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Re: [Bulk] Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak

Dave...
 

Darren,

I have the file. Mail me off-list and I'll send it to you. I don't have time
to explore Drop Box.

dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@dsl.pipex.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:56
Subject: [Bulk] Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak


Re: Setting up Win 7 to Use Windows Mail as described by Ryan's Windows Mail
Tweaks.

Hi List.

I set out today to make the tweaks described in the below mail, but have hit
upon a problem. The Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak.zip archived registry files
referred to in the instructions are no longer available on Dropbox.

Is there anyone out there who would still have these files and wouldn't mind
uploading them to Dropbox or Sendspace so as I could grab them and complete
the changes?

You'd really be doing me a huge favour and I'd be extremely grateful to
anyone in a position to help!

Many thanks.

Darran


----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: Windows7, Jaws, and email


Since John brought it up, here's the text file describing how to
substitute
Windows Mail for Windows Live Mail in Windows 7.

I've done it and it works fine, almost exactly the same as Outlook
Express.

However the "Get Help from Communities" do not work. Here's the text:

Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak

I am a big fan of the Microsoft windows7 operating system, but I
feel
one of its weaknesses is its email client Windows Live mail. Many others
who
have used Windows Live Mail (WLM) have also conveyed problems with
instability resulting in spontaneous email client crashes, interface
difficulties, and overall poor performance. Though Microsoft has released
a
WLM 2011 upgrade, users have conveyed similar issues still remain.

Windows Mail was the native email client on the Windows Vista
operating system and the predecessor to Windows Live mail. After
installing
Windows Mail on my Windows7 operating system I have found it exhibits
incredible stability in day to day performance. As a screen reader user I
have found Windows Mail very easy to use as the interface is almost
identical to my much adored Outlook Express. In short, Windows Mail simply
works!

Below you will find my step-by-step tutorial for configuring your
Windows7 computer to begin using Windows Mail. To complete this task you
will have to make changes to the Windows7 registry, but if you carefully
follow the instructions below you should not have any problems. To further
insure the integrity and stability of the Windows7 operating system, it is
also of the highest importance you do not take any shortcuts in this
tutorial. If you feel you're a computer whiz and following instructions
does
not apply to you, please seriously consider skipping this tutorial
altogether and maybe seek out a different solution.

To make completion of this tutorial a bit easier, I suggest you
consider using an audio recorder such as the Victor Reader Stream to
record
the tutorial line by line. When executing each of the steps below, in the
event you may need to review information, you can quickly rewind the audio
rather than repeatedly switching back and forth between windows.
Performing
this step is of course entirely up to you, but for a procedure like this I
would not want to take any chances I may forget a step.

Important! Very! Important!
I have gone out of my way to assure accuracy of this information but
computers are finiky and anything can happen. By taking even the slightest
action based on any of the information presented below, you are taking
matters into your own hands and cannot hold me responsible for your errors
or random mishaps resulting from this procedure. Only attempt this
procedure
if you are confident you can successfully complete the entire process. I
will also inform you that you will need to use an Administrator account to
complete this tutorial. Furthermore, you will want to read through this
tutorial in its entirety to compare your technical skills with the demands
of this procedure. This is not a very demanding task but it does require a
bit of technical familiarity with the Windows operating system.

This tutorial consists of two parts. The first part is the actual
procedure of configuring the Windows7 operating system to enable the use
of
Windows Mail. The second part of this tutorial consists of a collection of
mini-tutorials for configuring Windows Mail accounts and configuring
maximum
accessibility. This procedure can be completed on Windows7 32-bit and
64-bit
operating systems. I have primarily performed this procedure on Windos7
Home
Premium operating systems, and others have reported success on the
professional and related versions of windows7.

It is very important you determine the version of Windows7 you are
using; especially when it comes to completing step #16 below. To do so,
press the Windows key + the pause/break key. The Pause/Break key is the
third key in the three-pack of keys at the very top right hand corner of a
standard 104-key keyboard. Use your screen reader's mouse cursor key such
as
the JAWS cursor to read this entire screen from top to bottom. About 15
lines from the top of the screen you will find the text verifying the
version of Windows you are using (E.G.: System type: 64-bit Operating
System). Press Alt + F4 to close the System properties window.

Note: To quickly review the various sections of this tutorial simply use
your word processor's find feature to search for the following characters:
`1 or `2. The grave accent key is the key right under the escape key on a
standard keyboard. Search for `1 to find major sections of this tutorial
and
search for `2 to locate the individual tutorials.

`1Part 1: Windows Mail on Windows7

`2To tweak Windows7 to use Windows Mail:
1. Create an image of your hard drive in the event something goes horribly
wrong--though nothing should go wrong. If you do not have a means of
creating an image of your hard drive then use System Restore to create a
Restore Point so you can return to a good working version of your Windows7
OS. Do the following to create a restore point:
A. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and type the
following and press the enter key: Create a restore point.
B. Tab about 5 times or until you get to the following item and press the
enter key: Create....
C. Type a descriptive name such as "BeforeWindowsMailTweak" and press the
enter key. Wait a few seconds for the process to complete.
D. Follow any remaining dialogues and when finished press Alt + F4 to
close
the System Protection utility.

2. If you are currently using Windows Live Mail or a similar email client
make sure you backup all of your email-related files and folders. To
determine where these folders are located do the following:
A. In Windows Live Mail press Alt + letter T for Tools then up arrow and
press enter on Options.
B. Press Control + Shift + the Tab key once to get to the "Advanced tab."
Tab to Maintenance... and press enter.
C. In the Maintenance dialog box tab to the following option and press
enter: Store Folder....
D. Tab to the following edit field: Your personal message store is located
in the following folder. You can press the home key then press Shift + the
End key to select the entire path. Note: It is the NumPad end key you
should press and not the letter N.
E. You are finished with your email client so close any open dialogues.
F. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and paste the
path you just copied into this edit field then press enter.
G. When your email client's program files folder opens you can press the
backspace key to highlight this specific folder.
H. Press Control + letter C to copy this folder and paste it in a safe
storage location such as an external hard drive. It may take a few minutes
to copy this folder since it will probably contain your entire collection
of
email messages.
Note: You can also choose to export your WLM email message stores. While
Windows Live Mail is open, press Alt + letter F to go to the file menu
then
down arrow and press enter on Export. An export wizard will launch. Use
your
screen reader's mouse cursor keys such as the JAWS cursor key to read all
screens.

3. In order to complete this tutorial you must have access to all windows
system and hidden files. To insure this you will have to make some changes
within Windows's Folder Options.
A. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and type the
following and press enter: Folder options.
B. Press Control + the Tab key once.
C. Tab once then press the Home key to highlight the first item which
happens to be Files and Folders. Down arrow through this list and press
the
spacebar to make sure the following items are modified in the manner
specified here:
Show hidden files, folders, and drives -ON
Hide empty drives in the Computer folder-OFF
Hide extensions for known file types-OFF
Hide protected operating system files-OFF
D. After you have made these modifications tab to Apply and press enter.
Tab
to Ok and press enter.
Note: when you complete this entire tutorial make sure you repeat this
process and return these settings back to their previous state.

4. After all hidden operating system files and folders are set to show via
Folder options, you will now want to backup the original Windows Mail
folder
contained within C:\Program files. The following is the exact path of the
folder you should backup:
"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail"
Note: This is the Windows mail folder you will be modifying, which is why
it
is important it is backed up in its pristine form.
Note: For Windows7 64-bit users, make sure you do not accidentally open
the
c:\Program Files (X86) folder--you do not want to open this folder at all.

5. Making some modifications to the Windows7 registry is at the heart of
this tutorial so it is important we create a backup of the registry.
A. Press Windows key + letter R to launch the Run dialogue. Type the
following and press enter: regedit
B. When the Registry editor opens press the home key.
C. Press Alt + letter F to open the file menu. Down arrow to Export....
and
press enter.
D. Give this registry backup a name such as "Before WMTweak."
E. You can press the Tab key to navigate the remainder of this dialogue
box.
When you come to the relevant option, make sure you are exporting "all" of
the registry settings. Also be mindful of where the registry backup will
be
saved--it will most likely be the Documents folder. When you are confident
you have made the correct configurations tab to Save and press enter. Wait
a
few seconds for the process to complete.
E. Press Alt + F4 to close the Registry editor.

6. At this point you should insure all extraneous applications and open
windows are closed.

7. Press enter on the DropBox link below to download the following zipped
file: Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak.zip. This zipped archive has a collection
of
6 subfolders and a copy of this tutorial. Each of these subfolders
contains
a single registry file. These registry files are easily identifiable as
they
have the .REG extension.
Here is the download link for the zipped archive:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10556184/Ryan%27s%20Windows%20Mail%20Tweak.zip

8. The file you downloaded in the previous step is a zipped file so you
must
extract the files to access them. While the zipped file is highlighted,
press the Windows Context menu key or press Shift + F10 and down arrow and
press enter on the Extract all... option. You will be presented with a
prompt asking you where you want to unzip the files. Press enter to
extract
a copy of the zipped folder to your current location. You will want to
place
the extracted folder in a location where the folder will be easily
accessible such as your C:\ drive.
Note: What I am referring to as the Windows Context menu key is also known
as the Windows Applications key or Shift + F10. These various terms and
different keyboard commands accomplish the same goal; they simulate a
right
click.

9. Within the main folder of the zipped archive you extracted in the
previous step, look for the following folder: "Take Ownership
Installation."
Inside this folder will be a single file: Take Ownership.reg. This
registry
file will allow an administrator to quickly take ownership of files for
which access is normally denied by the Windows operating system. Press
enter
on this .reg file. You should get the following prompt:
"Registry editor dialogue
Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause
components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of
this
information at C:\[path of registry file] do not add it to the registry.
Are
you sure you want to continue?
Yes button. To activate press space bar or Alt + Y."

You can tab to Yes and press enter. You should get the following
confirmation message:

"Registry editor dialogue
The keys and values contained in C:\[path of registry file] have been
successfully added to the registry.
Ok button"

Press enter on the Ok button to close this message.

10. Take a moment to verify that the "Take Ownership" registry file has
been
installed properly and has been incorporated into your Windows context
menu.
Do this by going to Windows Explorer and pressing the Windows context menu
key or Shift + F10 on any file. Down arrow through the options and one of
these choices should be: Take Ownership. Press escape to close the Windows
context menu.

11. Once again open the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak folder you downloaded
from
DropBox. Within this parent folder Arrow down to the following subfolder
and
press enter: WinMailEdit. Press enter on the single registry file:
WinMailEdit.reg. You will get the same registry editor dialogue message in
Step #9 above. Press enter on the Yes button. Press enter on the
associated
Ok button.

12. You must now remove some attributes of the winmail.exe file using the
Run dialogue. The "Attrib" command below is used to display, set, or
remove
one or more of the four attributes (read-only, archive, system, and
hidden)
that can be assigned to files and directories. This command is typically
used to remove read-only, hidden, and system attributes so a file can be
moved or deleted or to set them so that it can't. For our purposes the
command will prevent possible conflicts with Windows updates and will
prevent unnecessarily running the system file check command: "sfc
/scannow."
You will implement the disabling of attributes for the specific file of
interest in the next step below. For now, select the next single line of
text and copy it to your clipboard by using the Control + letter C
keyboard
command.

attrib -s -h "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe"

Launch the Run dialogue by pressing Windows key + letter R. If the Run
dialogue does not present itself go to the start menu search box and type
the following and press the enter key: run. Press Control + Letter V to
paste the line of text you just copied into this run dialogue. Use your
say
line command to confirm that you definitely copied and pasted the correct
line of text. Press the enter key to complete this procedure. Do not worry
if after 10 seconds or so you do not get a confirmation message whatsoever
or if your computer did not respond in any way. Simply press Alt + Tab if
necessary to switch tasks and go to the next step.

13. Follow this path to open the correct Windows Mail folder. Please pay
very close attention to every segment of this path.: C:\Program
files\Windows Mail. Here it is again in slow motion:
C:\
Program Files\
Windows Mail\
Note: Windows7 64-bit users, I remind you, make sure you completely ignore
the following folder: Program Files (X86). Do not open this folder at all.

14. Down arrow to the following file: msoe.dll.
Note: Screen readers do not always read files as one would like, so I will
take this single opportunity to rewrite the name of the file in all caps
to
insure you focus on and highlight the correct file. The correct file to be
modified is named: MSOE.dll. You can also press F2 on the file and read
the
name of the file character by character. Press the escape key to cancel
the
F2 rename command.

15. With the msoe.dll file selected, press your Windows context menu key
(Shift + F10) and down arrow to "Take Ownership" and hit the enter key.
You
will not receive a confirmation message at all but be assured the process
has definitely taken place. You have now taken ownership of MSOE.dll.

16. Follow instruction set A or B below for your specific 32-bit version
or
for 64-bit version of windows7 respectively.

(A) Instructions for Windows7 32-bit
If you are using Windows7 32-bit go to the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak
folder
you downloaded and open the following subfolder: "Windows Mail 32 bit
version of msoe.dll." Press Control + letter C to copy the single file
named: msoe.dll. Press Alt + Tab to return focus to the c:\Program
files\Windows Mail folder and use Control + letter V to paste the file
inside this folder. You will be presented with a prompt informing you that
a
file with the same name already exists in this location. Tab once to the
"Copy and Replace button" and press enter. You will not be presented with
any other prompts so move on to the next step as you've already completed
the most difficult part of this tutorial.

(B) Instructions for Windows7 64-bit
If you are using Windows7 64-bit go to the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak
folder
you downloaded and open the following subfolder: "Windows Mail 64 bit
version of msoe.dll." Press Control + letter C to copy the single file
named: msoe.dll. Press Alt + Tab to return focus to the c:\Program
files\Windows Mail folder and use Control + letter V to paste the file
inside this folder. You will be presented with a prompt informing you that
a
file with the same name already exists in this location. Tab once to the
"Copy and Replace button" and press enter. You will not be presented with
any other prompts so go on to the next step because you have already
completed the most difficult part of this tutorial.

17. Close the Windows Mail folder by pressing Alt + F4.

18. Go into the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak parent folder and open the
following subfolder: "Set WinMailDefault." Press enter on the single
registry file: Set WinMailDefault.reg. You will get the same registry
editor
confirmation message described in step #9 above. The yes button should be
highlighted so press enter on it. Press enter on the accompanying Ok
button.

`1Configuring Windows Mail to Open All .EML Files

To be on the safe side, you will want to manually associate all email
files
containing the .EML file extension to open with Windows Mail. After
completing these steps below Windows Mail should behave just as if it were
the default email client installed with Windows7. In other words, when you
press enter on a file which has the .EML file extension, Windows mail will
open this file rather than your previous email client.

`2To associate .EML files with Windows Mail:
1. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and type the
following then press enter: default programs.
2. Tab four times or until you reach the following item and press the
enter
key: Set your default programs.
3. Tab twice or until you get to a list view of programs. Press the letter
W
repeatedly or down arrow through this entire list until you find Windows
Mail.
Note: Please be very careful you do not select Windows Live Mail.
4. Tab to the following item and press enter: Choose defaults for this
program.
5. Tab once or until you get to the Select all checkbox. Press spacebar on
this checkbox to enable it.
6. Tab to the Save button and press enter. Tab to Ok and press enter.
7. close any remaining open windows by pressing Alt + F4.

`1Placing Windows Mail on the Start menu

Jump Lists are used extensively in Windows7. A Jump List is like a small
recently opened files menu. If you press the Windows key and down arrow
through your start menu and find you have a Windows Live Mail submenu,
this
is an example of a Jump List. You will want to unpin the WLM Jump List
from
the Start menu since you will no longer have any use for it. You will be
replacing this with a Windows Mail Jump List which will give you quick
access to many of your recently saved email messages. Keep in mind it
won't
open all previously read email messages, it will only open email messages
you have saved to your hard drive.

`2To create a Windows Mail Jump List:
1. You will first need to unpin the Windows Live Mail Jump List from your
Start menu. To accomplish this simply press the Windows key and down arrow
until you find the Windows Live mail submenu.
2. Press your Windows context menu key and down arrow to the following
item
and press enter: Remove from this list.
3. After pressing the escape key a couple of times to close any unwanted
windows, press the Windows key and down arrow through the entire Start
menu
to verify the Windows Live Mail submenu entry is not present. If you do
not
find it then you have successfully removed it.
4. We will now add a similar Windows Mail submenu Jump List to the Start
menu. Find your way to the following folder:
C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\
Note: For Windows7 64-bit users, make sure you do not mistakenly open the
Program files (X86) folder.
4. In this Windows Mail folder locate the following file which will
probably
be the last file in this folder: WinMail.exe. Review the file name and
verify you have highlighted the correct file.
5. Press the Windows Context menu key (Or Shift + F10) and down arrow to
the
following item and press enter: Pin to Start menu.
6. Press the Windows key and down arrow until you locate the following
item:
Windows Mail submenu. If you find this item you have successfully
completed
this part of the tutorial.
7. Open this Windows Mail Jump List by using the right arrow key, and if
you
down arrow you will most likely find a list of recently saved email
messages. You can press enter on any of these messages to read them.
Note: at times JAWS does not read Start menu submenus properly, so you may
have to unload JAWS by pressing Insert + F4 then reload it again by
pressing
your JAWS hotkey.
8. To place this Windows Mail Jump List at the top of the Start menu use
your Screen reader's Drag and Drop command. Using JAWS you would highlight
the Windows Mail submenu entry, press Control + Insert + Numpad slash (/),
up arrow to a nice convenient location on the Start menu, and hit the JAWS
Drag and Drop command once again. You should be given a confirmation
message
that the process has completed successfully.
Note: if you open the Windows Mail Jump List and attempt to open a saved
email message which has recently been deleted, you will be presented with
the following message:

"Problem with Shortcut
The item X that this shortcut refers to has been changed or moved, so this
shortcut will no longer work properly.
Do you want to delete this shortcut?
Yes No."

I simply hit letter N for No and essentially ignore this message as I
already know I have deleted the message.

`1Creating a Windows Mail Shortcut on the Desktop

The final step in Part 1 of this tutorial is to create a shortcut and
attach
a hotkey for the purpose of quickly launching Windows Mail

`2To create a Windows Mail Desktop shortcut:
1. Go to the run dialogue and type the following path then press enter:
c:\program files\windows mail\
Note: you can simply copy and paste the path into the Run dialogue and
press
enter.
2. Find the following file (it will probably be at the bottom of this
folder): WinMail.exe.
3. Press the Windows Context menu key (or press Shift F10). Down arrow to
the following item and press enter: Send to submenu. Down arrow to the
following item and press enter: Desktop create shortcut.
4. Press Windows key + letter D to be taken to the Desktop. Press the
letter
W until you find the Windows Mail shortcut you just created. Press Alt +
the
enter key on this icon to open its Properties dialogue box. Tab twice or
until you reach the edit field where you can type your desired hotkey.
After
entering your desired hotkey tab once and down arrow to maximize. Tab to
Apply and press enter. Tab through this dialogue once again to insure your
settings are correct then press enter on Ok.
5. Test your hotkey.
6. You can rename the desktop shortcut by highlighting it and pressing F2.
When you are finished typing a new name for your shortcut press enter.
7. In order to prevent the accidental launch of your previous email
client,
be sure you review the shortcut properties of your previous email
application as well as its reference within the All Programs submenu and
remove any attached hotkey. Desktop icons and entries in the All Programs
menu are common locations used to configure hotkeys.

You have now completed the entire process of configuring Windows7 to begin
using Windows mail. Enjoy your new incredibly stable, accessible, and
responsive Email client!

`1Part 2: Creating Accounts - Accessibility - Gmail - Message Rules

Now that Windows Mail is properly installed on your computer the sections
below will walk you through making a few more modifications. You will
launch
Windows Mail for the first time and create your default email account. You
will make some accessibility related configurations. You will configure
Windows Mail to send and receive messages from your Google Gmail account.
Finally, you will create message rules to help you manage your email.

`2To configure the default email account:
1. Press Windows key + letter D to go to the Desktop.
2. Press the letter W until you find Windows Mail. Press enter on this
item.
Since this will be the first time running Windows Mail wait a few seconds
for the new account wizard to launch.
Note: using your screen reader's mouse cursor such as the JAWS cursor to
read from top to bottom each of the following screens will be very useful
in
determining the information requested of you.
3. When the new account wizard finally launches you will be presented with
the following prompt: Display name. This is an edit field where you can
type
in the name other people will see when you send them email messages. You
can
type in your name such as John Doe as it is not necessary to type in your
formal email address. After you have typed your name tab to Next and press
enter.
4. On the second screen of this wizard you will be placed on an edit field
where you must enter your full formal email address as given to you by
your
ISP (E.G.: RyanX@charter.com). When you finish entering your name tab to
Next and press enter.
5. On the third screen of this wizard you will be asked to set up your
email
servers. Press Shift + Tab once to be placed on the Incoming Email Server
Type combo box. This combo box will have two choices: POP3 or SMTP. Use
the
Up arrow or down arrow to make your selection. A POP3 account is primarily
used if you want all your email downloaded from your ISP's servers to your
computer in order to read and do as you wish. If you decide to use a POP3
account, once you download your email it will no longer exist on your
ISP's
servers. The second option is an IMap account which will also download
your
email to your computer, but it has the added advantage of keeping a copy
of
your email messages on your ISP's servers for viewing with a browser in
the
event you are away from home and would like to read your Gmail from a
friend's
house or from school. The following settings are used to create a POP3
email
account but IMap settings are very similar. When entering the information
below press the tab key to move from edit field to edit field. As you will
undoubtedly notice, the information entered in these edit fields is
specific
to Charter email. The information you will need to enter for your account
will of course vary.
Note: If you are not sure of the required information you must enter in
each
of these edit fields call your internet service provider's technical
support
line or search for the information on your ISP's Technical Support
webpage.

In the Incoming mail server edit field type the following: pop.charter.net

In the Outgoing Email Server Name edit field type the following:
smtp.charter.net

Outgoing server requires authentication (checkbox not checked).
Note: Leave this setting unchecked unless specifically instructed by your
email provider to do otherwise.

Tab through all these settings once again to confirm they are correct.
When
you are finished tab to Next and press enter.

6. On this fourth screen you will be asked to enter your internet mail log
on information., Your email user name (RyanX) will most likely be entered
automatically so do not change it. Press tab and enter your password.
Press
tab again and hit the spacebar to check the following checkbox: Remember
password. Tab to Next and press enter.
7. You have now come to the final screen in this new account wizard. This
screen is essentially a screen congratulating you on having successfully
entered all the information required to setup your default email account.
You will be placed on a checked checkbox asking you if you would like your
email downloaded after pressing enter on the Finish button. Leave this
checkbox alone. Tab to the Finish button and press enter. Tab to the Close
button and press enter.
8. Once the previous screen closes you will be placed in your Inbox. You
will find you have a single email message welcoming you to Windows Mail.
Press enter to read this message, and press escape to close it.
9. At this point you may find that your email is being downloaded, but if
you do not then try pressing F5 or Control + letter M. these hotkeys will
check for new email. After pressing this hotkey you may also be presented
with a message requesting your ISP user name. Enter your full email
address.
You will also be asked to enter your password so do so. Check the Remember
my credentials checkbox. Tab to Ok and press enter.
10. If all is well you should hear the progress of your email as it is
being
downloaded. If you are a JAWS user you can check the progress of the
download by pressing Insert + the NumPad page down key.
11. If you do not receive any email as might be the case with a new email
account, and if you want to test that your email account is configured
properly, try sending yourself an email message.
12. If the email message you sent yourself cannot be sent or does not
arrive
in your inbox within a minute or two it is time to do some
troubleshooting!

`1Troubleshooting Your New Email Account

If you are having problems either sending or receiving email you might
want
to try the following suggestions.

`2To troubleshoot problems sending and receiving email:
1. Press alt + letter t to go to the Tools menu. Press the letter A to go
to
the Internet Accounts dialogue box.
2. Press the Home key to go to the top of the list of accounts. Select the
account marked as "default."
3. Press Alt + letter P or tab to the Properties button and press enter.
4. You will be placed in the properties dialogue box for your default
account. There are five tabs beginning with General and ending with
Advanced. The following are the settings I used for each of these five
tabs.
These settings worked to correctly configure my charter email account, but
the configurations you will need for your account will undoubtedly vary.
Note: I placed the information requested of me between parentheses.
Replace
this information with your own.

General Tab Information:
Type the name by which you would like to refer to these servers. For
example: "Work" or "Windows Mail." (Optional but you can enter a unique
name
such as "Ryan" to make identifying your account easier)
User Information Name: (RyanX)
Organization: (Blank)
E-mail address: (RyanX@Charter.net)
Reply address: (Blank)
Include this account when receiving mail or synchronizing. (Check box
checked)
Note: when you finish making these changes tab to Apply and press enter.
Press Control + Tab to move to the next tab which is the Servers Tab.

Servers Tab Info:
My incoming mail server is a POP3 server.
Incoming mail POP3: pop.charter.net
Outgoing mail SMTP: smtp.charter.net
E-mail username: (It may already be entered for you. If not type your name
such as RyanX. If this doesn't work, after completing this entire process,
try typing your full email address such as RyanX@charter.net)
Password: (enter email account password for your ISP)
Remember password: (Checkbox checked)
Log on using Secure Password Authentication: (not checked)
My server requires authentication: (Not checked)
Note: when you finish making these changes tab to Apply and press enter.
Press Control + Tab to move to the next tab which is the Connection Tab.

Connection Tab info:
Note: I made 0 modifications to this tab.

Security Tab Info:
Note: I made 0 modifications to this tab.

Advanced Tab Info:
Server Port Numbers
Outgoing mail (SMTP): 25
This server requires a secure connection (SSL): (checkbox not checked)
Incoming mail (POP3): (On your computer it will most likely be 110)
This server requires a secure connection (SSL) (Checkbox not checked)
Server Timeouts slider: (Set by default to 11%--1 minute)
Break apart messages larger than 60 KB: (Checkbox not checked)
Leave a copy of messages on server: (Checkbox not checked)
Note: when you finish making these changes tab to Apply and press enter.
Tab
to Ok and press enter.

5. After closing the previous Properties dialogue box for your default
account you will be returned to the Internet Accounts Dialogue box. Simply
tab to the Close button and press enter.
6. Try sending yourself an email message to test your configurations.

If you are still unable to configure your email client for sending and
receiving email, you may have to call your ISP's Technical Support line.
You
might also want to run a Google search if you need some of these
configurations defined and or explained.

`1Adding an Additional Email Account

For those who need to create additional email accounts for family members
and alike, complete the following procedure.
Note: To fully understand this process of creating a new email account I
suggest you use your screen reader's mouse cursor keys when in the
Internet
Account dialogue box. Reading the entire screen using the JAWS cursor and
alike will lessen confusion and can help you successfully complete this
process.

`2To add email accounts in Windows Mail:
1. From your Inbox press Alt + letter T to go to the Tools menu.
2. Press letter A to go to the Internet Accounts dialogue box.
3. Tab to the Add... button and press enter.
4. On the first screen of this wizard you will be placed on the What type
of
account would you like to add combo box. Make sure Email Account is
selected. Tab to the "Next" button and press enter.
5. On the second screen of this wizard you will be placed on an edit
field.
Type your name as you would like others to see it when your email arrives
in
their Inbox. If there is text already in this edit field simply type over
it. Tab to Next and press enter.
6. On the Third screen you will be expected to enter your full email
address
such as RyanY@charter.net. Tab to Next and press enter.
7. On the fourth screen you will be required to setup email servers. Enter
the following information:
Incoming Email server type: POP3
Incoming mail POP3 or IMAP server: POP.Charter.net
Outgoing e-mail server SMTP name: SMTP.charter.net
Outgoing server requires authentication: (Leave checkbox unchecked)
Make sure you tab through these server settings once again to insure you
correctly entered all required information. Tab to Next and press enter.
8. On the fifth screen you will be expected to provide a valid user name
and
password. For example, RyanY as well as the password associated with this
account. Tab to the Remember Password checkbox and check it. Tab to Next
and
press enter.
9. On the sixth screen of this wizard you will be presented with a message
congratulating you for successfully configuring your new email account.
Tab
to the Finish button and press enter.
10. Tab to the Close button and press enter.
11. Press F5 or press Control + letter M to check for new email.
12. Test your settings by sending yourself an email message.

`1Windows Mail Accessibility Configurations

For those of you who have used Outlook Express in the past, the following
accessibility related modifications will be very familiar to you. You will
make changes to the Layout within the View menu, and you will make many
modifications within the Tools/Options multipage dialogue box.

`2To modify the Windows Mail Layout:
1. Press Alt + letter V to go to the View menu.
2. Press the letter L to go to Layout....
3. The first item will be the Folder bar. Make sure this is not checked.
If
it is checked press the spacebar to uncheck this item.
4. Press the tab key to move through the next few items on this screen.
The
last item will probably be Show Preview Pane. Press spacebar to uncheck
this
item.
5. Tab to Apply and press enter. Tab to Ok and press enter.

`2To complete View menu modifications:
1. Press Alt + letter V to open the View menu.
2. The first option is the Current View submenu. Press enter on this item.
The default setting is Show all messages. I choose to hide my read
messages,
so I down arrow once to the Hide read messages option and press enter. The
menu will close and you will be placed back in your inbox. I hide all of
my
read messages because when new messages arrive in my inbox they are at
times
mixed in with previously read messages. This makes it difficult for me to
quickly read through my email. If you do not need nor like this setting
simply repeat this process and select the Show all messages option.
3. Press the letter V to open the View menu once again. Down arrow to the
Sort by submenu and press enter. These settings will help you configure
how
your messages are displayed. Press down arrow to move through the
available
settings. Press enter to check or uncheck any of these settings--the menu
will then close. You will want to experiment with these items to find the
settings that best meet your needs. The setting I suggest you seriously
consider is Sort Ascending. This item will change the order of your
messages
to place the oldest messages at the top of the list and the newest
messages
at the bottom of the list. In day to day use this insures you read
messages
in the order they arrived in your inbox

`1General Windows Mail Configurations

The following configurations will help you customize how your messages are
sent, received, composed, etc.

`2To configure Windows Mail Options:
1. Press Alt + letter T for Tools then press letter O for Options.
2. You will be placed on the General Tab of this multi-page dialogue box.
You are free to configure the following Windows Mail settings as you wish,
but I have found the following specific settings provide me great ease of
use and great screen reader accessibility.
Note: press the spacebar to check and uncheck the settings below.

General tab settings:
Notify me if there are any new newsgroups. (I unchecked this)
Use newsgroup message rating features. (I unchecked this)
Play sound when new messages arrive. (I checked this)
Send and receive messages at startup. (I checked this)
Check for new messages every: (I checked this. I pressed the tab key once
and used up and down arrow to set to 10 minutes.
If my computer is not connected at this time combo box: (I set to do not
connect)
Note: If you use your screen reader's mouse cursor key such as the JAWS
cursor, and if you read the bottom of this general tab screen, you will
find
the following information which confirms Windows Mail to be your default
email client.
"Default Messaging Programs
This application is the default Mail handler. (Make default unavailable)."
You can now tab to Apply and press enter. Press Control + Tab to move to
the
Read tab.

Read tab settings:
Mark message read after displaying for: (Important: uncheck this item)
Automatically expand grouped messages. (Unchecked)
Automatically download message when viewing in the Preview Pane.
(unchecked)
You can now tab to Apply and press enter. Press Control + Tab to move to
the
Receipts tab.

Receipts tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move
to
the Send tab.

Send tab settings:
Most of the default Send tab settings are set just fine and do not require
modification. The one change I suggest you seriously consider is the
sending
and receiving of email messages in plain text rather than in HTML. To do
so
do the following:
A. Press the tab key about six times or until you find the following
setting: Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent. Press
the spacebar to Uncheck this checkbox.
B. Press the Tab key twice or until you find the first radio button. Press
down arrow to select Plain text.
C. Press the tab key about three times or until you find the next radio
button. Press down arrow to select Plain text.
D. Tab to Apply and press the spacebar. Press Control + Tab to move to the
Compose tab.
Note: after these plain text modifications are made you will still have
the ability to activate a link by pressing enter on the link contained
within the email message.

Compose tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move
to
the Signature tab.

Signature tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move
to
the Spelling tab.

Spelling tab settings:
Always check spelling before sending. (Check this item)
The original text in a reply or forward. (Check this)
Internet Addresses. (Check this)
You can now tab to Apply and press enter. Press Control + Tab to move to
the
Security tab.

Security tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move
to
the Connection tab.

Connection tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move
to
the Advanced tab.

Advanced settings tab:
There is only one item of significance here: Maintenance.... Press the tab
key until you locate this item and press enter. This dialogue box can be
used to configure many different email related maintenance tools. Press
the
tab key to move through these items and decide which settings are
important
to you. The following are two important settings:
A. Empty messages from the 'Deleted Items' folder on exit. I often quickly
read through my messages and press the delete key to delete messages I
want
to temporarily save in the deleted items folder. For messages I want to
permanently delete, while the messages are highlighted, I simply press
Shift
+ Delete key and they are gone for good. This process affords me a bit of
insurance that I did not permanently delete a message that may prove to be
useful in the near future. Ultimately I either move messages in the
deleted
items folder to other folders for permanent storage, or I select all the
messages and permanently delete them by pressing Shift + Delete key as I
have described above. If you have chosen to modify this setting simply tab
to Close and press enter. Tab to Ok and press enter.
B. Store folder.... Pressing enter on this item will show you where your
email related folders are stored. Once this dialogue opens you need only
tab
twice or until you come to an edit field that contains the path to your
message stores. Note that in this dialogue box you can change the default
location where your messages are stored. This is beneficial if you want
your
messages to be stored on a different partition than the partition that
holds
your operating system. Press Ok or escape to close this dialogue box.
Press
close or escape on the Maintenance dialogue box. Press Ok or escape on the
Advanced tab dialogue box.

Congratulations! You have now completed making all of your Windows Mail
accessibility Configurations! You should now find Windows Mail incredibly
easy to use and almost completely indistinguishable from Outlook Express.

`1Configuring a Google Gmail Account

The following should help you configure Windows Mail to receive your
Google
Gmail.
Note: The following instructions are based on the assumption that you have
already configured a working Gmail account via the Google website.

`2To Launch the New Internet Account Wizard for configuring your Gmail
account:
1. Close all applications. Launch Windows mail by using the Desktop icon
or
your Windows mail hotkey.
2. While in the Inbox press Alt + letter T to open the Tools menu then
press
letter A to open the Internet Accounts dialogue box.
3. Tab to Add... and press enter. The Internet Connection wizard will
launch.
Note: using your screen reader's mouse cursor such as the JAWS cursor to
read each of the following screens in their entirety will help you
understand the information requested of you.
4. On the first screen of this wizard you will be asked: What type of
account would you like to add? Use your up and down arrow keys to select
Email (this will be the default option). Press the Tab key and press enter
on Next.
5. The second screen of this wizard will present the following prompt:
Display name. This is an edit field where you can type in the name other
people will see when you send them email messages. You can type in your
name
such as John Doe as it is not necessary to type in your complete email
address. After you have completed entering your name tab to Next and press
enter.
6. On the third screen you will be on an edit field where you must enter
your full Gmail address (E.G.: RyanF@gmail.com. When you have finished tab
to Next and press enter.
7. On the fourth screen you will be asked to set up your email servers.
Press Shift + Tab once to be placed on the Incoming Email Server Type
combo
box. This combo box will have two choices: POP3 or SMTP. Use the Up arrow
or
down arrow to make your selection. I will be configuring a POP3 account
using the information immediately below.

The following settings are used to create a POP3 Gmail account but IMap
settings are very similar. When entering the information below press the
tab
key to move from edit field to edit field.

In the Incoming mail server edit field type the following: pop.gmail.com

In the Outgoing Email Server Name edit field type the following:
smtp.gmail.com

Outgoing server requires authentication (Check this checkbox)

Tab through all these settings once again to confirm they are correct.
When
you are finished tab to Next and press enter.

8. On the fifth screen of this wizard you will be asked to enter your
internet mail log on information. Your email user name (RyanF) will most
likely be entered automatically. You can manually delete the information
in
this edit field, or you can simply type over it by entering your full
Gmail
address (E.G.: RyanX@gmail.com). It is very important you enter your full
formal Gmail account email address. Press tab and enter your Gmail
password.
Press tab again and hit the spacebar to check the following checkbox:
Remember password. Tab to Next and press enter.
9. You have now come to the final screen in this new account wizard. This
screen is essentially a screen congratulating you on having successfully
entered all the information required to setup your new email account. Tab
to
the Finish button and press enter. Tab to the Close button and press
enter.
10. Once the previous screen closes you will be placed in your Inbox, but
you are not finished configuring your Gmail account just yet.
11. Press Alt + letter T to open the Tools menu then press the letter A
for
Accounts.
12. Press the Home key to go to the top of the accounts list view. Down
arrow through your accounts until you highlight the pop.gmail.com account.
13. Press Control + letter P or tab to the Properties button and press
enter.
14. After the multi-page dialogue box opens press Control + Shift + Tab
key
once. You will be placed on the Advanced tab of this dialogue box. Make
sure
to correctly enter the following Server Port Numbers in their respective
edit fields:

Outgoing mail (SMTP): 465
This server requires a secure connection (SSL): (check this checkbox)

Incoming mail (POP3): 995
This server requires a secure connection (SSL): (check this checkbox)

15. Tab to the following setting and make sure it is not checked: Leave a
copy of messages on server.
Note: this setting is optional, but I choose to download my GMail only
once.
16. These settings are very important so tab through this entire dialogue
box twice to insure you have entered the information correctly.
17. When you have verified all settings have been configured properly,
simply tab to Apply and press enter. Tab to the Close button and press
enter.
18. Press F5 or Control + letter M to check for new email. If you do not
receive any new email messages send a test message to your Gmail account
to
insure your Windows Mail settings have been configured properly.
19. If all is well you should hear the progress of your email as it is
being
downloaded. If you are a JAWS user you can check the progress of the
download by pressing Insert + the numpad page down key.

`1Creating Message Rules

Creating Message rules in windows Mail can help you sort messages into
personal folders. This is beneficial if you belong to many list serves and
would like your new downloaded messages automatically sorted into their
respective list serve folders. The following tutorial will help you create
a
personal Windows Mail folder as well as creating a message rule that will
direct new email into this specific folder.

`2To create a new email folder:
1. While in the Inbox press the new folder hotkey: Control + shift +
letter
E. You can also press Alt + letter F to open the file menu. Press the
enter
key on New.... Down arrow and press enter on Folder.... Both of these
procedures will take you to the Create folder dialogue box.
2. You will be placed on an edit field where you can type a name for the
folder you will be creating. You can name your folder anything you like,
but
you should try to limit the name of this folder to two or three words
(E.G.:
W7Starter Messages).
3. After naming what will be your personalized email folder, press the Tab
key once then press the Home key. You should here: "level 0, local folders
open." Press up arrow if you have to manually find your way to this folder
at level 0. This is a very important step so make sure you correctly
complete this step.
4. Tab through this dialogue box once again to insure all is configured
properly.
5. Tab to Ok and press enter.
6. You have now completed the process of creating a new email folder.
7. To verify that your folder has been created properly simply press
Control
+ letter Y, press the Home key once, right arrow once, then down arrow
through your list of folders or press the first few letters of your
folder.

You will now create a message rule that will tell Windows Mail to redirect
any new email messages from the W7Starters list to the W7Starter Messages
folder.

`2To create a new message rule:
1. Press alt + letter T to open the Tools menu then down arrow and press
enter on the Message rules submenu.
2. Press enter on Mail....
3. The New Mail Rule dialogue box will appear. There will be four separate
configurations to be made: 1. Select the Conditions for your rule, 2.
Select
the Actions for your rule, 3. Rule Description, and 4. Name of the rule.
4. You must first specify conditions for your rule. You will be presented
with a list view containing twelve possible conditions. Press down arrow
to
review your choices. These options can be checked and unchecked with a
press
of the spacebar. You can also check more than one condition. It is very
important to keep in mind that when it comes time to checking one of these
options, JAWS will not give you any feedback as to whether an item has
been
checked or not. JAWS will only repeat the item. Nevertheless, be assured
that in fact the selection has been made and you can tab to the next
setting. For the purposes of this tutorial, down arrow and select the
following condition: Where the Subject line contains specific words. Press
the spacebar on this item, and you should hear the condition being
repeated.
5. Tab once and you will be placed on the list view containing possible
actions to be associated with your previous condition. Since you have
already configured the message rule to take action based on the subject
line
of an email message, you will now dictate what that action should be. For
your purpose, you want to redirect new W7Starter list messages away from
your Inbox and into the W7Starter Messages folder. All messages from the
W7Starter's list have an identifying set of characters in their subject
line
(W7Starter), so you will use this information to make your configurations.
Press the spacebar to select the first option on this list: Move it to the
specified folder. Press the tab key to go to the next step.
6. While in the Rule Description edit box press up arrow until you read
the
following line of text: Apply this rule after the message arrives. Down
arrow to line #2 and press the Home key to be placed on the first
character
of this second line. Use your screen reader's Move to next word command
only
once (JAWS command is Insert + NumPad right arrow). You will now have to
bring the mouse cursor to your current location and execute a left click.
If
you are a JAWS user press Insert + NumPad minus (-) key. Follow this up
with
a single JAWS left click command which is NumPad slash (/) key. The
following dialogue box will present itself: Type specific words or a
phrase,
and click Add. Enter the following in this edit field: W7Starter. Tab to
the
Add button and press the spacebar. Tab to Ok and press the spacebar. You
will be returned to the rule description edit field. Review the second
line
of text once again to insure you read the following: Where the Subject
line
contains W7Starter. You will have to repeat a similar process for line #3.
Down arrow to the following line: Move it to the specified folder. Once
again, press the Home key. Move the cursor to the second word by using
your
screen reader's NextWord command. Press the JAWS cursor to PC cursor
command
(Insert + NumPad minus key). Follow this up with a single left click
command
which can be executed by pressing the NumPad slash (/) key. You will be
placed on the Local folders tree view. Press right arrow to open this tree
view then down arrow through your email folders until you locate the
W7Starter Messages folder. Tab to Ok and press enter. You will be returned
to the rule description edit field. Review the three lines in this edit
field to insure all values are correct. Tab to the next item to name this
rule.
7. Enter a name for your new Message rule. Tab to Ok and press enter. Tab
to
Ok once again and press enter.
8. Now that you have completed the process of creating a message rule that
will redirect messages from your Inbox to your desired folder, you need
only
wait for new messages to arrive.

`2To delete a message rule:
1. Press Alt + letter T for Tools then press the letter R or down arrow to
Message rules and press enter. Press enter on Mail....
2. You will be placed on the list of message rules. Select a rule then
press
the Delete key, or press Alt + letter R, or tab to Remove and press enter.
You will be presented with a message asking you to confirm that you want
to
delete your message rule. Press enter on the Yes button. Tab to Ok and
press
enter.
Note: you must tab to Ok and press enter or your message rule will not be
removed.

`1Indexing Your Windows Mail Messages

As a result of this tutorial, Windows Mail is now an integral part of
Windows7, but Windows7 is clueless of this fact. This can put you at a
significant disadvantage as you will not be able to run a search for email
messages saved or created after windows Mail was revived. .Windows search
Index to the rescue! The search index is a method used by Windows to track
newly created files and subsequent changes made to these files. The Index
includes many file types, but it can also be easily configured to index
files and folders not indexed by default. The following tutorial will walk
you through enlightening Windows7 about it's new email client and
associated
files. After completing the following tutorial you will be able to use the
Start menu search box to find any email message saved within your previous
email client's message stores as well as your new Windows Mail message
stores.

`2To add Windows Mail to the Search Index:
1. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and type the
following and hit enter: indexing options.
2. Tab to Modify and press enter.
Note: You may be presented with the following message:

"Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot
fulfill the messaging request. Please run Microsoft Office Outlook and
set
it as the default mail client.
OK."

You can simply press escape to close this message. You will have to press
Alt + Tab to return focus to the Indexing options dialogue box.
3. Press the tab key once or until you locate the following: Summary of
selected locations basket list view. Press down arrow to locate the
Windows
Live Mail entry.
4. Press Shift + Tab key once. The location of the Windows Live Mail
folder
will be highlighted and presented in a hierarchical tree view format. You
will also notice that this folder will have a checkbox associated with it.
Leave this item checked and arrow down once or twice to select the Windows
Mail entry. Press the spacebar to change the status of this Windows Mail
folder to checked.
5. Tab to ok and press enter. If necessary, press tab to Ok and hit enter
once again.
6. At this point the Windows search Index will begin indexing all of your
Windows Mail email messages. Depending on the number of email messages you
have accumulated, this may take a few seconds or much longer.
7. After the indexing of your messages has been completed, try running a
search for a recent email message. Press the Windows key to go to the
Start
menu search box and type the following then press down arrow to review the
results (you can also copy and paste this search syntax):
kind:email date:yesterday
As you down arrow through the search results you will be presented with a
list of email messages from your Inbox, or from your W7Starters's folder,
or
in any other folder containing saved email messages from the previous day.
Press enter to read the message. Press escape to close the message.
If you do not get any hits you may have to try variations on the "date"
filter such as
Today or lastweek.

After a little practice, you will discover using Windows Search will help
you find email messages with speed and ease you've never experienced
before.

`1Removing Take Ownership from the Windows Context menu

Now that Windows Mail has been successfully installed and configured, you
can do some minor housecleaning. You installed a utility called Take
Ownership, which allowed you to have complete access to a specific Windows
system file. You will no longer have any need for this Take Ownership
utility, so removing it from the Windows Context menu is in order.

`2To remove Take Ownership from the Windows Context menu:
1. Locate the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak folder.
2. Open the following subfolder: Take ownership Removal. Press enter on
the
single registry file: Remove Take Ownership.reg.
3. When the registry editor message is presented press enter on the Yes
button. Press enter on the Ok button.
4. Open a Windows Explorer window, open a folder, locate any file, and
press
the Windows Context menu key. Press down arrow through all of the options
to
make sure that the Take Ownership entry is no longer listed.

`1Closing Comments

As I've stated above, I've had absolutely zero problems with this process
and Windows Mail in general--it simply works. Yet, there are a few things
to
keep in mind...

1. Will I be able to use the Help files?
You will not have access to any of the Windows Mail help files. In fact,
there isn't much at all in the Help menu. This is far from a show stopper
as
Windows Mail has been around for years now, so any question you may have
can
be answered very quickly by running the most basic Google search. If you
are
an experienced Outlook Express user, you will not have any need for the
help
files. Judging from the types of messages I read on various list serves it
doesn't appear too many people are fans of the F1 key or help menus in
general anyways so this is in no way a hindrance.

2. Should I uninstall windows Live Mail?
This is a personal decision, but if you want access to all your previously
saved Windows Live Mail messages I suggest you do not uninstall it. If you
have followed every step of this tutorial you will have incapacitated WLM
to
the point that you will forget about it in a couple of weeks. In the event
you have the need to review an older email message as might be the case
with
a message relating to a purchase or an important personal email message,
you
will want access to that document. By deleting or removing your message
stores you will not have access to this information. Furthermore, by not
uninstalling your previous email client you will not have to import the
old
messages into Windows Mail as you can readily access these email messages
by
running a simple search as described above. As a small digression, after
installing Windows Mail I was so overwhelmed with its great accessibility
and stability that I instantly decided that WLM must go for good. This was
a
huge mistake because I incorrectly believed that by deleting the accounts
my
email stores would still remain. A few minutes after deleting all of my
accounts I stopped to wonder why I was hearing so much hard drive and
processor activity on my computer. I suddenly recalled the familiar sound
I
was hearing, it was the Windows index deleting entries. Awareness of what
I
had just done hit me like a ton of bricks--I had just accidentally deleted
absolutely all of my email messages. Windows was now busily removing
thousands of email message entries from its search index. Luckily I
followed
every step of this tutorial and backed up my email messages!

3. Are there any weird quirks with this Windows Mail tweak?
If you press your Windows Mail hotkey, and if you have not yet established
a
connection to the internet, you may be presented with the following
message:

"Windows Mail dialogue
Windows Mail has stopped working. A problem has caused the program to
stop
working correctly. Please close the program.
Close the program button."

This message is nothing to worry about. The solution is to first press
enter
on the Close this program button. Launch your browser such as Internet
Explorer. Confirm you are connected by running a Google search. If you are
sure you are connected to the internet press your Windows Mail hotkey once
again and your email client should open in it's normal fashion.

4. Will I still have to compact messages in windows Mail?
Yes. Like Outlook Express before it and WLM after it, you will have to
compact your email messages after opening your email client 100 times. You
will get the following message:

"Windows Mail
Windows Mail can compact the message store. This may take up to a few
minutes.
OK Cancel
Get help from communities"

Press enter on Ok for the process to begin. The entire process may take a
few seconds or a few minutes.

5. Anything else I should know?
As I stated within the tutorial, do not forget to go back into the folder
options and return the settings for hidden files and system files back to
their defaults (off). See Step #3 above.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 14:33
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Windows7, Jaws, and email


Hi Chris
I have used Thunderbird, and had such a hard time with it I switdched to
Windows Live mail. I tryed not to use llive mail because I heard so much
bad about it. Now that I have used it, I know why no one like it.
I plan to use Windows Mail, a form of outlook express. Windows 7 comes
with
it, but you have to fix it and add it to the registry.
John Sherrer

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Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Windows7, Jaws, and email

Hi all,

Just got a new laptop running Windows7.
Since I am an old user of Outlook Express, and I do not have Outlook, I am
wondering what the most accessible email client is with Jaws?
How is Windows Live Mail, or Thunderbird?

I am running the most current version of Jaws 13.

Thanks,

Chris


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Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak

Darran Ross <darran.ross@...>
 

Re: Setting up Win 7 to Use Windows Mail as described by Ryan's Windows Mail Tweaks.

Hi List.

I set out today to make the tweaks described in the below mail, but have hit upon a problem. The Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak.zip archived registry files referred to in the instructions are no longer available on Dropbox.

Is there anyone out there who would still have these files and wouldn't mind uploading them to Dropbox or Sendspace so as I could grab them and complete the changes?

You'd really be doing me a huge favour and I'd be extremely grateful to anyone in a position to help!

Many thanks.

Darran

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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: Windows7, Jaws, and email


Since John brought it up, here's the text file describing how to substitute
Windows Mail for Windows Live Mail in Windows 7.

I've done it and it works fine, almost exactly the same as Outlook Express.

However the "Get Help from Communities" do not work. Here's the text:

Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak

I am a big fan of the Microsoft windows7 operating system, but I feel
one of its weaknesses is its email client Windows Live mail. Many others who
have used Windows Live Mail (WLM) have also conveyed problems with
instability resulting in spontaneous email client crashes, interface
difficulties, and overall poor performance. Though Microsoft has released a
WLM 2011 upgrade, users have conveyed similar issues still remain.

Windows Mail was the native email client on the Windows Vista
operating system and the predecessor to Windows Live mail. After installing
Windows Mail on my Windows7 operating system I have found it exhibits
incredible stability in day to day performance. As a screen reader user I
have found Windows Mail very easy to use as the interface is almost
identical to my much adored Outlook Express. In short, Windows Mail simply
works!

Below you will find my step-by-step tutorial for configuring your
Windows7 computer to begin using Windows Mail. To complete this task you
will have to make changes to the Windows7 registry, but if you carefully
follow the instructions below you should not have any problems. To further
insure the integrity and stability of the Windows7 operating system, it is
also of the highest importance you do not take any shortcuts in this
tutorial. If you feel you're a computer whiz and following instructions does
not apply to you, please seriously consider skipping this tutorial
altogether and maybe seek out a different solution.

To make completion of this tutorial a bit easier, I suggest you
consider using an audio recorder such as the Victor Reader Stream to record
the tutorial line by line. When executing each of the steps below, in the
event you may need to review information, you can quickly rewind the audio
rather than repeatedly switching back and forth between windows. Performing
this step is of course entirely up to you, but for a procedure like this I
would not want to take any chances I may forget a step.

Important! Very! Important!
I have gone out of my way to assure accuracy of this information but
computers are finiky and anything can happen. By taking even the slightest
action based on any of the information presented below, you are taking
matters into your own hands and cannot hold me responsible for your errors
or random mishaps resulting from this procedure. Only attempt this procedure
if you are confident you can successfully complete the entire process. I
will also inform you that you will need to use an Administrator account to
complete this tutorial. Furthermore, you will want to read through this
tutorial in its entirety to compare your technical skills with the demands
of this procedure. This is not a very demanding task but it does require a
bit of technical familiarity with the Windows operating system.

This tutorial consists of two parts. The first part is the actual
procedure of configuring the Windows7 operating system to enable the use of
Windows Mail. The second part of this tutorial consists of a collection of
mini-tutorials for configuring Windows Mail accounts and configuring maximum
accessibility. This procedure can be completed on Windows7 32-bit and 64-bit
operating systems. I have primarily performed this procedure on Windos7 Home
Premium operating systems, and others have reported success on the
professional and related versions of windows7.

It is very important you determine the version of Windows7 you are
using; especially when it comes to completing step #16 below. To do so,
press the Windows key + the pause/break key. The Pause/Break key is the
third key in the three-pack of keys at the very top right hand corner of a
standard 104-key keyboard. Use your screen reader's mouse cursor key such as
the JAWS cursor to read this entire screen from top to bottom. About 15
lines from the top of the screen you will find the text verifying the
version of Windows you are using (E.G.: System type: 64-bit Operating
System). Press Alt + F4 to close the System properties window.

Note: To quickly review the various sections of this tutorial simply use
your word processor's find feature to search for the following characters:
`1 or `2. The grave accent key is the key right under the escape key on a
standard keyboard. Search for `1 to find major sections of this tutorial and
search for `2 to locate the individual tutorials.

`1Part 1: Windows Mail on Windows7

`2To tweak Windows7 to use Windows Mail:
1. Create an image of your hard drive in the event something goes horribly
wrong--though nothing should go wrong. If you do not have a means of
creating an image of your hard drive then use System Restore to create a
Restore Point so you can return to a good working version of your Windows7
OS. Do the following to create a restore point:
A. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and type the
following and press the enter key: Create a restore point.
B. Tab about 5 times or until you get to the following item and press the
enter key: Create....
C. Type a descriptive name such as "BeforeWindowsMailTweak" and press the
enter key. Wait a few seconds for the process to complete.
D. Follow any remaining dialogues and when finished press Alt + F4 to close
the System Protection utility.

2. If you are currently using Windows Live Mail or a similar email client
make sure you backup all of your email-related files and folders. To
determine where these folders are located do the following:
A. In Windows Live Mail press Alt + letter T for Tools then up arrow and
press enter on Options.
B. Press Control + Shift + the Tab key once to get to the "Advanced tab."
Tab to Maintenance... and press enter.
C. In the Maintenance dialog box tab to the following option and press
enter: Store Folder....
D. Tab to the following edit field: Your personal message store is located
in the following folder. You can press the home key then press Shift + the
End key to select the entire path. Note: It is the NumPad end key you
should press and not the letter N.
E. You are finished with your email client so close any open dialogues.
F. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and paste the
path you just copied into this edit field then press enter.
G. When your email client's program files folder opens you can press the
backspace key to highlight this specific folder.
H. Press Control + letter C to copy this folder and paste it in a safe
storage location such as an external hard drive. It may take a few minutes
to copy this folder since it will probably contain your entire collection of
email messages.
Note: You can also choose to export your WLM email message stores. While
Windows Live Mail is open, press Alt + letter F to go to the file menu then
down arrow and press enter on Export. An export wizard will launch. Use your
screen reader's mouse cursor keys such as the JAWS cursor key to read all
screens.

3. In order to complete this tutorial you must have access to all windows
system and hidden files. To insure this you will have to make some changes
within Windows's Folder Options.
A. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and type the
following and press enter: Folder options.
B. Press Control + the Tab key once.
C. Tab once then press the Home key to highlight the first item which
happens to be Files and Folders. Down arrow through this list and press the
spacebar to make sure the following items are modified in the manner
specified here:
Show hidden files, folders, and drives -ON
Hide empty drives in the Computer folder-OFF
Hide extensions for known file types-OFF
Hide protected operating system files-OFF
D. After you have made these modifications tab to Apply and press enter. Tab
to Ok and press enter.
Note: when you complete this entire tutorial make sure you repeat this
process and return these settings back to their previous state.

4. After all hidden operating system files and folders are set to show via
Folder options, you will now want to backup the original Windows Mail folder
contained within C:\Program files. The following is the exact path of the
folder you should backup:
"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail"
Note: This is the Windows mail folder you will be modifying, which is why it
is important it is backed up in its pristine form.
Note: For Windows7 64-bit users, make sure you do not accidentally open the
c:\Program Files (X86) folder--you do not want to open this folder at all.

5. Making some modifications to the Windows7 registry is at the heart of
this tutorial so it is important we create a backup of the registry.
A. Press Windows key + letter R to launch the Run dialogue. Type the
following and press enter: regedit
B. When the Registry editor opens press the home key.
C. Press Alt + letter F to open the file menu. Down arrow to Export.... and
press enter.
D. Give this registry backup a name such as "Before WMTweak."
E. You can press the Tab key to navigate the remainder of this dialogue box.
When you come to the relevant option, make sure you are exporting "all" of
the registry settings. Also be mindful of where the registry backup will be
saved--it will most likely be the Documents folder. When you are confident
you have made the correct configurations tab to Save and press enter. Wait a
few seconds for the process to complete.
E. Press Alt + F4 to close the Registry editor.

6. At this point you should insure all extraneous applications and open
windows are closed.

7. Press enter on the DropBox link below to download the following zipped
file: Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak.zip. This zipped archive has a collection of
6 subfolders and a copy of this tutorial. Each of these subfolders contains
a single registry file. These registry files are easily identifiable as they
have the .REG extension.
Here is the download link for the zipped archive:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10556184/Ryan%27s%20Windows%20Mail%20Tweak.zip

8. The file you downloaded in the previous step is a zipped file so you must
extract the files to access them. While the zipped file is highlighted,
press the Windows Context menu key or press Shift + F10 and down arrow and
press enter on the Extract all... option. You will be presented with a
prompt asking you where you want to unzip the files. Press enter to extract
a copy of the zipped folder to your current location. You will want to place
the extracted folder in a location where the folder will be easily
accessible such as your C:\ drive.
Note: What I am referring to as the Windows Context menu key is also known
as the Windows Applications key or Shift + F10. These various terms and
different keyboard commands accomplish the same goal; they simulate a right
click.

9. Within the main folder of the zipped archive you extracted in the
previous step, look for the following folder: "Take Ownership Installation."
Inside this folder will be a single file: Take Ownership.reg. This registry
file will allow an administrator to quickly take ownership of files for
which access is normally denied by the Windows operating system. Press enter
on this .reg file. You should get the following prompt:
"Registry editor dialogue
Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause
components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of this
information at C:\[path of registry file] do not add it to the registry. Are
you sure you want to continue?
Yes button. To activate press space bar or Alt + Y."

You can tab to Yes and press enter. You should get the following
confirmation message:

"Registry editor dialogue
The keys and values contained in C:\[path of registry file] have been
successfully added to the registry.
Ok button"

Press enter on the Ok button to close this message.

10. Take a moment to verify that the "Take Ownership" registry file has been
installed properly and has been incorporated into your Windows context menu.
Do this by going to Windows Explorer and pressing the Windows context menu
key or Shift + F10 on any file. Down arrow through the options and one of
these choices should be: Take Ownership. Press escape to close the Windows
context menu.

11. Once again open the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak folder you downloaded from
DropBox. Within this parent folder Arrow down to the following subfolder and
press enter: WinMailEdit. Press enter on the single registry file:
WinMailEdit.reg. You will get the same registry editor dialogue message in
Step #9 above. Press enter on the Yes button. Press enter on the associated
Ok button.

12. You must now remove some attributes of the winmail.exe file using the
Run dialogue. The "Attrib" command below is used to display, set, or remove
one or more of the four attributes (read-only, archive, system, and hidden)
that can be assigned to files and directories. This command is typically
used to remove read-only, hidden, and system attributes so a file can be
moved or deleted or to set them so that it can't. For our purposes the
command will prevent possible conflicts with Windows updates and will
prevent unnecessarily running the system file check command: "sfc /scannow."
You will implement the disabling of attributes for the specific file of
interest in the next step below. For now, select the next single line of
text and copy it to your clipboard by using the Control + letter C keyboard
command.

attrib -s -h "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe"

Launch the Run dialogue by pressing Windows key + letter R. If the Run
dialogue does not present itself go to the start menu search box and type
the following and press the enter key: run. Press Control + Letter V to
paste the line of text you just copied into this run dialogue. Use your say
line command to confirm that you definitely copied and pasted the correct
line of text. Press the enter key to complete this procedure. Do not worry
if after 10 seconds or so you do not get a confirmation message whatsoever
or if your computer did not respond in any way. Simply press Alt + Tab if
necessary to switch tasks and go to the next step.

13. Follow this path to open the correct Windows Mail folder. Please pay
very close attention to every segment of this path.: C:\Program
files\Windows Mail. Here it is again in slow motion:
C:\
Program Files\
Windows Mail\
Note: Windows7 64-bit users, I remind you, make sure you completely ignore
the following folder: Program Files (X86). Do not open this folder at all.

14. Down arrow to the following file: msoe.dll.
Note: Screen readers do not always read files as one would like, so I will
take this single opportunity to rewrite the name of the file in all caps to
insure you focus on and highlight the correct file. The correct file to be
modified is named: MSOE.dll. You can also press F2 on the file and read the
name of the file character by character. Press the escape key to cancel the
F2 rename command.

15. With the msoe.dll file selected, press your Windows context menu key
(Shift + F10) and down arrow to "Take Ownership" and hit the enter key. You
will not receive a confirmation message at all but be assured the process
has definitely taken place. You have now taken ownership of MSOE.dll.

16. Follow instruction set A or B below for your specific 32-bit version or
for 64-bit version of windows7 respectively.

(A) Instructions for Windows7 32-bit
If you are using Windows7 32-bit go to the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak folder
you downloaded and open the following subfolder: "Windows Mail 32 bit
version of msoe.dll." Press Control + letter C to copy the single file
named: msoe.dll. Press Alt + Tab to return focus to the c:\Program
files\Windows Mail folder and use Control + letter V to paste the file
inside this folder. You will be presented with a prompt informing you that a
file with the same name already exists in this location. Tab once to the
"Copy and Replace button" and press enter. You will not be presented with
any other prompts so move on to the next step as you've already completed
the most difficult part of this tutorial.

(B) Instructions for Windows7 64-bit
If you are using Windows7 64-bit go to the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak folder
you downloaded and open the following subfolder: "Windows Mail 64 bit
version of msoe.dll." Press Control + letter C to copy the single file
named: msoe.dll. Press Alt + Tab to return focus to the c:\Program
files\Windows Mail folder and use Control + letter V to paste the file
inside this folder. You will be presented with a prompt informing you that a
file with the same name already exists in this location. Tab once to the
"Copy and Replace button" and press enter. You will not be presented with
any other prompts so go on to the next step because you have already
completed the most difficult part of this tutorial.

17. Close the Windows Mail folder by pressing Alt + F4.

18. Go into the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak parent folder and open the
following subfolder: "Set WinMailDefault." Press enter on the single
registry file: Set WinMailDefault.reg. You will get the same registry editor
confirmation message described in step #9 above. The yes button should be
highlighted so press enter on it. Press enter on the accompanying Ok button.

`1Configuring Windows Mail to Open All .EML Files

To be on the safe side, you will want to manually associate all email files
containing the .EML file extension to open with Windows Mail. After
completing these steps below Windows Mail should behave just as if it were
the default email client installed with Windows7. In other words, when you
press enter on a file which has the .EML file extension, Windows mail will
open this file rather than your previous email client.

`2To associate .EML files with Windows Mail:
1. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and type the
following then press enter: default programs.
2. Tab four times or until you reach the following item and press the enter
key: Set your default programs.
3. Tab twice or until you get to a list view of programs. Press the letter W
repeatedly or down arrow through this entire list until you find Windows
Mail.
Note: Please be very careful you do not select Windows Live Mail.
4. Tab to the following item and press enter: Choose defaults for this
program.
5. Tab once or until you get to the Select all checkbox. Press spacebar on
this checkbox to enable it.
6. Tab to the Save button and press enter. Tab to Ok and press enter.
7. close any remaining open windows by pressing Alt + F4.

`1Placing Windows Mail on the Start menu

Jump Lists are used extensively in Windows7. A Jump List is like a small
recently opened files menu. If you press the Windows key and down arrow
through your start menu and find you have a Windows Live Mail submenu, this
is an example of a Jump List. You will want to unpin the WLM Jump List from
the Start menu since you will no longer have any use for it. You will be
replacing this with a Windows Mail Jump List which will give you quick
access to many of your recently saved email messages. Keep in mind it won't
open all previously read email messages, it will only open email messages
you have saved to your hard drive.

`2To create a Windows Mail Jump List:
1. You will first need to unpin the Windows Live Mail Jump List from your
Start menu. To accomplish this simply press the Windows key and down arrow
until you find the Windows Live mail submenu.
2. Press your Windows context menu key and down arrow to the following item
and press enter: Remove from this list.
3. After pressing the escape key a couple of times to close any unwanted
windows, press the Windows key and down arrow through the entire Start menu
to verify the Windows Live Mail submenu entry is not present. If you do not
find it then you have successfully removed it.
4. We will now add a similar Windows Mail submenu Jump List to the Start
menu. Find your way to the following folder:
C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\
Note: For Windows7 64-bit users, make sure you do not mistakenly open the
Program files (X86) folder.
4. In this Windows Mail folder locate the following file which will probably
be the last file in this folder: WinMail.exe. Review the file name and
verify you have highlighted the correct file.
5. Press the Windows Context menu key (Or Shift + F10) and down arrow to the
following item and press enter: Pin to Start menu.
6. Press the Windows key and down arrow until you locate the following item:
Windows Mail submenu. If you find this item you have successfully completed
this part of the tutorial.
7. Open this Windows Mail Jump List by using the right arrow key, and if you
down arrow you will most likely find a list of recently saved email
messages. You can press enter on any of these messages to read them.
Note: at times JAWS does not read Start menu submenus properly, so you may
have to unload JAWS by pressing Insert + F4 then reload it again by pressing
your JAWS hotkey.
8. To place this Windows Mail Jump List at the top of the Start menu use
your Screen reader's Drag and Drop command. Using JAWS you would highlight
the Windows Mail submenu entry, press Control + Insert + Numpad slash (/),
up arrow to a nice convenient location on the Start menu, and hit the JAWS
Drag and Drop command once again. You should be given a confirmation message
that the process has completed successfully.
Note: if you open the Windows Mail Jump List and attempt to open a saved
email message which has recently been deleted, you will be presented with
the following message:

"Problem with Shortcut
The item X that this shortcut refers to has been changed or moved, so this
shortcut will no longer work properly.
Do you want to delete this shortcut?
Yes No."

I simply hit letter N for No and essentially ignore this message as I
already know I have deleted the message.

`1Creating a Windows Mail Shortcut on the Desktop

The final step in Part 1 of this tutorial is to create a shortcut and attach
a hotkey for the purpose of quickly launching Windows Mail

`2To create a Windows Mail Desktop shortcut:
1. Go to the run dialogue and type the following path then press enter:
c:\program files\windows mail\
Note: you can simply copy and paste the path into the Run dialogue and press
enter.
2. Find the following file (it will probably be at the bottom of this
folder): WinMail.exe.
3. Press the Windows Context menu key (or press Shift F10). Down arrow to
the following item and press enter: Send to submenu. Down arrow to the
following item and press enter: Desktop create shortcut.
4. Press Windows key + letter D to be taken to the Desktop. Press the letter
W until you find the Windows Mail shortcut you just created. Press Alt + the
enter key on this icon to open its Properties dialogue box. Tab twice or
until you reach the edit field where you can type your desired hotkey. After
entering your desired hotkey tab once and down arrow to maximize. Tab to
Apply and press enter. Tab through this dialogue once again to insure your
settings are correct then press enter on Ok.
5. Test your hotkey.
6. You can rename the desktop shortcut by highlighting it and pressing F2.
When you are finished typing a new name for your shortcut press enter.
7. In order to prevent the accidental launch of your previous email client,
be sure you review the shortcut properties of your previous email
application as well as its reference within the All Programs submenu and
remove any attached hotkey. Desktop icons and entries in the All Programs
menu are common locations used to configure hotkeys.

You have now completed the entire process of configuring Windows7 to begin
using Windows mail. Enjoy your new incredibly stable, accessible, and
responsive Email client!

`1Part 2: Creating Accounts - Accessibility - Gmail - Message Rules

Now that Windows Mail is properly installed on your computer the sections
below will walk you through making a few more modifications. You will launch
Windows Mail for the first time and create your default email account. You
will make some accessibility related configurations. You will configure
Windows Mail to send and receive messages from your Google Gmail account.
Finally, you will create message rules to help you manage your email.

`2To configure the default email account:
1. Press Windows key + letter D to go to the Desktop.
2. Press the letter W until you find Windows Mail. Press enter on this item.
Since this will be the first time running Windows Mail wait a few seconds
for the new account wizard to launch.
Note: using your screen reader's mouse cursor such as the JAWS cursor to
read from top to bottom each of the following screens will be very useful in
determining the information requested of you.
3. When the new account wizard finally launches you will be presented with
the following prompt: Display name. This is an edit field where you can type
in the name other people will see when you send them email messages. You can
type in your name such as John Doe as it is not necessary to type in your
formal email address. After you have typed your name tab to Next and press
enter.
4. On the second screen of this wizard you will be placed on an edit field
where you must enter your full formal email address as given to you by your
ISP (E.G.: RyanX@charter.com). When you finish entering your name tab to
Next and press enter.
5. On the third screen of this wizard you will be asked to set up your email
servers. Press Shift + Tab once to be placed on the Incoming Email Server
Type combo box. This combo box will have two choices: POP3 or SMTP. Use the
Up arrow or down arrow to make your selection. A POP3 account is primarily
used if you want all your email downloaded from your ISP's servers to your
computer in order to read and do as you wish. If you decide to use a POP3
account, once you download your email it will no longer exist on your ISP's
servers. The second option is an IMap account which will also download your
email to your computer, but it has the added advantage of keeping a copy of
your email messages on your ISP's servers for viewing with a browser in the
event you are away from home and would like to read your Gmail from a friend's
house or from school. The following settings are used to create a POP3 email
account but IMap settings are very similar. When entering the information
below press the tab key to move from edit field to edit field. As you will
undoubtedly notice, the information entered in these edit fields is specific
to Charter email. The information you will need to enter for your account
will of course vary.
Note: If you are not sure of the required information you must enter in each
of these edit fields call your internet service provider's technical support
line or search for the information on your ISP's Technical Support webpage.

In the Incoming mail server edit field type the following: pop.charter.net

In the Outgoing Email Server Name edit field type the following:
smtp.charter.net

Outgoing server requires authentication (checkbox not checked).
Note: Leave this setting unchecked unless specifically instructed by your
email provider to do otherwise.

Tab through all these settings once again to confirm they are correct. When
you are finished tab to Next and press enter.

6. On this fourth screen you will be asked to enter your internet mail log
on information., Your email user name (RyanX) will most likely be entered
automatically so do not change it. Press tab and enter your password. Press
tab again and hit the spacebar to check the following checkbox: Remember
password. Tab to Next and press enter.
7. You have now come to the final screen in this new account wizard. This
screen is essentially a screen congratulating you on having successfully
entered all the information required to setup your default email account.
You will be placed on a checked checkbox asking you if you would like your
email downloaded after pressing enter on the Finish button. Leave this
checkbox alone. Tab to the Finish button and press enter. Tab to the Close
button and press enter.
8. Once the previous screen closes you will be placed in your Inbox. You
will find you have a single email message welcoming you to Windows Mail.
Press enter to read this message, and press escape to close it.
9. At this point you may find that your email is being downloaded, but if
you do not then try pressing F5 or Control + letter M. these hotkeys will
check for new email. After pressing this hotkey you may also be presented
with a message requesting your ISP user name. Enter your full email address.
You will also be asked to enter your password so do so. Check the Remember
my credentials checkbox. Tab to Ok and press enter.
10. If all is well you should hear the progress of your email as it is being
downloaded. If you are a JAWS user you can check the progress of the
download by pressing Insert + the NumPad page down key.
11. If you do not receive any email as might be the case with a new email
account, and if you want to test that your email account is configured
properly, try sending yourself an email message.
12. If the email message you sent yourself cannot be sent or does not arrive
in your inbox within a minute or two it is time to do some troubleshooting!

`1Troubleshooting Your New Email Account

If you are having problems either sending or receiving email you might want
to try the following suggestions.

`2To troubleshoot problems sending and receiving email:
1. Press alt + letter t to go to the Tools menu. Press the letter A to go to
the Internet Accounts dialogue box.
2. Press the Home key to go to the top of the list of accounts. Select the
account marked as "default."
3. Press Alt + letter P or tab to the Properties button and press enter.
4. You will be placed in the properties dialogue box for your default
account. There are five tabs beginning with General and ending with
Advanced. The following are the settings I used for each of these five tabs.
These settings worked to correctly configure my charter email account, but
the configurations you will need for your account will undoubtedly vary.
Note: I placed the information requested of me between parentheses. Replace
this information with your own.

General Tab Information:
Type the name by which you would like to refer to these servers. For
example: "Work" or "Windows Mail." (Optional but you can enter a unique name
such as "Ryan" to make identifying your account easier)
User Information Name: (RyanX)
Organization: (Blank)
E-mail address: (RyanX@Charter.net)
Reply address: (Blank)
Include this account when receiving mail or synchronizing. (Check box
checked)
Note: when you finish making these changes tab to Apply and press enter.
Press Control + Tab to move to the next tab which is the Servers Tab.

Servers Tab Info:
My incoming mail server is a POP3 server.
Incoming mail POP3: pop.charter.net
Outgoing mail SMTP: smtp.charter.net
E-mail username: (It may already be entered for you. If not type your name
such as RyanX. If this doesn't work, after completing this entire process,
try typing your full email address such as RyanX@charter.net)
Password: (enter email account password for your ISP)
Remember password: (Checkbox checked)
Log on using Secure Password Authentication: (not checked)
My server requires authentication: (Not checked)
Note: when you finish making these changes tab to Apply and press enter.
Press Control + Tab to move to the next tab which is the Connection Tab.

Connection Tab info:
Note: I made 0 modifications to this tab.

Security Tab Info:
Note: I made 0 modifications to this tab.

Advanced Tab Info:
Server Port Numbers
Outgoing mail (SMTP): 25
This server requires a secure connection (SSL): (checkbox not checked)
Incoming mail (POP3): (On your computer it will most likely be 110)
This server requires a secure connection (SSL) (Checkbox not checked)
Server Timeouts slider: (Set by default to 11%--1 minute)
Break apart messages larger than 60 KB: (Checkbox not checked)
Leave a copy of messages on server: (Checkbox not checked)
Note: when you finish making these changes tab to Apply and press enter. Tab
to Ok and press enter.

5. After closing the previous Properties dialogue box for your default
account you will be returned to the Internet Accounts Dialogue box. Simply
tab to the Close button and press enter.
6. Try sending yourself an email message to test your configurations.

If you are still unable to configure your email client for sending and
receiving email, you may have to call your ISP's Technical Support line. You
might also want to run a Google search if you need some of these
configurations defined and or explained.

`1Adding an Additional Email Account

For those who need to create additional email accounts for family members
and alike, complete the following procedure.
Note: To fully understand this process of creating a new email account I
suggest you use your screen reader's mouse cursor keys when in the Internet
Account dialogue box. Reading the entire screen using the JAWS cursor and
alike will lessen confusion and can help you successfully complete this
process.

`2To add email accounts in Windows Mail:
1. From your Inbox press Alt + letter T to go to the Tools menu.
2. Press letter A to go to the Internet Accounts dialogue box.
3. Tab to the Add... button and press enter.
4. On the first screen of this wizard you will be placed on the What type of
account would you like to add combo box. Make sure Email Account is
selected. Tab to the "Next" button and press enter.
5. On the second screen of this wizard you will be placed on an edit field.
Type your name as you would like others to see it when your email arrives in
their Inbox. If there is text already in this edit field simply type over
it. Tab to Next and press enter.
6. On the Third screen you will be expected to enter your full email address
such as RyanY@charter.net. Tab to Next and press enter.
7. On the fourth screen you will be required to setup email servers. Enter
the following information:
Incoming Email server type: POP3
Incoming mail POP3 or IMAP server: POP.Charter.net
Outgoing e-mail server SMTP name: SMTP.charter.net
Outgoing server requires authentication: (Leave checkbox unchecked)
Make sure you tab through these server settings once again to insure you
correctly entered all required information. Tab to Next and press enter.
8. On the fifth screen you will be expected to provide a valid user name and
password. For example, RyanY as well as the password associated with this
account. Tab to the Remember Password checkbox and check it. Tab to Next and
press enter.
9. On the sixth screen of this wizard you will be presented with a message
congratulating you for successfully configuring your new email account. Tab
to the Finish button and press enter.
10. Tab to the Close button and press enter.
11. Press F5 or press Control + letter M to check for new email.
12. Test your settings by sending yourself an email message.

`1Windows Mail Accessibility Configurations

For those of you who have used Outlook Express in the past, the following
accessibility related modifications will be very familiar to you. You will
make changes to the Layout within the View menu, and you will make many
modifications within the Tools/Options multipage dialogue box.

`2To modify the Windows Mail Layout:
1. Press Alt + letter V to go to the View menu.
2. Press the letter L to go to Layout....
3. The first item will be the Folder bar. Make sure this is not checked. If
it is checked press the spacebar to uncheck this item.
4. Press the tab key to move through the next few items on this screen. The
last item will probably be Show Preview Pane. Press spacebar to uncheck this
item.
5. Tab to Apply and press enter. Tab to Ok and press enter.

`2To complete View menu modifications:
1. Press Alt + letter V to open the View menu.
2. The first option is the Current View submenu. Press enter on this item.
The default setting is Show all messages. I choose to hide my read messages,
so I down arrow once to the Hide read messages option and press enter. The
menu will close and you will be placed back in your inbox. I hide all of my
read messages because when new messages arrive in my inbox they are at times
mixed in with previously read messages. This makes it difficult for me to
quickly read through my email. If you do not need nor like this setting
simply repeat this process and select the Show all messages option.
3. Press the letter V to open the View menu once again. Down arrow to the
Sort by submenu and press enter. These settings will help you configure how
your messages are displayed. Press down arrow to move through the available
settings. Press enter to check or uncheck any of these settings--the menu
will then close. You will want to experiment with these items to find the
settings that best meet your needs. The setting I suggest you seriously
consider is Sort Ascending. This item will change the order of your messages
to place the oldest messages at the top of the list and the newest messages
at the bottom of the list. In day to day use this insures you read messages
in the order they arrived in your inbox

`1General Windows Mail Configurations

The following configurations will help you customize how your messages are
sent, received, composed, etc.

`2To configure Windows Mail Options:
1. Press Alt + letter T for Tools then press letter O for Options.
2. You will be placed on the General Tab of this multi-page dialogue box.
You are free to configure the following Windows Mail settings as you wish,
but I have found the following specific settings provide me great ease of
use and great screen reader accessibility.
Note: press the spacebar to check and uncheck the settings below.

General tab settings:
Notify me if there are any new newsgroups. (I unchecked this)
Use newsgroup message rating features. (I unchecked this)
Play sound when new messages arrive. (I checked this)
Send and receive messages at startup. (I checked this)
Check for new messages every: (I checked this. I pressed the tab key once
and used up and down arrow to set to 10 minutes.
If my computer is not connected at this time combo box: (I set to do not
connect)
Note: If you use your screen reader's mouse cursor key such as the JAWS
cursor, and if you read the bottom of this general tab screen, you will find
the following information which confirms Windows Mail to be your default
email client.
"Default Messaging Programs
This application is the default Mail handler. (Make default unavailable)."
You can now tab to Apply and press enter. Press Control + Tab to move to the
Read tab.

Read tab settings:
Mark message read after displaying for: (Important: uncheck this item)
Automatically expand grouped messages. (Unchecked)
Automatically download message when viewing in the Preview Pane. (unchecked)
You can now tab to Apply and press enter. Press Control + Tab to move to the
Receipts tab.

Receipts tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move to
the Send tab.

Send tab settings:
Most of the default Send tab settings are set just fine and do not require
modification. The one change I suggest you seriously consider is the sending
and receiving of email messages in plain text rather than in HTML. To do so
do the following:
A. Press the tab key about six times or until you find the following
setting: Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent. Press
the spacebar to Uncheck this checkbox.
B. Press the Tab key twice or until you find the first radio button. Press
down arrow to select Plain text.
C. Press the tab key about three times or until you find the next radio
button. Press down arrow to select Plain text.
D. Tab to Apply and press the spacebar. Press Control + Tab to move to the
Compose tab.
Note: after these plain text modifications are made you will still have
the ability to activate a link by pressing enter on the link contained
within the email message.

Compose tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move to
the Signature tab.

Signature tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move to
the Spelling tab.

Spelling tab settings:
Always check spelling before sending. (Check this item)
The original text in a reply or forward. (Check this)
Internet Addresses. (Check this)
You can now tab to Apply and press enter. Press Control + Tab to move to the
Security tab.

Security tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move to
the Connection tab.

Connection tab settings:
Note: I did not modify any of these settings. Press Control + Tab to move to
the Advanced tab.

Advanced settings tab:
There is only one item of significance here: Maintenance.... Press the tab
key until you locate this item and press enter. This dialogue box can be
used to configure many different email related maintenance tools. Press the
tab key to move through these items and decide which settings are important
to you. The following are two important settings:
A. Empty messages from the 'Deleted Items' folder on exit. I often quickly
read through my messages and press the delete key to delete messages I want
to temporarily save in the deleted items folder. For messages I want to
permanently delete, while the messages are highlighted, I simply press Shift
+ Delete key and they are gone for good. This process affords me a bit of
insurance that I did not permanently delete a message that may prove to be
useful in the near future. Ultimately I either move messages in the deleted
items folder to other folders for permanent storage, or I select all the
messages and permanently delete them by pressing Shift + Delete key as I
have described above. If you have chosen to modify this setting simply tab
to Close and press enter. Tab to Ok and press enter.
B. Store folder.... Pressing enter on this item will show you where your
email related folders are stored. Once this dialogue opens you need only tab
twice or until you come to an edit field that contains the path to your
message stores. Note that in this dialogue box you can change the default
location where your messages are stored. This is beneficial if you want your
messages to be stored on a different partition than the partition that holds
your operating system. Press Ok or escape to close this dialogue box. Press
close or escape on the Maintenance dialogue box. Press Ok or escape on the
Advanced tab dialogue box.

Congratulations! You have now completed making all of your Windows Mail
accessibility Configurations! You should now find Windows Mail incredibly
easy to use and almost completely indistinguishable from Outlook Express.

`1Configuring a Google Gmail Account

The following should help you configure Windows Mail to receive your Google
Gmail.
Note: The following instructions are based on the assumption that you have
already configured a working Gmail account via the Google website.

`2To Launch the New Internet Account Wizard for configuring your Gmail
account:
1. Close all applications. Launch Windows mail by using the Desktop icon or
your Windows mail hotkey.
2. While in the Inbox press Alt + letter T to open the Tools menu then press
letter A to open the Internet Accounts dialogue box.
3. Tab to Add... and press enter. The Internet Connection wizard will
launch.
Note: using your screen reader's mouse cursor such as the JAWS cursor to
read each of the following screens in their entirety will help you
understand the information requested of you.
4. On the first screen of this wizard you will be asked: What type of
account would you like to add? Use your up and down arrow keys to select
Email (this will be the default option). Press the Tab key and press enter
on Next.
5. The second screen of this wizard will present the following prompt:
Display name. This is an edit field where you can type in the name other
people will see when you send them email messages. You can type in your name
such as John Doe as it is not necessary to type in your complete email
address. After you have completed entering your name tab to Next and press
enter.
6. On the third screen you will be on an edit field where you must enter
your full Gmail address (E.G.: RyanF@gmail.com. When you have finished tab
to Next and press enter.
7. On the fourth screen you will be asked to set up your email servers.
Press Shift + Tab once to be placed on the Incoming Email Server Type combo
box. This combo box will have two choices: POP3 or SMTP. Use the Up arrow or
down arrow to make your selection. I will be configuring a POP3 account
using the information immediately below.

The following settings are used to create a POP3 Gmail account but IMap
settings are very similar. When entering the information below press the tab
key to move from edit field to edit field.

In the Incoming mail server edit field type the following: pop.gmail.com

In the Outgoing Email Server Name edit field type the following:
smtp.gmail.com

Outgoing server requires authentication (Check this checkbox)

Tab through all these settings once again to confirm they are correct. When
you are finished tab to Next and press enter.

8. On the fifth screen of this wizard you will be asked to enter your
internet mail log on information. Your email user name (RyanF) will most
likely be entered automatically. You can manually delete the information in
this edit field, or you can simply type over it by entering your full Gmail
address (E.G.: RyanX@gmail.com). It is very important you enter your full
formal Gmail account email address. Press tab and enter your Gmail password.
Press tab again and hit the spacebar to check the following checkbox:
Remember password. Tab to Next and press enter.
9. You have now come to the final screen in this new account wizard. This
screen is essentially a screen congratulating you on having successfully
entered all the information required to setup your new email account. Tab to
the Finish button and press enter. Tab to the Close button and press enter.
10. Once the previous screen closes you will be placed in your Inbox, but
you are not finished configuring your Gmail account just yet.
11. Press Alt + letter T to open the Tools menu then press the letter A for
Accounts.
12. Press the Home key to go to the top of the accounts list view. Down
arrow through your accounts until you highlight the pop.gmail.com account.
13. Press Control + letter P or tab to the Properties button and press
enter.
14. After the multi-page dialogue box opens press Control + Shift + Tab key
once. You will be placed on the Advanced tab of this dialogue box. Make sure
to correctly enter the following Server Port Numbers in their respective
edit fields:

Outgoing mail (SMTP): 465
This server requires a secure connection (SSL): (check this checkbox)

Incoming mail (POP3): 995
This server requires a secure connection (SSL): (check this checkbox)

15. Tab to the following setting and make sure it is not checked: Leave a
copy of messages on server.
Note: this setting is optional, but I choose to download my GMail only once.
16. These settings are very important so tab through this entire dialogue
box twice to insure you have entered the information correctly.
17. When you have verified all settings have been configured properly,
simply tab to Apply and press enter. Tab to the Close button and press
enter.
18. Press F5 or Control + letter M to check for new email. If you do not
receive any new email messages send a test message to your Gmail account to
insure your Windows Mail settings have been configured properly.
19. If all is well you should hear the progress of your email as it is being
downloaded. If you are a JAWS user you can check the progress of the
download by pressing Insert + the numpad page down key.

`1Creating Message Rules

Creating Message rules in windows Mail can help you sort messages into
personal folders. This is beneficial if you belong to many list serves and
would like your new downloaded messages automatically sorted into their
respective list serve folders. The following tutorial will help you create a
personal Windows Mail folder as well as creating a message rule that will
direct new email into this specific folder.

`2To create a new email folder:
1. While in the Inbox press the new folder hotkey: Control + shift + letter
E. You can also press Alt + letter F to open the file menu. Press the enter
key on New.... Down arrow and press enter on Folder.... Both of these
procedures will take you to the Create folder dialogue box.
2. You will be placed on an edit field where you can type a name for the
folder you will be creating. You can name your folder anything you like, but
you should try to limit the name of this folder to two or three words (E.G.:
W7Starter Messages).
3. After naming what will be your personalized email folder, press the Tab
key once then press the Home key. You should here: "level 0, local folders
open." Press up arrow if you have to manually find your way to this folder
at level 0. This is a very important step so make sure you correctly
complete this step.
4. Tab through this dialogue box once again to insure all is configured
properly.
5. Tab to Ok and press enter.
6. You have now completed the process of creating a new email folder.
7. To verify that your folder has been created properly simply press Control
+ letter Y, press the Home key once, right arrow once, then down arrow
through your list of folders or press the first few letters of your folder.

You will now create a message rule that will tell Windows Mail to redirect
any new email messages from the W7Starters list to the W7Starter Messages
folder.

`2To create a new message rule:
1. Press alt + letter T to open the Tools menu then down arrow and press
enter on the Message rules submenu.
2. Press enter on Mail....
3. The New Mail Rule dialogue box will appear. There will be four separate
configurations to be made: 1. Select the Conditions for your rule, 2. Select
the Actions for your rule, 3. Rule Description, and 4. Name of the rule.
4. You must first specify conditions for your rule. You will be presented
with a list view containing twelve possible conditions. Press down arrow to
review your choices. These options can be checked and unchecked with a press
of the spacebar. You can also check more than one condition. It is very
important to keep in mind that when it comes time to checking one of these
options, JAWS will not give you any feedback as to whether an item has been
checked or not. JAWS will only repeat the item. Nevertheless, be assured
that in fact the selection has been made and you can tab to the next
setting. For the purposes of this tutorial, down arrow and select the
following condition: Where the Subject line contains specific words. Press
the spacebar on this item, and you should hear the condition being repeated.
5. Tab once and you will be placed on the list view containing possible
actions to be associated with your previous condition. Since you have
already configured the message rule to take action based on the subject line
of an email message, you will now dictate what that action should be. For
your purpose, you want to redirect new W7Starter list messages away from
your Inbox and into the W7Starter Messages folder. All messages from the
W7Starter's list have an identifying set of characters in their subject line
(W7Starter), so you will use this information to make your configurations.
Press the spacebar to select the first option on this list: Move it to the
specified folder. Press the tab key to go to the next step.
6. While in the Rule Description edit box press up arrow until you read the
following line of text: Apply this rule after the message arrives. Down
arrow to line #2 and press the Home key to be placed on the first character
of this second line. Use your screen reader's Move to next word command only
once (JAWS command is Insert + NumPad right arrow). You will now have to
bring the mouse cursor to your current location and execute a left click. If
you are a JAWS user press Insert + NumPad minus (-) key. Follow this up with
a single JAWS left click command which is NumPad slash (/) key. The
following dialogue box will present itself: Type specific words or a phrase,
and click Add. Enter the following in this edit field: W7Starter. Tab to the
Add button and press the spacebar. Tab to Ok and press the spacebar. You
will be returned to the rule description edit field. Review the second line
of text once again to insure you read the following: Where the Subject line
contains W7Starter. You will have to repeat a similar process for line #3.
Down arrow to the following line: Move it to the specified folder. Once
again, press the Home key. Move the cursor to the second word by using your
screen reader's NextWord command. Press the JAWS cursor to PC cursor command
(Insert + NumPad minus key). Follow this up with a single left click command
which can be executed by pressing the NumPad slash (/) key. You will be
placed on the Local folders tree view. Press right arrow to open this tree
view then down arrow through your email folders until you locate the
W7Starter Messages folder. Tab to Ok and press enter. You will be returned
to the rule description edit field. Review the three lines in this edit
field to insure all values are correct. Tab to the next item to name this
rule.
7. Enter a name for your new Message rule. Tab to Ok and press enter. Tab to
Ok once again and press enter.
8. Now that you have completed the process of creating a message rule that
will redirect messages from your Inbox to your desired folder, you need only
wait for new messages to arrive.

`2To delete a message rule:
1. Press Alt + letter T for Tools then press the letter R or down arrow to
Message rules and press enter. Press enter on Mail....
2. You will be placed on the list of message rules. Select a rule then press
the Delete key, or press Alt + letter R, or tab to Remove and press enter.
You will be presented with a message asking you to confirm that you want to
delete your message rule. Press enter on the Yes button. Tab to Ok and press
enter.
Note: you must tab to Ok and press enter or your message rule will not be
removed.

`1Indexing Your Windows Mail Messages

As a result of this tutorial, Windows Mail is now an integral part of
Windows7, but Windows7 is clueless of this fact. This can put you at a
significant disadvantage as you will not be able to run a search for email
messages saved or created after windows Mail was revived. .Windows search
Index to the rescue! The search index is a method used by Windows to track
newly created files and subsequent changes made to these files. The Index
includes many file types, but it can also be easily configured to index
files and folders not indexed by default. The following tutorial will walk
you through enlightening Windows7 about it's new email client and associated
files. After completing the following tutorial you will be able to use the
Start menu search box to find any email message saved within your previous
email client's message stores as well as your new Windows Mail message
stores.

`2To add Windows Mail to the Search Index:
1. Press the Windows key to go to the Start menu search box and type the
following and hit enter: indexing options.
2. Tab to Modify and press enter.
Note: You may be presented with the following message:

"Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot
fulfill the messaging request. Please run Microsoft Office Outlook and set
it as the default mail client.
OK."

You can simply press escape to close this message. You will have to press
Alt + Tab to return focus to the Indexing options dialogue box.
3. Press the tab key once or until you locate the following: Summary of
selected locations basket list view. Press down arrow to locate the Windows
Live Mail entry.
4. Press Shift + Tab key once. The location of the Windows Live Mail folder
will be highlighted and presented in a hierarchical tree view format. You
will also notice that this folder will have a checkbox associated with it.
Leave this item checked and arrow down once or twice to select the Windows
Mail entry. Press the spacebar to change the status of this Windows Mail
folder to checked.
5. Tab to ok and press enter. If necessary, press tab to Ok and hit enter
once again.
6. At this point the Windows search Index will begin indexing all of your
Windows Mail email messages. Depending on the number of email messages you
have accumulated, this may take a few seconds or much longer.
7. After the indexing of your messages has been completed, try running a
search for a recent email message. Press the Windows key to go to the Start
menu search box and type the following then press down arrow to review the
results (you can also copy and paste this search syntax):
kind:email date:yesterday
As you down arrow through the search results you will be presented with a
list of email messages from your Inbox, or from your W7Starters's folder, or
in any other folder containing saved email messages from the previous day.
Press enter to read the message. Press escape to close the message.
If you do not get any hits you may have to try variations on the "date"
filter such as
Today or lastweek.

After a little practice, you will discover using Windows Search will help
you find email messages with speed and ease you've never experienced before.

`1Removing Take Ownership from the Windows Context menu

Now that Windows Mail has been successfully installed and configured, you
can do some minor housecleaning. You installed a utility called Take
Ownership, which allowed you to have complete access to a specific Windows
system file. You will no longer have any need for this Take Ownership
utility, so removing it from the Windows Context menu is in order.

`2To remove Take Ownership from the Windows Context menu:
1. Locate the Ryan's Windows Mail Tweak folder.
2. Open the following subfolder: Take ownership Removal. Press enter on the
single registry file: Remove Take Ownership.reg.
3. When the registry editor message is presented press enter on the Yes
button. Press enter on the Ok button.
4. Open a Windows Explorer window, open a folder, locate any file, and press
the Windows Context menu key. Press down arrow through all of the options to
make sure that the Take Ownership entry is no longer listed.

`1Closing Comments

As I've stated above, I've had absolutely zero problems with this process
and Windows Mail in general--it simply works. Yet, there are a few things to
keep in mind...

1. Will I be able to use the Help files?
You will not have access to any of the Windows Mail help files. In fact,
there isn't much at all in the Help menu. This is far from a show stopper as
Windows Mail has been around for years now, so any question you may have can
be answered very quickly by running the most basic Google search. If you are
an experienced Outlook Express user, you will not have any need for the help
files. Judging from the types of messages I read on various list serves it
doesn't appear too many people are fans of the F1 key or help menus in
general anyways so this is in no way a hindrance.

2. Should I uninstall windows Live Mail?
This is a personal decision, but if you want access to all your previously
saved Windows Live Mail messages I suggest you do not uninstall it. If you
have followed every step of this tutorial you will have incapacitated WLM to
the point that you will forget about it in a couple of weeks. In the event
you have the need to review an older email message as might be the case with
a message relating to a purchase or an important personal email message, you
will want access to that document. By deleting or removing your message
stores you will not have access to this information. Furthermore, by not
uninstalling your previous email client you will not have to import the old
messages into Windows Mail as you can readily access these email messages by
running a simple search as described above. As a small digression, after
installing Windows Mail I was so overwhelmed with its great accessibility
and stability that I instantly decided that WLM must go for good. This was a
huge mistake because I incorrectly believed that by deleting the accounts my
email stores would still remain. A few minutes after deleting all of my
accounts I stopped to wonder why I was hearing so much hard drive and
processor activity on my computer. I suddenly recalled the familiar sound I
was hearing, it was the Windows index deleting entries. Awareness of what I
had just done hit me like a ton of bricks--I had just accidentally deleted
absolutely all of my email messages. Windows was now busily removing
thousands of email message entries from its search index. Luckily I followed
every step of this tutorial and backed up my email messages!

3. Are there any weird quirks with this Windows Mail tweak?
If you press your Windows Mail hotkey, and if you have not yet established a
connection to the internet, you may be presented with the following message:

"Windows Mail dialogue
Windows Mail has stopped working. A problem has caused the program to stop
working correctly. Please close the program.
Close the program button."

This message is nothing to worry about. The solution is to first press enter
on the Close this program button. Launch your browser such as Internet
Explorer. Confirm you are connected by running a Google search. If you are
sure you are connected to the internet press your Windows Mail hotkey once
again and your email client should open in it's normal fashion.

4. Will I still have to compact messages in windows Mail?
Yes. Like Outlook Express before it and WLM after it, you will have to
compact your email messages after opening your email client 100 times. You
will get the following message:

"Windows Mail
Windows Mail can compact the message store. This may take up to a few
minutes.
OK Cancel
Get help from communities"

Press enter on Ok for the process to begin. The entire process may take a
few seconds or a few minutes.

5. Anything else I should know?
As I stated within the tutorial, do not forget to go back into the folder
options and return the settings for hidden files and system files back to
their defaults (off). See Step #3 above.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 14:33
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Windows7, Jaws, and email


Hi Chris
I have used Thunderbird, and had such a hard time with it I switdched to
Windows Live mail. I tryed not to use llive mail because I heard so much
bad about it. Now that I have used it, I know why no one like it.
I plan to use Windows Mail, a form of outlook express. Windows 7 comes with
it, but you have to fix it and add it to the registry.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Windows7, Jaws, and email

Hi all,

Just got a new laptop running Windows7.
Since I am an old user of Outlook Express, and I do not have Outlook, I am
wondering what the most accessible email client is with Jaws?
How is Windows Live Mail, or Thunderbird?

I am running the most current version of Jaws 13.

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: [Bulk] Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Dave...
 

Sounds like you got it fixed.
Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:27
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12


Hi,

I don't know about not working. I followed the steps and JAWS 12 doesn't say
tab now.

Dondi
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Hi Joni,

Disregard my last post. I sent it too quick. Those steps don't work for
what you are wanting to do. Sorry, take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
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To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12


Someone asked me how to silence the tab key in JAWS 12 and I have no
idea how to do that. I noticed it is only spoken when screen echo is
other
than none. I usually have that set to none, but apparently this person
has
a different setting.

I looked in the Settings Center but did not find a way to silence a key,
although I am certain it is there somewhere. Thanks.

Joni


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Re: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Dondi,

Which set of steps did you use, the steps for Speech & Sound Schemes or for
Keyboard? Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12


Hi,

I don't know about not working. I followed the steps and JAWS 12 doesn't
say
tab now.

Dondi
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On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Hi Joni,

Disregard my last post. I sent it too quick. Those steps don't work for
what you are wanting to do. Sorry, take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12


Someone asked me how to silence the tab key in JAWS 12 and I have no
idea how to do that. I noticed it is only spoken when screen echo is
other
than none. I usually have that set to none, but apparently this person
has
a different setting.

I looked in the Settings Center but did not find a way to silence a key,
although I am certain it is there somewhere. Thanks.

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Re: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Dondi
 

Hi,

I don't know about not working. I followed the steps and JAWS 12 doesn't say
tab now.

Dondi

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On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Hi Joni,

Disregard my last post. I sent it too quick. Those steps don't work for
what you are wanting to do. Sorry, take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Joni Colver
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12


Someone asked me how to silence the tab key in JAWS 12 and I have no
idea how to do that. I noticed it is only spoken when screen echo is
other
than none. I usually have that set to none, but apparently this person
has
a different setting.

I looked in the Settings Center but did not find a way to silence a key,
although I am certain it is there somewhere. Thanks.

Joni


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Re: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

2.g.i <2.g.i.84972@...>
 

Hi,
open settings center
go to keyboard & expand it by right arrow
go to manage key lables & open it.
press the letter t, & you will land on tab
press the space bar to mute it
HTH

At 01:58 PM 1/1/2012, you wrote:
Someone asked me how to silence the tab key in JAWS 12 and I have no
idea how to do that. I noticed it is only spoken when screen echo is other
than none. I usually have that set to none, but apparently this person has
a different setting.

I looked in the Settings Center but did not find a way to silence a key,
although I am certain it is there somewhere. Thanks.

Joni

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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Brandon,

Yes, if you have a download for IE8 on your Vista machine, you can transfer
it over to your Widows7 machine & install / run it. I am running Firefox
6.0 on my computers. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I'm trying to install Firefox and I'm not sure what version I should
choose.
Is 10 accessible with Jaws 11?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
Will the IE 8 for Windows Vista work on Windows 7? Because I do not see IE
8
for Windows 7.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Barbara
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Brandon,

Did you have IE8 installed at any time on this computer before? If not,
you will need to Download IE8 but, don't install it. Follow the steps
below
to remove IE9.

From: Flor Lynch

Do the following in Windows 7

1. Open the start menu and in the search edit box, type updates.
2. Wait a moment, then arrow down to "Show installed updates"
3. Press enter key and wait for the list to load up.
4. Now press the tab key till you come to another search box and in it
type the following;
Internet Explorer

5. After waiting a few moments, press the tab key till you come to a
results
list. IE9 will now be in the results.

6. Press the down arrow key once; then press the "application key" and
down
arrow to uninstall and then press the enter key.

7. Just follow the prompts from here on to remove the item.
Flor

After removing uninstalling IE9, you can now install IE8. Another thing,
set your updates so you can install them or, Widows7 will download &
install
them, which will install IE9 again. The next time you see IE9 as an
update,
hide it! Hope this helps. Take care & have a happy New Year.
Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many
line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one
seemed
to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with
Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the
driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key
to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick
thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could
choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable
option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows
7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just
type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the
list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that
will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's
present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I
hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This
is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function
Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor,
and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make
things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer
that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows
7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard,
but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just
strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate
to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and
press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on
large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the
CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have
set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean
by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make
Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32
bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My
computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few
things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was
waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on
the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating
system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make
sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine
and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your
way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental
movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked
out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding
the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I
know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there
should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some
text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows
Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view,
Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are
what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not
professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth
and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: JAWS and Jarte

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

Just to update the list, I decided to install the converter pack and now my doc files open in Jarte. Hopefully, there won't be any negative repercussions in the future, but for now I have resolved my issue.

Joni

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 4:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Jarte

Ah, that may explain why I can open the .doc files with Jart. I was
going to tell you I hadn't had a problem, then I read the article.

It's a little conversion file that you install and forget about. I
can send it to you if you like.


Ann

At 02:11 PM 12/31/2011, you wrote:
I downloaded Jarte and it looks like a good program. However, it will not open my Word 2000 documents. I will paste in information I got from Jarte upon trying to open a file and then information from CNET about the converter pack. I am reluctant to install the converter pack since it does not mention whether it works with Windows 7. It was released in 2007, probably before Windows 7 was released. It may work and it may not. I have not decided if I want to try it or not, but I do like Jarte in the meantime, other than the fact that it won't open my doc files. That is the fault of Microsoft and not the company who offers Jarte.

Joni

Update (Aug 8, 2011): A recent Windows update has disabled Jarte's ability to use the graphics filters in the Office Converter Pack. Therefore, Jarte can
no longer display non-bitmap images in Word 97-2003 binary DOC files. The word around is to use Microsoft's free
Word Viewer
program to open those files.

Jarte can open Word 97-2003 DOC files created by the Word word processor if Microsoft's Office Converter Pack is installed on the computer.

The Office Converter Pack is no longer available at Microsoft's web site, however it can still be downloaded from CNET's Download.com web site using the
link below. Close and restart Jarte after you have installed the Office Converter Pack and Jarte will then be able to open Word 97-2003 DOC files.

Click here to go to CNET's download page for the Office Converter Pack

More information about the Office Converter Pack is available at Microsoft's
Office Converter Pack information page.

This is from the CNET website:
Office File Converter Pack
Download Now CNET Secure Download

Quick Specs

Version: 11
File size: 1.68MB
Date added: September 14, 2007
Price: Free
Operating system: Windows 2000/XP


-----Original Message----- From: Dean Martineau
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 1:53 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS and Jarte

The page at http://jarte.com/features.html clearly states that Jarte opens
.doc and .docx files. And that is the free version. The $19.95 version
does all that besides allowing for customizable keyboard shortcuts,
autocorrect and the storing of clipboard data between sessions.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Jarte

But it won't open word documents RJ
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS and Jarte



Jarte works very well with JAWS. In fact, if all you want is a basic word
processing program, then Jarte works even better than MS Word. It is
optimized to work with screen readers, and its menus are simple and
straightforward, unlike the confusing ribbon menus in Word 2007 and
higher. It even has a built-in spell checker and allows you to save
templates. Really a great little word processor.

Gerald


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To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:52 PM
Subject: JAWS and Jarte


Does anyone use a free word processing program called Jarte? The
features sound like they will meet my needs, but I wonder how well it
works with JAWS. The website is:

http://www.jarte.com/

I have a lot of Word 2000 documents with the doc extension and WordPad
does not open this type of document in Windows 7. I am trying to find an
alternative to Word since I may not need to buy that program unless my
work situation changes. In the meantime, I would like access to all my
documents without having to convert each one to rtf format to open them
in WordPad on my new Windows 7 computer. Thanks.

Joni

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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
I'm trying to install Firefox and I'm not sure what version I should choose. Is 10 accessible with Jaws 11?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
Will the IE 8 for Windows Vista work on Windows 7? Because I do not see IE 8
for Windows 7.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Barbara
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Brandon,

Did you have IE8 installed at any time on this computer before? If not,
you will need to Download IE8 but, don't install it. Follow the steps below
to remove IE9.

From: Flor Lynch

Do the following in Windows 7

1. Open the start menu and in the search edit box, type updates.
2. Wait a moment, then arrow down to "Show installed updates"
3. Press enter key and wait for the list to load up.
4. Now press the tab key till you come to another search box and in it
type the following;
Internet Explorer

5. After waiting a few moments, press the tab key till you come to a
results
list. IE9 will now be in the results.

6. Press the down arrow key once; then press the "application key" and
down
arrow to uninstall and then press the enter key.

7. Just follow the prompts from here on to remove the item.
Flor

After removing uninstalling IE9, you can now install IE8. Another thing,
set your updates so you can install them or, Widows7 will download & install
them, which will install IE9 again. The next time you see IE9 as an update,
hide it! Hope this helps. Take care & have a happy New Year.
Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many
line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one
seemed
to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with
Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the
driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key
to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick
thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could
choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the
list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's
present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I
hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows
7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on
large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the
CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have
set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean
by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32
bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My
computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was
waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating
system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make
sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding
the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are
what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not
professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth
and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
Will the IE 8 for Windows Vista work on Windows 7? Because I do not see IE 8 for Windows 7.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Barbara
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Brandon,

Did you have IE8 installed at any time on this computer before? If not,
you will need to Download IE8 but, don't install it. Follow the steps below
to remove IE9.

From: Flor Lynch

Do the following in Windows 7

1. Open the start menu and in the search edit box, type updates.
2. Wait a moment, then arrow down to "Show installed updates"
3. Press enter key and wait for the list to load up.
4. Now press the tab key till you come to another search box and in it
type the following;
Internet Explorer

5. After waiting a few moments, press the tab key till you come to a
results
list. IE9 will now be in the results.

6. Press the down arrow key once; then press the "application key" and
down
arrow to uninstall and then press the enter key.

7. Just follow the prompts from here on to remove the item.
Flor

After removing uninstalling IE9, you can now install IE8. Another thing,
set your updates so you can install them or, Widows7 will download & install
them, which will install IE9 again. The next time you see IE9 as an update,
hide it! Hope this helps. Take care & have a happy New Year.
Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I was looking at IE trying to figure out why it was showing so many
line-breaks.
I have IE 9 which to my knowledge does not work well with Jaws 11.
Is there any way to downgrade IE 9 to IE 8? I googled it, but no one
seemed
to be downgrading their IE 9 on a Windows 7 computer.

Also, what have people found is the best anti virus program to work with
Jaws?
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a precision M6400.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Yeh it will be the same thing. Just don't tick the box to remove the
driver
if it's available. What laptop do you have as there will likely be a key
to
disable it. I'm assuming you are referring to the touchpad or joystick
thing

actually on the keyboard rather than a seperate mouse?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi Peter
I was not able to find a disable choice. If I get desperate, I could
choose
the uninstall option.
If I choose the unstall option, would I then be given the disable option?

This is a Dell and it may be the way they set the driver.

I can go to the Control Panel and to Mouse and turn it off, but Windows 7
will fix this and turn it back on.
John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hi, you will be able to disabled the mouse using Device Manager. Just type
in device manager on the start menu. Once it's up tab then go down the
list
to mice and other pointing devices and expand it. Then go to the mice
devices and press the applications key. Then go to disable. Note that will
disable the mouse but won't uninstall it. Don't tick the box if it's
present

offering to uninstall the driver though as that will delete the driver.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Sherrer
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

I have a Dell laptop and it has no way to turn off the monitor unless I
hook
it to an external monitor.
But I can turn the brightness down very low to save battery life. This is
done by holding down the Function Key and pressing the down arrow.
If I need my wife to bail me out of trouble, I hold down the Function Key
and press the up arrow to restore the brightness.

My wife has a Sony Laptop and it has a switch to turn off the monitor, and
she does not need this feature.

What I would like to see is a feature to turn off the mouse.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
That works marvelously! It's not the same, but the small icons make things
so much easier to navigate!
I think it was the fact that I had a 32 bit Jaws on a 64 bit computer that
was giving me all the big problems.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the mute button on Windows
7?
For some reason they have a mute button up on the top of the keyboard, but
they don't have a button to turn off the monitor. That is just strange...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

One thing you can do with the CTRL panel once you are in it Is navigate to
the search with CTRL E, tab once until you hear category button and press
space bar. Once the context menu is up arrow up or down and enter on
large
icons or small icons.
Then you can just use letter navigation from there to get to the various
different items in the CTRL panel instead of tabbing around.
If this isn't what you are referring to with the "classic view" of the
CTRL
panel I will just show myself the door lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Hello,
I have disabled the touchpad and all touch things on my computer. I have
set
everything I could find to work best with Jaws.
I could not find how to make the control panel Classic view. What I mean
by
Classic view is Icons instead of links. In every version up to windows 7
(including Vista) there is a setting you can toggle that will make Control
Panel Icons in rows that you can arrow through. With this windows 7 I'm
forced to hit tab to navigate through a long list of links. This is not
effective in any shape or form.
I perhaps think that there might be a Windows 7 64 bit and Windows 7 32
bit,
but on my CD I saw no double installation. I did see a difference on the
website. Right after I sent this email I Installed the Jaws 11 off FS's
Website and restarted my computer a multitude of times. Once everything
looked to be in order I opened up IE and Jaws promptly Crashed. My
computer
is restarting as I'm typing.

I called FS this morning to ask them to give me another activation and I
asked them if there was anything I needed to know to make Jaws work on a
Windows 7 computer as on other versions of windows there are a few things
you need to do to make Jaws run optimally. I was told that Jaws ran on
Windows 7 no problem.

Needless to say this is the most difficulty in installing Jaws I've ever
had...
If it is truly necessary, I can bug DOR to buy me Jaws 13, but I was
waiting
to do that till the Summer when I will have lots of free time to be on the
phone.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?

Brandon,

Forget about Control Panel in Classic View. There are many once-familiar
dialogs that will look different from XP.

Don't think Home vs. Professional has anything to do with it, unless you
have a non-professional version of JAWS on a professional operating
system.

Have no idea about your line breaks, except that you might want to make
sure
you have IE maximized.

What do you mean by "out of the box" with regard to Freedom Scientific?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything when I got my Windows 7 machine and
JAWS 12 installed.

Do you perhaps have a touchpad or a touch stick that's getting in your way
when you're working? I turned both mine off to prevent accidental movement
of the cursor.

You have JAWS 11 and I'm not sure that JAWS 11 has all the bugs worked out
with regard Windows Live Mail.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 20:10
Subject: [Bulk] Optimal Settings for Jaws on a Windows 7 Computer?


Hello,
I just got a Windows 7 computer and I'm having some difficulties finding
the
optimal settings to set my computer at.
I was told by FS that it came out of the box perfectly configured. I know
this is wrong because on webpages I see 10 line breaks where there should
only be 1 or 2, I'm not hearing characters when I erase them in some text
boxes, when I erase Jaws says the character that's ahead and not the one
it's supposed to be erasing, while I'm typing this message in Windows Live
Mail my Jaws curser is jumping to the desktop at random times, On the HP
solution center everything is unlabeled, Jaws is not reading some of the
notification windows that pop up, the F keys don't work except in key
combinations, I can't seem to get the Control Panel in Classic view, Jaws
doesn't seem to want to start up when I turn on the computer. These are
what
I've found after the second hour with this darn computer!
I'm using Jaws 11 with Windows 7, an HP computer.
Perhaps the problem is that the CD I installed is home and not
professional.
Is there a way to tell?
So far it looks like people saying Windows 7 being better is all a myth
and
I should just
go back to my Vista machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Itunes help please

Terra Syslo <tlsyslo@...>
 

I am running JFW 12.522 with Itunes 10.5. I'm having trouble with the itunes
store, where when it says virtual cursor and I arrow up or down it doesn't
speak anything. I was able to use Itunes previously several months ago. Is
the Itunes store no longer accessible?

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Re: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Joni,

Here we go! These steps will work.

1. Press Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row to open the Settings
Center, & press control, shift, + D, for the Settings Center Default All
Applications.

2. Arrow down to keyboard & open it with the right arrow key.

3. Arrow down to manage key lables & open it by pressing the spacebar.

4. press the letter t, & you will land on tab, This is a toggle so, press
the space bar to mute it.

5. Tab to okaypress the spacebar, tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to
okay, & press the spacebar.

That's it! Hope this helped. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Joni Colver
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12


Someone asked me how to silence the tab key in JAWS 12 and I have no
idea how to do that. I noticed it is only spoken when screen echo is
other
than none. I usually have that set to none, but apparently this person
has
a different setting.

I looked in the Settings Center but did not find a way to silence a key,
although I am certain it is there somewhere. Thanks.

Joni


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Re: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Joni,

Disregard my last post. I sent it too quick. Those steps don't work for
what you are wanting to do. Sorry, take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Joni Colver
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12


Someone asked me how to silence the tab key in JAWS 12 and I have no
idea how to do that. I noticed it is only spoken when screen echo is
other
than none. I usually have that set to none, but apparently this person
has
a different setting.

I looked in the Settings Center but did not find a way to silence a key,
although I am certain it is there somewhere. Thanks.

Joni


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Re: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Joni,

Do the following;
1. Press Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row to open the Settings
Center, & press control, shift, + D, for the Settings Center Default All
Applications.
2. Arrow down to Speech & Sound Schemes & press the right arrow key to open.
3. Arrow down to Modify Schemes..., & press the spacebar to open.
4. Tab to, edit selected scheme button, & press the spacebar.
5. Shift + tab 1 time to put you on the General tab, right arrow 1 time to
the Control Type tab, & tab 1 time to put you in the list of control types.
6. Press the letter T, to put you on the Tab control.
7. Tab 1 time to put you in the tab control list of options &, arrow up or
down to the, ignore radio button.
8. Tab 1 time to okay, press the spacebar, tab to save selected scheme
button, press the spacebar, & tab to okay, press the spacebar, & again tab
to okay & press the spacebar.

That's it! Hope this helped. Take care.
Mike

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From: Joni Colver
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Silence the tab key in JAWS 12


Someone asked me how to silence the tab key in JAWS 12 and I have no
idea how to do that. I noticed it is only spoken when screen echo is
other
than none. I usually have that set to none, but apparently this person
has
a different setting.

I looked in the Settings Center but did not find a way to silence a key,
although I am certain it is there somewhere. Thanks.

Joni


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Silence the tab key in JAWS 12

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

Someone asked me how to silence the tab key in JAWS 12 and I have no
idea how to do that. I noticed it is only spoken when screen echo is other
than none. I usually have that set to none, but apparently this person has
a different setting.

I looked in the Settings Center but did not find a way to silence a key,
although I am certain it is there somewhere. Thanks.

Joni


plextalk

Roger White
 

I am having trouble setting up my Plextalk. I am not sure what is wrong. Can someone write me off list with some tips?

Roger


Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Hi, to read the training you do have to use the jaws cursor I seem to recall. I didn't have any problems with the registration but I can't remember what was involved. JAWS won't read back commands as you make them or read text without you first selecting the text using dragon. It works great once you get used to it.

Peter

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: jeff worthington
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 2:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Major issue with dragon and JAWs. Can't read training dragon, Can't
find any setings, can't regester product as it says something about
the scedualer not set right, Should I remove dragon and reinstal? Jaws
doesn't seem to be working with it. It's Jaws 13 and Dragon 11.5, Any
help would be great. Thank you all and happy new year to everyone and
thank you for all your help last year.

On 1/1/12, BHAVESH <charmingbhavesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hay folks,

Happy 2012!
coming to the point, can anyone point me to a good text/audio tutorial
for how to use dragg and naturally speaking?
Thanks and regards,
Bhavesh.

On 1/1/12, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
It used to, but it has been a long time.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Does it come on a CD? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Been so long since I used it that I doubt it will work. I have not used
it since JAWS 7. Plus, I don't think I have the materials any longer.


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Are you keeping your j-say? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


I'm using the Professional, but I doubt that is required. It was
required
when I used J_Say, which is the only reason I have the Professional
version.
Of course, I'm not using J_Say any more.
Please check first, but I think that if you get the Preferred, you will
get to use what you paid as an upgrade to the Professional version.
Plus, once you are on the Nuance mailing list, you get contacted for
"special" deals, and I've known people who upgraded for a fraction of
the
cost using a Nuance "special offer."


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of tcivi31
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

I would like to try the Dragon. Which version would be the one for my
purposes? Home, Preferred, or Professional and what version number?
Would
be using it with MS Word and E Mail along with Jaws version 13.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to
worry about an information technology department's oppressive security
settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort.
You
will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you
should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on
his
laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a
laptop
to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past
15
years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in
front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation
doesn't
matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of
your
head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that
step
of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can
recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is
checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen.
For
this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two
sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the
settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is
running
out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for
many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option
is
checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like
the
default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep"
commands.
I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case,
shift
plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to
highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should
open
up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box.
There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon
messed
up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list
of
choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you
can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you
want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper
names,
Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when
you
type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you
should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then
press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what
can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or
"show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar
will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will
bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I
triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well
with
Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you
started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going
out
and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek
audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It
works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even
use
that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I
promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed
Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed
with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using
Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably
an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under
"options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create
a
set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
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Re: Help in using Settings Centre

kaveinthran <kavein2211@...>
 

after pressing f6, you will land on a comble box, then press the end key to go to the bottom and selects web crowd
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Re: Help in using Settings Centre

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello try;

1, go to the setting center.

2, you may want to press default, ctrl+shift+d,
Or, maybe, you want to change a setting to program specific, then open the
application you want to change, and press insert+#row6

While in the settings center, arrow to sound schemes,
Right arrow to open, and down arrow and press spacebar on modify
scheme...button.
Now, the default is classic,
So arrow down to the scheme of choice,
Now tab and press enter or the spacebar on edit selected scheme button,
Now make your changes.
Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 9:53 AM
To: JAWS for Windows List
Subject: Help in using Settings Centre


Dear List Friends,

In the Speech & Sound Schemes option in the Settings Centre, the sound
scheme selected by default is Classic. When I want to change the sound
scheme to Web Rent a Crowd scheme, I have to press the space bar nearly
fifteen times. Pressing W takes me out of the sound scheme option to another
option further down the main list.

Is there any way of changing sound schemes quickly through the Settings
Centre or is pressing space bar repeatedly the only option?

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

Wishing you, your family, friends & work colleagues a very prosperous 2012.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
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Re: Help in using Settings Centre

Dean Martineau <dean@...>
 

Press F6 when on the tree. This takes you to the configuration pane, where
you interact with a combo box. In the configuration pane, press tab to see
a description of each scheme.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 6:53 AM
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Subject: Help in using Settings Centre


Dear List Friends,

In the Speech & Sound Schemes option in the Settings Centre, the sound
scheme selected by default is Classic. When I want to change the sound
scheme to Web Rent a Crowd scheme, I have to press the space bar nearly
fifteen times. Pressing W takes me out of the sound scheme option to another
option further down the main list.

Is there any way of changing sound schemes quickly through the Settings
Centre or is pressing space bar repeatedly the only option?

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

Wishing you, your family, friends & work colleagues a very prosperous 2012.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
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