no way to select the option you want. And when I
hit Space or Enter on the Save Preferences button, nothing happens. I
have cookies enabled, so that's not the issue. JAWS announces that there
are no check boxes or
radio boxes on the page. I never had problems with the Google Search
Settings page before. Previously, the settings could be changed by
selecting the appropriate check box or radio box, but JAWS either no
longer recognizes these boxes on the Search Settings page, or they
have otherwise been eliminated. Did Google change the Search Settings
page so that it is no longer JAWS accessible? Or am I missing
something? Can someone explain what the heck is going on with the
Google Search Settings page? Thanks for any help.

Gerald

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Re: JAWS and a tree view

Dondi
 

Hi,

Thanks for the help. I talked to Freedom Scientific this morning and we did
the window class reassign and it didn't work. I gave up and went back to the
lite version that worked well with JAWS. Apparently the reason the people
that created Treepad had to go to their own version of a tree control is the
number of folders you can have in the business version. I don't know what
the exact number of folders you can have but the lite version can have 20
thousand folders and the business version can have a lot bore then this.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 5:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS and a tree view

Well, given that, you may well be out of luck. Still, try the window class
reassign and you may get lucky. Beyond that I suppose you could potentially
do something with scripting, but that would be pretty painful.

How many nodes are they talking about? I've had tree views with 100k nodes
or more and didn't really notice problems.


On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Here's what I heard back from the people at the Treepad company right
after I posted my question to the list.

Thank you for contacting TreePad support.

The difference regarding the tree pane between TreePad Lite and
TreePad Business Edition is that TreePad Lite uses the standard
Windows tree control (a dll inside the Windows directory), while
TreePad Business Edition uses a custom tree control (compiled into the
program).

The standard windows tree control is a deliberately crippled and
slowed down thing - we cannot use it for more powerful programs such
as TreePad Business Edition and TreePad X Enterprise. It will become
very slow when the number of nodes increases above a certain point.
The cause for this problem is that Microsoft does not want competing
software companies to have a good tree control in their products, so they
have crippled it.

This results in other companies, such as ourselves, needing to create
their own tree controls if more than a certain number of nodes are
rquired. The downside of this, is that reader programs such as JAWS,
which expect the standard windows tree control, are not prepared to
read these custom tree controls.
Perhaps the screen reader JAWS can be configured to read our custom
tree control - you might want to contact them regarding this issue. It
is not an issue of the JAWS reader, nor is it a TreePad issue. But
perhaps JAWS can be configured so that you can utilize our tree
control (used in TPBiz as well as the TPBiz manual).

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS and a tree view

First I would try the window class reassign, JAWS+F2, then "Window
class reassign" and go from there.

Is the business edition of the same version (1 or 2008 or whatever) as
the lite version? If not I could also see them having moved to less
accessible presentation technology. Unfortunately a great many of the
things MS has been pushing lately suffer greatly as far as
accessibility goes, despite the potential being present to do much
more.

On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,



I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a
program.
I
have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition
which is
a
more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad
lite.
In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would
see
in
Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or
open depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or
closing the object just like in explorer and the folder tree view.
JAWS will also announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is
the lite version of Treepad in the business version it doesn't say
anything. Does anybody have any ideas how two programs made by the
same company would sound different when I run them with JAWS 12. By the
way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit.



Dondi

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Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

jeff worthington <jjwcristiano040106@...>
 

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR
RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE
IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES
UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
#############################################################################################################
This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named
recipient(s) above and may contain information
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Re: Netbook computers

chris hallsworth <christopherh40@...>
 

I have an Asus EEE PC 1005 HA runnning Windows 7 Home Premium, upgraded from Starter, and the keyboard is about the size of a laptop keyboard layout except the home, end, page up and page down keys are simulated with FN plus the left, right, up or down arrow keys respectively.


Christopher H

On 30/12/2011 20:01, deadcatbounce wrote:
Thinking of getting a netbook and was wondering if there were models that are easier to use with JAWS than others. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Microsoft Security Essentials beta

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

Does anyone knows where to get the beta version for Microsoft Security? I would like to check it out with jaws 13. Essentials

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
No never had IE 8 installed.
I tried installing IE 8 and it said "This version of Internet Explorer is not compatible with this computer".
Is that because IE9 was not installed?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Barbara
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Brandon,

Did you have IE8 installed at any time on this computer before? If not,
you will need to Download IE8 but, don't install it. Follow the steps below
to remove IE9.

From: Flor Lynch

Do the following in Windows 7

1. Open the start menu and in the search edit box, type updates.
2. Wait a moment, then arrow down to "Show installed updates"
3. Press enter key and wait for the list to load up.
4. Now press the tab key till you come to another search box and in it
type the following;
Internet Explorer

5. After waiting a few moments, press the tab key till you come to a
results
list. IE9 will now be in the results.

6. Press the down arrow key once; then press the "application key" and
down
arrow to uninstall and then press the enter key.

7. Just follow the prompts from here on to remove the item.
Flor

After removing uninstalling IE9, you can now install IE8. Another thing,
set your updates so you can install them or, Widows7 will download & install
them, which will install IE9 again. The next time you see IE9 as an update,
hide it! Hope this helps. Take care & have a happy New Year.
Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many
line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one
seemed
to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with
Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the
driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key
to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick
thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could
choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the
list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's
present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I
hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows
7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on
large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the
CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have
set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean
by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32
bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My
computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was
waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating
system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make
sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding
the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are
what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not
professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth
and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Thinking of getting a netbook and was wondering if there were models that are easier to use with JAWS than others. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Charles Coe
 

Hi,

I use Eset Nod32 Anti-virus.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:49 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many
line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one seemed
to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with
Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows 7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32 bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth and
I should just go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Brandon,

Did you have IE8 installed at any time on this computer before? If not,
you will need to Download IE8 but, don't install it. Follow the steps below
to remove IE9.

From: Flor Lynch

Do the following in Windows 7

1. Open the start menu and in the search edit box, type updates.
2. Wait a moment, then arrow down to "Show installed updates"
3. Press enter key and wait for the list to load up.
4. Now press the tab key till you come to another search box and in it
type the following;
Internet Explorer

5. After waiting a few moments, press the tab key till you come to a
results
list. IE9 will now be in the results.

6. Press the down arrow key once; then press the "application key" and
down
arrow to uninstall and then press the enter key.

7. Just follow the prompts from here on to remove the item.
Flor

After removing uninstalling IE9, you can now install IE8. Another thing,
set your updates so you can install them or, Widows7 will download & install
them, which will install IE9 again. The next time you see IE9 as an update,
hide it! Hope this helps. Take care & have a happy New Year.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many
line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one
seemed
to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with
Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the
driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key
to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick
thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could
choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the
list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's
present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I
hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows
7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on
large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the
CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have
set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean
by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32
bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My
computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was
waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating
system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make
sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding
the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are
what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not
professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth
and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

deadcatbounce <JAWS@...>
 

What I don't like is when there are a different number of line breaks depending on versions of JAWS. This is one reason why I'm still using V11--I'm comfortable with where they usually occur on the pages I frequent and an upgraded versions messes those up. Wish they would remain constant. Does anyone know why this occurs?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one seemed to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows 7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32 bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one seemed to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows 7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32 bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: JAWS and a tree view

Soronel Haetir
 

Well, given that, you may well be out of luck. Still, try the window
class reassign and you may get lucky. Beyond that I suppose you could
potentially do something with scripting, but that would be pretty
painful.

How many nodes are they talking about? I've had tree views with 100k
nodes or more and didn't really notice problems.

On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Here's what I heard back from the people at the Treepad company right after
I posted my question to the list.

Thank you for contacting TreePad support.

The difference regarding the tree pane between TreePad Lite and TreePad
Business Edition is that TreePad Lite uses the standard Windows tree control
(a dll inside the Windows directory), while TreePad Business Edition uses a
custom tree control (compiled into the program).

The standard windows tree control is a deliberately crippled and slowed down
thing - we cannot use it for more powerful programs such as TreePad Business
Edition and TreePad X Enterprise. It will become very slow when the number
of nodes increases above a certain point. The cause for this problem is that
Microsoft does not want competing software companies to have a good tree
control in their products, so they have crippled it.

This results in other companies, such as ourselves, needing to create their
own tree controls if more than a certain number of nodes are rquired. The
downside of this, is that reader programs such as JAWS, which expect the
standard windows tree control, are not prepared to read these custom tree
controls.
Perhaps the screen reader JAWS can be configured to read our custom tree
control - you might want to contact them regarding this issue. It is not an
issue of the JAWS reader, nor is it a TreePad issue. But perhaps JAWS can be
configured so that you can utilize our tree control (used in TPBiz as well
as the TPBiz manual).

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS and a tree view

First I would try the window class reassign, JAWS+F2, then "Window
class reassign" and go from there.

Is the business edition of the same version (1 or 2008 or whatever) as
the lite version? If not I could also see them having moved to less
accessible presentation technology. Unfortunately a great many of the
things MS has been pushing lately suffer greatly as far as
accessibility goes, despite the potential being present to do much
more.

On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,



I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a program.
I
have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition which is
a
more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad lite.
In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would see
in
Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or open
depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or closing the
object just like in explorer and the folder tree view. JAWS will also
announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is the lite version of
Treepad in the business version it doesn't say anything. Does anybody have
any ideas how two programs made by the same company would sound different
when I run them with JAWS 12. By the way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit.



Dondi

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Re: JAWS and a tree view

Dondi
 

Hi,

Here's what I heard back from the people at the Treepad company right after
I posted my question to the list.

Thank you for contacting TreePad support.

The difference regarding the tree pane between TreePad Lite and TreePad
Business Edition is that TreePad Lite uses the standard Windows tree control
(a dll inside the Windows directory), while TreePad Business Edition uses a
custom tree control (compiled into the program).

The standard windows tree control is a deliberately crippled and slowed down
thing - we cannot use it for more powerful programs such as TreePad Business
Edition and TreePad X Enterprise. It will become very slow when the number
of nodes increases above a certain point. The cause for this problem is that
Microsoft does not want competing software companies to have a good tree
control in their products, so they have crippled it.

This results in other companies, such as ourselves, needing to create their
own tree controls if more than a certain number of nodes are rquired. The
downside of this, is that reader programs such as JAWS, which expect the
standard windows tree control, are not prepared to read these custom tree
controls.
Perhaps the screen reader JAWS can be configured to read our custom tree
control - you might want to contact them regarding this issue. It is not an
issue of the JAWS reader, nor is it a TreePad issue. But perhaps JAWS can be
configured so that you can utilize our tree control (used in TPBiz as well
as the TPBiz manual).

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS and a tree view

First I would try the window class reassign, JAWS+F2, then "Window
class reassign" and go from there.

Is the business edition of the same version (1 or 2008 or whatever) as
the lite version? If not I could also see them having moved to less
accessible presentation technology. Unfortunately a great many of the
things MS has been pushing lately suffer greatly as far as
accessibility goes, despite the potential being present to do much
more.

On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,



I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a program.
I
have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition which is
a
more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad lite.
In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would see
in
Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or open
depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or closing the
object just like in explorer and the folder tree view. JAWS will also
announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is the lite version of
Treepad in the business version it doesn't say anything. Does anybody have
any ideas how two programs made by the same company would sound different
when I run them with JAWS 12. By the way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit.



Dondi

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Re: JAWS and a tree view

Soronel Haetir
 

First I would try the window class reassign, JAWS+F2, then "Window
class reassign" and go from there.

Is the business edition of the same version (1 or 2008 or whatever) as
the lite version? If not I could also see them having moved to less
accessible presentation technology. Unfortunately a great many of the
things MS has been pushing lately suffer greatly as far as
accessibility goes, despite the potential being present to do much
more.

On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,



I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a program. I
have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition which is a
more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad lite.
In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would see in
Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or open
depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or closing the
object just like in explorer and the folder tree view. JAWS will also
announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is the lite version of
Treepad in the business version it doesn't say anything. Does anybody have
any ideas how two programs made by the same company would sound different
when I run them with JAWS 12. By the way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit.



Dondi

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JAWS and a tree view

Dondi
 

Hi Everyone,



I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a program. I
have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition which is a
more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad lite.
In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would see in
Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or open
depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or closing the
object just like in explorer and the folder tree view. JAWS will also
announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is the lite version of
Treepad in the business version it doesn't say anything. Does anybody have
any ideas how two programs made by the same company would sound different
when I run them with JAWS 12. By the way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit.



Dondi

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Importing Jaws Settings

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

Can the Jaws settings / ENU folder, from a 32 Bit system be copied / pasted
into the ENU folder of the same Jaws version on a 64 Bit system? All help
will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much, take care, & have a happy New
Year.
Mike
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Re: software recommendations for CD ripping and copying

Dean Martineau <dean@...>
 

I don't doubt the quality of the paid programs like Nero, but this is a
software category where there is not, for most of us, any reason to pay. I
sent the link to the free cd and dvd-burning reviews to the list a few days
ago. I've used cd burner xp, which is a bit quirky to use but good, and
Burnaware Free, which is simple to use with JAWs in my opinion.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: software recommendations for CD ripping and copying

For ripping, CDEX is free and accessible. Lots of people use Nero
Burning Rom. Winamp can rip as well as burn. So can iTunes.
Chris
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Re: software recommendations for CD ripping and copying

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

For ripping, CDEX is free and accessible. Lots of people use Nero Burning Rom. Winamp can rip as well as burn. So can iTunes.
Chris
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Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Rik,

Thank you very much for the update. Your experience was probably what
happened with my Widows7 32 bit system. My speech would cut off abruptly
with a SoundBlaster Audigy & SoundBlaster X-Fi USB soundcards. Jaws
returned to speaking normally when I started using the RealTek soundcard
that came integrated into the motherboard. Anyway, thanks again, & have a
happy New Year.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: rixmix2009@gmail.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon


Some of you may recall my post a couple weeks back.
I had the speech clipping off very abruptly. Where single characters were
rendered unrecognizable, and the ends of words cut off.
Our theory on the list was that it had something to do with the
Soundblaster
X-Fi Xtreme audio card.

I just got through with a tandem session with Freedom Scientific. And I am
very pleased to report that they helped to resolve the issue!

Turned out that what was needed was to disable the 3-D enhancements on the
card. Once that was done, the clipping problem ceased entirely.
They did disable a lot of things at first, and ultimately only leaving
this
feature disabled, the problem stayed good and gone.
So, hooray! Now, I can get to using this new pc.
Hopefully, this news may help anyone else who has the issue.


Best,
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Barbara
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:28 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon

Hi Rick,

I have the same problem on a Widows7 32 Bit system. I have tried 3
different sound cards, changed display settings, & kicked it a couple of
times just because, & I still have the same problem! LOL LOL On the
other
hand my Widows7 64 Bit system works just fine, go figure.

For everyone on the list, have a very merry Christmas and the Happiest of
New Years!
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: rixmix2009@gmail.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon


Chris,
Good suggestion.

In fact, this was what I was thinking, too.
Because this new pc does have 2 sound cards.
When I went through the customize ordering of the Dell, I selected this
one.
It is a Sound blaster X-Fi Xtreme audio card, and it is installed in an
expansion slot.

This behavior I described has been there right from the beginning. I
thought
I would look in the JAWS utilities under sound cards. And sure enough
the
setting had the checkbox on Windows default. The Soundblaster was listed
there. So I hit enter on that, and now it is checked. Sadly, however, my
problem remains.

Might I need to reinstall JAWS or something?
I should add, that the reading is fine until the end of any string of
text
when it cuts off too early.
Even in reading menus or whatever it is not finishing the word.

Thanks.
Rik


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 on a new pc, speech cutting off too soon

Rik, do you have another soundcard or audio device you can try
putting Jaws Through on that machine? If so, go to Jaws, U for
Utilities, O for Sound Cards, and you can specify a different sound
device for Jaws there.

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