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Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

We did that, and we don't see a save attachments option.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail


I don't currently have a message with an attachment to see if this is correct. But, when on the attachment button, try pressing the applications key and using the up or down arrows to find "Save attachment". I think it's there.

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:33 PM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Save attachments in windows live mail

A friend of mine has windows live mail. We are trying to save an attachment through JAWS. I sent her an attachment which is a wav file. She received the mail, and we see a button giving the name and size of the file, but it only offers an open option. How do we save the attachment in windows live mail?

Thank you.
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Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

Cindy
 

I don't currently have a message with an attachment to see if this is correct. But, when on the attachment button, try pressing the applications key and using the up or down arrows to find "Save attachment". I think it's there.

Cindy

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From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:33 PM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Save attachments in windows live mail

A friend of mine has windows live mail. We are trying to save an attachment through JAWS. I sent her an attachment which is a wav file. She received the mail, and we see a button giving the name and size of the file, but it only offers an open option. How do we save the attachment in windows live mail?

Thank you.
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Save attachments in windows live mail

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A friend of mine has windows live mail. We are trying to save an attachment through JAWS. I sent her an attachment which is a wav file. She received the mail, and we see a button giving the name and size of the file, but it only offers an open option. How do we save the attachment in windows live mail?

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Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Dave...
 

Guy,

Thanks for the tip. However I'll note that in all my machines, and in all my
operating systems, and in all my versions of JAWS, I've always had the
maximum amount of RAM that the operating system would address. In my case
with always being 32-bit, have 4 G of RAM installed.

I do grant that JAWS is a memory hog, and I even contend that it still
suffers from some rather serious memory leaks, or encroachment in the object
model space by other applications. So far we're still in the dark and must
conclude that we have a Hydra on our hands, and we cannot possibly shear all
the snakes with only a few occasional strokes of the sword.



Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: <guy.castonguay@parl.gc.ca>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:03
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


Just thought I'd put in my 0.02 cents here. Our techs and I have searched a
long while to figure this one out and concluded that the amount of RAM that
your computer or laptop holds is the culprit. You must have the recommended
amount as your machine chokes while trying to process the request we throw
at them. Screen readers are memory hogs and our machines are good but not
quite up to the task as of yet.

Regards
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Re: reference function of Excel

Dave...
 

Ngoc,

Found what I think solves your problem.

There is an Excel keystroke Ctrl+~ (the grave accent / tilde key left of the
#1) that turns on/off formula mode. Try it.

If that doesn't work, then another keystroke offered by Excel help is Ctrl+'

For Excel 2007 the hotkey command to toggle this is Alt+m, then h.

However I do not know the equivalent Alt hotkey combination in Excel 2003 --
perhaps it's the same?

Have fun!


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:35
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


Hi friend,

Whenever I want to read the formular bar, I press f2.

is there another way to read the formular bar?



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Scott,

You do not need a script to read it. I have no problems reading reference
text, and have been able to do so several JAWS versions back.

I think your problem is that you need to set JAWS to read formulas, or to
make sure that you are reading the formula bar in the Excel options.

This is a setup problem with your Excel and not a limitation of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:50
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


oh, I hope one day someone will make a script to read the reference text.

Thank you very much



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

There is no JAWS keystroke involved in reading that text. If you can read
the text on sheet1 with JAWS you should still be able to read the reference
text on sheet2. I think you need to enable reading formulas in JAWS to read
formulas.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:09
Subject: reference function of Excel


Dear friends,

I am using jaws 12 and Excel 2003. When I use function of reference, I want
to read the texts appear on screen.

For example, in sheet1, cell b3 the text inside is “address”. I want the
text in cell b3 of sheet1 appears at cell f5 of sheet 2.
At cell f5, I type equal sign = then press ctrl+page up to sheet1. Then I
move arrow to b3. Jaws says sheet1!b3 but doesn’t say the text “address” in
b3. At that time, the text of sheet1 appears on cell f5 of sheet2. I can
read the text by invisible cursor.
My question is that if there is a keystroke for saying the text

Thank you very much and Best luck
Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
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Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Guy Castonguay
 

Just thought I'd put in my 0.02 cents here. Our techs and I have searched a long while to figure this one out and concluded that the amount of RAM that your computer or laptop holds is the culprit. You must have the recommended amount as your machine chokes while trying to process the request we throw at them. Screen readers are memory hogs and our machines are good but not quite up to the task as of yet.

Regards
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Re: Ghost Mouse

Dave...
 

Brandon,

You're experiencing the famous key sticking problem that's been part of JAWS
since version 3.5. I don't know how or why the Ctrl key sticking is making
your mouse cursor move, but any of the modifier keys (shift, Windows, Alt,
Ctrl) can be programmatically "stuck" in the keyboard buffer and alter all
subsequent keystrokes.

The resolution when it happens (and for me it happens every few days) is to
rapidly tap both keys in sequence several times, left/right/left/right etc.
I do this for Shift, Alt, Ctrl, and Windows. Then Escape to clear out
anything partially opened.

It usually fixes the problem.

Sounds like you do the same thing by holding down the Ctrl key, but either
key of the pairs can be the culprit.

Thanks for giving us the additional details on your "Ghost Mouse".


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 09:27
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
It doesn't. I've just been hitting buttons and all of a sudden it will
manifest. The way I found it was control was that I was altabbing when it
began and it started saying ctrl alt tab.
Sometimes I guess it will just do ctrl for a little while, one character
press, and other times it will be a lock I have to cancel by holding down
control for 10 seconds.
I have my mouse pad disabled, so idk what's going on.
Windows 7 on an HP laptop running Jaws 11. I don't see the sanaptics
pointing device in my system tray.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Brandon,

How does this control lock announce itself? Never heard of it.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 08:39
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
So with a little more use with this Ghost Mouse, I've found often times
after not touching the mouse pad for a while If I touch it, there is a ctrl
lock that comes on.
I'm not sure how this moves my pointer, except if there is a ctrl letter
combination that moves you around the screen.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Ghost Mouse

Hello there;

Well, I think the situation is,
Yes you check the box;
checked the box that said "Disable tapping"
however I think if you want to disable, then you'll need to disable in the
device manager,
or, go into the
start menu edit box,
type mouse,
enter on mouse,
shift+tab right arrow to devices and disable there.

If you need the mouse for some reason,
Then?
You could turn it on.
Do you see,
Synaptics Pointing Device
In your system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Do you perhaps have a roller ball, or a track ball, or a slider bar that you
don't know about? Can't imagine what's moving the cursor, unless you have
something loose inside.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:14
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
My mouse pad is disabled, I am tapping and banging a Tyco routine on the
touchpad and nothing's happening.
Unless there is a special movement that activates the clicker I'm not
doing... I'm trying the Kentucky slide and it's not clicking either.
But it's still jumping up to random spots while I'm typing.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

No, if you have disabled both your mouse pad and the buttons, you should not
be having any erratic movement of the cursor. Were you able to find those
places to disable the mouse, as earlier directed?

If those steps did not work, then you may need to have someone help you
disable the mouse in the System BIOS itself. It may not be manageable via
standard drivers, if it's an embedded part of your laptop.

I had to do that on my older Dell -- use the BIOS to completely disable both
the touchpad and touchstick.

Fortunately on this newer Dell there is an Fn key that disables/enables the
mouse and touchstick -- very cool. In my case it's Fn key plus F5.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:50
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I felt down and around every single key on my keyboard and I didn't feel
anything other than plastic key and the little space between.
I also don't see anything for a touch stick in my mouse settings.
I wonder if it's faulty drivers?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Yes, I don't know HP laptops, but in my case, the touchstick is not really a
stick, but a round button fairly flush with the surrounding keys. It's not
always obvious, so make sure to hunt for one, just in case.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 07:44
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
there is no touch stick I can feel, this is an HP laptop.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

If this is a Dell laptop, then there is both a pad and a touchstick. both
need to be disabled. As suggested, for mouse work, just connect a simple USB
mouse for that.

Touchstick is located between G, H, V, and N.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 23:47
Subject: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I’m wondering if anyone knows what’s going on:
I disabled the tapping feature on my mouse pad so sighted people could use
the mouse with the buttons. I know it’s disabled because when I tap it or
move my fingers along it nothing happens except for the mouse to move.
I’m still having the same problem I had when the mouse was enabled. At
random times I’m jumped to different windows, I’m moved to different places
in a document or email at random times and sometimes when I’m typing a
random bunch of text will be selected and deleted when I keep on typing.
Other people who have tested on my computer haven’t had this problem, so I’m
wondering if there is a way to find if there are some touch pads that aren’t
obvious that my hand position brushes? I don’t see anything except maybe
around the mouse pad or keys. There are lights around my spacebar and mouse
pad.
I’m running Windows 7 with Jaws 11. This jumping happens at random times and
in any application.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: Ghost Mouse

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
It doesn't. I've just been hitting buttons and all of a sudden it will manifest. The way I found it was control was that I was altabbing when it began and it started saying ctrl alt tab.
Sometimes I guess it will just do ctrl for a little while, one character press, and other times it will be a lock I have to cancel by holding down control for 10 seconds.
I have my mouse pad disabled, so idk what's going on.
Windows 7 on an HP laptop running Jaws 11. I don't see the sanaptics pointing device in my system tray.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Brandon,

How does this control lock announce itself? Never heard of it.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 08:39
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
So with a little more use with this Ghost Mouse, I've found often times
after not touching the mouse pad for a while If I touch it, there is a ctrl
lock that comes on.
I'm not sure how this moves my pointer, except if there is a ctrl letter
combination that moves you around the screen.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Ghost Mouse

Hello there;

Well, I think the situation is,
Yes you check the box;
checked the box that said "Disable tapping"
however I think if you want to disable, then you'll need to disable in the
device manager,
or, go into the
start menu edit box,
type mouse,
enter on mouse,
shift+tab right arrow to devices and disable there.

If you need the mouse for some reason,
Then?
You could turn it on.
Do you see,
Synaptics Pointing Device
In your system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Do you perhaps have a roller ball, or a track ball, or a slider bar that you
don't know about? Can't imagine what's moving the cursor, unless you have
something loose inside.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:14
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
My mouse pad is disabled, I am tapping and banging a Tyco routine on the
touchpad and nothing's happening.
Unless there is a special movement that activates the clicker I'm not
doing... I'm trying the Kentucky slide and it's not clicking either.
But it's still jumping up to random spots while I'm typing.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

No, if you have disabled both your mouse pad and the buttons, you should not
be having any erratic movement of the cursor. Were you able to find those
places to disable the mouse, as earlier directed?

If those steps did not work, then you may need to have someone help you
disable the mouse in the System BIOS itself. It may not be manageable via
standard drivers, if it's an embedded part of your laptop.

I had to do that on my older Dell -- use the BIOS to completely disable both
the touchpad and touchstick.

Fortunately on this newer Dell there is an Fn key that disables/enables the
mouse and touchstick -- very cool. In my case it's Fn key plus F5.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:50
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I felt down and around every single key on my keyboard and I didn't feel
anything other than plastic key and the little space between.
I also don't see anything for a touch stick in my mouse settings.
I wonder if it's faulty drivers?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Yes, I don't know HP laptops, but in my case, the touchstick is not really a
stick, but a round button fairly flush with the surrounding keys. It's not
always obvious, so make sure to hunt for one, just in case.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 07:44
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
there is no touch stick I can feel, this is an HP laptop.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

If this is a Dell laptop, then there is both a pad and a touchstick. both
need to be disabled. As suggested, for mouse work, just connect a simple USB
mouse for that.

Touchstick is located between G, H, V, and N.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 23:47
Subject: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I’m wondering if anyone knows what’s going on:
I disabled the tapping feature on my mouse pad so sighted people could use
the mouse with the buttons. I know it’s disabled because when I tap it or
move my fingers along it nothing happens except for the mouse to move.
I’m still having the same problem I had when the mouse was enabled. At
random times I’m jumped to different windows, I’m moved to different places
in a document or email at random times and sometimes when I’m typing a
random bunch of text will be selected and deleted when I keep on typing.
Other people who have tested on my computer haven’t had this problem, so I’m
wondering if there is a way to find if there are some touch pads that aren’t
obvious that my hand position brushes? I don’t see anything except maybe
around the mouse pad or keys. There are lights around my spacebar and mouse
pad.
I’m running Windows 7 with Jaws 11. This jumping happens at random times and
in any application.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

If I'd known how easy it was to fix, I'd simply have fixed it and gone
on.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

Sure can't help you there. I do the same, most mornings.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 08:23
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


Usually it doesn't. this was just a freak thing. The only thing I can
say is it sometimes wakes up cranky.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

What? What problems does the screen lock cause with JAWS?


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:02
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


I guess it's only fair, as it caused the problem with JAWS.

Ted
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

Okay, we do the same, here. Windows + L locks the screen,
Ctrl+Alt+Delete to invoke the password prompt to unlock again. Gets to
be a habit, doesn't it?

Strange that it should resolve the problem with JAWS.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:45
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


It's what happens when you invoke a screen saver. As we deal with
sensitive data, we do an alt-ctrl-delete when we walk away; I guess I
should have used the word "lock" to describe the function.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

"Freeze the screen"? Please explain.

I don't like mysteries.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:12
Subject: FW: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


After I sent this, I began to notice other problems, including the
reading of "Not Selected," something that I know was fixed in this
build. Moving around other apps showed other bizarre behavior,
especially with JAWS cursor. Most areas were blank. Before going into
full-scale panic, I decided to freeze the screen, as though I were going
on break, and then come right back in-all problems disappeared!



Ted



From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:01 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007



This is new, and I figured I'd run it past you guys before calling IT
again! In looking at the various fields in 2007 (to, from, CC, Subject)
I cannot simply read the entire line, but must cursor around, requiring
several keystrokes, rather than just one. Attempts to read by line give
me only "blank"s. I'm using JFW, latest build, and win 7. As I said,
this is a new problem, and it applies to both read messages, and
messages I compose. The summaries look fine; problems begin when I
open.



Ted



PS Hot dog! I can't spell check either-"not available" doesn't tell you
much.



Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.





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Re: Ghost Mouse

Dave...
 

Brandon,

How does this control lock announce itself? Never heard of it.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 08:39
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
So with a little more use with this Ghost Mouse, I've found often times
after not touching the mouse pad for a while If I touch it, there is a ctrl
lock that comes on.
I'm not sure how this moves my pointer, except if there is a ctrl letter
combination that moves you around the screen.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Ghost Mouse

Hello there;

Well, I think the situation is,
Yes you check the box;
checked the box that said "Disable tapping"
however I think if you want to disable, then you'll need to disable in the
device manager,
or, go into the
start menu edit box,
type mouse,
enter on mouse,
shift+tab right arrow to devices and disable there.

If you need the mouse for some reason,
Then?
You could turn it on.
Do you see,
Synaptics Pointing Device
In your system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Do you perhaps have a roller ball, or a track ball, or a slider bar that you
don't know about? Can't imagine what's moving the cursor, unless you have
something loose inside.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:14
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
My mouse pad is disabled, I am tapping and banging a Tyco routine on the
touchpad and nothing's happening.
Unless there is a special movement that activates the clicker I'm not
doing... I'm trying the Kentucky slide and it's not clicking either.
But it's still jumping up to random spots while I'm typing.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

No, if you have disabled both your mouse pad and the buttons, you should not
be having any erratic movement of the cursor. Were you able to find those
places to disable the mouse, as earlier directed?

If those steps did not work, then you may need to have someone help you
disable the mouse in the System BIOS itself. It may not be manageable via
standard drivers, if it's an embedded part of your laptop.

I had to do that on my older Dell -- use the BIOS to completely disable both
the touchpad and touchstick.

Fortunately on this newer Dell there is an Fn key that disables/enables the
mouse and touchstick -- very cool. In my case it's Fn key plus F5.

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----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:50
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I felt down and around every single key on my keyboard and I didn't feel
anything other than plastic key and the little space between.
I also don't see anything for a touch stick in my mouse settings.
I wonder if it's faulty drivers?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Yes, I don't know HP laptops, but in my case, the touchstick is not really a
stick, but a round button fairly flush with the surrounding keys. It's not
always obvious, so make sure to hunt for one, just in case.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 07:44
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
there is no touch stick I can feel, this is an HP laptop.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

If this is a Dell laptop, then there is both a pad and a touchstick. both
need to be disabled. As suggested, for mouse work, just connect a simple USB
mouse for that.

Touchstick is located between G, H, V, and N.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 23:47
Subject: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I’m wondering if anyone knows what’s going on:
I disabled the tapping feature on my mouse pad so sighted people could use
the mouse with the buttons. I know it’s disabled because when I tap it or
move my fingers along it nothing happens except for the mouse to move.
I’m still having the same problem I had when the mouse was enabled. At
random times I’m jumped to different windows, I’m moved to different places
in a document or email at random times and sometimes when I’m typing a
random bunch of text will be selected and deleted when I keep on typing.
Other people who have tested on my computer haven’t had this problem, so I’m
wondering if there is a way to find if there are some touch pads that aren’t
obvious that my hand position brushes? I don’t see anything except maybe
around the mouse pad or keys. There are lights around my spacebar and mouse
pad.
I’m running Windows 7 with Jaws 11. This jumping happens at random times and
in any application.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Dave...
 

RJ,

First, it is not an automatic feature, although I wish it was. I do it
manually and you will sometimes catch if I forget to change something like
Monday to Tuesday, when it's already Wednesday. It's just a bit of fun I
have when I can remember to do it.

Here's how, in the least number of keystrokes:


1. Alt+T, A.
2. Alt+P,Tab.
3. type or edit as desired.
4. Enter, Shift+tab, Enter.

Done.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:33
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


I'm using outlook express as my email cliet. I like "FarFar getting
arround." How do I set this up? RJ
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


Ted,

"Freeze the screen"? Please explain.

I don't like mysteries.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:12
Subject: FW: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


After I sent this, I began to notice other problems, including the
reading of "Not Selected," something that I know was fixed in this
build. Moving around other apps showed other bizarre behavior,
especially with JAWS cursor. Most areas were blank. Before going into
full-scale panic, I decided to freeze the screen, as though I were going
on break, and then come right back in-all problems disappeared!



Ted



From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:01 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007



This is new, and I figured I'd run it past you guys before calling IT
again! In looking at the various fields in 2007 (to, from, CC, Subject)
I cannot simply read the entire line, but must cursor around, requiring
several keystrokes, rather than just one. Attempts to read by line give
me only "blank"s. I'm using JFW, latest build, and win 7. As I said,
this is a new problem, and it applies to both read messages, and
messages I compose. The summaries look fine; problems begin when I
open.



Ted



PS Hot dog! I can't spell check either-"not available" doesn't tell you
much.



Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.





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Re: reference function of Excel

Dave...
 

Ngoc,

Okay, I think I may have thought of something.
First to make sure I understand:

You hear sheet1!B3 and you want to hear address. Is that correct?

Well, what you are hearing is the actual formula and not the result, as you
explained.

There is a setting in Excel that turns off formula detection. I believe that
it is a keystroke. Unfortunately I no longer have Excel 2003 and things are
different now on 2007.

In fact, I have sometimes pressed this key combination by accident and it is
very irritating. So I hope someone has the answer so I can try to remember
for myself next time it occurs.

But you should be able to find a help file to explain how to turn off the
formula display mode so that you do not hear the formula, but just the
result.

I do not think there is a JAWS setting that affects this. I think it is all
in the Excel setup.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:35
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


Hi friend,

Whenever I want to read the formular bar, I press f2.

is there another way to read the formular bar?



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Scott,

You do not need a script to read it. I have no problems reading reference
text, and have been able to do so several JAWS versions back.

I think your problem is that you need to set JAWS to read formulas, or to
make sure that you are reading the formula bar in the Excel options.

This is a setup problem with your Excel and not a limitation of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:50
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


oh, I hope one day someone will make a script to read the reference text.

Thank you very much



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

There is no JAWS keystroke involved in reading that text. If you can read
the text on sheet1 with JAWS you should still be able to read the reference
text on sheet2. I think you need to enable reading formulas in JAWS to read
formulas.

Dave Carlson
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:09
Subject: reference function of Excel


Dear friends,

I am using jaws 12 and Excel 2003. When I use function of reference, I want
to read the texts appear on screen.

For example, in sheet1, cell b3 the text inside is “address”. I want the
text in cell b3 of sheet1 appears at cell f5 of sheet 2.
At cell f5, I type equal sign = then press ctrl+page up to sheet1. Then I
move arrow to b3. Jaws says sheet1!b3 but doesn’t say the text “address” in
b3. At that time, the text of sheet1 appears on cell f5 of sheet2. I can
read the text by invisible cursor.
My question is that if there is a keystroke for saying the text

Thank you very much and Best luck
Ngoc Ly
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Re: Ghost Mouse

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
So with a little more use with this Ghost Mouse, I've found often times after not touching the mouse pad for a while If I touch it, there is a ctrl lock that comes on.
I'm not sure how this moves my pointer, except if there is a ctrl letter combination that moves you around the screen.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Ghost Mouse

Hello there;

Well, I think the situation is,
Yes you check the box;
checked the box that said "Disable tapping"
however I think if you want to disable, then you'll need to disable in the device manager,
or, go into the
start menu edit box,
type mouse,
enter on mouse,
shift+tab right arrow to devices and disable there.

If you need the mouse for some reason,
Then?
You could turn it on.
Do you see,
Synaptics Pointing Device
In your system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Do you perhaps have a roller ball, or a track ball, or a slider bar that you
don't know about? Can't imagine what's moving the cursor, unless you have
something loose inside.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:14
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
My mouse pad is disabled, I am tapping and banging a Tyco routine on the
touchpad and nothing's happening.
Unless there is a special movement that activates the clicker I'm not
doing... I'm trying the Kentucky slide and it's not clicking either.
But it's still jumping up to random spots while I'm typing.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

No, if you have disabled both your mouse pad and the buttons, you should not
be having any erratic movement of the cursor. Were you able to find those
places to disable the mouse, as earlier directed?

If those steps did not work, then you may need to have someone help you
disable the mouse in the System BIOS itself. It may not be manageable via
standard drivers, if it's an embedded part of your laptop.

I had to do that on my older Dell -- use the BIOS to completely disable both
the touchpad and touchstick.

Fortunately on this newer Dell there is an Fn key that disables/enables the
mouse and touchstick -- very cool. In my case it's Fn key plus F5.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:50
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I felt down and around every single key on my keyboard and I didn't feel
anything other than plastic key and the little space between.
I also don't see anything for a touch stick in my mouse settings.
I wonder if it's faulty drivers?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Yes, I don't know HP laptops, but in my case, the touchstick is not really a
stick, but a round button fairly flush with the surrounding keys. It's not
always obvious, so make sure to hunt for one, just in case.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 07:44
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
there is no touch stick I can feel, this is an HP laptop.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

If this is a Dell laptop, then there is both a pad and a touchstick. both
need to be disabled. As suggested, for mouse work, just connect a simple USB
mouse for that.

Touchstick is located between G, H, V, and N.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 23:47
Subject: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I’m wondering if anyone knows what’s going on:
I disabled the tapping feature on my mouse pad so sighted people could use
the mouse with the buttons. I know it’s disabled because when I tap it or
move my fingers along it nothing happens except for the mouse to move.
I’m still having the same problem I had when the mouse was enabled. At
random times I’m jumped to different windows, I’m moved to different places
in a document or email at random times and sometimes when I’m typing a
random bunch of text will be selected and deleted when I keep on typing.
Other people who have tested on my computer haven’t had this problem, so I’m
wondering if there is a way to find if there are some touch pads that aren’t
obvious that my hand position brushes? I don’t see anything except maybe
around the mouse pad or keys. There are lights around my spacebar and mouse
pad.
I’m running Windows 7 with Jaws 11. This jumping happens at random times and
in any application.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Dave...
 

Ted,

Sure can't help you there. I do the same, most mornings.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 08:23
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


Usually it doesn't. this was just a freak thing. The only thing I can
say is it sometimes wakes up cranky.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:21 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

What? What problems does the screen lock cause with JAWS?


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:02
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


I guess it's only fair, as it caused the problem with JAWS.

Ted
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

Okay, we do the same, here. Windows + L locks the screen,
Ctrl+Alt+Delete to invoke the password prompt to unlock again. Gets to
be a habit, doesn't it?

Strange that it should resolve the problem with JAWS.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:45
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


It's what happens when you invoke a screen saver. As we deal with
sensitive data, we do an alt-ctrl-delete when we walk away; I guess I
should have used the word "lock" to describe the function.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

"Freeze the screen"? Please explain.

I don't like mysteries.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:12
Subject: FW: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


After I sent this, I began to notice other problems, including the
reading of "Not Selected," something that I know was fixed in this
build. Moving around other apps showed other bizarre behavior,
especially with JAWS cursor. Most areas were blank. Before going into
full-scale panic, I decided to freeze the screen, as though I were going
on break, and then come right back in-all problems disappeared!



Ted



From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:01 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007



This is new, and I figured I'd run it past you guys before calling IT
again! In looking at the various fields in 2007 (to, from, CC, Subject)
I cannot simply read the entire line, but must cursor around, requiring
several keystrokes, rather than just one. Attempts to read by line give
me only "blank"s. I'm using JFW, latest build, and win 7. As I said,
this is a new problem, and it applies to both read messages, and
messages I compose. The summaries look fine; problems begin when I
open.



Ted



PS Hot dog! I can't spell check either-"not available" doesn't tell you
much.



Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.





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Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Usually it doesn't. this was just a freak thing. The only thing I can
say is it sometimes wakes up cranky.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:21 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

What? What problems does the screen lock cause with JAWS?


Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:02
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


I guess it's only fair, as it caused the problem with JAWS.

Ted
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

Okay, we do the same, here. Windows + L locks the screen,
Ctrl+Alt+Delete to invoke the password prompt to unlock again. Gets to
be a habit, doesn't it?

Strange that it should resolve the problem with JAWS.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:45
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


It's what happens when you invoke a screen saver. As we deal with
sensitive data, we do an alt-ctrl-delete when we walk away; I guess I
should have used the word "lock" to describe the function.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

"Freeze the screen"? Please explain.

I don't like mysteries.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:12
Subject: FW: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


After I sent this, I began to notice other problems, including the
reading of "Not Selected," something that I know was fixed in this
build. Moving around other apps showed other bizarre behavior,
especially with JAWS cursor. Most areas were blank. Before going into
full-scale panic, I decided to freeze the screen, as though I were going
on break, and then come right back in-all problems disappeared!



Ted



From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:01 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007



This is new, and I figured I'd run it past you guys before calling IT
again! In looking at the various fields in 2007 (to, from, CC, Subject)
I cannot simply read the entire line, but must cursor around, requiring
several keystrokes, rather than just one. Attempts to read by line give
me only "blank"s. I'm using JFW, latest build, and win 7. As I said,
this is a new problem, and it applies to both read messages, and
messages I compose. The summaries look fine; problems begin when I
open.



Ted



PS Hot dog! I can't spell check either-"not available" doesn't tell you
much.



Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.





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Re: reference function of Excel

Dave...
 

Ngoc, when I get to a place where I can boot up my laptop I'll see what I can do to help.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
Date: 04-03-2012 07:37

Hi friend,

Whenever I want to read the formular bar, I press f2.

is there another way to read the formular bar?



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Scott,

You do not need a script to read it. I have no problems reading reference
text, and have been able to do so several JAWS versions back.

I think your problem is that you need to set JAWS to read formulas, or to
make sure that you are reading the formula bar in the Excel options.

This is a setup problem with your Excel and not a limitation of JAWS.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:50
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


oh, I hope one day someone will make a script to read the reference text.

Thank you very much



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

There is no JAWS keystroke involved in reading that text. If you can read
the text on sheet1 with JAWS you should still be able to read the reference
text on sheet2. I think you need to enable reading formulas in JAWS to read
formulas.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:09
Subject: reference function of Excel


Dear friends,

I am using jaws 12 and Excel 2003. When I use function of reference, I want
to read the texts appear on screen.

For example, in sheet1, cell b3 the text inside is “address”. I want the
text in cell b3 of sheet1 appears at cell f5 of sheet 2.
At cell f5, I type equal sign = then press ctrl+page up to sheet1. Then I
move arrow to b3. Jaws says sheet1!b3 but doesn’t say the text “address” in
b3. At that time, the text of sheet1 appears on cell f5 of sheet2. I can
read the text by invisible cursor.
My question is that if there is a keystroke for saying the text

Thank you very much and Best luck
Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
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Re: reference function of Excel

Ngoc Ly <lyvanngoc@...>
 

Hi friend,

Whenever I want to read the formular bar, I press f2.

is there another way to read the formular bar?



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Scott,

You do not need a script to read it. I have no problems reading reference
text, and have been able to do so several JAWS versions back.

I think your problem is that you need to set JAWS to read formulas, or to
make sure that you are reading the formula bar in the Excel options.

This is a setup problem with your Excel and not a limitation of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:50
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


oh, I hope one day someone will make a script to read the reference text.

Thank you very much



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

There is no JAWS keystroke involved in reading that text. If you can read
the text on sheet1 with JAWS you should still be able to read the reference
text on sheet2. I think you need to enable reading formulas in JAWS to read
formulas.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:09
Subject: reference function of Excel


Dear friends,

I am using jaws 12 and Excel 2003. When I use function of reference, I want
to read the texts appear on screen.

For example, in sheet1, cell b3 the text inside is “address”. I want the
text in cell b3 of sheet1 appears at cell f5 of sheet 2.
At cell f5, I type equal sign = then press ctrl+page up to sheet1. Then I
move arrow to b3. Jaws says sheet1!b3 but doesn’t say the text “address” in
b3. At that time, the text of sheet1 appears on cell f5 of sheet2. I can
read the text by invisible cursor.
My question is that if there is a keystroke for saying the text

Thank you very much and Best luck
Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
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Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

RJ Sandefur
 

I'm using outlook express as my email cliet. I like "FarFar getting arround." How do I set this up? RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar, on a Roll" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


Ted,

"Freeze the screen"? Please explain.

I don't like mysteries.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:12
Subject: FW: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


After I sent this, I began to notice other problems, including the
reading of "Not Selected," something that I know was fixed in this
build. Moving around other apps showed other bizarre behavior,
especially with JAWS cursor. Most areas were blank. Before going into
full-scale panic, I decided to freeze the screen, as though I were going
on break, and then come right back in-all problems disappeared!



Ted



From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:01 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007



This is new, and I figured I'd run it past you guys before calling IT
again! In looking at the various fields in 2007 (to, from, CC, Subject)
I cannot simply read the entire line, but must cursor around, requiring
several keystrokes, rather than just one. Attempts to read by line give
me only "blank"s. I'm using JFW, latest build, and win 7. As I said,
this is a new problem, and it applies to both read messages, and
messages I compose. The summaries look fine; problems begin when I
open.



Ted



PS Hot dog! I can't spell check either-"not available" doesn't tell you
much.



Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.





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Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Dave...
 

Ted,

What? What problems does the screen lock cause with JAWS?


Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:02
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


I guess it's only fair, as it caused the problem with JAWS.

Ted
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

Okay, we do the same, here. Windows + L locks the screen,
Ctrl+Alt+Delete to invoke the password prompt to unlock again. Gets to
be a habit, doesn't it?

Strange that it should resolve the problem with JAWS.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:45
Subject: RE: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


It's what happens when you invoke a screen saver. As we deal with
sensitive data, we do an alt-ctrl-delete when we walk away; I guess I
should have used the word "lock" to describe the function.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007

Ted,

"Freeze the screen"? Please explain.

I don't like mysteries.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:12
Subject: FW: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007


After I sent this, I began to notice other problems, including the
reading of "Not Selected," something that I know was fixed in this
build. Moving around other apps showed other bizarre behavior,
especially with JAWS cursor. Most areas were blank. Before going into
full-scale panic, I decided to freeze the screen, as though I were going
on break, and then come right back in-all problems disappeared!



Ted



From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:01 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Problem with read-by-line in Outlook 2007



This is new, and I figured I'd run it past you guys before calling IT
again! In looking at the various fields in 2007 (to, from, CC, Subject)
I cannot simply read the entire line, but must cursor around, requiring
several keystrokes, rather than just one. Attempts to read by line give
me only "blank"s. I'm using JFW, latest build, and win 7. As I said,
this is a new problem, and it applies to both read messages, and
messages I compose. The summaries look fine; problems begin when I
open.



Ted



PS Hot dog! I can't spell check either-"not available" doesn't tell you
much.



Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.





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Re: reference function of Excel

Dave...
 

Scott,

You do not need a script to read it. I have no problems reading reference
text, and have been able to do so several JAWS versions back.

I think your problem is that you need to set JAWS to read formulas, or to
make sure that you are reading the formula bar in the Excel options.

This is a setup problem with your Excel and not a limitation of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:50
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


oh, I hope one day someone will make a script to read the reference text.

Thank you very much



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

There is no JAWS keystroke involved in reading that text. If you can read
the text on sheet1 with JAWS you should still be able to read the reference
text on sheet2. I think you need to enable reading formulas in JAWS to read
formulas.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:09
Subject: reference function of Excel


Dear friends,

I am using jaws 12 and Excel 2003. When I use function of reference, I want
to read the texts appear on screen.

For example, in sheet1, cell b3 the text inside is “address”. I want the
text in cell b3 of sheet1 appears at cell f5 of sheet 2.
At cell f5, I type equal sign = then press ctrl+page up to sheet1. Then I
move arrow to b3. Jaws says sheet1!b3 but doesn’t say the text “address” in
b3. At that time, the text of sheet1 appears on cell f5 of sheet2. I can
read the text by invisible cursor.
My question is that if there is a keystroke for saying the text

Thank you very much and Best luck
Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
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