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Windows Live Essentials 2011 and the best setup for JAWS

Anders Boholdt-Petersen
 

Hi,

Now I have downloaded Windows Live Essentials 2011 and installed Windows
Messenger and Windows mail.

What change do you recommend I make in Windows Messenger 2011 for the best
accessibility with JAWS, and what version of JAWS working best with Windows
Live Essentials 2011?

Can I still use Windows Live Messenger 2009 on Windows 7 64-bit?

Thanks for the answers.

Regards,
Anders


Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Dave...
 

Rik,

Are you aware that if you remember the key sequence for some of the Alt
letter commands, that most will continue to work with the ribbon? I use them
all the time, and it really speeds up my work.

For example in Word I often use the text to table creator. To get to the
dialog, I press and release: Alt a v x
Brings up the dialog like in the old days.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:42
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons


It is good to get to read a few posts about ribbons.
I have tried it with them and without them, and both ways have their up
sides and down sides, for me anyway.
Figuring out when to go down arrow or up arrow or to use the tab has been a
rather confusing thing. I have managed to learn how to get to a number of
my most used commands, but too often still a need to do something comes up,
where I know the old keyboard shortcut, but have no clue where to find it in
the ribbon array.

The Jaws training files do help, however. I have benefited from taking the
time to just sit and go through them Although my nature is not to be quite
so patient. I seem to use trial and error when using the ribbons.

I am only using ribbons currently with Windows Live Mail.

I installed the XP version of Wordpad and just gave it a new icon name on my
desktop.
This might be lazy. But it works for me. And it seems to work fine.

I installed my old Office 2003 suite, and it works okay, though there do
seem to be a few bugs or what not using it.
I am going to get the 2010 version soon. I will be checking this list to see
if you other JAWS 13 users have more comments and tips to share.

Meanwhile, I'm playing the Greatest Hits (and Misses) of good old Marty
Ribbons.
Sorry.

Thanks.
Rik



-----Original Message-----
From: Marks, Jim
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 1:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Yes, I want to use the standard ribbons, mostly because I've got the
keystrokes down for certain functions. For example, I often use the alt+h,
x, n keystrokes to save attachments within Outlook. When one uses the
virtual ribbon, those keystrokes no longer work. And I cannot seem to find
a way to make them work in the standard ribbon using Jaws 13, either.

Since we've talked last, I've been trying to use the virtual ribbons. They
do work nicely if a user is willing to give up the keystrokes.

Your suggestion to run a repair made a huge difference. Before the repair,
the behavior of the ribbons was the same regardless whether I had the
virtual ribbon turned on or off. Now I get the virtual ribbon, and it works
differently than how the standard ribbon functions with Jaws 13, just like
it is supposed to do. I still cannot use those time-saving keystrokes with
the Jaws 13 standard ribbon, though. I sure would like to be able to use
the keystrokes instead of hunting around in the ribbon, even the less
cluttered Jaws virtual ribbon.

Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Appreciate you sharing this with us. BTW am I correct in that you want to
Have the standard ribbons working, an *not* the JAWS Virtual Ribbon?

In my case, I never enabled the JAWS Virtual Ribbon feature and use the
Standard MS Office 2007 ribbons. I do this because I want to be able to use
the Quick Access Toolbar without interference.

Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marks, Jim" <jimmarks@mt.gov>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 07:32
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons


Thanks again, Dave.

The ribbon problem persists after the repair, but the control+r keystroke
now works. I'll contact Freedom Scientific to see why my ribbons are
behaving so differently from how they do using Jaws 12. If I learn
anything, I'll share with the list.

BTW, Jaws 13 seems much snappier than 12 on my Windows 7 32b computer.
However, this ribbon problem is a deal breaker for me. My tools should help
me do what I want and not stand in the way.

Best!


Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

JAWS 13 works very well (in fact better than JAWS 12) with Office 2007
Applications. Suggest you do a repair on JAWS 13.


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Re: how to send a message to JAWS (PostMessage)

Marco Steinebach <marco.steinebach@...>
 

Hi Dave,
What are you trying to do? I do not understand your need for header
documentation.
I wrote a media player and playlist generator called MaPlEr. If you
start the program, JAWS tells a lot of things while the music is
starting, so I want JAWS to stop talking when the program is started.
What I mean is prevent such messages like:
"MaPlEr - list view, selected abba - move on, track 1 of 59".
What I can do is just write a simple script, but if I do so, I have to
write an installer for all Versions of JAWS starting from lets say 6
to 13.
So, I try to find a way, telling the running JAWS to stop speech right
from my program, without a script.
That's what I'm looking for.
And, I hope, this could be done via the fsapi.dll or the jfwapi.dll.
Regards
Marco


Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Steinebach" <marco.steinebach@t-online.de>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 09:42
Subject: Re: how to send a message to JAWS (PostMessage)

Hello again,
After three hours of searching for any information about both, the
fsapi.dll and/or the jfwapi.dll, I could find definetely nothing.
Can anybody give me a header file, a documentation, or a peace of code
how to use them?
This would be very helpful!
Regards
Marco

Hello,
Thanks. That's what I was looking for!
Marco

Rather than a window message, use the FSApi.dll and the JFWStopSpeech
function. If you look around the FS website you should be able to
find at least a header for the jaws API, possibly an import library
too (though I believe it is recommended that you use run-time dynamic
linking - LoadLibrary/GetProcAddress).
On 12/1/11, Marco Steinebach <marco.steinebach@t-online.de> wrote:
Hello,
My question has todo with programming. Under Windows you can send
messages to an application, e.g. with the PostMessage command.
Can anybody tell me the messagenumber, wich stops the speech output,
as if I had pressed ctrl?
This would be very helpful.
Best Regards
Marco



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Focus 80 and Windows 7

Sharon Clark
 

Hello,



Does anyone know if the Focus 80 braille display is compatible with Windows
7?



Thank You,

Sharon



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Re: Itunes and jaws bug Can anyone help?

Kimber Gardner
 

I'm havinng the same problem but, sorry to say, have found no solution
so far other than moving to the previous Itunes page link and clicking
to get back to where I was.

Kimber

On 12/3/11, Conan Evanik <conanevanik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, I am using Jaws 13 and itunes 10.51. There seems to be a bug in
the itunes store! When I preview a song I hear it but am taken back to
the page with the list of albums and When I press enter to get back to
the one I want nothing happens. The JAWS cursor doesn't seem to work
either!

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Itunes and jaws bug Can anyone help?

Conan Evanik <conanevanik@...>
 

Hello, I am using Jaws 13 and itunes 10.51. There seems to be a bug in
the itunes store! When I preview a song I hear it but am taken back to
the page with the list of albums and When I press enter to get back to
the one I want nothing happens. The JAWS cursor doesn't seem to work
either!


Re: ResearchIt Redux

john.falter
 

Unfortunately, Nfl and Ncaa seem to be broken again.
Shame on Espn.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 2:46 PM
Subject: ResearchIt Redux


Hi, Am I the only one having no luck today with the NCAA Football scores and the NFL scheduled games for tomorrow?
Thanks, Mitch
You wouldn't have won if we'd beaten you.
~Yogi Berra~


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ResearchIt Redux

Dave Mitchell
 

Hi, Am I the only one having no luck today with the NCAA Football scores and the NFL scheduled games for tomorrow?
Thanks, Mitch
You wouldn't have won if we'd beaten you.
~Yogi Berra~


Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

rixmix2009@...
 

It is good to get to read a few posts about ribbons.
I have tried it with them and without them, and both ways have their up sides and down sides, for me anyway.
Figuring out when to go down arrow or up arrow or to use the tab has been a rather confusing thing. I have managed to learn how to get to a number of my most used commands, but too often still a need to do something comes up, where I know the old keyboard shortcut, but have no clue where to find it in the ribbon array.

The Jaws training files do help, however. I have benefited from taking the time to just sit and go through them Although my nature is not to be quite so patient. I seem to use trial and error when using the ribbons.

I am only using ribbons currently with Windows Live Mail.

I installed the XP version of Wordpad and just gave it a new icon name on my desktop.
This might be lazy. But it works for me. And it seems to work fine.

I installed my old Office 2003 suite, and it works okay, though there do seem to be a few bugs or what not using it.
I am going to get the 2010 version soon. I will be checking this list to see if you other JAWS 13 users have more comments and tips to share.

Meanwhile, I'm playing the Greatest Hits (and Misses) of good old Marty Ribbons.
Sorry.

Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Marks, Jim
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 1:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Yes, I want to use the standard ribbons, mostly because I've got the keystrokes down for certain functions. For example, I often use the alt+h, x, n keystrokes to save attachments within Outlook. When one uses the virtual ribbon, those keystrokes no longer work. And I cannot seem to find a way to make them work in the standard ribbon using Jaws 13, either.

Since we've talked last, I've been trying to use the virtual ribbons. They do work nicely if a user is willing to give up the keystrokes.

Your suggestion to run a repair made a huge difference. Before the repair, the behavior of the ribbons was the same regardless whether I had the virtual ribbon turned on or off. Now I get the virtual ribbon, and it works differently than how the standard ribbon functions with Jaws 13, just like it is supposed to do. I still cannot use those time-saving keystrokes with the Jaws 13 standard ribbon, though. I sure would like to be able to use the keystrokes instead of hunting around in the ribbon, even the less cluttered Jaws virtual ribbon.

Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Appreciate you sharing this with us. BTW am I correct in that you want to
Have the standard ribbons working, an *not* the JAWS Virtual Ribbon?

In my case, I never enabled the JAWS Virtual Ribbon feature and use the
Standard MS Office 2007 ribbons. I do this because I want to be able to use
the Quick Access Toolbar without interference.

Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marks, Jim" <jimmarks@mt.gov>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 07:32
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons


Thanks again, Dave.

The ribbon problem persists after the repair, but the control+r keystroke
now works. I'll contact Freedom Scientific to see why my ribbons are
behaving so differently from how they do using Jaws 12. If I learn
anything, I'll share with the list.

BTW, Jaws 13 seems much snappier than 12 on my Windows 7 32b computer.
However, this ribbon problem is a deal breaker for me. My tools should help
me do what I want and not stand in the way.

Best!


Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

JAWS 13 works very well (in fact better than JAWS 12) with Office 2007
Applications. Suggest you do a repair on JAWS 13.


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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Dave...
 

Rose,

Agree. I tried virtual for a while, but I'm a keystroke kind of guy and
having to slog through menus to open a dialog is not for me. If FS could
have made the menus first-letter navigation, then of course they would have
had the obvious perfect solution, but I guess it's technically beyond their
level of expertise.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@q.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 10:48
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons


I tried the virtual ribbons initially but turned them off again because I
could not figure out how to find a few things I needed every day that I knew
how to find on the ribbon. Might be a great feature for some, but in my
humble opinion for most of us we should just learn to use the ribbons.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Jim,

Appreciate you sharing this with us. BTW am I correct in that you want to
have the standard ribbons working, an *not* the JAWS Virtual Ribbon?

In my case, I never enabled the JAWS Virtual Ribbon feature and use the
standard MS Office 2007 ribbons. I do this because I want to be able to use
the Quick Access Toolbar without interference.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marks, Jim" <jimmarks@mt.gov>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 07:32
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons


Thanks again, Dave.

The ribbon problem persists after the repair, but the control+r keystroke
now works. I'll contact Freedom Scientific to see why my ribbons are
behaving so differently from how they do using Jaws 12. If I learn
anything, I'll share with the list.

BTW, Jaws 13 seems much snappier than 12 on my Windows 7 32b computer.
However, this ribbon problem is a deal breaker for me. My tools should help

me do what I want and not stand in the way.

Best!


Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

JAWS 13 works very well (in fact better than JAWS 12) with Office 2007
Applications. Suggest you do a repair on JAWS 13.


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Re: how to send a message to JAWS (PostMessage)

Dave...
 

Marco,

What are you trying to do? I do not understand your need for header
documentation.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Steinebach" <marco.steinebach@t-online.de>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 09:42
Subject: Re: how to send a message to JAWS (PostMessage)


Hello again,
After three hours of searching for any information about both, the
fsapi.dll and/or the jfwapi.dll, I could find definetely nothing.
Can anybody give me a header file, a documentation, or a peace of code
how to use them?
This would be very helpful!
Regards
Marco


Hello,
Thanks. That's what I was looking for!
Marco

Rather than a window message, use the FSApi.dll and the JFWStopSpeech
function. If you look around the FS website you should be able to
find at least a header for the jaws API, possibly an import library
too (though I believe it is recommended that you use run-time dynamic
linking - LoadLibrary/GetProcAddress).
On 12/1/11, Marco Steinebach <marco.steinebach@t-online.de> wrote:
Hello,
My question has todo with programming. Under Windows you can send
messages to an application, e.g. with the PostMessage command.
Can anybody tell me the messagenumber, wich stops the speech output,
as if I had pressed ctrl?
This would be very helpful.
Best Regards
Marco



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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
 

I tried the virtual ribbons initially but turned them off again because I
could not figure out how to find a few things I needed every day that I knew
how to find on the ribbon. Might be a great feature for some, but in my
humble opinion for most of us we should just learn to use the ribbons.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Jim,

Appreciate you sharing this with us. BTW am I correct in that you want to
have the standard ribbons working, an *not* the JAWS Virtual Ribbon?

In my case, I never enabled the JAWS Virtual Ribbon feature and use the
standard MS Office 2007 ribbons. I do this because I want to be able to use
the Quick Access Toolbar without interference.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marks, Jim" <jimmarks@mt.gov>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 07:32
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons


Thanks again, Dave.

The ribbon problem persists after the repair, but the control+r keystroke
now works. I'll contact Freedom Scientific to see why my ribbons are
behaving so differently from how they do using Jaws 12. If I learn
anything, I'll share with the list.

BTW, Jaws 13 seems much snappier than 12 on my Windows 7 32b computer.
However, this ribbon problem is a deal breaker for me. My tools should help

me do what I want and not stand in the way.

Best!


Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

JAWS 13 works very well (in fact better than JAWS 12) with Office 2007
Applications. Suggest you do a repair on JAWS 13.


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Re: how to send a message to JAWS (PostMessage)

Marco Steinebach <marco.steinebach@...>
 

Hello again,
After three hours of searching for any information about both, the
fsapi.dll and/or the jfwapi.dll, I could find definetely nothing.
Can anybody give me a header file, a documentation, or a peace of code
how to use them?
This would be very helpful!
Regards
Marco

Hello,
Thanks. That's what I was looking for!
Marco

Rather than a window message, use the FSApi.dll and the JFWStopSpeech
function. If you look around the FS website you should be able to
find at least a header for the jaws API, possibly an import library
too (though I believe it is recommended that you use run-time dynamic
linking - LoadLibrary/GetProcAddress).
On 12/1/11, Marco Steinebach <marco.steinebach@t-online.de> wrote:
Hello,
My question has todo with programming. Under Windows you can send
messages to an application, e.g. with the PostMessage command.
Can anybody tell me the messagenumber, wich stops the speech output,
as if I had pressed ctrl?
This would be very helpful.
Best Regards
Marco



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Re: how to send a message to JAWS (PostMessage)

Marco Steinebach <marco.steinebach@...>
 

Hello,
Thanks. That's what I was looking for!
Marco

Rather than a window message, use the FSApi.dll and the JFWStopSpeech
function. If you look around the FS website you should be able to
find at least a header for the jaws API, possibly an import library
too (though I believe it is recommended that you use run-time dynamic
linking - LoadLibrary/GetProcAddress).
On 12/1/11, Marco Steinebach <marco.steinebach@t-online.de> wrote:
Hello,
My question has todo with programming. Under Windows you can send
messages to an application, e.g. with the PostMessage command.
Can anybody tell me the messagenumber, wich stops the speech output,
as if I had pressed ctrl?
This would be very helpful.
Best Regards
Marco



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Re: [Bulk] I followed the instructions given me by tech support tot he nthdegree. The missing JAWS\enu folder.

Dave...
 

Recycle bin.
Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 19:58
Subject: [Bulk] I followed the instructions given me by tech support tot he
nthdegree. The missing JAWS\enu folder.


Hi,
I wantedto install the otherwiseexcellent training modulesfromt he
Freedom Scientific Training site.

They did not open and could not be readafter being downloaded.

I was given 3 sets of instructions. none of them seemed to conflict so
I followed them eachtime checkingwith tech support. in order expecting
success.

I am in an older JAWS version andwantedto getthe instructions for JAWS
versions 12 and 113--2 versions in the future so I could learn and not ask
questions on this list.

So I was told to
uninstall the downloaded
training files
like the training module for Settings Center,
for Ribbons in Word 7, like
WindowsExplorer and Recycle Bin (in Windows 7),
like the latest Surf's UP etc.

You get the idea.
ThenI was told to delete the
enu folder as in this
path
c:\program files\freedomscientific\training\JAWS\enu.

The path
c:\programfiles\freedomscientific\training\MAGIC\enu
exists.

But
unfortunately
the
JAWS\enu
folders are gone!

No one of course can help me; it is the week end.
I havespent 40 ghours following instructionsto no avail.

How do I gett he
JAWS\enu
folders back
as in
c:\programfiles\freedomscientific\training\JAWS\enu?

I thought I could obtain, downloadand usethe latest training modules
to speed up my learning for the latest version before going to Windows 7.

NowI am worse off.

Please help off list.

thanks.


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I followed the instructions given me by tech support tot he nth degree. The missing JAWS\enu folder.

ptusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,
I wantedto install the otherwiseexcellent training modulesfromt he
Freedom Scientific Training site.

They did not open and could not be readafter being downloaded.

I was given 3 sets of instructions. none of them seemed to conflict so I followed them eachtime checkingwith tech support. in order expecting success.

I am in an older JAWS version andwantedto getthe instructions for JAWS versions 12 and 113--2 versions in the future so I could learn and not ask questions on this list.

So I was told to
uninstall the downloaded
training files
like the training module for Settings Center,
for Ribbons in Word 7, like
WindowsExplorer and Recycle Bin (in Windows 7),
like the latest Surf's UP etc.

You get the idea.
ThenI was told to delete the
enu folder as in this
path
c:\program files\freedomscientific\training\JAWS\enu.

The path
c:\programfiles\freedomscientific\training\MAGIC\enu
exists.

But
unfortunately
the
JAWS\enu
folders are gone!

No one of course can help me; it is the week end.
I havespent 40 ghours following instructionsto no avail.

How do I gett he
JAWS\enu
folders back
as in
c:\programfiles\freedomscientific\training\JAWS\enu?

I thought I could obtain, downloadand usethe latest training modules
to speed up my learning for the latest version before going to Windows 7.

NowI am worse off.

Please help off list.

thanks.


Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Dave...
 

Ed,

While that's entirely possible, it's a lot of work to make up for something
that's elementally wrong with how the setup is working. I also have Windows
7 32-bit with Office 2007 and I can use the Alt key shortcuts just fine when
virtual ribbon is turned off.

Jim, just to make sure, you are aware that the keystrokes are separate, and
not combined? e.g. Alt, then h then o then r. Not Alt+H, then o then r.

Also I've noticed that they need to be typed in succession fairly quickly or
Office loses patience.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 14:54
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons


OK.
Another alternative is to assign your own keystrokes. I've done this with
Word, but not Outlook; however, I did see the same "options" menu choice.
You could simply (possibly) assign Alt plus Shift 0plus S to save
attachment.
In Word, for example, just to give a sample that I can remember off the top
of my head, Alt plus shift plus X brings up the cross-reference dialog box.
Using menu commands, it takes about 4 keystrokes.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marks, Jim
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 4:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

My point is that, with the virtual ribbon turned off, I cannot use the
keystrokes even though the keystrokes should work with the standard ribbon.
I didn't mean to confuse things by talking about the use of virtual ribbons.
I know the keystrokes won't work there. The problem I'm trying to solve is
to be able to use the keystrokes with the traditional standard ribbons.
It's probably a Freedom Scientific tech support problem to solve since it
seems that others can use Jaws 13, the traditional standard ribbons, and the
keystrokes just fine. Something may be messed up with my system.


Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 2:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Okay I understand now. You cannot use the standard Alt key shortcuts when
you have the virtual ribbon turned on. It's one or the other. That's why I
keep the virtual ribbon disabled completely.

This is the same behavior as with JAWS 12, BTW.


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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

OK.
Another alternative is to assign your own keystrokes. I've done this with Word, but not Outlook; however, I did see the same "options" menu choice.
You could simply (possibly) assign Alt plus Shift 0plus S to save attachment.
In Word, for example, just to give a sample that I can remember off the top of my head, Alt plus shift plus X brings up the cross-reference dialog box. Using menu commands, it takes about 4 keystrokes.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marks, Jim
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 4:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

My point is that, with the virtual ribbon turned off, I cannot use the keystrokes even though the keystrokes should work with the standard ribbon. I didn't mean to confuse things by talking about the use of virtual ribbons. I know the keystrokes won't work there. The problem I'm trying to solve is to be able to use the keystrokes with the traditional standard ribbons. It's probably a Freedom Scientific tech support problem to solve since it seems that others can use Jaws 13, the traditional standard ribbons, and the keystrokes just fine. Something may be messed up with my system.


Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 2:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Okay I understand now. You cannot use the standard Alt key shortcuts when
you have the virtual ribbon turned on. It's one or the other. That's why I
keep the virtual ribbon disabled completely.

This is the same behavior as with JAWS 12, BTW.


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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Marks, Jim
 

My point is that, with the virtual ribbon turned off, I cannot use the keystrokes even though the keystrokes should work with the standard ribbon. I didn't mean to confuse things by talking about the use of virtual ribbons. I know the keystrokes won't work there. The problem I'm trying to solve is to be able to use the keystrokes with the traditional standard ribbons. It's probably a Freedom Scientific tech support problem to solve since it seems that others can use Jaws 13, the traditional standard ribbons, and the keystrokes just fine. Something may be messed up with my system.


Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 2:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Okay I understand now. You cannot use the standard Alt key shortcuts when
you have the virtual ribbon turned on. It's one or the other. That's why I
keep the virtual ribbon disabled completely.

This is the same behavior as with JAWS 12, BTW.


Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.

You gotta use one or the other.

If you like to use keystrokes, then?
You need to have the jaws virtual ribbon shut off.
However, if you wish to navigate the ribbon through the menus, then?
Having the feature on will be fine.

Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marks, Jim
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

Thanks again, Dave.

The ribbon problem persists after the repair, but the control+r keystroke
now works. I'll contact Freedom Scientific to see why my ribbons are
behaving so differently from how they do using Jaws 12. If I learn
anything, I'll share with the list.

BTW, Jaws 13 seems much snappier than 12 on my Windows 7 32b computer.
However, this ribbon problem is a deal breaker for me. My tools should help
me do what I want and not stand in the way.

Best!


Jim Marks jimmarks@mt.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Jaws 13 & Virtual Ribbons

JAWS 13 works very well (in fact better than JAWS 12) with Office 2007
Applications. Suggest you do a repair on JAWS 13.


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