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Re: Windows Speech Recognition and JAWS

RJ Sandefur
 

I am a seminary student, and I am taking a lot of courses which require me to do papers where I have to interprate three or more passages of scriptures. I am a slow typist, and my cerebel paulsy is getting worse. How and where did you get dragon? How much did it caust, and are you going to get rid of J Say? Please email me at: joltingjacksandefur@gmail.com
RJ

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: Windows Speech Recognition and JAWS


I have heard of people using the default Windows 7 speech recognition engine. I've heard it is not quite as good as Naturally Speaking 10.
I have Dragon Naturally Speaking 10, and intend to install Version 11 tomorrow.
I'm told it is the same engine that Siri uses on the iPhone. If so, then I wouldn't settle for anything less.
On my iPhone, Siri has made a total of 2 mistakes in the 5 weeks since I've had her. Vastly, vastly, vastly, vastly, vastly better than Dragon Naturally Speaking 10.
I'll let you know after installation.
Your friend will need a headset microphone, but she gets one for free with the Pro version (perhaps Preferred too).
Allegedly, no training is needed for Version 11. The training was the main reason for J-SAY.
I used to use J-SAY, but the security settings in my law firm made it impossible successfully to install J-SAY. So, I bought it for nothing, and haven't tried it for at least 3 years. Naturally Speaking works just fine without J-SAY.



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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Starner, Alicia
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Windows Speech Recognition and JAWS

Hello All,



I have a friend who recently hurt her hand and wants to use speech
recognition to enter text into a Word 2010 document. Using the traditional
keyboard is making her hand hurt a lot and she thought the speech
recognition software that comes automatically loaded with Windows 7 would
help her. Does anyone know if she will be able to use speech recognition to
enter the text and JAWS to review it to ensure it is working. My friend is
another college student and it is very important for her to get the
information correct that the computer types and she wants to make sure to
review it for accuracy.



Alicia



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Re: Windows Speech Recognition and JAWS

Starner, Alicia <astarner@...>
 

Oh cool. Thanks I thought you had to use Jay say with Dragon, so I didn't
recommend it for her. It will take her hand a while to recover, as she has
to have surgery. A long term solution like Dragon Naturally Speaking might
be a good option for her. Thanks again. I will let her know.

Alicia

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Windows Speech Recognition and JAWS

I have heard of people using the default Windows 7 speech recognition
engine. I've heard it is not quite as good as Naturally Speaking 10.
I have Dragon Naturally Speaking 10, and intend to install Version 11
tomorrow.
I'm told it is the same engine that Siri uses on the iPhone. If so, then I
wouldn't settle for anything less.
On my iPhone, Siri has made a total of 2 mistakes in the 5 weeks since I've
had her. Vastly, vastly, vastly, vastly, vastly better than Dragon
Naturally Speaking 10.
I'll let you know after installation.
Your friend will need a headset microphone, but she gets one for free with
the Pro version (perhaps Preferred too).
Allegedly, no training is needed for Version 11. The training was the main
reason for J-SAY.
I used to use J-SAY, but the security settings in my law firm made it
impossible successfully to install J-SAY. So, I bought it for nothing, and
haven't tried it for at least 3 years. Naturally Speaking works just fine
without J-SAY.



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On Behalf Of Starner, Alicia
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Windows Speech Recognition and JAWS

Hello All,



I have a friend who recently hurt her hand and wants to use speech
recognition to enter text into a Word 2010 document. Using the traditional
keyboard is making her hand hurt a lot and she thought the speech
recognition software that comes automatically loaded with Windows 7 would
help her. Does anyone know if she will be able to use speech recognition to
enter the text and JAWS to review it to ensure it is working. My friend is
another college student and it is very important for her to get the
information correct that the computer types and she wants to make sure to
review it for accuracy.



Alicia



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Re: Windows Speech Recognition and JAWS

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

I have heard of people using the default Windows 7 speech recognition engine. I've heard it is not quite as good as Naturally Speaking 10.
I have Dragon Naturally Speaking 10, and intend to install Version 11 tomorrow.
I'm told it is the same engine that Siri uses on the iPhone. If so, then I wouldn't settle for anything less.
On my iPhone, Siri has made a total of 2 mistakes in the 5 weeks since I've had her. Vastly, vastly, vastly, vastly, vastly better than Dragon Naturally Speaking 10.
I'll let you know after installation.
Your friend will need a headset microphone, but she gets one for free with the Pro version (perhaps Preferred too).
Allegedly, no training is needed for Version 11. The training was the main reason for J-SAY.
I used to use J-SAY, but the security settings in my law firm made it impossible successfully to install J-SAY. So, I bought it for nothing, and haven't tried it for at least 3 years. Naturally Speaking works just fine without J-SAY.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Starner, Alicia
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Windows Speech Recognition and JAWS

Hello All,



I have a friend who recently hurt her hand and wants to use speech
recognition to enter text into a Word 2010 document. Using the traditional
keyboard is making her hand hurt a lot and she thought the speech
recognition software that comes automatically loaded with Windows 7 would
help her. Does anyone know if she will be able to use speech recognition to
enter the text and JAWS to review it to ensure it is working. My friend is
another college student and it is very important for her to get the
information correct that the computer types and she wants to make sure to
review it for accuracy.



Alicia



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Windows Speech Recognition and JAWS

Starner, Alicia <astarner@...>
 

Hello All,



I have a friend who recently hurt her hand and wants to use speech
recognition to enter text into a Word 2010 document. Using the traditional
keyboard is making her hand hurt a lot and she thought the speech
recognition software that comes automatically loaded with Windows 7 would
help her. Does anyone know if she will be able to use speech recognition to
enter the text and JAWS to review it to ensure it is working. My friend is
another college student and it is very important for her to get the
information correct that the computer types and she wants to make sure to
review it for accuracy.



Alicia



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Re: Itunes

Gary King
 

Howard,
iTunes was just examining the folders on your drive so that it could list your music in its library. It wasn't moving anything. I don't know any way to get the process started again. You can import individual folders using options on the Files Menu.

You may benefit from listening to 3 podcasts from Freedom Scientific. Go to the web site and look for the FSCast link. If you read through the list of podcasts, you will find that FSCasts 49 and 50 are concerned with using iTunes with JFW, and FsCast 59 is an interview with John Martin, the author of the Blind Tunes scripts.

As for the Blind Tunes scripts, Insert+q should give the version number of the scripts. Maybe you have a bad installation. There is a form for contacting John Martin on the page where you got the scripts. Also, John may be monitoring the list and can come to your rescue.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <howard@traxlerenterprises.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Hi Karen et al,
When I thought iTunes was taking over, i stopped it; rather stupid, don't you think. Now I need to figure out how to get it to finish the job--whatever it was doing.

I installed "blindtunes" but now when I run iTunes and do a JAWSKey plus q, it still says default scripts are loaded. It seems that, for some reason, jaws isn't finding the blindtunes scripts. Does that need to be fixed, huh? Thanks.
Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Itunes


i felt that i tunes was taking over when i first used it too, smile. but try installing blind tunes free and use it with i tunes. it works a lot better. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <howard@traxlerenterprises.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Well, I've got a start on it now. I have it down and installed. It started going through my music drive and after about 15 minutes I stopped it. Hope it didn't do any darnage to my music. What the heck was it doing? Was it moving all my stuff? I used to know where to find it all. does anybody have any instructions of this huge thing? I think it's taking over! HELP!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Oops, sorry for putting two links in that post. I had more on the clipboard than I thought. Still, you should be able to find it.

At 09:35 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote:
go to www.apple.com/itunes and click on "<http://www.apple.com/itunes//itunes/download/>Download iTunes Now"
On the page that comes up, look for the version you need, for example, 10.51 for Windows 7.

Chris



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Re: Itunes

Dondi
 

Hi,

I'll have to try this. That raises another question is iTunes incapable of
burning the song titles to the CD like Windows media player can do? I
created a compilation CD of many different artist's and none of the song
titles were burned to the CD.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Itunes

Dondi,

Then your CD must not have been properly burned. Try doing another one.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 01:02
Subject: RE: Itunes


Hi,

I'm not sure if your referring to my email about iTunes ignoring my homemade
CD. But no iTunes doesn't do anything with this music CD I have. Other then
this CD it will see and rip all the rest to the library.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Itunes


it doesn't ask you if you want to import the CD when you insert it
in the drive?




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Re: Itunes

Dondi
 

Hi,

No, that's what I'm saying iTunes doesn't do anything with this CD. All the
rest of the CD's I have put in that are store bought iTunes went and asked
something like do I want to add this CD to the library. And then I got
around to looking at iTunes and I never found an option to make iTunes to go
and access the CD player.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Karen Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:04 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Itunes

if the c d is homemade it would go to unknown artist, will it not. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:02 AM
Subject: RE: Itunes


Hi,

I'm not sure if your referring to my email about iTunes ignoring my
homemade
CD. But no iTunes doesn't do anything with this music CD I have. Other
then
this CD it will see and rip all the rest to the library.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Itunes


it doesn't ask you if you want to import the CD when you insert it
in the drive?




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Re: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting, and Seeking Testers

gary melconian <globcastcapital@...>
 

Hello I would like to gladly participate as I am an accountant and I have
used peachtree with the competitive screenreader and I do hhave jaws 13 at
work, and just need to know which version is going to be used with the jaws
scripts. I have to get that version so that I can help in this venture.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Richard B McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:05 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting, and
Seeking Testers

Hello,



This is an open call for beta testers for the soon to be released "Jaws
Scripts for Peachtree". More can be learned about this at:



www.scriptsforjaws.com



Peachtree Complete Accounting is the leading bookkeeping, accounting and CRM
software. More can be learned about Peachtree from the review of it by "Top
Ten Reviews" at:



http://accounting-software-review.toptenreviews.com/peachtree-review.html



Beta testers will receive a full copy of Peachtree Complete Accounting 2012
as well as a full set of the scripts. These are commercial quality scripts
developed in conjunction with Virtual Vision Technologies (VVT). VVT is the
one and only specifically named third party commercial script writing
company by Freedom Scientific on its own webpage. Positions are limited, so
do not miss out!



Thank you,

Richard

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Re: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting, and Seeking Testers

gary melconian <globcastcapital@...>
 

Which version of Peachtree will the scripts work with. I have Peachtree
2008, and I am an accountant and I would be willing to test your scripts,
tell me what I need to do, how I need to do this since i have never
installed jaws scripts on a jaws version just used default jaws scripts
and would be willing to help you out in this venture. Just let me know and I
will gladly help you out.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting, and
Seeking Testers

Hi, would this be useful for managing home finances as well i.e. importing
bank statements, recurring trnasactions etc.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard B McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:04 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting,and
Seeking Testers

Hello,



This is an open call for beta testers for the soon to be released "Jaws
Scripts for Peachtree". More can be learned about this at:



www.scriptsforjaws.com



Peachtree Complete Accounting is the leading bookkeeping, accounting and CRM
software. More can be learned about Peachtree from the review of it by "Top
Ten Reviews" at:



http://accounting-software-review.toptenreviews.com/peachtree-review.html



Beta testers will receive a full copy of Peachtree Complete Accounting 2012
as well as a full set of the scripts. These are commercial quality scripts
developed in conjunction with Virtual Vision Technologies (VVT). VVT is the
one and only specifically named third party commercial script writing
company by Freedom Scientific on its own webpage. Positions are limited, so
do not miss out!



Thank you,

Richard

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Re: Itunes

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

hmm i'd probably suggest running the iTunes install again.

If you want to start over from scratch, the detailed uninstallation instructions are at this link:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1923

Chris

At 02:45 PM 12/6/2011, you wrote:
Chris, would you suggest Howard try to uninstall iTunes and start over, or
possibly just re-start the installation over the existing partially
installed one? I don't think he should try to install Blind Tunes until
iTunes is in place.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Itunes

i have no idea what iTunes was doing when you tried installing it before,
because you didn't tell us what steps you took, how you answered any
questions posed by the installer, etc.
Blindtunes installs automatically into the correct settings folders when you
run the installer that you downloaded.

If you have more than one version of Jaws installed, make sure you select
the version you want when asked by the installer. The same goes for
language.
Besides that, clicking Next a couple times and accepting the license
agreement is all you have to do.




At 02:15 PM 12/6/2011, you wrote:
Hi Karen et al,
When I thought iTunes was taking over, i stopped it; rather stupid,
don't you think. Now I need to figure out how to get it to
finish the
job--whatever it was doing.

I installed "blindtunes" but now when I run iTunes and do a JAWSKey
plus q, it still says default scripts are loaded. It seems
that, for
some reason, jaws isn't finding the blindtunes scripts. Does
that need
to be fixed, huh? Thanks.
Howard
----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hughes"
<khughes8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Itunes


i felt that i tunes was taking over when i first used it too,
smile.
but try installing blind tunes free and use it with i tunes. it
works
a lot better. karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Traxler"
<howard@traxlerenterprises.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Well, I've got a start on it now. I have it down and
installed. It
started going through my music drive and after about 15 minutes I
stopped it. Hope it didn't do any darnage to my music. What the
heck was it doing? Was it moving all my stuff? I used to
know where
to find it all. does anybody have any instructions of this huge
thing? I think it's taking over! HELP!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart"
<csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Oops, sorry for putting two links in that post. I had more on
the
clipboard than I thought. Still, you should be able to find it.

At 09:35 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote:
go to www.apple.com/itunes and click on
"<http://www.apple.com/itunes//itunes/download/>Download
iTunes Now"
On the page that comes up, look for the version you need, for
example, 10.51 for Windows 7.

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Re: amazon.com Jaws 11

Adrian Spratt
 

To get to the "add to cart" button, you'd probably need to press b for
button instead of c. I don't do it that way and I don't use Amazon's
accessible site, since I find the regular site completely accessible. That's
why I'm being tentative. The way I do it is to search for the word "cart."

Are you working with an English language version of the website?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 3:16 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11

Hey Farfar,
I want to let you know that I finally able to order the audio cd with
www.amazon.com/access website ,but when I got to add shopping cart button
before I did that I press insert f7 then press letter a to see if I hear
it's say add shopping cart it wouldn't say that at all!! When I got to next
page and press insert f7 for links view jaws doesn't say where I want to
press letter c to say continue button why is that? I had to use arrow up or
down to each links to find what I need to press enter on instead of press
insert f7. Thank you for your help!!

O. Addison Gethers

e-mail address
oag1rottie@hotmail.com
O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com

Facebook
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11


Hello Miriam,

Well put. I feel suitably chastised. So I'll give you my perspective.

There's a perfectly good training tool for learning how to use the web
called "Surf's Up" on the FS site and also in the help/web resources menu
from JAWS. I recommend that to anyone who has a need to learn basic
navigation on the web, like Insert+F7 to bring up a list of links.

I don't mind pointing people to that training tool and give advice on how
to
navigate using JAWS. However I do draw the line when someone just whines
about not being able to do something on such-and-such a web site and
hoping
that someone will jump in and tell them what to do -- problem is that the
originator has not told us specifically just what they are having trouble
with.

To wit, here's the original request, and please tell me what I should have
told him/her to do:

"I'm trying to order audio cd from amazon ,my cousin show me how to order
from amazom.com last week ago !! I have try to order audio cd but I forgot
how to do it!! Does anybody know how to tell me how to order audio cd from
amazon.com website? I really need your help to tell me how to do it with
jaws!! I'm using jaws 11,window xp desktop computer with home edition. I
will appreciate any help and answer from anybody."

Okay, I'll give you a hint. The question we need to actually answer is
this
part:

"Does anybody know how to tell me how to order audio cd from
amazon.com website?"

The answer is either "No." or the answer I gave:

"Click on the item you want. Add to shopping cart. Go to checkout. Give
them
your credit card."

Other than my additional snide comments, I thought my answer was eloquent
and precise. I certainly have no way to know what his/her cousin told
him/her to do, do I?


Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Vieni" <miriamvieni@optonline.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 06:49
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11


I'm new to this list. I am an older person and I've been using Jaws for a
long time and have never become a skilled user. So with that background,
I'd like to suggest that if someone doesn't know how to use Amazon, or
hasn't used a shopping site, or isn't comfortable doing it, and uses Jaws,
and asks the list for help, it seems to me that there might be a kind soul
on the list who would really try to help instead of embarrassing the
person
for daring to ask and show his vulnerability.

Miriam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11


Addison --

Click on the item you want. Add to shopping cart. Go to checkout. Give
them
your credit card.

Gee. it's really sort of simple, isn't it? Just like most shopping web
sites?

Why do you think we know what we can help you with? This is something you
have to figure out for yourself if you really want to get involved with
on-line shopping.

Practice, practice, practice, practise.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "O.Addison Gethers" <oag1rottie@hotmail.com>
To: "Jaws - 3" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 19:08
Subject: amazon.com Jaws 11


Hi All,
I'm trying to order audio cd from amazon ,my cousin show me how to order
from amazom.com last week ago !! I have try to order audio cd but I forgot
how to do it!! Does anybody know how to tell me how to order audio cd from
amazon.com website? I really need your help to tell me how to do it with
jaws!! I'm using jaws 11,window xp desktop computer with home edition. I
will appreciate any help and answer from anybody.


O. Addison Gethers

e-mail address
oag1rottie@hotmail.com
O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com

Facebook
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Re: amazon.com Jaws 11

O.Addison Gethers <oag1rottie@...>
 

Hey Farfar,
I want to let you know that I finally able to order the audio cd with www.amazon.com/access website ,but when I got to add shopping cart button before I did that I press insert f7 then press letter a to see if I hear it's say add shopping cart it wouldn't say that at all!! When I got to next page and press insert f7 for links view jaws doesn't say where I want to press letter c to say continue button why is that? I had to use arrow up or down to each links to find what I need to press enter on instead of press insert f7. Thank you for your help!!

O. Addison Gethers

e-mail address
oag1rottie@hotmail.com
O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com

Facebook
oag1rottie@hotmail.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11


Hello Miriam,

Well put. I feel suitably chastised. So I'll give you my perspective.

There's a perfectly good training tool for learning how to use the web
called "Surf's Up" on the FS site and also in the help/web resources menu
from JAWS. I recommend that to anyone who has a need to learn basic
navigation on the web, like Insert+F7 to bring up a list of links.

I don't mind pointing people to that training tool and give advice on how to
navigate using JAWS. However I do draw the line when someone just whines
about not being able to do something on such-and-such a web site and hoping
that someone will jump in and tell them what to do -- problem is that the
originator has not told us specifically just what they are having trouble
with.

To wit, here's the original request, and please tell me what I should have
told him/her to do:

"I'm trying to order audio cd from amazon ,my cousin show me how to order
from amazom.com last week ago !! I have try to order audio cd but I forgot
how to do it!! Does anybody know how to tell me how to order audio cd from
amazon.com website? I really need your help to tell me how to do it with
jaws!! I'm using jaws 11,window xp desktop computer with home edition. I
will appreciate any help and answer from anybody."

Okay, I'll give you a hint. The question we need to actually answer is this
part:

"Does anybody know how to tell me how to order audio cd from
amazon.com website?"

The answer is either "No." or the answer I gave:

"Click on the item you want. Add to shopping cart. Go to checkout. Give them
your credit card."

Other than my additional snide comments, I thought my answer was eloquent
and precise. I certainly have no way to know what his/her cousin told
him/her to do, do I?


Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Vieni" <miriamvieni@optonline.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 06:49
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11


I'm new to this list. I am an older person and I've been using Jaws for a
long time and have never become a skilled user. So with that background,
I'd like to suggest that if someone doesn't know how to use Amazon, or
hasn't used a shopping site, or isn't comfortable doing it, and uses Jaws,
and asks the list for help, it seems to me that there might be a kind soul
on the list who would really try to help instead of embarrassing the person
for daring to ask and show his vulnerability.

Miriam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11


Addison --

Click on the item you want. Add to shopping cart. Go to checkout. Give them
your credit card.

Gee. it's really sort of simple, isn't it? Just like most shopping web
sites?

Why do you think we know what we can help you with? This is something you
have to figure out for yourself if you really want to get involved with
on-line shopping.

Practice, practice, practice, practise.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "O.Addison Gethers" <oag1rottie@hotmail.com>
To: "Jaws - 3" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 19:08
Subject: amazon.com Jaws 11


Hi All,
I'm trying to order audio cd from amazon ,my cousin show me how to order
from amazom.com last week ago !! I have try to order audio cd but I forgot
how to do it!! Does anybody know how to tell me how to order audio cd from
amazon.com website? I really need your help to tell me how to do it with
jaws!! I'm using jaws 11,window xp desktop computer with home edition. I
will appreciate any help and answer from anybody.


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Re: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting, and Seeking Testers

Tim McNulty <timinco77@...>
 

Thank you so much for this!  I can't tell you how valuable this will be to our small business!  Finally I'll be able to help with our bookkeeping.  I'm going to apply to be a tester and get a free copy!  Tim



________________________________
From: Richard B McDonald <richardbmcdonald@gmail.com>
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting, and Seeking Testers

Hello,



This is an open call for beta testers for the soon to be released "Jaws
Scripts for Peachtree".  More can be learned about this at:



www.scriptsforjaws.com



Peachtree Complete Accounting is the leading bookkeeping, accounting and CRM
software.  More can be learned about Peachtree from the review of it by "Top
Ten Reviews" at:



http://accounting-software-review.toptenreviews.com/peachtree-review.html



Beta testers will receive a full copy of Peachtree Complete Accounting 2012
as well as a full set of the scripts.  These are commercial quality scripts
developed in conjunction with Virtual Vision Technologies (VVT).  VVT is the
one and only specifically named third party commercial script writing
company by Freedom Scientific on its own webpage.  Positions are limited, so
do not miss out!



Thank you,

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Re: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting, and Seeking Testers

Tim McNulty <timinco77@...>
 

Yes Peter!  Finally there will be something for blind users to take care of business accounting   I have been hoping for this.  I'm signing up to test and get a free copy!  Tim



________________________________
From: Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting, and Seeking Testers

Hi, would this be useful for managing home finances as well i.e. importing bank statements, recurring trnasactions etc.

peter

-----Original Message----- From: Richard B McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:04 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Introducing Jaws Scripts for Peachtree Complete Accounting,and Seeking Testers

Hello,



This is an open call for beta testers for the soon to be released "Jaws
Scripts for Peachtree".  More can be learned about this at:



www.scriptsforjaws.com



Peachtree Complete Accounting is the leading bookkeeping, accounting and CRM
software.  More can be learned about Peachtree from the review of it by "Top
Ten Reviews" at:



http://accounting-software-review.toptenreviews.com/peachtree-review.html



Beta testers will receive a full copy of Peachtree Complete Accounting 2012
as well as a full set of the scripts.  These are commercial quality scripts
developed in conjunction with Virtual Vision Technologies (VVT).  VVT is the
one and only specifically named third party commercial script writing
company by Freedom Scientific on its own webpage.  Positions are limited, so
do not miss out!



Thank you,

Richard

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Re: Itunes

Adrian Spratt
 

Chris, would you suggest Howard try to uninstall iTunes and start over, or
possibly just re-start the installation over the existing partially
installed one? I don't think he should try to install Blind Tunes until
iTunes is in place.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Itunes

i have no idea what iTunes was doing when you tried installing it before,
because you didn't tell us what steps you took, how you answered any
questions posed by the installer, etc.
Blindtunes installs automatically into the correct settings folders when you
run the installer that you downloaded.

If you have more than one version of Jaws installed, make sure you select
the version you want when asked by the installer. The same goes for
language.
Besides that, clicking Next a couple times and accepting the license
agreement is all you have to do.




At 02:15 PM 12/6/2011, you wrote:
Hi Karen et al,
When I thought iTunes was taking over, i stopped it; rather stupid,
don't you think. Now I need to figure out how to get it to finish the
job--whatever it was doing.

I installed "blindtunes" but now when I run iTunes and do a JAWSKey
plus q, it still says default scripts are loaded. It seems that, for
some reason, jaws isn't finding the blindtunes scripts. Does that need
to be fixed, huh? Thanks.
Howard
----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Itunes


i felt that i tunes was taking over when i first used it too, smile.
but try installing blind tunes free and use it with i tunes. it works
a lot better. karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Traxler"
<howard@traxlerenterprises.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Well, I've got a start on it now. I have it down and installed. It
started going through my music drive and after about 15 minutes I
stopped it. Hope it didn't do any darnage to my music. What the
heck was it doing? Was it moving all my stuff? I used to know where
to find it all. does anybody have any instructions of this huge
thing? I think it's taking over! HELP!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Oops, sorry for putting two links in that post. I had more on the
clipboard than I thought. Still, you should be able to find it.

At 09:35 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote:
go to www.apple.com/itunes and click on
"<http://www.apple.com/itunes//itunes/download/>Download iTunes Now"
On the page that comes up, look for the version you need, for
example, 10.51 for Windows 7.

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Re: Itunes

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Does iTunes ask you during the installation if you want to look on your system for music and other media files? If so, maybe you answered yes and it went searching, which would take awhile.




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Re: Itunes

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

i have no idea what iTunes was doing when you tried installing it before, because you didn't tell us what steps you took, how you answered any questions posed by the installer, etc.
Blindtunes installs automatically into the correct settings folders when you run the installer that you downloaded.

If you have more than one version of Jaws installed, make sure you select the version you want when asked by the installer. The same goes for language.
Besides that, clicking Next a couple times and accepting the license agreement is all you have to do.




At 02:15 PM 12/6/2011, you wrote:
Hi Karen et al,
When I thought iTunes was taking over, i stopped it; rather stupid, don't you think. Now I need to figure out how to get it to finish the job--whatever it was doing.

I installed "blindtunes" but now when I run iTunes and do a JAWSKey plus q, it still says default scripts are loaded. It seems that, for some reason, jaws isn't finding the blindtunes scripts. Does that need to be fixed, huh? Thanks.
Howard
----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Itunes


i felt that i tunes was taking over when i first used it too, smile. but try installing blind tunes free and use it with i tunes. it works a lot better. karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Traxler" <howard@traxlerenterprises.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Well, I've got a start on it now. I have it down and installed. It started going through my music drive and after about 15 minutes I stopped it. Hope it didn't do any darnage to my music. What the heck was it doing? Was it moving all my stuff? I used to know where to find it all. does anybody have any instructions of this huge thing? I think it's taking over! HELP!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Oops, sorry for putting two links in that post. I had more on the clipboard than I thought. Still, you should be able to find it.

At 09:35 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote:
go to www.apple.com/itunes and click on "<http://www.apple.com/itunes//itunes/download/>Download iTunes Now"
On the page that comes up, look for the version you need, for example, 10.51 for Windows 7.

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Re: Itunes

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Don't pick on me, guys. I'm just an old coot that has a hard time learning. You're right; I don't really want to use iTunes, but I'd like to help my brother out with his music. I'll keep trying and trying not to bother yous guys so much. Anyways, thanks, Dave and others, for your help so far.
Howard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Howard,

Just forget it. It's obviously something you don't want to try and tackle.
Enough.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <howard@traxlerenterprises.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 18:03
Subject: Re: Itunes


I went to the site you suggested and downloaded itunes 10.5.1. It has an
extention of .img. Attempting to install it, windows couldn't open it and
went to the web and found a program called paretologic health advisor. I
downloaded and installed that one. Running it went into some kind of a scan
which locked up jaws longer than i'd like to think what was happening to my
machine. I killed it. Now I'm about to say itumes ain't worth all this.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: Itunes


Hi,

I use iTunes with BlindTunes it's a script that allows you to move around
easier while using iTunes. Below are the links for iTunes which is free
it's
a Apple program for the Windows OS. I use it with Windows 7 and JAWS 12.
Below it is the link to BlindTunes so you can look it over, it's also
free.
It's just a script that JAWS run's.

iTunes when you get to the web page do a search for down as in download
and
you will go right to the download link for iTunes 10.5.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/

BlindTunes
http://www.blindtunes.net/

Dondi


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Itunes

Does this itunes program work with jaws 11? What is this itunes thing?
Is
it a program that I would have on my computer? Where can I get it? Is it
free or reasonable?

Thanks.
Howard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Conan Evanik" <conanevanik@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Hello, Jaws will not read the itunes help files propperly in my
experience either! There are also bugs when trying to use the itunes
store.

On 12/4/11, Robert Logue <bobcat11@telusplanet.net> wrote:
I want to use Itunes but the help screen is pretty blank with Jaws 13.
This is what I get when virtualize the help window:
iTunes Help

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Re: Itunes

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Hi Karen et al,
When I thought iTunes was taking over, i stopped it; rather stupid, don't you think. Now I need to figure out how to get it to finish the job--whatever it was doing.

I installed "blindtunes" but now when I run iTunes and do a JAWSKey plus q, it still says default scripts are loaded. It seems that, for some reason, jaws isn't finding the blindtunes scripts. Does that need to be fixed, huh? Thanks.
Howard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Itunes


i felt that i tunes was taking over when i first used it too, smile. but try installing blind tunes free and use it with i tunes. it works a lot better. karen

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From: "Howard Traxler" <howard@traxlerenterprises.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Well, I've got a start on it now. I have it down and installed. It started going through my music drive and after about 15 minutes I stopped it. Hope it didn't do any darnage to my music. What the heck was it doing? Was it moving all my stuff? I used to know where to find it all. does anybody have any instructions of this huge thing? I think it's taking over! HELP!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes


Oops, sorry for putting two links in that post. I had more on the clipboard than I thought. Still, you should be able to find it.

At 09:35 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote:
go to www.apple.com/itunes and click on "<http://www.apple.com/itunes//itunes/download/>Download iTunes Now"
On the page that comes up, look for the version you need, for example, 10.51 for Windows 7.

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Re: amazon.com Jaws 11

Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@...>
 

I did read the original request. I have several responses to what you've
said. First, the request indicates that the person asking the question is a
naive user or having difficulty with English or some such problem. There
was a response before your's to the effect that it wasn't a Jaws relevant
question. I beg to differ. It absolutely was Jaws relevant. Second: some
of us do well with these tutoring tools or help screens or whatever, and
some of us don't. Some of us need extra hand holding. People join these
lists for a variety of reasons. Some of us think we can get some extra help
with problems. Some of us want to help others. Some of us want to hang out
and share knowledge or just show how smart we are. I know that when I've
joined one of these technical lists, it's because I've needed help. I have
been lucky enough to have been able to offer help occasionally, also. I've
discovered that some lists are kinder than others. I've also discovered
that there are some wonderfully knowledgeable and helpful people on the
lists. There have been a few folks, over the years, who have helped me on
or off list, in ways I would have never expected. They are unusually
thoughtful and talented people. I don't expect everyone to function at that
level. But at a minimum, I would expect kindness. One can point a lister
to a resource in a gentle and patient manner or one can do so in an abrupt
or insulting manner.

I'm sorry to have started out on this list in such a controvercial way. I
appreciate that all of you are very technically savvy and I didn't mean to
introduce myself to you as being this critical, fault finding person.

Miriam

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11


Hello Miriam,

Well put. I feel suitably chastised. So I'll give you my perspective.

There's a perfectly good training tool for learning how to use the web
called "Surf's Up" on the FS site and also in the help/web resources menu
from JAWS. I recommend that to anyone who has a need to learn basic
navigation on the web, like Insert+F7 to bring up a list of links.

I don't mind pointing people to that training tool and give advice on how to
navigate using JAWS. However I do draw the line when someone just whines
about not being able to do something on such-and-such a web site and hoping
that someone will jump in and tell them what to do -- problem is that the
originator has not told us specifically just what they are having trouble
with.

To wit, here's the original request, and please tell me what I should have
told him/her to do:

"I'm trying to order audio cd from amazon ,my cousin show me how to order
from amazom.com last week ago !! I have try to order audio cd but I forgot
how to do it!! Does anybody know how to tell me how to order audio cd from
amazon.com website? I really need your help to tell me how to do it with
jaws!! I'm using jaws 11,window xp desktop computer with home edition. I
will appreciate any help and answer from anybody."

Okay, I'll give you a hint. The question we need to actually answer is this
part:

"Does anybody know how to tell me how to order audio cd from
amazon.com website?"

The answer is either "No." or the answer I gave:

"Click on the item you want. Add to shopping cart. Go to checkout. Give them
your credit card."

Other than my additional snide comments, I thought my answer was eloquent
and precise. I certainly have no way to know what his/her cousin told
him/her to do, do I?


Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Vieni" <miriamvieni@optonline.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 06:49
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11


I'm new to this list. I am an older person and I've been using Jaws for a
long time and have never become a skilled user. So with that background,
I'd like to suggest that if someone doesn't know how to use Amazon, or
hasn't used a shopping site, or isn't comfortable doing it, and uses Jaws,
and asks the list for help, it seems to me that there might be a kind soul
on the list who would really try to help instead of embarrassing the person
for daring to ask and show his vulnerability.

Miriam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: amazon.com Jaws 11


Addison --

Click on the item you want. Add to shopping cart. Go to checkout. Give them
your credit card.

Gee. it's really sort of simple, isn't it? Just like most shopping web
sites?

Why do you think we know what we can help you with? This is something you
have to figure out for yourself if you really want to get involved with
on-line shopping.

Practice, practice, practice, practise.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "O.Addison Gethers" <oag1rottie@hotmail.com>
To: "Jaws - 3" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 19:08
Subject: amazon.com Jaws 11


Hi All,
I'm trying to order audio cd from amazon ,my cousin show me how to order
from amazom.com last week ago !! I have try to order audio cd but I forgot
how to do it!! Does anybody know how to tell me how to order audio cd from
amazon.com website? I really need your help to tell me how to do it with
jaws!! I'm using jaws 11,window xp desktop computer with home edition. I
will appreciate any help and answer from anybody.


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