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Re: IE 8 verses Firefox 11

Soronel Haetir
 

Honestly, both work pretty well with most sites.

I use Firefox most of the time, but that's mostly because I prefer the
Firefox plugin ecosystem than because I have accessibility trouble
with one or the other.

On 4/9/12, Dondi from the valley of the sun <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,



I'm looking for opinions as to how does IE 8 compare with Firefox 11? Is
Firefox 11 JAWS 13 accessible? And has anyone moved from IE 8 to Firefox 11
and likes it better?



And I have always heard that IE 9 was something to avoid because of the
inaccessibility with JAWS 13. Is this still true?



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Re: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

Soronel Haetir
 

Nope, this system has 32gb ram and I still have problems with PDF
files over 600 pages or so. The PDF format is just not all that great
for on-line reading. That was true when I could see and it is even
more true now that I can not.

On 4/9/12, epierce@surewest.net <epierce@surewest.net> wrote:
Perhaps significantly increasing the size of the operating system "swap
file" would help?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

Hi
There's a spesific pdf doc that I'm trying to read and it's like 1200
pages. As you might know if you choose read entire document jaws
annalizes the entire document and loads it in to the computers ram.
Because of the size of this document it makes adobe reader crash every
time.
...


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IE 8 verses Firefox 11

Dondi
 

Hi Everyone,



I'm looking for opinions as to how does IE 8 compare with Firefox 11? Is
Firefox 11 JAWS 13 accessible? And has anyone moved from IE 8 to Firefox 11
and likes it better?



And I have always heard that IE 9 was something to avoid because of the
inaccessibility with JAWS 13. Is this still true?



Dondi

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Re: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

epierce@...
 

Perhaps significantly increasing the size of the operating system "swap file" would help?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

Hi
There's a spesific pdf doc that I'm trying to read and it's like 1200
pages. As you might know if you choose read entire document jaws
annalizes the entire document and loads it in to the computers ram.
Because of the size of this document it makes adobe reader crash every
time.
...


Re: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

Soronel Haetir
 

One possible fix, if the document allows it, is to save the entire
thing as text and to then use something other than adobe to read the
file. I've actually been quite happy with FS' HJPad demo application
for that sort of use.

You do not have to process the document for accessibility before
saving it, but the document might be locked against it.

On 4/9/12, Gary King <w4wkz@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Ted,
The long ago version that you are talking about worked in an entirely
different way than the current version. With the current version of the
reader, documents either load entirely into the virtual buffer or load a
page at a time. In addition to the problem of having to advance through a
large document by pages, you also have the problem of not being able to use
the JAWS search feature to find text beyond your current page in the
document. Don't think there's a fix.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader


If anybody figures that one out, let me know immediately. Believe it or
not, AR4 allowed you to do just that, but it's been a long time. That
was the first accessible version with the little plug-in.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

Hi
There's a spesific pdf doc that I'm trying to read and it's like 1200
pages. As you might know if you choose read entire document jaws
annalizes the entire document and loads it in to the computers ram.
Because of the size of this document it makes adobe reader crash every
time. The other option is to read currently visible pages only, my
question is, when reading currently visible pages only, can you still
get adobe reader to go to the next page automatically and get jaws to
annalize the pages as you go to the next one?

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Re: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Dondi,

The practice info for HJ Pad came from Freedom Scientific & I have never
played around with labeling graphics in HJ Pad myself.

I was able to label the collapse & expanded graphics in Windows Mail but,
since I don't run Outlook, I don't know what to tell you. I don't have
access to Outlook 2010 to have a look at the way it is setup.

Below is a link for an Email Clients List that is run by a fellow list
member.

email-clients-with-screen-readers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

I would suggest that you join this list & I think you will be able to get
any questions you have answered from this list. I am really sorry I
couldn't help you any further. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Dondi from the valley of the sun
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse


Hi Mike,

I still have a few questions about all this. I did the practice part of
your
procedure by starting with HJPad. And I was able to label the bold button
and a few others but how do I access these buttons in HJPad with the PC
cursor. Or can I only find these buttons with the JAWS cursor.

The second part was in Outlook 2010. I had a sighted friend help me today
and he said on conversations in one folder there was no graphic symbol
indicating when a conversation was collapsed and expanded. He said all he
saw to indicate a conversation was the number two. In another folder he
saw
a arrow pointing to the right to indicate a collapsed conversation and the
down pointing arrow for expanded. But when I turned on the JAWS cursor and
tried to find these symbols as a graphics number I couldn't find anything.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Dondi
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Hi Dondi,

Here you go;

Creating a Graphic Label Manually
To practice creating a Graphic Label, use HJPad. To launch HJPad go to
Start, Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Run HJPad.

Using the Graphics Labeler is easy, but before you start ensure that you
have speak graphics verbosity turned on. Follow these steps to be sure:

With HJPad open, press INSERT+V to bring up the Verbosity dialog box.
Press G to move to the Graphics Verbosity item in the list box.
Press the SPACEBAR until you hear JAWS say, "All graphics," and then press
ENTER.
Now that all graphics will be spoken, you are ready to find a graphic to
label.

Press the NUM PAD MINUS key to activate the JAWS cursor.
Tip: To navigate to the toolbar, first press PAGE UP to move to the top of
the window, and then press HOME to move to the top, left.

Use the arrow keys to move to the first toolbar button. You will hear,
"Graphic XXX." XXX can indicate any number.
Press INSERT+G to open the Graphics Labeler.
When the Graphics Labeler is opened, the focus is in the edit field, where
you should enter the label for the graphic. It will contain the graphic
number.
Press the delete key to remove the number then, type the name for your
graphic.
Press the TAB key to move to the Braille label field. Here you can enter a
label for a Braille display.
Next press the TAB key to move to a group of radio buttons that will let
you

determine where you want to save the label, in the application file,
default
file, or both files. Choose the application file.
Press ENTER to activate your graphic label.
Note: To edit a graphic label, use the same procedure that you would to
create a new graphic label, and just change the name of the label in the
Graphics
Labeler when it opens. To delete a graphic label, do the same, but delete
the name in the Graphics Labeler.


Using the Auto Graphics Labeler
The Auto Graphics Labeler assigns a text label to all graphics that are
associated with ToolTips. A ToolTip is a brief description of a graphic
that

appears
on the screen as you point to the graphic with your mouse.

To activate the Auto Graphics Labeler, open the desired application, and
press CTRL+INSERT+G.

JAWS will attempt to label all graphics. Do not move the mouse or press
any
keys on the keyboard until JAWS states that the Auto Graphics Labeler is
finished.
When JAWS finishes, it will announce the newly labeled graphics.

After using the Auto Graphics Labeler, you can use CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+G to
bring up the Select Graphic to Click Dialog box. With this dialog box, you
can
use your arrow keys to move through the available graphics, and then press
the TAB key to move to the OK button and press ENTER to activate the
graphic
you selected.

Hope this helped. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:16 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse


Dondi,

Graphics labeling is a JAWS function. You could start learning about it
by
going into key identifier mode with JAWS key+1 on the numbers row above
the
letters. Then press JAWS key+g and control+JAWS key+g to have their
functions described.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dondi from the valley of the sun
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Hi,

You wouldn't happen to know how to label these graphics in Outlook 2010
and
JAWS 13, would you?

Dondi
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Hello there;
I believe you would need to label the graphics?



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dondi from the valley of the sun
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:46 PM
To: JAWS list
Subject: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Hi Everyone,

Here's a question I heard on the BlindTech email list but I thought it
belonged here in the JAWS list. In Outlook 2010 how do you get JAWS to
announce expand and collapse when in the conversation view?

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit

JAWS 13



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Re: The other technical list

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Karen,

Yes, you should be able to get help for the products you mentioned or, get
information as to where to obtain help for them. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Hughes
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: The other technical list


i am wondering if we can get help with humanware products on this list,
the
victor stream, the tracker breeze. please let me know, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: The other technical list


> Hi Roger,
>
> Below are 2 links for 2 other lists' for technical issues not relating
> directly to Jaws.
>
> blind-computing-join@jaws-users.com
>
>
> blindtech-subscribe@lists.blindtech-list.info
>
> Hope this helps. Take care.
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Loran Bailey
> To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:34 AM
> Subject: The other technical list
>
>
> A number of times people who have asked questions here about technical
> issues not quite related to JAWS have been referred to another list
that
> is for more general questions about technical issues that relate to
> blind computer users. I have resisted subscribing to it because I get
> too much email as it is. However, after reflecting about it for a while
> I am thinking that it just might be more beneficial to me than this
one,
> especially since I am currently facing a certain technical issue that
is
> not specifically JAWS related. Might someone post that subscription
> information for that list again?
>
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Re: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Dondi
 

Hi Mike,

I still have a few questions about all this. I did the practice part of your
procedure by starting with HJPad. And I was able to label the bold button
and a few others but how do I access these buttons in HJPad with the PC
cursor. Or can I only find these buttons with the JAWS cursor.

The second part was in Outlook 2010. I had a sighted friend help me today
and he said on conversations in one folder there was no graphic symbol
indicating when a conversation was collapsed and expanded. He said all he
saw to indicate a conversation was the number two. In another folder he saw
a arrow pointing to the right to indicate a collapsed conversation and the
down pointing arrow for expanded. But when I turned on the JAWS cursor and
tried to find these symbols as a graphics number I couldn't find anything.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Dondi
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Hi Dondi,

Here you go;

Creating a Graphic Label Manually
To practice creating a Graphic Label, use HJPad. To launch HJPad go to
Start, Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Run HJPad.

Using the Graphics Labeler is easy, but before you start ensure that you
have speak graphics verbosity turned on. Follow these steps to be sure:

With HJPad open, press INSERT+V to bring up the Verbosity dialog box.
Press G to move to the Graphics Verbosity item in the list box.
Press the SPACEBAR until you hear JAWS say, "All graphics," and then press
ENTER.
Now that all graphics will be spoken, you are ready to find a graphic to
label.

Press the NUM PAD MINUS key to activate the JAWS cursor.
Tip: To navigate to the toolbar, first press PAGE UP to move to the top of
the window, and then press HOME to move to the top, left.

Use the arrow keys to move to the first toolbar button. You will hear,
"Graphic XXX." XXX can indicate any number.
Press INSERT+G to open the Graphics Labeler.
When the Graphics Labeler is opened, the focus is in the edit field, where
you should enter the label for the graphic. It will contain the graphic
number.
Press the delete key to remove the number then, type the name for your
graphic.
Press the TAB key to move to the Braille label field. Here you can enter a
label for a Braille display.
Next press the TAB key to move to a group of radio buttons that will let you

determine where you want to save the label, in the application file, default
file, or both files. Choose the application file.
Press ENTER to activate your graphic label.
Note: To edit a graphic label, use the same procedure that you would to
create a new graphic label, and just change the name of the label in the
Graphics
Labeler when it opens. To delete a graphic label, do the same, but delete
the name in the Graphics Labeler.


Using the Auto Graphics Labeler
The Auto Graphics Labeler assigns a text label to all graphics that are
associated with ToolTips. A ToolTip is a brief description of a graphic that

appears
on the screen as you point to the graphic with your mouse.

To activate the Auto Graphics Labeler, open the desired application, and
press CTRL+INSERT+G.

JAWS will attempt to label all graphics. Do not move the mouse or press any
keys on the keyboard until JAWS states that the Auto Graphics Labeler is
finished.
When JAWS finishes, it will announce the newly labeled graphics.

After using the Auto Graphics Labeler, you can use CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+G to
bring up the Select Graphic to Click Dialog box. With this dialog box, you
can
use your arrow keys to move through the available graphics, and then press
the TAB key to move to the OK button and press ENTER to activate the graphic
you selected.

Hope this helped. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:16 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse


Dondi,

Graphics labeling is a JAWS function. You could start learning about it by
going into key identifier mode with JAWS key+1 on the numbers row above
the
letters. Then press JAWS key+g and control+JAWS key+g to have their
functions described.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dondi from the valley of the sun
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Hi,

You wouldn't happen to know how to label these graphics in Outlook 2010
and
JAWS 13, would you?

Dondi
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Hello there;
I believe you would need to label the graphics?



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dondi from the valley of the sun
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:46 PM
To: JAWS list
Subject: Outlook 2010 and JAWS reading expand and collapse

Hi Everyone,

Here's a question I heard on the BlindTech email list but I thought it
belonged here in the JAWS list. In Outlook 2010 how do you get JAWS to
announce expand and collapse when in the conversation view?

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit

JAWS 13



Dondi

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Re: The other technical list

Adrian Spratt
 

Karen,

You'll find a Stream list here:
http://www.vrstreamusers.org/

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Karen Hughes
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 2:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The other technical list

i am wondering if we can get help with humanware products on this list, the
victor stream, the tracker breeze. please let me know, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: The other technical list


Hi Roger,

Below are 2 links for 2 other lists' for technical issues not relating
directly to Jaws.

blind-computing-join@jaws-users.com


blindtech-subscribe@lists.blindtech-list.info

Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Loran Bailey
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:34 AM
Subject: The other technical list


A number of times people who have asked questions here about technical
issues not quite related to JAWS have been referred to another list that
is for more general questions about technical issues that relate to
blind computer users. I have resisted subscribing to it because I get
too much email as it is. However, after reflecting about it for a while
I am thinking that it just might be more beneficial to me than this one,
especially since I am currently facing a certain technical issue that is
not specifically JAWS related. Might someone post that subscription
information for that list again?

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Re: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

Gary King
 

Ted,
The long ago version that you are talking about worked in an entirely different way than the current version. With the current version of the reader, documents either load entirely into the virtual buffer or load a page at a time. In addition to the problem of having to advance through a large document by pages, you also have the problem of not being able to use the JAWS search feature to find text beyond your current page in the document. Don't think there's a fix.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader


If anybody figures that one out, let me know immediately. Believe it or
not, AR4 allowed you to do just that, but it's been a long time. That
was the first accessible version with the little plug-in.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

Hi
There's a spesific pdf doc that I'm trying to read and it's like 1200
pages. As you might know if you choose read entire document jaws
annalizes the entire document and loads it in to the computers ram.
Because of the size of this document it makes adobe reader crash every
time. The other option is to read currently visible pages only, my
question is, when reading currently visible pages only, can you still
get adobe reader to go to the next page automatically and get jaws to
annalize the pages as you go to the next one?

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Re: The other technical list

Alex Stone <alexstone871@...>
 

I'm not sure if there is a generic Humanware list, but they do have lists,
as I'm on their Braillenote list.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 09 April 2012 19:37
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The other technical list

There is probably a HumanWare list. have you tried looking on the
HumanWare Website?

At 02:23 PM 4/9/2012, you wrote:
i am wondering if we can get help with humanware products on this
list, the victor stream, the tracker breeze. please let me know, karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Barbara"
<mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: The other technical list


Hi Roger,

Below are 2 links for 2 other lists' for technical issues not
relating
directly to Jaws.

blind-computing-join@jaws-users.com


blindtech-subscribe@lists.blindtech-list.info

Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Loran Bailey
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:34 AM
Subject: The other technical list


A number of times people who have asked questions here about
technical
issues not quite related to JAWS have been referred to another
list that
is for more general questions about technical issues that relate to
blind computer users. I have resisted subscribing to it because
I get
too much email as it is. However, after reflecting about it for
a while
I am thinking that it just might be more beneficial to me than
this one,
especially since I am currently facing a certain technical
issue that is
not specifically JAWS related. Might someone post that subscription
information for that list again?

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Re: The other technical list

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

There is probably a HumanWare list. have you tried looking on the HumanWare Website?

At 02:23 PM 4/9/2012, you wrote:
i am wondering if we can get help with humanware products on this list, the victor stream, the tracker breeze. please let me know, karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: The other technical list


Hi Roger,

Below are 2 links for 2 other lists' for technical issues not relating
directly to Jaws.

blind-computing-join@jaws-users.com


blindtech-subscribe@lists.blindtech-list.info

Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Loran Bailey
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:34 AM
Subject: The other technical list


A number of times people who have asked questions here about technical
issues not quite related to JAWS have been referred to another list that
is for more general questions about technical issues that relate to
blind computer users. I have resisted subscribing to it because I get
too much email as it is. However, after reflecting about it for a while
I am thinking that it just might be more beneficial to me than this one,
especially since I am currently facing a certain technical issue that is
not specifically JAWS related. Might someone post that subscription
information for that list again?

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Jaws, Magic, and Firefox 11

Joe McCormick <jmccormick@...>
 

Hi,

I'm new to the list so I'm sorry if this question has been asked but has
anyone used Jaws 11 or higher, Magic 11 and Firefox 11 together. When
trying to use Magic and Jaws together, magic's focus is about an inch
higher and to the left of where the jaws virtual pc cursor is actually
reading. This does not happend for all webpages but many including
Wikipedia and google searches. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe McCormick
harvard '14
jmccormick@college.harvard.edu
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Re: The other technical list

Karen Hughes <khughes8@...>
 

i am wondering if we can get help with humanware products on this list, the victor stream, the tracker breeze. please let me know, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: The other technical list


Hi Roger,

Below are 2 links for 2 other lists' for technical issues not relating
directly to Jaws.

blind-computing-join@jaws-users.com


blindtech-subscribe@lists.blindtech-list.info

Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Loran Bailey
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:34 AM
Subject: The other technical list


A number of times people who have asked questions here about technical
issues not quite related to JAWS have been referred to another list that
is for more general questions about technical issues that relate to
blind computer users. I have resisted subscribing to it because I get
too much email as it is. However, after reflecting about it for a while
I am thinking that it just might be more beneficial to me than this one,
especially since I am currently facing a certain technical issue that is
not specifically JAWS related. Might someone post that subscription
information for that list again?

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Re: Quickbooks, yes quickbooks, Accessible accounting/bookkeeping software

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

he's working on JFW scripts.

At 11:55 AM 4/9/2012, you wrote:
so are you saying that quickbooks is going to be axcessible cause you are
working with them on making it so or is it going to be jfw scripts and will
it be for versions starting with now and later?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:52 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Quickbooks, yes quickbooks, RE: Accessible accounting/bookkeeping
software

Well, if you can wait a little while, Quickbooks will be available to you.
Intuit and I are at work on this one. In fact, I just got done with the
initial assessment and testing of all the windows. Working pretty darn good
I'd say. I'll keep you posted.
John Martyn

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Accessible accounting/bookkeeping software

Hi all
I'm looking for accounting/bookkeeping software which is accessible with
jaws 13 on windows 7, any ideas? I'm not looking for something very advanced
it's only for a small business.

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Re: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not canhearprotectedWMA-files

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

It's been my experience that Media Player is virtually worthless for
DVD's anyway. Clicking, banging, cursing, praying--more than half the
time I can't even get the darn thing to start! I second the notion of
having a handy backup, although my choice might be Thunder, which is
available in a thumb-drive version.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 12:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not
canhearprotectedWMA-files

Dave,
I don't think adding another sound card would help, at least in some
cases of JAWS interference with Media Player. See my other message for
examples.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar and His Trusty Guide Beamer" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can
hearprotectedWMA-files


Suggest adding an audio card to use with music and only use the
Realtech for JAWS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western
United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen"
<english_correspondences@boholdt-petersen.dk>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 04:25
Subject: RE: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can hear
protectedWMA-files


Hi again

Yes, I using the same sound card for both Windows Media Player and
JAWS.
If
I playing other file types via Windows Media Player (e.g. a WAV-file),
Windows Media Player fine will play the sound, also when I open the
file
directly via Windows Explorer.

On one of my other computers I not have these problem, so therefore I
not
understand what happend on the computer where I have the problem.

The computer where I have the problem running Windows 7 64-bit, and
the
computer have a motherboard from ASUS (ASUS P8H67-M REV3 DDR3 Intel
H67)
with a integrated sound card from Realtek.

I using the latest drivers to the sound card.

If you have other solutions I can tried, please let me know.

Very thanks.

Regards,
Anders
---"Farfar, Sweet Thursday" Wrote---
Anders,

Are you using the same sound card for both JAWS and your music output?
Perhaps you need to install a separate sound card on that machine for
WMP
to

use.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western
United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen"
<english_correspondences@boholdt-petersen.dk>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:21
Subject: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can hear protected
WMA-files


Hi everyone

On one of my computers running Windows 7 64-bit, I experience that
JAWS
blocke sound from Windows Media Player, so I not can hear protected
WMA-files.

If I first unloading JAWS, open the protected WMA-file via Windows
Explorer
and after that start JAWS again, Windows Media Player fine will play
the
protected WMA-files.

If I first has opened the protected file, I fine can stop and start
the
playing - but if I unload Windows Media Player, I again first must
unload
JAWS before I can open a new protected WMA-file.

Has any person heard about this problem before, and have a solution I
can
tried?

I have tested with JAWS 12 and 13.

If you have other questions, please let me know.

Very thanks, and have a continued Easter.

Regards
Anders


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Re: Quickbooks, yes quickbooks, Accessible accounting/bookkeeping software

John Martyn
 

Yes, it would be a JAWS script solution and it will be for the next release
this year. It is very functional with 2011, but I'd like it for 2012. I
cannot release any dates as of yet, but it would be accessible to JAWS 10
and up on XP, Vista, and Windows 7.
The new version of Quickbooks will address some issues of accessibility on
the engineering end. It would be too difficult to make this an accessible
platform for all screen readers, so this is the best solution.
John Martyn

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of mike
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:55 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Quickbooks, yes quickbooks, RE: Accessible
accounting/bookkeeping software

so are you saying that quickbooks is going to be axcessible cause you are
working with them on making it so or is it going to be jfw scripts and will
it be for versions starting with now and later?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:52 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Quickbooks, yes quickbooks, RE: Accessible accounting/bookkeeping
software

Well, if you can wait a little while, Quickbooks will be available to you.
Intuit and I are at work on this one. In fact, I just got done with the
initial assessment and testing of all the windows. Working pretty darn good
I'd say. I'll keep you posted.
John Martyn

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Accessible accounting/bookkeeping software

Hi all
I'm looking for accounting/bookkeeping software which is accessible with
jaws 13 on windows 7, any ideas? I'm not looking for something very advanced
it's only for a small business.

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Re: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

If anybody figures that one out, let me know immediately. Believe it or
not, AR4 allowed you to do just that, but it's been a long time. That
was the first accessible version with the little plug-in.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Reading large pdf docs with adobe reader

Hi
There's a spesific pdf doc that I'm trying to read and it's like 1200
pages. As you might know if you choose read entire document jaws
annalizes the entire document and loads it in to the computers ram.
Because of the size of this document it makes adobe reader crash every
time. The other option is to read currently visible pages only, my
question is, when reading currently visible pages only, can you still
get adobe reader to go to the next page automatically and get jaws to
annalize the pages as you go to the next one?

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Re: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can hearprotectedWMA-files

Gary King
 

Dave,
I don't think adding another sound card would help, at least in some cases of JAWS interference with Media Player. See my other message for examples.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar and His Trusty Guide Beamer" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can hearprotectedWMA-files


Suggest adding an audio card to use with music and only use the Realtech for
JAWS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen"
<english_correspondences@boholdt-petersen.dk>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 04:25
Subject: RE: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can hear
protectedWMA-files


Hi again

Yes, I using the same sound card for both Windows Media Player and JAWS. If
I playing other file types via Windows Media Player (e.g. a WAV-file),
Windows Media Player fine will play the sound, also when I open the file
directly via Windows Explorer.

On one of my other computers I not have these problem, so therefore I not
understand what happend on the computer where I have the problem.

The computer where I have the problem running Windows 7 64-bit, and the
computer have a motherboard from ASUS (ASUS P8H67-M REV3 DDR3 Intel H67)
with a integrated sound card from Realtek.

I using the latest drivers to the sound card.

If you have other solutions I can tried, please let me know.

Very thanks.

Regards,
Anders
---"Farfar, Sweet Thursday" Wrote---
Anders,

Are you using the same sound card for both JAWS and your music output?
Perhaps you need to install a separate sound card on that machine for WMP to

use.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen"
<english_correspondences@boholdt-petersen.dk>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:21
Subject: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can hear protected
WMA-files


Hi everyone

On one of my computers running Windows 7 64-bit, I experience that JAWS
blocke sound from Windows Media Player, so I not can hear protected
WMA-files.

If I first unloading JAWS, open the protected WMA-file via Windows Explorer
and after that start JAWS again, Windows Media Player fine will play the
protected WMA-files.

If I first has opened the protected file, I fine can stop and start the
playing - but if I unload Windows Media Player, I again first must unload
JAWS before I can open a new protected WMA-file.

Has any person heard about this problem before, and have a solution I can
tried?

I have tested with JAWS 12 and 13.

If you have other questions, please let me know.

Very thanks, and have a continued Easter.

Regards
Anders


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Re: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can hear protectedWMA-files

Gary King
 

I have had problems with JAWS 13 and Media Player 12 on my Windows 7 64-bit system as well. I was unable to play a movie because Media Player complained that it could not apply copy protection to the output device while JAWS was running. I have also had problems playing protected WMA books from the Overdrive service using the Overdrive Console program. It uses Parts of Media Player to play the books. Neither of these problems happens with the NVDA or Window-Eyes screen readers. Since NVDA is free, there is no reason why everyone shouldn't have it on their computer as a backup screen reader. It comes in handy when JAWS fails to do the job for some reason.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen" <english_correspondences@boholdt-petersen.dk>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:25 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can hear protectedWMA-files


Hi again

Yes, I using the same sound card for both Windows Media Player and JAWS. If
I playing other file types via Windows Media Player (e.g. a WAV-file),
Windows Media Player fine will play the sound, also when I open the file
directly via Windows Explorer.

On one of my other computers I not have these problem, so therefore I not
understand what happend on the computer where I have the problem.

The computer where I have the problem running Windows 7 64-bit, and the
computer have a motherboard from ASUS (ASUS P8H67-M REV3 DDR3 Intel H67)
with a integrated sound card from Realtek.

I using the latest drivers to the sound card.

If you have other solutions I can tried, please let me know.

Very thanks.

Regards,
Anders
---"Farfar, Sweet Thursday" Wrote---
Anders,

Are you using the same sound card for both JAWS and your music output?
Perhaps you need to install a separate sound card on that machine for WMP to

use.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen"
<english_correspondences@boholdt-petersen.dk>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:21
Subject: JAWS blocke Windows Media Player so I not can hear protected
WMA-files


Hi everyone

On one of my computers running Windows 7 64-bit, I experience that JAWS
blocke sound from Windows Media Player, so I not can hear protected
WMA-files.

If I first unloading JAWS, open the protected WMA-file via Windows Explorer
and after that start JAWS again, Windows Media Player fine will play the
protected WMA-files.

If I first has opened the protected file, I fine can stop and start the
playing - but if I unload Windows Media Player, I again first must unload
JAWS before I can open a new protected WMA-file.

Has any person heard about this problem before, and have a solution I can
tried?

I have tested with JAWS 12 and 13.

If you have other questions, please let me know.

Very thanks, and have a continued Easter.

Regards
Anders


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