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Re: Ghost Mouse

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hey Dave,
Has absolutely nothing to do with sticking keys,
However, in the message,
It was mentioned,
That the
Synaptics Pointing Device
Didn't show in the system tray.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

David,

Not sure what that has to do with the sticking keys problem?

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 14:07
Subject: RE: Ghost Mouse


Hello there;

If you would like to have the:
Sanaptics pointing device
Listed/show in your system tray;

1, start menu edit box,
Type, mouse, enter.

Now, shift+tab,
Right arrow to device,
Now tab and check the box,
To place in system tray.
Then tab okay enter.


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Brandon,

You're experiencing the famous key sticking problem that's been part of JAWS
since version 3.5. I don't know how or why the Ctrl key sticking is making
your mouse cursor move, but any of the modifier keys (shift, Windows, Alt,
Ctrl) can be programmatically "stuck" in the keyboard buffer and alter all
subsequent keystrokes.

The resolution when it happens (and for me it happens every few days) is to
rapidly tap both keys in sequence several times, left/right/left/right etc.
I do this for Shift, Alt, Ctrl, and Windows. Then Escape to clear out
anything partially opened.

It usually fixes the problem.

Sounds like you do the same thing by holding down the Ctrl key, but either
key of the pairs can be the culprit.

Thanks for giving us the additional details on your "Ghost Mouse".


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 09:27
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
It doesn't. I've just been hitting buttons and all of a sudden it will
manifest. The way I found it was control was that I was altabbing when it
began and it started saying ctrl alt tab.
Sometimes I guess it will just do ctrl for a little while, one character
press, and other times it will be a lock I have to cancel by holding down
control for 10 seconds.
I have my mouse pad disabled, so idk what's going on.
Windows 7 on an HP laptop running Jaws 11. I don't see the sanaptics
pointing device in my system tray.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Brandon,

How does this control lock announce itself? Never heard of it.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 08:39
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
So with a little more use with this Ghost Mouse, I've found often times
after not touching the mouse pad for a while If I touch it, there is a ctrl
lock that comes on.
I'm not sure how this moves my pointer, except if there is a ctrl letter
combination that moves you around the screen.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Ghost Mouse

Hello there;

Well, I think the situation is,
Yes you check the box;
checked the box that said "Disable tapping"
however I think if you want to disable, then you'll need to disable in the
device manager,
or, go into the
start menu edit box,
type mouse,
enter on mouse,
shift+tab right arrow to devices and disable there.

If you need the mouse for some reason,
Then?
You could turn it on.
Do you see,
Synaptics Pointing Device
In your system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Do you perhaps have a roller ball, or a track ball, or a slider bar that you
don't know about? Can't imagine what's moving the cursor, unless you have
something loose inside.

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----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:14
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
My mouse pad is disabled, I am tapping and banging a Tyco routine on the
touchpad and nothing's happening.
Unless there is a special movement that activates the clicker I'm not
doing... I'm trying the Kentucky slide and it's not clicking either.
But it's still jumping up to random spots while I'm typing.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

No, if you have disabled both your mouse pad and the buttons, you should not
be having any erratic movement of the cursor. Were you able to find those
places to disable the mouse, as earlier directed?

If those steps did not work, then you may need to have someone help you
disable the mouse in the System BIOS itself. It may not be manageable via
standard drivers, if it's an embedded part of your laptop.

I had to do that on my older Dell -- use the BIOS to completely disable both
the touchpad and touchstick.

Fortunately on this newer Dell there is an Fn key that disables/enables the
mouse and touchstick -- very cool. In my case it's Fn key plus F5.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:50
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I felt down and around every single key on my keyboard and I didn't feel
anything other than plastic key and the little space between.
I also don't see anything for a touch stick in my mouse settings.
I wonder if it's faulty drivers?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

Yes, I don't know HP laptops, but in my case, the touchstick is not really a
stick, but a round button fairly flush with the surrounding keys. It's not
always obvious, so make sure to hunt for one, just in case.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 07:44
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
there is no touch stick I can feel, this is an HP laptop.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on a Tuesday
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ghost Mouse

If this is a Dell laptop, then there is both a pad and a touchstick. both
need to be disabled. As suggested, for mouse work, just connect a simple USB
mouse for that.

Touchstick is located between G, H, V, and N.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 23:47
Subject: Ghost Mouse


Hello,
I’m wondering if anyone knows what’s going on:
I disabled the tapping feature on my mouse pad so sighted people could use
the mouse with the buttons. I know it’s disabled because when I tap it or
move my fingers along it nothing happens except for the mouse to move.
I’m still having the same problem I had when the mouse was enabled. At
random times I’m jumped to different windows, I’m moved to different places
in a document or email at random times and sometimes when I’m typing a
random bunch of text will be selected and deleted when I keep on typing.
Other people who have tested on my computer haven’t had this problem, so I’m
wondering if there is a way to find if there are some touch pads that aren’t
obvious that my hand position brushes? I don’t see anything except maybe
around the mouse pad or keys. There are lights around my spacebar and mouse
pad.
I’m running Windows 7 with Jaws 11. This jumping happens at random times and
in any application.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Formating Windows Live Mail?

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi, I am using Windows 7 with Jaws 13. I have to take a crash course on Windows Live Mail and was womdering if anyone could show me how to set up the formating of WLM so that when I paste something from Word or Word pad that it looks good.. I send out reports for the Talking Information Center each day and I would like these reports to be pleasant for the readers to see. I will appreciate any and all help.. Andy and Shubert
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Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Dave...
 

Brandon,

We're discussing what to do when IE crashes, and there's no JAWS speaking,
either. Adrian is suggesting that Alt+E activates the close button to allow
things to start working again.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 21:58
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


Hello,
I'm using IE 8 and I went into IE and hit alt E and it landed me on the cut
button. Wouldn't alt E land in the edit window?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, Wednesday, 3 A.M.
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Adrian,

You know, as diligent as I am, I've not tried to remember the keystroke to
shut it down. Is it Alt+E? Then I'll give that a shot next time it
happens -- and it probably won't be too long before I get the opportunity.
Thanks!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 21:16
Subject: RE: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


Dave, before shutting down JAWS in this scenario, have you acted on your
guess that IE is waiting to be closed by pressing alt-e? This shortcut is
another way of activating that button. With XP and IE8, I find it sometimes
works and saves some time. If it doesn't, It's time to resort to closing
JAWS, which I have to do all too often.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:09 AM
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Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Bob,

It does, indeed it does. In fact when an application like IE crashes and is
prompting to close the program, JAWS quits without a whimper so we have no
idea what's happening.


When JAWS does not return after 40 to 60 seconds, I usually
Insert+Windows+F4 to do a surgical extraction of JAWS, followed by
Alt+Ctrl+J and sure enough, there's IE, wanting me to press the close
program button.

Frustrating, I know and almost makes me want to go back to JAWS 11.


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----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 16:30
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


As long as 2 minutes? I'll try being more patient. I just don't understand
why I can't even bring up Task Manager at that time but I can start Narrator
talking. Internet Explorer shouldn't bring Windows to a screetching, hem,
silent stop like that, especially on a multy cor system.

bob
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


This can have a number of causes. One cause is that the link is bringing
up an inordinate number of graphics. Another reason might be an incomplete
load of a page.

One thing which works for me is: After waiting a reasonable amount of
time, such as two minutes, press Insert+Escape to refresh the screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:25 PM
Subject: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


Jaws 13 sometimes stops talking when I click a link in IE8. I am able to
start Narrator but am not able to navigate my computer. But, when I
press the power button to shut down, Jaws starts talking. Weird.

Haven't reproduced this yet.

Bob

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Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
I'm using IE 8 and I went into IE and hit alt E and it landed me on the cut button. Wouldn't alt E land in the edit window?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, Wednesday, 3 A.M.
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Adrian,

You know, as diligent as I am, I've not tried to remember the keystroke to
shut it down. Is it Alt+E? Then I'll give that a shot next time it
happens -- and it probably won't be too long before I get the opportunity.
Thanks!

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 21:16
Subject: RE: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


Dave, before shutting down JAWS in this scenario, have you acted on your
guess that IE is waiting to be closed by pressing alt-e? This shortcut is
another way of activating that button. With XP and IE8, I find it sometimes
works and saves some time. If it doesn't, It's time to resort to closing
JAWS, which I have to do all too often.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Bob,

It does, indeed it does. In fact when an application like IE crashes and is
prompting to close the program, JAWS quits without a whimper so we have no
idea what's happening.


When JAWS does not return after 40 to 60 seconds, I usually
Insert+Windows+F4 to do a surgical extraction of JAWS, followed by
Alt+Ctrl+J and sure enough, there's IE, wanting me to press the close
program button.

Frustrating, I know and almost makes me want to go back to JAWS 11.


Dave Carlson
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From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@telusplanet.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 16:30
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


As long as 2 minutes? I'll try being more patient. I just don't understand
why I can't even bring up Task Manager at that time but I can start Narrator
talking. Internet Explorer shouldn't bring Windows to a screetching, hem,
silent stop like that, especially on a multy cor system.

bob
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From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


This can have a number of causes. One cause is that the link is bringing
up an inordinate number of graphics. Another reason might be an incomplete
load of a page.

One thing which works for me is: After waiting a reasonable amount of
time, such as two minutes, press Insert+Escape to refresh the screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:25 PM
Subject: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


Jaws 13 sometimes stops talking when I click a link in IE8. I am able to
start Narrator but am not able to navigate my computer. But, when I
press the power button to shut down, Jaws starts talking. Weird.

Haven't reproduced this yet.

Bob

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Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Dave...
 

Adrian,

You know, as diligent as I am, I've not tried to remember the keystroke to
shut it down. Is it Alt+E? Then I'll give that a shot next time it
happens -- and it probably won't be too long before I get the opportunity.
Thanks!

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 21:16
Subject: RE: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


Dave, before shutting down JAWS in this scenario, have you acted on your
guess that IE is waiting to be closed by pressing alt-e? This shortcut is
another way of activating that button. With XP and IE8, I find it sometimes
works and saves some time. If it doesn't, It's time to resort to closing
JAWS, which I have to do all too often.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Bob,

It does, indeed it does. In fact when an application like IE crashes and is
prompting to close the program, JAWS quits without a whimper so we have no
idea what's happening.


When JAWS does not return after 40 to 60 seconds, I usually
Insert+Windows+F4 to do a surgical extraction of JAWS, followed by
Alt+Ctrl+J and sure enough, there's IE, wanting me to press the close
program button.

Frustrating, I know and almost makes me want to go back to JAWS 11.


Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@telusplanet.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 16:30
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


As long as 2 minutes? I'll try being more patient. I just don't understand
why I can't even bring up Task Manager at that time but I can start Narrator
talking. Internet Explorer shouldn't bring Windows to a screetching, hem,
silent stop like that, especially on a multy cor system.

bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


This can have a number of causes. One cause is that the link is bringing
up an inordinate number of graphics. Another reason might be an incomplete
load of a page.

One thing which works for me is: After waiting a reasonable amount of
time, such as two minutes, press Insert+Escape to refresh the screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:25 PM
Subject: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


Jaws 13 sometimes stops talking when I click a link in IE8. I am able to
start Narrator but am not able to navigate my computer. But, when I
press the power button to shut down, Jaws starts talking. Weird.

Haven't reproduced this yet.

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Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Adrian Spratt
 

Dave, before shutting down JAWS in this scenario, have you acted on your
guess that IE is waiting to be closed by pressing alt-e? This shortcut is
another way of activating that button. With XP and IE8, I find it sometimes
works and saves some time. If it doesn't, It's time to resort to closing
JAWS, which I have to do all too often.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Bob,

It does, indeed it does. In fact when an application like IE crashes and is
prompting to close the program, JAWS quits without a whimper so we have no
idea what's happening.


When JAWS does not return after 40 to 60 seconds, I usually
Insert+Windows+F4 to do a surgical extraction of JAWS, followed by
Alt+Ctrl+J and sure enough, there's IE, wanting me to press the close
program button.

Frustrating, I know and almost makes me want to go back to JAWS 11.


Dave Carlson
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 16:30
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


As long as 2 minutes? I'll try being more patient. I just don't understand
why I can't even bring up Task Manager at that time but I can start Narrator
talking. Internet Explorer shouldn't bring Windows to a screetching, hem,
silent stop like that, especially on a multy cor system.

bob
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


This can have a number of causes. One cause is that the link is bringing
up an inordinate number of graphics. Another reason might be an incomplete
load of a page.

One thing which works for me is: After waiting a reasonable amount of
time, such as two minutes, press Insert+Escape to refresh the screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:25 PM
Subject: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


Jaws 13 sometimes stops talking when I click a link in IE8. I am able to
start Narrator but am not able to navigate my computer. But, when I
press the power button to shut down, Jaws starts talking. Weird.

Haven't reproduced this yet.

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Re: microsoft outlook calendar 2007 with jaws 13 and windows 7

Dave...
 

John,

I've had problems with Outlook crashing with some appointments that seem to
be corrupted. Every time I navigate to the day with that corruption Outlook
crashes (and of course JAWS 13 goes silent at that moment so I have no idea
what's going on). After restarting Outlook I go to my cell phone, delete
the calendar on the phone, and sync the phone to remove the offending event.
Then all is well again. then I recreate the item.

Doesn't happen often, but enough now that I know exactly what to do.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Fioravanti" <fioresq1@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 18:09
Subject: microsoft outlook calendar 2007 with jaws 13 and windows 7


Hi: After using the calendar in microsoft outlook 2007 with jaws 13 for a
month or so with no problems, today it seems that when I use the right and
left arrow keys the date does not change and I'm stuck in a given
appointment. The tab key does not move me thgouh diferent times but stays at
the same time continuously. Any thoughts?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


hi Dave,

follow my example please...

1. open a new Excel file
2. at sheet 1, b3, type in: address
3. move to sheet3, f5
4. type "=" to start a function
5. ctrl+page up twice, move down arrow, you can hear Jaws says =sheet1!a2
then move to sheet1!b3
6. Sighted users can see the word "address" you typed in sheet1 appear in
cell f5 of sheet3 but jaws doesn't say the text.
7: use jaws cursor or invisible cursor, jaws can read the text in
sheet1,b3
8, move invisible or jaws cursor to the word "address" then route pc to
invisible
9. press enter, insertion point is at f6. press up arrow, you can hear
jaws say: address

My question is if there is a keystroke for us to read the text of
sheet1,b3 while we are opening sheet3,f5. It'll be very helpful for blind
users for they don't have to remember well the position of various sheet
cell while they are using function of reference in Excel.

thank you



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Ngoc,

Okay, I think I may have thought of something.
First to make sure I understand:

You hear sheet1!B3 and you want to hear address. Is that correct?

Well, what you are hearing is the actual formula and not the result, as
you
explained.

There is a setting in Excel that turns off formula detection. I believe
that
it is a keystroke. Unfortunately I no longer have Excel 2003 and things
are
different now on 2007.

In fact, I have sometimes pressed this key combination by accident and it
is
very irritating. So I hope someone has the answer so I can try to remember
for myself next time it occurs.

But you should be able to find a help file to explain how to turn off the
formula display mode so that you do not hear the formula, but just the
result.

I do not think there is a JAWS setting that affects this. I think it is
all
in the Excel setup.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:35
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


Hi friend,

Whenever I want to read the formular bar, I press f2.

is there another way to read the formular bar?



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Scott,

You do not need a script to read it. I have no problems reading reference
text, and have been able to do so several JAWS versions back.

I think your problem is that you need to set JAWS to read formulas, or to
make sure that you are reading the formula bar in the Excel options.

This is a setup problem with your Excel and not a limitation of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:50
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


oh, I hope one day someone will make a script to read the reference text.

Thank you very much



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

There is no JAWS keystroke involved in reading that text. If you can read
the text on sheet1 with JAWS you should still be able to read the
reference
text on sheet2. I think you need to enable reading formulas in JAWS to
read
formulas.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:09
Subject: reference function of Excel


Dear friends,

I am using jaws 12 and Excel 2003. When I use function of reference, I
want
to read the texts appear on screen.

For example, in sheet1, cell b3 the text inside is “address”. I want the
text in cell b3 of sheet1 appears at cell f5 of sheet 2.
At cell f5, I type equal sign = then press ctrl+page up to sheet1. Then I
move arrow to b3. Jaws says sheet1!b3 but doesn’t say the text “address”
in
b3. At that time, the text of sheet1 appears on cell f5 of sheet2. I can
read the text by invisible cursor.
My question is that if there is a keystroke for saying the text

Thank you very much and Best luck
Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
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Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Dave...
 

Bob,

It does, indeed it does. In fact when an application like IE crashes and is
prompting to close the program, JAWS quits without a whimper so we have no
idea what's happening.


When JAWS does not return after 40 to 60 seconds, I usually
Insert+Windows+F4 to do a surgical extraction of JAWS, followed by
Alt+Ctrl+J and sure enough, there's IE, wanting me to press the close
program button.

Frustrating, I know and almost makes me want to go back to JAWS 11.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@telusplanet.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 16:30
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


As long as 2 minutes? I'll try being more patient. I just don't understand
why I can't even bring up Task Manager at that time but I can start Narrator
talking. Internet Explorer shouldn't bring Windows to a screetching, hem,
silent stop like that, especially on a multy cor system.

bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


This can have a number of causes. One cause is that the link is bringing
up an inordinate number of graphics. Another reason might be an incomplete
load of a page.

One thing which works for me is: After waiting a reasonable amount of
time, such as two minutes, press Insert+Escape to refresh the screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:25 PM
Subject: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


Jaws 13 sometimes stops talking when I click a link in IE8. I am able to
start Narrator but am not able to navigate my computer. But, when I
press the power button to shut down, Jaws starts talking. Weird.

Haven't reproduced this yet.

Bob

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Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

Adrian Spratt
 

Yes, adding the insert/JAWS key holds down the right mouse button. But Steve
is also correct that Brandon mentioned a laptop, which wasn't the way I read
the message at the time.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

One other small correction, the Right Mouse Click is just the Num-Pad Star.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:23 PM
Subject: RE: Save attachments in windows live mail


Brandon, just one small correction. The JAWS simulated right-mouse click
button is insert+star or multiplication button on the numpad, just above
the
9 key.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

Hello,
WLM is getting more annoying to use as time goes on.
This is what you have to do:
Shift tab to the attachments, hit rout jaws curser to PC, (If using a
laptop
that is +Left Bracket), then hit right mouse button which is Insert+9.
Arrow down till you see "Save all" and hit enter.
Now you're able to save all your attachments as their normal document type
anywhere.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

We did that, and we don't see a save attachments option.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail


I don't currently have a message with an attachment to see if this is
correct. But, when on the attachment button, try pressing the
applications
key and using the up or down arrows to find "Save attachment". I think
it's there.

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:33 PM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Save attachments in windows live mail

A friend of mine has windows live mail. We are trying to save an
attachment through JAWS. I sent her an attachment which is a wav file.
She
received the mail, and we see a button giving the name and size of the
file, but it only offers an open option. How do we save the attachment in
windows live mail?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


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file types tab not appearing in media player

Omar Binno <omarbinno@...>
 

Hello,

I'm using windows 7, and when I open windows media player and go to the
tools/options menu, the file types tab is not appearing at all. Anyone else
having this issue?

Thanks.


Omar Binno

Website: www.bigoproductions.net


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microsoft outlook calendar 2007 with jaws 13 and windows 7

John Fioravanti <fioresq1@...>
 

Hi: After using the calendar in microsoft outlook 2007 with jaws 13 for a month or so with no problems, today it seems that when I use the right and left arrow keys the date does not change and I'm stuck in a given appointment. The tab key does not move me thgouh diferent times but stays at the same time continuously. Any thoughts?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


hi Dave,

follow my example please...

1. open a new Excel file
2. at sheet 1, b3, type in: address
3. move to sheet3, f5
4. type "=" to start a function
5. ctrl+page up twice, move down arrow, you can hear Jaws says =sheet1!a2 then move to sheet1!b3
6. Sighted users can see the word "address" you typed in sheet1 appear in cell f5 of sheet3 but jaws doesn't say the text.
7: use jaws cursor or invisible cursor, jaws can read the text in sheet1,b3
8, move invisible or jaws cursor to the word "address" then route pc to invisible
9. press enter, insertion point is at f6. press up arrow, you can hear jaws say: address

My question is if there is a keystroke for us to read the text of sheet1,b3 while we are opening sheet3,f5. It'll be very helpful for blind users for they don't have to remember well the position of various sheet cell while they are using function of reference in Excel.

thank you



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Ngoc,

Okay, I think I may have thought of something.
First to make sure I understand:

You hear sheet1!B3 and you want to hear address. Is that correct?

Well, what you are hearing is the actual formula and not the result, as you
explained.

There is a setting in Excel that turns off formula detection. I believe that
it is a keystroke. Unfortunately I no longer have Excel 2003 and things are
different now on 2007.

In fact, I have sometimes pressed this key combination by accident and it is
very irritating. So I hope someone has the answer so I can try to remember
for myself next time it occurs.

But you should be able to find a help file to explain how to turn off the
formula display mode so that you do not hear the formula, but just the
result.

I do not think there is a JAWS setting that affects this. I think it is all
in the Excel setup.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:35
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


Hi friend,

Whenever I want to read the formular bar, I press f2.

is there another way to read the formular bar?



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Scott,

You do not need a script to read it. I have no problems reading reference
text, and have been able to do so several JAWS versions back.

I think your problem is that you need to set JAWS to read formulas, or to
make sure that you are reading the formula bar in the Excel options.

This is a setup problem with your Excel and not a limitation of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:50
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


oh, I hope one day someone will make a script to read the reference text.

Thank you very much



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

There is no JAWS keystroke involved in reading that text. If you can read
the text on sheet1 with JAWS you should still be able to read the reference
text on sheet2. I think you need to enable reading formulas in JAWS to read
formulas.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:09
Subject: reference function of Excel


Dear friends,

I am using jaws 12 and Excel 2003. When I use function of reference, I want
to read the texts appear on screen.

For example, in sheet1, cell b3 the text inside is “address”. I want the
text in cell b3 of sheet1 appears at cell f5 of sheet 2.
At cell f5, I type equal sign = then press ctrl+page up to sheet1. Then I
move arrow to b3. Jaws says sheet1!b3 but doesn’t say the text “address” in
b3. At that time, the text of sheet1 appears on cell f5 of sheet2. I can
read the text by invisible cursor.
My question is that if there is a keystroke for saying the text

Thank you very much and Best luck
Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
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Re: reference function of Excel

Dave...
 

Answer - I do not think it is possible.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
Date: 04-03-2012 17:17

hi Dave,

follow my example please...

1. open a new Excel file
2. at sheet 1, b3, type in: address
3. move to sheet3, f5
4. type "=" to start a function
5. ctrl+page up twice, move down arrow, you can hear Jaws says =sheet1!a2
then move to sheet1!b3
6. Sighted users can see the word "address" you typed in sheet1 appear in
cell f5 of sheet3 but jaws doesn't say the text.
7: use jaws cursor or invisible cursor, jaws can read the text in sheet1,b3
8, move invisible or jaws cursor to the word "address" then route pc to
invisible
9. press enter, insertion point is at f6. press up arrow, you can hear jaws
say: address

My question is if there is a keystroke for us to read the text of sheet1,b3
while we are opening sheet3,f5. It'll be very helpful for blind users for
they don't have to remember well the position of various sheet cell while
they are using function of reference in Excel.

thank you



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Ngoc,

Okay, I think I may have thought of something.
First to make sure I understand:

You hear sheet1!B3 and you want to hear address. Is that correct?

Well, what you are hearing is the actual formula and not the result, as you
explained.

There is a setting in Excel that turns off formula detection. I believe that
it is a keystroke. Unfortunately I no longer have Excel 2003 and things are
different now on 2007.

In fact, I have sometimes pressed this key combination by accident and it is
very irritating. So I hope someone has the answer so I can try to remember
for myself next time it occurs.

But you should be able to find a help file to explain how to turn off the
formula display mode so that you do not hear the formula, but just the
result.

I do not think there is a JAWS setting that affects this. I think it is all
in the Excel setup.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:35
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


Hi friend,

Whenever I want to read the formular bar, I press f2.

is there another way to read the formular bar?



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Scott,

You do not need a script to read it. I have no problems reading reference
text, and have been able to do so several JAWS versions back.

I think your problem is that you need to set JAWS to read formulas, or to
make sure that you are reading the formula bar in the Excel options.

This is a setup problem with your Excel and not a limitation of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
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From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:50
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


oh, I hope one day someone will make a script to read the reference text.

Thank you very much



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

There is no JAWS keystroke involved in reading that text. If you can read
the text on sheet1 with JAWS you should still be able to read the reference
text on sheet2. I think you need to enable reading formulas in JAWS to read
formulas.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:09
Subject: reference function of Excel


Dear friends,

I am using jaws 12 and Excel 2003. When I use function of reference, I want
to read the texts appear on screen.

For example, in sheet1, cell b3 the text inside is “address”. I want the
text in cell b3 of sheet1 appears at cell f5 of sheet 2.
At cell f5, I type equal sign = then press ctrl+page up to sheet1. Then I
move arrow to b3. Jaws says sheet1!b3 but doesn’t say the text “address” in
b3. At that time, the text of sheet1 appears on cell f5 of sheet2. I can
read the text by invisible cursor.
My question is that if there is a keystroke for saying the text

Thank you very much and Best luck
Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
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Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

Ngoc Ly <lyvanngoc@...>
 

hi there,

open the email then..

1. alt+f
2. move down arrow to save... submenu, right arrow to open the submenu
3. move down to attachment then select...

Best luck



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:24 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

Maybe ... I think ... Press control-c on the name of the attachment,
then paste it where you want it.

At 03:12 PM 4/3/2012, you wrote:
Brandon,
Have you tried Alt+F, v from the open message?


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 13:05
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail


Hello,
WLM is getting more annoying to use as time goes on.
This is what you have to do:
Shift tab to the attachments, hit rout jaws curser to PC, (If using a laptop
that is +Left Bracket), then hit right mouse button which is Insert+9.
Arrow down till you see "Save all" and hit enter.
Now you're able to save all your attachments as their normal document type
anywhere.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

We did that, and we don't see a save attachments option.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail


I don't currently have a message with an attachment to see if this is
correct. But, when on the attachment button, try pressing the applications
key and using the up or down arrows to find "Save attachment". I think
it's there.

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:33 PM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Save attachments in windows live mail

A friend of mine has windows live mail. We are trying to save an
attachment through JAWS. I sent her an attachment which is a wav file. She
received the mail, and we see a button giving the name and size of the
file, but it only offers an open option. How do we save the attachment in
windows live mail?

Thank you.
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Re: reference function of Excel

Ngoc Ly <lyvanngoc@...>
 

hi Dave,

follow my example please...

1. open a new Excel file
2. at sheet 1, b3, type in: address
3. move to sheet3, f5
4. type "=" to start a function
5. ctrl+page up twice, move down arrow, you can hear Jaws says =sheet1!a2 then move to sheet1!b3
6. Sighted users can see the word "address" you typed in sheet1 appear in cell f5 of sheet3 but jaws doesn't say the text.
7: use jaws cursor or invisible cursor, jaws can read the text in sheet1,b3
8, move invisible or jaws cursor to the word "address" then route pc to invisible
9. press enter, insertion point is at f6. press up arrow, you can hear jaws say: address

My question is if there is a keystroke for us to read the text of sheet1,b3 while we are opening sheet3,f5. It'll be very helpful for blind users for they don't have to remember well the position of various sheet cell while they are using function of reference in Excel.

thank you



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Ngoc,

Okay, I think I may have thought of something.
First to make sure I understand:

You hear sheet1!B3 and you want to hear address. Is that correct?

Well, what you are hearing is the actual formula and not the result, as you
explained.

There is a setting in Excel that turns off formula detection. I believe that
it is a keystroke. Unfortunately I no longer have Excel 2003 and things are
different now on 2007.

In fact, I have sometimes pressed this key combination by accident and it is
very irritating. So I hope someone has the answer so I can try to remember
for myself next time it occurs.

But you should be able to find a help file to explain how to turn off the
formula display mode so that you do not hear the formula, but just the
result.

I do not think there is a JAWS setting that affects this. I think it is all
in the Excel setup.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 07:35
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


Hi friend,

Whenever I want to read the formular bar, I press f2.

is there another way to read the formular bar?



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

Scott,

You do not need a script to read it. I have no problems reading reference
text, and have been able to do so several JAWS versions back.

I think your problem is that you need to set JAWS to read formulas, or to
make sure that you are reading the formula bar in the Excel options.

This is a setup problem with your Excel and not a limitation of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
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From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:50
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel


oh, I hope one day someone will make a script to read the reference text.

Thank you very much



Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar, on a Roll
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: reference function of Excel

There is no JAWS keystroke involved in reading that text. If you can read
the text on sheet1 with JAWS you should still be able to read the reference
text on sheet2. I think you need to enable reading formulas in JAWS to read
formulas.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ngoc Ly" <lyvanngoc@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 06:09
Subject: reference function of Excel


Dear friends,

I am using jaws 12 and Excel 2003. When I use function of reference, I want
to read the texts appear on screen.

For example, in sheet1, cell b3 the text inside is “address”. I want the
text in cell b3 of sheet1 appears at cell f5 of sheet 2.
At cell f5, I type equal sign = then press ctrl+page up to sheet1. Then I
move arrow to b3. Jaws says sheet1!b3 but doesn’t say the text “address” in
b3. At that time, the text of sheet1 appears on cell f5 of sheet2. I can
read the text by invisible cursor.
My question is that if there is a keystroke for saying the text

Thank you very much and Best luck
Ngoc Ly
lyvanngoc@gmail.com
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Re: best antivirus with Jaws

Eileen L <Eileen_may@...>
 

Can you give me the links to download the software products that you are
talking about?

Thanks,

Eileen

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On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: best antivirus with Jaws

Honestly, Microsoft Security Esentials is free, accessible, and works well.
The only time something got past it for me, I caught it with another free
program called Malwarebytes Anti-malware.
Chris


At 03:09 PM 3/28/2012, you wrote:
Hi,

Can anyone suggest a free antivirus program that works well with Jaws?
I have Jaws 12, but will soon install Jaws 13, windows xp.
Thanks.

Sincerely,

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Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

Control f6 doesn't appear to help in IE8. Sometimes helps in IE9 when the virtual cursor isn't working. But, f6 has no effect when Jaws stops talking altogether.

Bob

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


I think you'll find control-F6 gets you back more quickly and reliably if,
as you say, the problem can be corrected at all.

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On Behalf Of Philip Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

I have this same problem,also, and I have found by hitting F 6 a few times
helps, but not always.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David Hardingham
Sent: 03 April 2012 21:00
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Hi all,

I have the same problem but I still use jfw 12.70. It happens when I open a
link or a web page at times but also jaws will disappear if I am away from
the computer so when I come back jaws is gone.

I have an additional issue as my re boot button have disappeared into the
tower so I can't just hit boot. I use i.e. 7 but it happens with firefox as
well.

I never had this issue with previous versions of jaws or i.e. since started
using jaws about fifteen years ago.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Jaws 13 sometimes stops talking when I click a link in IE8. I am able to
start Narrator but am not able to navigate my computer. But, when I press
the power button to shut down, Jaws starts talking. Weird.

Haven't reproduced this yet.

Bob


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Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

As long as 2 minutes? I'll try being more patient. I just don't understand why I can't even bring up Task Manager at that time but I can start Narrator talking. Internet Explorer shouldn't bring Windows to a screetching, hem, silent stop like that, especially on a multy cor system.

bob

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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws stops talking after clicking some links


This can have a number of causes. One cause is that the link is bringing up an inordinate number of graphics. Another reason might be an incomplete load of a page.

One thing which works for me is: After waiting a reasonable amount of time, such as two minutes, press Insert+Escape to refresh the screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Jaws 13 sometimes stops talking when I click a link in IE8. I am able to start Narrator but am not able to navigate my computer. But, when I press the power button to shut down, Jaws starts talking. Weird.

Haven't reproduced this yet.

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Re: clear personalized web settings

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

I wanted to remove settings for a particular web site. I Went to the PersonalizedSettings File Folder and deleted the jsi file for that site. Before, you could simply press spacebar on the first control in... Oh heck, I don't remember what it's called. I don't feel like unloading 13 and loading an earlier version to find out now.

Ok. Yes. Shift plus jawskey v to personalize a web page.
Personalize settings for blablabla.com
Personalized Settings - All Cleared

It's getting hard to get used to radical changes in all sorts of software and operating systems when they are updated as well as screen access software.

Bob

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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:20 AM
Subject: RE: clear personalized web settings


Bob,

The former personalized settings function either doesn't apply to JAWS 13 or
works differently. As you know, to personalize settings in the JAWS
adjustment dialogue, you used to add shift to the command.

However, JAWS automatically provides settings that are personal, or more
accurately specific, to individual Web pages. For example, it used to be
that when you entered a search term in the JAWS find function, it was
remembered as the default wherever you were on the Internet until you typed
in a new search term. Now when you type a search term in IE (I haven't used
Firefox enough to be sure), it is remembered only for the page you're on and
other pages in the same domain. This is true even days and many reboots
later.

Which personalized settings do you want to undo? I'm curious how you're
experiencing them in JAWS 13.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: clear personalized web settings

How do I do this in Jaws 13? I don't see a clear settings control like
they used to have. I guess I have to delete the .jsi file in
PersonalizedSettings folder, but Jaws help doesn't say.

Bob


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Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

Steve Matzura
 

He said laptop, not desktop. His JAWS laptop keymap is
correct--JAWSKey+9, and in this case, the JAWS key is the CAPS LOCK
key.

On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:23:03 -0400, you wrote:

Brandon, just one small correction. The JAWS simulated right-mouse click
button is insert+star or multiplication button on the numpad, just above the
9 key.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

Hello,
WLM is getting more annoying to use as time goes on.
This is what you have to do:
Shift tab to the attachments, hit rout jaws curser to PC, (If using a laptop
that is +Left Bracket), then hit right mouse button which is Insert+9.
Arrow down till you see "Save all" and hit enter.
Now you're able to save all your attachments as their normal document type
anywhere.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

We did that, and we don't see a save attachments option.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Save attachments in windows live mail


I don't currently have a message with an attachment to see if this is
correct. But, when on the attachment button, try pressing the applications
key and using the up or down arrows to find "Save attachment". I think
it's there.

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:33 PM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Save attachments in windows live mail

A friend of mine has windows live mail. We are trying to save an
attachment through JAWS. I sent her an attachment which is a wav file. She
received the mail, and we see a button giving the name and size of the
file, but it only offers an open option. How do we save the attachment in
windows live mail?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


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Re: Save attachments in windows live mail

rixmix2009@...
 

Apologies if this is repetition.

I have WLM 2011.

To save attachments I open the email with the attachment.

I press Alt + F to open the File Menu.

Then I press the letter S for Save.

I right arrow to open the subfolder.
Generally I find 2 options, File or Attachment.

I can down arrow for Attachment. And back up arrow for File.
Single letters A for attachment or F for File.

My JAWS 13 settings currently has most shortcuts being spoken.

When the save dialog box opens, the first option is to save it where I last saved an attachment.

Or I can press Alt R to open the Browse and then TAB into the list of folders, opening and closing them with right and left arrow.

I find that this program handles all of this pretty well, once I got a bit of a routine with it.

Saving download files from the web is still bugging me with Windows 7. But I think I am finally getting the hang of it.

HTH
Rik