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moderated Stopping JAWS to say 'spelling error'

Gezim Rexha
 

Hi all,

 

At my workplace, yesterday they installed JAWS 2019 for me, but instead of making me happy, it made my work far slower and it was nerve-breaking. That is because while navigating word documents, JAWS kept saying ‘spelling error’ all the time. Is there a way to stop that?

 

Looking forward to your instructions.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Audible And Chrome

John Covici
 

I have not noticed this at all using chrome. I do a search and after
a bunch of filters, I see the titles and if I click on one of them, I
get a page, which among other things has the publishers summary.

On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 21:49:30 -0400,
clcarter via Groups.Io wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
I have noticed some canges in the way Chrome and Edge Beta read the Audible page. Instead of presenting the titles when you are on the page, there are graphis and symbolsbeside the title. I have tried changing the settings in the JAWS
profile, but it mmakes no difference.

I have had to go to Firefox to get a clean Audible page. Are there any settings that I am missing? should I just go back to the default settings and start over. So Far, this is the only page where I have noticed this.

Also, I have tried the Edge Beta, and I found the menues, if you can call them that, a little cutsy. Any ideas?
Thanks!

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moderated Audible And Chrome

clarence carter
 

I have noticed some canges in the way Chrome and Edge Beta read the Audible page. Instead of presenting the titles when you are on the page, there are graphis and symbolsbeside the title. I  have tried changing the settings in the JAWS profile, but it mmakes no difference.

I have had to go to Firefox to get  a clean Audible page. Are there any settings that I am missing? should I just go back to the default settings and start over. So Far, this is the only page where I have noticed this.

Also, I have tried the Edge Beta, and I found the menues, if you can call them that, a little cutsy. Any ideas?
Thanks!

moderated Re: Re arranging columns in Excel

 

Robin,

             Thanks for the clarification.

              When it comes to Excel spreadsheets, even though I'm sighted, if I can avoid having to "go to the top of a column" then focus on it I prefer to.  Whether we're talking a row or column, moving up/down or left/right, respectively, and being able to select the whole thing is really convenient.   I don't use Excel very often at all and a lot of what I've learned about it is "keyboard centric" because it's been for blind or visually impaired clients who are, or when questions come up here.

               By the way, the Microsoft document, in MS-Word format, Excel 2016 for Windows keyboard shortcuts, can come in very handy indeed when it comes to figuring out how to do something one seldom does or needs to do.  I find the full set of keyboard shortcuts all in one document to be even more useful than the reference pages on the Microsoft site since they're easier to search.

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         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: Re arranging columns in Excel

Van Lant, Robin
 

Brian, we are both correct, I was just expanding on your comment.  I’m simply saying that you don’t have to select the second column before doing the “paste cut cells”, as long as your cursor is at the top of that column.  Your method of selecting the second column is a nice trick I didn’t know for being able to insert the cut column without moving to the top of the desired column first.  I can see how that would be really valuable when I’m working in some of my massive spreadsheets and I look forward to using that. 

 

And, indeed, our method of using insert cut cells is better because it doesn’t’ leave the empty column after pasting. I made that comment because someone else responded that they first insert a blank column then copy and paste the data they want to move, which you and I both know would leave an empty column.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re arranging columns in Excel

 

But the instructions I gave do not leave the cut column in place (or a vacated column in the same place as the cut column), otherwise it wouldn't be doing what was asked for.

If you select a column in its entirety, cut it, select another column in its entirety, and then use Insert Cut Cells the column cut is moved wholesale and the letter designations for the columns are reset.  The cut column will be moved immediately to the left of the column selected immediately prior to doing the insert.  This is the only thing that can make sense, as if one wishes to put a column first (in the Column A position) instead of what's there you have to select column a in its entirety, then insert.  Then the inserted column becomes Column A, the former Column A becomes B, etc., etc., etc.
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moderated Re: clicking Chrome extension

Mario
 

Mike and anyone else interested, press alt+f, then l and e. the
extensions dialog will open.
arrow to and spacebar on the details button of the extension,
arrow to and spacebar on the extension options link which is towards the
end of the dialog,
there are two tabs that you will be looking for, one is the general
arrow to and spacebar on the discovered sounds tab to select it's
assignments. for some odd reason, I cannot select the general settings
tab, so if you get stuck after pressing spacebar on the discovered
sounds tab, you might be able to get out by pressing the enter key.

anyway, this is where there are a bunch of events that can be checked or
unchecked using the spacebar. one of these events is startup. the
others, if checked, will be assigned after the first instance of that
event is triggered.

I have discovered, when switching to the discovered sounds tab, for some
strange reason, I am unable to switch to the general settings tab.
usually the tabs remain on the page after select either so the user can
switch back and forth.

if anyone finds out or knows how if a user can use their sounds instead
of the embedded sounds, please do tell. if anyone has additional tidbits
about this extension, please do tell.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2019, 1:26 PM
Subject: clicking Chrome extension
Hi Mario,
Where do you go to turn on this sound?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
Every man should marry.  After all, happiness is not the only thing in life.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mario <mailto:mrb620@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 08, 2019 10:13 AM
*Subject:* Re: clicking Chrome extension

the one I installed is called chrome sound effects. however there is one
caveat, there is one sound that must be enabled in order for the others
that are checked to play, and that one is "on startup" which sounds like
an airplane taking off. the other caveat is the sounds are embedded and
there's no apparent way to assign your own wav files. if someone knows
how to assign favorite wav files, I'd be interested to know.

it'll be interesting to see what others suggest.

BTW, there's one for Firefox called Extra Sounds which is toughted to be
the replacement for the obsolete Navigational Sounds but only has five
events a user can assign.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dean Martineau [mailto:topdot@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2019, 12:33 PM
Subject: clicking Chrome extension
What is the Chrome extension that some like because it causes key clicks
like Internet Explorer did? My searches haven’t led me to it.

moderated Re: clicking Chrome extension

 

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 02:41 PM, Mario wrote:
sound on click is not reliable
Hardly surprising given that it's last update was in 2014.  That's why I mentioned that, as unmaintained extensions tend to eventually reach an expiration date for functionality, reliability, or both.
 
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moderated Re: clicking Chrome extension

Mario
 

in my opinion, sound on click is not reliable. it doesn't work all the time.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:@britechguy]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2019, 1:17 PM
Subject: clicking Chrome extension
You're probably thinking either of the Sound on Click
<https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sound-on-click/ejchjkneplcffgcopialnjofdhhggjik?hl=en-US> (last

updated in 2014) or Chrome Sound Effects
<https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-sound-effects/oekengelpdnkfopdkkphkmaacfanbnla?hl=en-US>

(last updated 2018) extension.
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         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: Re arranging columns in Excel

 

But the instructions I gave do not leave the cut column in place (or a vacated column in the same place as the cut column), otherwise it wouldn't be doing what was asked for.

If you select a column in its entirety, cut it, select another column in its entirety, and then use Insert Cut Cells the column cut is moved wholesale and the letter designations for the columns are reset.  The cut column will be moved immediately to the left of the column selected immediately prior to doing the insert.  This is the only thing that can make sense, as if one wishes to put a column first (in the Column A position) instead of what's there you have to select column a in its entirety, then insert.  Then the inserted column becomes Column A, the former Column A becomes B, etc., etc., etc.
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         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: Re arranging columns in Excel

Van Lant, Robin
 

The directions below are good, but you do not need to select the column beside which you want to insert.  It is best to be at the top of the column, though, before hitting the context menu and selecting.  The benefit of using this method to insert cut cells is that it automatically deletes the empty column you just vacated.  If you use the method of cutting a column and pasting it into a blank one, the original column will still be there.  That’s fine if it’s at the end of a table, but probably not what you want if you  are moving columns within the middle of a table.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 11:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re arranging columns in Excel

 

From:  https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Keyboard-shortcuts-in-Excel-1798d9d5-842a-42b8-9c99-9b7213f0040f#bkmk_selectwin

Select an entire column in a worksheet         CTRL+Spacebar
Select an entire row in a worksheet               SHIFT+Spacebar

Once you have the column selected you want to move, hit CTRL+X to cut it.

Move to the column where you wish to have the cut column inserted to its left, and select it.

Bring up the context menu and then either arrow down to the Insert Cut Cells item and hit enter, or just hit E, which activates that choice directly.

The column you selected first will now be to the immediate left of the column you had selected when performing the insert.

------------------------------------------------------------------

The same basic principle applies to rows, and I believe the insertion point is above the row selected when the insert is done.

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moderated Re: Re arranging columns in Excel

 

And for complete clarity, when I said "select it" above for the column where you want the cut column to its left, I mean select the entire column using CTRL+Spacebar once you're in any cell in that column.
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moderated Re: Re arranging columns in Excel

 

From:  https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Keyboard-shortcuts-in-Excel-1798d9d5-842a-42b8-9c99-9b7213f0040f#bkmk_selectwin

Select an entire column in a worksheet         CTRL+Spacebar
Select an entire row in a worksheet               SHIFT+Spacebar

Once you have the column selected you want to move, hit CTRL+X to cut it.

Move to the column where you wish to have the cut column inserted to its left, and select it.

Bring up the context menu and then either arrow down to the Insert Cut Cells item and hit enter, or just hit E, which activates that choice directly.

The column you selected first will now be to the immediate left of the column you had selected when performing the insert.

------------------------------------------------------------------

The same basic principle applies to rows, and I believe the insertion point is above the row selected when the insert is done.

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         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: Re arranging columns in Excel

Glenn / Lenny
 


Hi,
If the data is too much different between the columns, this might not work, but I insert a blank column in front of the column that I want to move to the right, and select the column that I want to move and paste it in the blank column.
Control + space bar selects an entire column.
HTH.
Maybe there is an easier way, but in my older version of Office, there is no move option after selecting a column.
 
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: Re arranging columns in Excel

Hi all

My Excel skills is a bit rusty. I’m using Office 365 updated and Jaws 2019 also updated to the latest.

 

How can I re arrange columns on a excel spreadsheet using the keyboard?

 

For example, if A1 has contact number, A2 Email address and A3 Name, how can I move the name column over to A1 so that A1 is Name, A2 contact number and A3 email address.

 

Hope I explained this properly.

 

Nickus

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

moderated Re arranging columns in Excel

Nickus de Vos
 

Hi all

My Excel skills is a bit rusty. I’m using Office 365 updated and Jaws 2019 also updated to the latest.

 

How can I re arrange columns on a excel spreadsheet using the keyboard?

 

For example, if A1 has contact number, A2 Email address and A3 Name, how can I move the name column over to A1 so that A1 is Name, A2 contact number and A3 email address.

 

Hope I explained this properly.

 

Nickus

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

moderated Re: clicking Chrome extension

Mike B
 

Hi Mario,
 
Where do you go to turn on this sound?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
Every man should marry.  After all, happiness is not the only thing in life.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: clicking Chrome extension

the one I installed is called chrome sound effects. however there is one
caveat, there is one sound that must be enabled in order for the others
that are checked to play, and that one is "on startup" which sounds like
an airplane taking off. the other caveat is the sounds are embedded and
there's no apparent way to assign your own wav files. if someone knows
how to assign favorite wav files, I'd be interested to know.

it'll be interesting to see what others suggest.

BTW, there's one for Firefox called Extra Sounds which is toughted to be
the replacement for the obsolete Navigational Sounds but only has five
events a user can assign.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dean Martineau [mailto:topdot@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2019, 12:33 PM
Subject: clicking Chrome extension
What is the Chrome extension that some like because it causes key clicks
like Internet Explorer did? My searches haven’t led me to it.





moderated Re: clicking Chrome extension

 

You're probably thinking either of the Sound on Click (last updated in 2014) or Chrome Sound Effects (last updated 2018) extension.
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         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: clicking Chrome extension

Mario
 

the one I installed is called chrome sound effects. however there is one
caveat, there is one sound that must be enabled in order for the others
that are checked to play, and that one is "on startup" which sounds like
an airplane taking off. the other caveat is the sounds are embedded and
there's no apparent way to assign your own wav files. if someone knows
how to assign favorite wav files, I'd be interested to know.

it'll be interesting to see what others suggest.

BTW, there's one for Firefox called Extra Sounds which is toughted to be
the replacement for the obsolete Navigational Sounds but only has five
events a user can assign.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dean Martineau [mailto:topdot@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2019, 12:33 PM
Subject: clicking Chrome extension
What is the Chrome extension that some like because it causes key clicks
like Internet Explorer did? My searches haven’t led me to it.

moderated clicking Chrome extension

Dean Martineau
 

What is the Chrome extension that some like because it causes key clicks like Internet Explorer did? My searches haven’t led me to it.

 

 

moderated Re: Brave web browser and Flexible Web.

 

Brave has it's own built-in reader mode that's not called such.  If you hit ALT, Down Arrow, then use down arrow to get to "Toggle distilled page contents" that's what switches you in to and out of reader mode for a given page.  Unfortunately there's no keyboard shortcut and if you try ALT, Down Arrow, T you get a new tab.

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         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: Brave web browser and Flexible Web.

Dean Martineau
 

Have you found news sites where Reader Mode in Chrome or Firefox or Mercury Reader or a similar extension didn’t work, but you could implement Flexible Web to get the job done? I’m really happy with Chrome’s Reader Mode for such sites.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Brave web browser and Flexible Web.

 

Well, cumbersome, yeah, but for frequently visited pages like news sites with annoying tracking polls and other feature articles and ads and cartoons smack in the middle of the article text, I think it's worth the trouble.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 7:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Brave web browser and Flexible Web.

This interests me, because I find Flexible Web to be cumbersome. You have to eliminate junk for each page and each occurrence.  I’d love to be enlightened about how people find the feature worth spending the time to use.

 

For Brave, have you tried Mercury Reader, since I believe that Chrome extensions work in that browser?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Brave web browser and Flexible Web.

 

You're right, Jaws has a problem with that.  I suspect they are hard-coded to Chrome, firefox or the others. 

 

 

On 10/8/2019 06:13, fenderwal@... wrote:



Hey, folks.

 

Windows 7, JAWS 18 latest version. I installed the latest Brave browser and, yes, it's snappy, as Richard has written. However, flexible web doesn't seem to work, at least not with an older version of JAWS Jaws key plus space bar gives me the Flexible Web sound effect, but X, the follow-up key, does nothing for me. No dialog, nothing.

 

can anyone else duplicate this?

 

Brave does a good job of holding back the onslaught of ads, but losing Flexible Web is kind of like having a toe amputated.

 

--Lou N.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 2:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Brave web browser

I took the plunge and installed Brave.

So far so good.

I let it import my bookmarks from Firefox and it seems quite good and snappy to use.

I will work with it more, but I can see myself making it my default if all goes well.

Richard

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