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NVDA & Jaws 12

TeddyBear
 

Good afternoon list:

I have installed NVDA on my computer running Windows XP and now I can't get Jaws to talk. I have re-booted my computer and tried to turn Jaws 11 and or Jaws 12 with the shortcut key without any luck. How do I turn NVDA off and get Jaws back?

Thanks in advance.

Tracy
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Re: keyboard commands

Dave...
 

Have you tried unloading JAWS and reloading? Mine gets stuck like that once
in a while.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Stigile" <rstigile@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 13:08
Subject: keyboard commands


Hello All,
I am wondering, if anyone knows, why all of a sudden, my delete
key on the keyboard will not say delete any more.
I am thinking this is a jaws command, as well, I can not get
insert and f 12 to say the day and time,.
So if any one knows how I can get these to work again I would
appreciate it.
Thank you,


Robert Stigile
E-mail: rstigile@sbcglobal.net
Skype: robertstigile1

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keyboard commands

Robert Stigile <rstigile@...>
 

Hello All,
I am wondering, if anyone knows, why all of a sudden, my delete key on the keyboard will not say delete any more.
I am thinking this is a jaws command, as well, I can not get insert and f 12 to say the day and time,.
So if any one knows how I can get these to work again I would appreciate it.
Thank you,


Robert Stigile
E-mail: rstigile@sbcglobal.net
Skype: robertstigile1


Re: JAWS with Japanese

Eri <withulmus@...>
 

Hi all,

You could buy JAWS Japanese version. It costs roughly about 1600 US dollars.

I mentioned NVDA to Ari since Ari stated he is not interested in
buying localized JAWS.

The only question I have about adding Japanese RealSpeak, Kyoko, is
this: how can she correctly read out all those kanji letters without
specific Japanese pronunciation dictionary? A kanji letter meaning
mountain could be pronounced "yama," "san" or "zan". It depends on
what comes before or after the letter. Japanese version of JAWS
certainly has a very good dictionary.

If any of you are interested in purchasing JAWS Japanese version, I
assure you it is very good.

Best wishes to all,

Eri

On 6/9/12, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
There is also a real speak solo direct Japanese voice available, but
in order to read interleaved text it will need to be formatted in HTML
or some other format where the document tells the screen reader what
language each bit of text is in. That method works for me on
Wikipedia for example, but I don't know Japanese well enough to give
any comment on its pronunciation quality.

I'm not sure if there is a Japanese eloquence or not, but if so you
would have to buy Jaws localized to Japan to get it and not just
enable it as an add on.

On 6/8/12, Eri <withulmus@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ari,

I am a Japanese-English translator living in Japan, and I am sure you
can use Japanese version of NVDA to read your Japanese document. When
you download NVDA Jpn version, it comes with a somewhat decent
Japanese SAPI. However, all the NVDA menus are going to be in
Japanese. You can set it to ENglish, but Japanese SAPI reads with very
funny accent when you let it read English. So, if you already know
Japanese well enough to work with NVDA menus in Japanese, You are good
to go with it.

As you might know, NVDA is completely free.

For any further questions, write to me off list at
withulmus@gmail.com

Good luck for your study.

Eri

On 6/8/12, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all
Two questions please. First, I am not really sure if this is a JAWS
question, but I have documents where some lines are English and others
Japanese. JAWS doesn't do anything at all for the Japanese lines, and
also there isn't Japanese eloquence. What screen reader or what must a
person do who wants these to be read? Also, since I don't want to buy
one yet, is there some sort of free Japanese synthesizer?
My other question, or rather it is sort of a hobby, but would anyone
be interested if I set up an email list for blind language learners
where people could share material, experiences, help etc?
Thanks
Ari

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Re: JAWS with Japanese

Soronel Haetir
 

There is also a real speak solo direct Japanese voice available, but
in order to read interleaved text it will need to be formatted in HTML
or some other format where the document tells the screen reader what
language each bit of text is in. That method works for me on
Wikipedia for example, but I don't know Japanese well enough to give
any comment on its pronunciation quality.

I'm not sure if there is a Japanese eloquence or not, but if so you
would have to buy Jaws localized to Japan to get it and not just
enable it as an add on.

On 6/8/12, Eri <withulmus@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ari,

I am a Japanese-English translator living in Japan, and I am sure you
can use Japanese version of NVDA to read your Japanese document. When
you download NVDA Jpn version, it comes with a somewhat decent
Japanese SAPI. However, all the NVDA menus are going to be in
Japanese. You can set it to ENglish, but Japanese SAPI reads with very
funny accent when you let it read English. So, if you already know
Japanese well enough to work with NVDA menus in Japanese, You are good
to go with it.

As you might know, NVDA is completely free.

For any further questions, write to me off list at
withulmus@gmail.com

Good luck for your study.

Eri

On 6/8/12, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all
Two questions please. First, I am not really sure if this is a JAWS
question, but I have documents where some lines are English and others
Japanese. JAWS doesn't do anything at all for the Japanese lines, and
also there isn't Japanese eloquence. What screen reader or what must a
person do who wants these to be read? Also, since I don't want to buy
one yet, is there some sort of free Japanese synthesizer?
My other question, or rather it is sort of a hobby, but would anyone
be interested if I set up an email list for blind language learners
where people could share material, experiences, help etc?
Thanks
Ari

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Re: JAWS with Japanese

Eri <withulmus@...>
 

Hi Ari,

I am a Japanese-English translator living in Japan, and I am sure you
can use Japanese version of NVDA to read your Japanese document. When
you download NVDA Jpn version, it comes with a somewhat decent
Japanese SAPI. However, all the NVDA menus are going to be in
Japanese. You can set it to ENglish, but Japanese SAPI reads with very
funny accent when you let it read English. So, if you already know
Japanese well enough to work with NVDA menus in Japanese, You are good
to go with it.

As you might know, NVDA is completely free.

For any further questions, write to me off list at
withulmus@gmail.com

Good luck for your study.

Eri

On 6/8/12, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all
Two questions please. First, I am not really sure if this is a JAWS
question, but I have documents where some lines are English and others
Japanese. JAWS doesn't do anything at all for the Japanese lines, and
also there isn't Japanese eloquence. What screen reader or what must a
person do who wants these to be read? Also, since I don't want to buy
one yet, is there some sort of free Japanese synthesizer?
My other question, or rather it is sort of a hobby, but would anyone
be interested if I set up an email list for blind language learners
where people could share material, experiences, help etc?
Thanks
Ari

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JAWS with Japanese

Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@...>
 

Hi all
Two questions please. First, I am not really sure if this is a JAWS
question, but I have documents where some lines are English and others
Japanese. JAWS doesn't do anything at all for the Japanese lines, and
also there isn't Japanese eloquence. What screen reader or what must a
person do who wants these to be read? Also, since I don't want to buy
one yet, is there some sort of free Japanese synthesizer?
My other question, or rather it is sort of a hobby, but would anyone
be interested if I set up an email list for blind language learners
where people could share material, experiences, help etc?
Thanks
Ari


Re: FS podcast

Londa Peterson <lpeterson@...>
 

I had this issue where if both JAWS and OpenBook were running, there would
be a dinging sound periodically and eventually JAWS would close. This has
been fixed. It is in the list of fixes for this patch.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I do have Openbook, and didn't notice a single thing that was changed in
either JAWS nor Openbook. What improvement or fix are you referring to,
exactly?


Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@tricountyblind.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 06:22
Subject: RE: FS podcast


If you are running OpenBook, you should definitely get this update. It
fixes some issues if you're running JAWS and OpenBook at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

David,

Agree, 13.0.924 had no significant improvements and didn't fix any of the
"valium Mode" issues I've been experiencing for months. I still get very
long pauses (30 seconds to a couple minutes) intermittently when closing
Adobe Acrobat or Outlook 2007 messages. I'm suspicious that the overhaul
that came out with JAWS 13 compromised a once-well-designed processing
algorithm.

Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 13:00
Subject: RE: FS podcast


Hello;

Not much buzz!

Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13

This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta release
to the current JAWS 13 release.


http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS13-previous-enhancements.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Anybody seen the buzz on the latest release? I'm using it at both
locations, but can't find why it was sent out. The site usually tells
us that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed
JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520,
JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:15
Subject: FS podcast


New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: FS podcast

Dave...
 

Londa,

Just found it. Didn't even notice, and for once I was not affected. Amazing.

. When performing a Say All (INSERT+DOWN ARROW) in OpenBook 9 while JAWS is
running, resolved an issue where a repeated dinging sound was heard and JAWS

Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@tricountyblind.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 06:22
Subject: RE: FS podcast


If you are running OpenBook, you should definitely get this update. It
fixes some issues if you're running JAWS and OpenBook at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

David,

Agree, 13.0.924 had no significant improvements and didn't fix any of the
"valium Mode" issues I've been experiencing for months. I still get very
long pauses (30 seconds to a couple minutes) intermittently when closing
Adobe Acrobat or Outlook 2007 messages. I'm suspicious that the overhaul
that came out with JAWS 13 compromised a once-well-designed processing
algorithm.

Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 13:00
Subject: RE: FS podcast


Hello;

Not much buzz!

Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13

This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta release
to the current JAWS 13 release.


http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS13-previous-enhancements.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Anybody seen the buzz on the latest release? I'm using it at both
locations, but can't find why it was sent out. The site usually tells
us that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed
JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520,
JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:15
Subject: FS podcast


New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: FS podcast

Dave...
 

I do have Openbook, and didn't notice a single thing that was changed in
either JAWS nor Openbook. What improvement or fix are you referring to,
exactly?


Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@tricountyblind.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 06:22
Subject: RE: FS podcast


If you are running OpenBook, you should definitely get this update. It
fixes some issues if you're running JAWS and OpenBook at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

David,

Agree, 13.0.924 had no significant improvements and didn't fix any of the
"valium Mode" issues I've been experiencing for months. I still get very
long pauses (30 seconds to a couple minutes) intermittently when closing
Adobe Acrobat or Outlook 2007 messages. I'm suspicious that the overhaul
that came out with JAWS 13 compromised a once-well-designed processing
algorithm.

Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 13:00
Subject: RE: FS podcast


Hello;

Not much buzz!

Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13

This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta release
to the current JAWS 13 release.


http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS13-previous-enhancements.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Anybody seen the buzz on the latest release? I'm using it at both
locations, but can't find why it was sent out. The site usually tells
us that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed
JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520,
JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:15
Subject: FS podcast


New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: query about removing earlier version of Jaws

Brian Hansen <BC.Hansen23@...>
 

You need to reauthorize JFW's video chain manager.

Blessings,

Brian

On Jun 5, 2012, at 4:55 PM, "julie" <memphis.magnolia@comcast.net> wrote:

I removed jaws 5.0 from my friend's computer and now it is asking something about video intercept when the computer boots up. Also when he enters outlook express and tries to send an e-mail message, it defaults to the edit field and neither of us can get to the "to" field. Any help appreciated.
Thank you,
Dan


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Re: FS podcast

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If you are running OpenBook, you should definitely get this update. It
fixes some issues if you're running JAWS and OpenBook at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

David,

Agree, 13.0.924 had no significant improvements and didn't fix any of the
"valium Mode" issues I've been experiencing for months. I still get very
long pauses (30 seconds to a couple minutes) intermittently when closing
Adobe Acrobat or Outlook 2007 messages. I'm suspicious that the overhaul
that came out with JAWS 13 compromised a once-well-designed processing
algorithm.

Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 13:00
Subject: RE: FS podcast


Hello;

Not much buzz!

Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13

This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta release
to the current JAWS 13 release.


http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS13-previous-enhancements.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Anybody seen the buzz on the latest release? I'm using it at both
locations, but can't find why it was sent out. The site usually tells
us that.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed
JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
Reasonable care was taken by the author, to generate consistent and
grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520,
JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:15
Subject: FS podcast


New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

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Re: FS podcast

Karen Hughes <khughes8@...>
 

this is exactly why I and many others have turned to n v d a out of sheer frustration. jaws performance has failed us big time just asking for more money as icing on the cake for themselves. we may be blind but we are not stupid. Karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristobal" <crismunoz54@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: FS podcast


You know, this post got me thinking about all the past "major" releases from
JFW that have eaten away at all my SMA's. Especially in the past few years.
While I don't expect every single update/new feature/improvement to benefit
me and my computing needs directly, I must say I can't say that many of
these new features that have been touted as the next great thing and thus
worth of full release have been all that and a bag of chips. Convenient OCR,
Tandem sessions, Research It to name a few haven't really given me the bang
for my Jaws Pro buck that each new major release ($100.00 to $130.00) costs.
I have yet to use Convenient OCr once. Nor have I ever used Jaws Tandem. I
do use Research it, but that's more of a function of it being there so I'll
end up using it, but can and do use Google or some other search engine when
Research It may be broken or just doesn't want to cooperate.

I'm not questioning the technical knowledge and resources required to
incorporate these particular features into Jaws. Nor the fact that in many
instances Jaws users do make heavy use of these same program aspects, but
considering that I've probably dropped close to $600.00 for SMA's in these
last few years, I must say, when sitting and thinking about what I've gotten
for it really doesn't leave me all that fulfilled. I've been much happier
when Jaws has been updated to finally work and work well with firefox for
example or has become more stable when working with programs like Adobe and
the various Microsoft programs. I find it discouraging that fixes for
programs that may have been broken in previous releases are included in
upgrades that require an SMA as opposed to offering a separate fix for older
Jaws uers who don't have the means to get the SMA or are reluctant to
upgrade to a new Jaws because it may not work as well with the same programs
(yes, I'm talking smack about you JFW 12).

I have no "insider knowledge" about what the new JFW 14 will include, but it
would be logical to believe that it will be Windows 8 centric as Microsoft's
OS will be released around the same time. That's all fine and dandy, but for
the fact that I just upgraded to Windows 7 not four months ago and would
sure like to see Jaws have better interaction with certain aspects of
Windows 7 not to mention a lot of the Office programs, I'm not all that
jazzed about the thought of having to shell out another $260.00 just for a
new SMA for fixes and improvements to already existing programs and their
well documented JFW issues.

Not really a Jaws rant since I am over all satisfied with the product, but
more a frustration with the SMA scheme and what are announced as "major"
releases when they really feel more like bells and whistles rather than
substantive improvements to existing application issues and spotty access to
other programs (Quickbooks as an example).

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

David,

I guess the question is, what can they possibly add to justify a new major
revision number release, and what will break or suffer as a result? I'd
prefer to have JAWS move up to a 13.1.xxx with improvements and no new
features, until we get back to a responsive, reliable product.

But then I'm an eternal optimist -- at least today.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 14:45
Subject: RE: FS podcast


Well, Mr. Dave Carlson
Ya best go after that jaws14 which will be coming out soon!
I here what your saying, I don't see any real improvements at all!


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

David,

Agree, 13.0.924 had no significant improvements and didn't fix any of the
"valium Mode" issues I've been experiencing for months. I still get very
long pauses (30 seconds to a couple minutes) intermittently when closing
Adobe Acrobat or Outlook 2007 messages. I'm suspicious that the overhaul
that came out with JAWS 13 compromised a once-well-designed processing
algorithm.

Dave Carlson
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13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 13:00
Subject: RE: FS podcast


Hello;

Not much buzz!

Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13

This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta release
to the current JAWS 13 release.


http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS13-previous-enhancements.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Anybody seen the buzz on the latest release? I'm using it at both
locations, but can't find why it was sent out. The site usually tells
us that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed
JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
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grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520,
JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:15
Subject: FS podcast


New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

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Re: FS podcast

Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
 

Actually, when Windows 7 came out there was a release of Jaws that same
week, even a day or so before hand, in October 2009. It must have been Jaws
11,.

Jaws 14 probably will not be announced or spoken of on a podcast until
August or September if they follow the usual course, then we will have two
to three betas before the final release.

I do occasionally use Convenient OCR but have not so far used Tandem.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 3:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Hello there;

Just remember;
When windows 7 was released, FS, wasn't ready, they didn't release a version
for sometime after.
I suspect windows 8 will follow the same path.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

just because of window eight

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Holy smokes;
You're worried about jaws14?
Gee's I'm still struggling with jaws13!
Some folks really have to much time on their hands.


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
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To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
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Subject: FS podcast


New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

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Re: FS podcast

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Maybe next time. It's always right there in the download area.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 8:12 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Have no clue either why you couldn't find it, the information was
available the same day of the release.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 7:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Thanks, don't know why I couldn't find that this time. I like to study
before downloading, but this time I went on faith, and it seems to be
working fine.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Hello;

Not much buzz!

Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13

This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta
release to the current JAWS 13 release.


http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS13-previous-enhancements
.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Anybody seen the buzz on the latest release? I'm using it at both
locations, but can't find why it was sent out. The site usually tells
us that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed
JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
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grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520,
JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:15
Subject: FS podcast


New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

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Re: FS podcast

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Have no clue either why you couldn't find it, the information was available
the same day of the release.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 7:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Thanks, don't know why I couldn't find that this time. I like to study
before downloading, but this time I went on faith, and it seems to be
working fine.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Hello;

Not much buzz!

Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13

This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta
release to the current JAWS 13 release.


http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS13-previous-enhancements
.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Anybody seen the buzz on the latest release? I'm using it at both
locations, but can't find why it was sent out. The site usually tells
us that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed
JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
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JAWS
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To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
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New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

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Re: FS podcast

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Thanks, don't know why I couldn't find that this time. I like to study
before downloading, but this time I went on faith, and it seems to be
working fine.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Hello;

Not much buzz!

Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13

This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta
release to the current JAWS 13 release.


http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS13-previous-enhancements
.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Anybody seen the buzz on the latest release? I'm using it at both
locations, but can't find why it was sent out. The site usually tells
us that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed
JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
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grammatically correct sentence structure, using a Dell Latitude E6520,
JAWS
13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:15
Subject: FS podcast


New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

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Re: FS podcast

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

Just remember;
When windows 7 was released, FS, wasn't ready, they didn't release a version
for sometime after.
I suspect windows 8 will follow the same path.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

just because of window eight

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: FS podcast

Holy smokes;
You're worried about jaws14?
Gee's I'm still struggling with jaws13!
Some folks really have to much time on their hands.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar and His Truck
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: FS podcast

I certainly hope there's nothing about JAWS 14 -- they haven't fixed JAWS
13 yet.


Dave Carlson
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To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
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New podcast is out. Nothing of jfw 14. New focus blue BRL display.

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Re: back quote

Soronel Haetir
 

On most US keyboards it is the upper left of the normal key area (next
to the 1/!) key.

On 6/6/12, Kimsan <kimsansong@aol.com> wrote:
Hello:

Does someone remember how to do a backquote?

Thanks.

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back quote

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hello:

Does someone remember how to do a backquote?

Thanks.

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