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Re: JFW11 No active window on startup

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

One of the cool things about 7 so far is the desktop is always there, a real stroke saver, if you launch a lot from it.

Ted

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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JFW11 No active window on startup

It's been like this since JAWS 12, I believe. The "no focus" is a new message introduced to help users understand that JAWS can find nothing to focus on. It does requires an Alt+Tab or Windows+M to get things back into focus. In the old days, we heard nothing, and this at least tells us why we used to hear nothing. It's sort of like that questionable message you sometimes see on a page "This page intentionally left blank". Which begs the
question: Well, since you wrote something on it, it's no longer blank, is it?

Okay, enough Möbius-Twisted philosophy for one day, eh?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marion Woods" <marion_woods38@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "JFW JAWS List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 09:05
Subject: JFW11 No active window on startup


Hi all,

Running JFW11 with Windows XP, after start up or exiting an application, I
end
up with no focus on the desktop, and have to use the windows key plus M
to
focus back to the desktop, this never happened with my previous version's of
JFW
6.2 and JFW11, any help would be apreciated

Marion



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Re: Jaws retaining settings

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Hi Dave,

I complained about this way back with Jaws 10 when I had that version on a
work site. But getting tired? Ah, then Jaws has no work ethic. lol. I'm
running Windows XP. Makes it pretty tough to do real work when I can't keep
specific settings up. I wonder what would happen if I try and put these Word
settings in the default settings rather in application specific? Just
wondering.

Jean

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From: "Farfar the Lumberjack" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws retaining settings


Jean,

That's a very good description of what I experience on a daily basis, with
many different applications. It does appear that JAWS "forgets" its settings
as I switch around in various windows during my workday. I usually notice it
first when JAWS stops reading highlighted text, and requires me to use the
Insert+7 keystroke to read the current item.

That's when I usually let out an audible sigh, kill JAWS and reload.

This was not an issue with JAWS 11 on my old XP machine. So I don't know if
its more due to Windows 7 or to JAWS 13, but I'd suspect the latter.

Write to FS and give them a couple scenarios. I doubt they'll be able to
replicate your exact results, but I'll bet that power users inside the FS
organization have already suffered the same issues.

I call it the "JAWS Getting Tired" syndrome.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


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From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "JFW list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 08:46
Subject: Jaws retaining settings


A situation that is driving me crazy. I'm using Jaws 13, Word 2003, and
Duxbury 11.1 or whatever its most up-to-date version is. I'm working on
creating braille documents of some Word docs. My preferred method is to use
the braille template in Word, coding the document, and then as needed, pop
it into DBT with the DBT menu. This then means a lot of back and forth
between looking at the braille as I'm working, and then switching back to
the Word doc to continue.

What I'm finding is that my Jaws settings for Word very quickly get messed
up when I am alt-tabbing between documents. For example, I have styles and
attributes set to be announced, and very quickly, they are not announced. It
then very quickly gets so bad that the standard arrow keys don't read text
either. The solution seems to be to restart Word every 10 minutes or so.

Do others experience this a lot when doing a lot of document switching? Any
solutions? I noticed this unstable behaviour many versions ago, and I'm
horrified that it is still happening. Jaws 8 didn't do this, and I'd go back
to that if it worked with IE 8, but it doesn't.

Jean
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Re: JFW11 No active window on startup

Dave...
 

It's been like this since JAWS 12, I believe. The "no focus" is a new
message introduced to help users understand that JAWS can find nothing to
focus on. It does requires an Alt+Tab or Windows+M to get things back into
focus. In the old days, we heard nothing, and this at least tells us why we
used to hear nothing. It's sort of like that questionable message you
sometimes see on a page "This page intentionally left blank". Which begs the
question: Well, since you wrote something on it, it's no longer blank, is
it?

Okay, enough Möbius-Twisted philosophy for one day, eh?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marion Woods" <marion_woods38@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "JFW JAWS List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 09:05
Subject: JFW11 No active window on startup


Hi all,

Running JFW11 with Windows XP, after start up or exiting an application, I
end
up with no focus on the desktop, and have to use the windows key plus M
to
focus back to the desktop, this never happened with my previous version's of
JFW
6.2 and JFW11, any help would be apreciated

Marion



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Re: Jaws retaining settings

Dave...
 

Jean,

That's a very good description of what I experience on a daily basis, with
many different applications. It does appear that JAWS "forgets" its settings
as I switch around in various windows during my workday. I usually notice it
first when JAWS stops reading highlighted text, and requires me to use the
Insert+7 keystroke to read the current item.

That's when I usually let out an audible sigh, kill JAWS and reload.

This was not an issue with JAWS 11 on my old XP machine. So I don't know if
its more due to Windows 7 or to JAWS 13, but I'd suspect the latter.

Write to FS and give them a couple scenarios. I doubt they'll be able to
replicate your exact results, but I'll bet that power users inside the FS
organization have already suffered the same issues.

I call it the "JAWS Getting Tired" syndrome.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "JFW list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 08:46
Subject: Jaws retaining settings


A situation that is driving me crazy. I'm using Jaws 13, Word 2003, and
Duxbury 11.1 or whatever its most up-to-date version is. I'm working on
creating braille documents of some Word docs. My preferred method is to use
the braille template in Word, coding the document, and then as needed, pop
it into DBT with the DBT menu. This then means a lot of back and forth
between looking at the braille as I'm working, and then switching back to
the Word doc to continue.

What I'm finding is that my Jaws settings for Word very quickly get messed
up when I am alt-tabbing between documents. For example, I have styles and
attributes set to be announced, and very quickly, they are not announced. It
then very quickly gets so bad that the standard arrow keys don't read text
either. The solution seems to be to restart Word every 10 minutes or so.

Do others experience this a lot when doing a lot of document switching? Any
solutions? I noticed this unstable behaviour many versions ago, and I'm
horrified that it is still happening. Jaws 8 didn't do this, and I'd go back
to that if it worked with IE 8, but it doesn't.

Jean
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Re: JFW11 No active window on startup

Adrian Spratt
 

I'm in such a habit of press control-m whenever I want to move focus to the
desktop that I don't experience this change as a problem. I recall posts
complaining about the increased instances of "no window is focus" messages
in JAWS 11, but no suggestions for fixing it.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marion Woods
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:06 PM
To: JFW JAWS List
Subject: JFW11 No active window on startup

Hi all,

Running JFW11 with Windows XP, after start up or exiting an application, I
end
up with no focus on the desktop, and have to use the windows key plus M
to
focus back to the desktop, this never happened with my previous version's of
JFW
6.2 and JFW11, any help would be apreciated

Marion



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Re: On Mouse Over!

Adrian Spratt
 

Press control-JAWS key-plus sign on the numpad.

JAWS will announce either of two things:

1. It will tell you the line number where the options appear. In this case,
press j followed by the number to go to that line.

2. JAWS will say it has detected no change in behavior. In effect, it is
saying false alarm and sorry for wasting your time.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: On Mouse Over!

Hi,

How do I manage On Mouse Over links in JFW 12?
I am trying to complete my employee timesheet, but there appear to be a
great deal of these types of links on the page.

Thanks.

Claudia


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JFW11 No active window on startup

Marion Woods <marion_woods38@...>
 

Hi all,

Running JFW11 with Windows XP, after start up or exiting an application, I end
up with no focus on the desktop, and have to use the windows key plus M to
focus back to the desktop, this never happened with my previous version's of JFW
6.2 and JFW11, any help would be apreciated

Marion


Jaws retaining settings

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

A situation that is driving me crazy. I'm using Jaws 13, Word 2003, and Duxbury 11.1 or whatever its most up-to-date version is. I'm working on creating braille documents of some Word docs. My preferred method is to use the braille template in Word, coding the document, and then as needed, pop it into DBT with the DBT menu. This then means a lot of back and forth between looking at the braille as I'm working, and then switching back to the Word doc to continue.

What I'm finding is that my Jaws settings for Word very quickly get messed up when I am alt-tabbing between documents. For example, I have styles and attributes set to be announced, and very quickly, they are not announced. It then very quickly gets so bad that the standard arrow keys don't read text either. The solution seems to be to restart Word every 10 minutes or so.

Do others experience this a lot when doing a lot of document switching? Any solutions? I noticed this unstable behaviour many versions ago, and I'm horrified that it is still happening. Jaws 8 didn't do this, and I'd go back to that if it worked with IE 8, but it doesn't.

Jean
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On Mouse Over!

Claudia
 

Hi,

How do I manage On Mouse Over links in JFW 12?
I am trying to complete my employee timesheet, but there appear to be a great deal of these types of links on the page.

Thanks.

Claudia


Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

Dani Pagador
 

Hi.
I think the separate window comes up to be able to see what's been
downloaded previously. Is there a way to hide this wondow so I can see the
dialog box and do want I need to?
Thanks,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

Once you click on the link or button to download wait a second or 2 and then
press alt + N. Then you'll get run, save or cancel, you can also tab around
or arrow around to open your downloads in a sepirate window and stop or
pause the download.

On 4/13/12, Dani L Pagador <axs.brl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Chris.
Ctrl+j to save as opposed to Alt+s?
Thanks,
Dani

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On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

alt+s almost always works for me.
Try CONTROL+J

At 09:49 AM 4/13/2012, you wrote:
Hi, Everyone.

How would I go about downloading a file using IE9 and JFW13? (I've got
a
Win7 64-bit computer).

In previous versions of IE, I could tab to the Save button and press
it with the spacebar and the download would go off without a hitch. Or
I could Alt-s and get the download to happen that way, too.

Now I can't Alt-s or if I find the Save button with the JFW cursor,
the spacebar doesn't seem to do anything.

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Once you click on the link or button to download wait a second or 2
and then press alt + N. Then you'll get run, save or cancel, you can
also tab around or arrow around to open your downloads in a sepirate
window and stop or pause the download.

On 4/13/12, Dani L Pagador <axs.brl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Chris.
Ctrl+j to save as opposed to Alt+s?
Thanks,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

alt+s almost always works for me.
Try CONTROL+J

At 09:49 AM 4/13/2012, you wrote:
Hi, Everyone.

How would I go about downloading a file using IE9 and JFW13? (I've got
a
Win7 64-bit computer).

In previous versions of IE, I could tab to the Save button and press it
with the spacebar and the download would go off without a hitch. Or I
could Alt-s and get the download to happen that way, too.

Now I can't Alt-s or if I find the Save button with the JFW cursor, the
spacebar doesn't seem to do anything.

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Chris.
Ctrl+j to save as opposed to Alt+s?
Thanks,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

alt+s almost always works for me.
Try CONTROL+J

At 09:49 AM 4/13/2012, you wrote:
Hi, Everyone.

How would I go about downloading a file using IE9 and JFW13? (I've got
a
Win7 64-bit computer).

In previous versions of IE, I could tab to the Save button and press it
with the spacebar and the download would go off without a hitch. Or I
could Alt-s and get the download to happen that way, too.

Now I can't Alt-s or if I find the Save button with the JFW cursor, the
spacebar doesn't seem to do anything.

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

sorry, alt+n like someone else said. I believe control+J puts you in the download manager.

At 10:10 AM 4/13/2012, you wrote:
alt+s almost always works for me.
Try CONTROL+J

At 09:49 AM 4/13/2012, you wrote:
Hi, Everyone.

How would I go about downloading a file using IE9 and JFW13? (I've got a
Win7 64-bit computer).

In previous versions of IE, I could tab to the Save button and press it with
the spacebar and the download would go off without a hitch. Or I could Alt-s
and get the download to happen that way, too.

Now I can't Alt-s or if I find the Save button with the JFW cursor, the
spacebar doesn't seem to do anything.

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

alt+s almost always works for me.
Try CONTROL+J

At 09:49 AM 4/13/2012, you wrote:
Hi, Everyone.

How would I go about downloading a file using IE9 and JFW13? (I've got a
Win7 64-bit computer).

In previous versions of IE, I could tab to the Save button and press it with
the spacebar and the download would go off without a hitch. Or I could Alt-s
and get the download to happen that way, too.

Now I can't Alt-s or if I find the Save button with the JFW cursor, the
spacebar doesn't seem to do anything.

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

Soronel Haetir
 

You probably need to go to the information bar and confirm that you
actually want to save the file. Hit alt-n and see what happens. This
sequences has replaced the dialog that used to pop up so it is not
actually more steps even though it might seem like it.

On 4/13/12, Dani L Pagador <axs.brl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Everyone.

How would I go about downloading a file using IE9 and JFW13? (I've got a
Win7 64-bit computer).

In previous versions of IE, I could tab to the Save button and press it with
the spacebar and the download would go off without a hitch. Or I could Alt-s
and get the download to happen that way, too.

Now I can't Alt-s or if I find the Save button with the JFW cursor, the
spacebar doesn't seem to do anything.

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Dani

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JFW13, IE9, and Downloading

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Everyone.

How would I go about downloading a file using IE9 and JFW13? (I've got a
Win7 64-bit computer).

In previous versions of IE, I could tab to the Save button and press it with
the spacebar and the download would go off without a hitch. Or I could Alt-s
and get the download to happen that way, too.

Now I can't Alt-s or if I find the Save button with the JFW cursor, the
spacebar doesn't seem to do anything.

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Dani

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I have a question about Jaws and gmail contacts.

Hyongsop Kim
 

Hello, I have a question about Gmail’s add contact.

I’m using gmail and want to add contact in the web, but I don’’t know how to do with Jaws.

I have Jaws 13 and using chrome.

Is it possible to add contact in basic html or if not, can I use standard view, because Gmail suggest that ‘screen reader users, please use basic html’.

In fact I tried to use standard view, but it is a little harder than I thought.

Please help me.

Thank you.


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Re: alternative to onenote

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

If your Acrobat Reader isn't working, make sure that if there is an option to open the document through an internet browser, that this option is turned off. I don't know if Acrobat Reader 10 has this option, or if it will solve the problem, but it is worth pursuing.

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: alternative to onenote


Thanks Gary, It turns out that here at work they upgraded my acrobat reader to v10 and for some reason it isn't working. That is why I couldn't open the document.
Regards
Tom Bisset
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: April 10, 2012 5:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: alternative to onenote

Tom,
Try this link:

http://www.karlencommunications.com/MicrosoftOfficeAccessibility2010.html

The book is a free download according to the information on that page, so it
shouldn't be protected.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@bmo.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: alternative to onenote


I downloaded the book but the version I keep finding is protected and I am
unable to open it. Is there an unprotected version out there?
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: March 29, 2012 12:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: alternative to onenote

Howard,
If you do a Google search for

"OneNote 2010 From The Keyboard"

you will find a free book in PDF format that explains how to use OneNote
with assistive technology. I just read through part of the book, enough
to
figure out that I didn't really need OneNote. It seems to be primarily
designed for students who need to take lecture notes. My student days are
long over.

The book explains the structure of the program and gives shortcuts for
navigation. OneNote should be accessible with both JAWS and Window Eyes.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Kramer" <hkramer.atsol@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:13 AM
Subject: alternative to onenote


From doing some googling it looks like onenote is not compatible with
JAWS
or with any screenreader. Does anyone have an alternative to onenote they
could recommend that is screenreader friendly?



Thanks,

Howard Kramer

--
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AHG Conference Coordinator
Access Specialist
303-492-8672
fax: 492-5601
Disability Services
Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion
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Re: alternative to onenote

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

Thanks Gary, It turns out that here at work they upgraded my acrobat reader to v10 and for some reason it isn't working. That is why I couldn't open the document.
Regards
Tom Bisset

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: April 10, 2012 5:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: alternative to onenote

Tom,
Try this link:

http://www.karlencommunications.com/MicrosoftOfficeAccessibility2010.html

The book is a free download according to the information on that page, so it
shouldn't be protected.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@bmo.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: alternative to onenote


I downloaded the book but the version I keep finding is protected and I am
unable to open it. Is there an unprotected version out there?
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: March 29, 2012 12:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: alternative to onenote

Howard,
If you do a Google search for

"OneNote 2010 From The Keyboard"

you will find a free book in PDF format that explains how to use OneNote
with assistive technology. I just read through part of the book, enough
to
figure out that I didn't really need OneNote. It seems to be primarily
designed for students who need to take lecture notes. My student days are
long over.

The book explains the structure of the program and gives shortcuts for
navigation. OneNote should be accessible with both JAWS and Window Eyes.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Kramer" <hkramer.atsol@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:13 AM
Subject: alternative to onenote


From doing some googling it looks like onenote is not compatible with
JAWS
or with any screenreader. Does anyone have an alternative to onenote they
could recommend that is screenreader friendly?



Thanks,

Howard Kramer

--
Howard Kramer
AHG Conference Coordinator
Access Specialist
303-492-8672
fax: 492-5601
Disability Services
Division of ODECE- achieving excellence through diversity and inclusion
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Re: Access Key in Firefox?

dave grossoehme
 

What happens if you use the Jaws pass key command which is the incert on the numpad with the number 3 on the top row of the keyboard?
Your Friend Dave

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:51 PM
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Subject: Access Key in Firefox?

Hello,
I’m on a school website called Etudes and I’m using Firefox to take some quizzes that crash in IE. I’m wondering if there is something special I need to do to use the short cut key commands?
The access key in Firefox is alt + shift. I’ve tried using this, but Jaws says “Not in a table.” Is there a way to bypass this function so I can hit alt shift n and alt shift f along with all the other shortcut commands?
I’m using Jaws 11 with Windows 7.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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