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Re: recomendation for backing up or copping a dvd

Curtis Delzer
 

Nero is quite accessible with jfw!

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Subject: Re: recomendation for backing up or copping a dvd


also nero isn't verry accessible with jaws or so I'm told



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Nero is great, but not free.

At 06:27 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote:
hi, does anyone know of a program that works well with jaws for
burning dvds?
Preferably free?

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Re: recommendation for backing up or copying a dvd

Cristóbal
 

Just had to do a little spell check on the subject line.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: recomendation for backing up or copping a dvd

Hello there;

Yes, absolutely, nero 10 is accessible,
However, it was asked if someone new of a free program to copy burn, rip,
etc.


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Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:10 PM
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Subject: Re: recomendation for backing up or copping a dvd

Funny, I've had no trouble whatsoever with Nero Burning Rom 10.

At 06:44 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote:
also nero isn't verry accessible with jaws or so I'm told



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(Mex,
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Nero is great, but not free.

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hi, does anyone know of a program that works well with jaws for
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Preferably free?

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Re: recomendation for backing up or copping a dvd

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

Yes, absolutely, nero 10 is accessible,
However, it was asked if someone new of a free program to copy burn, rip,
etc.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:10 PM
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Subject: Re: recomendation for backing up or copping a dvd

Funny, I've had no trouble whatsoever with Nero Burning Rom 10.

At 06:44 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote:
also nero isn't verry accessible with jaws or so I'm told



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(Mex,
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Nero is great, but not free.

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Preferably free?

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Re: recomendation for backing up or copping a dvd

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Funny, I've had no trouble whatsoever with Nero Burning Rom 10.

At 06:44 PM 9/3/2011, you wrote:
also nero isn't verry accessible with jaws or so I'm told



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@ve3rwj writes:

Nero is great, but not free.

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Preferably free?

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Re: recomendation for backing up or copping a dvd

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Well, if your talking about DVD'S, I would assume, your talking about
windows 7?

However to answer your question, yes, windows media player is more than
capable of doing what you want.


here's some steps I used for one of my clients;
this uses windows media player to burn CD'S.


BurningCD Using WindowsMediaPlayer;
This is assuming your using WLM12;

1, place blank CD in CD-Drive.
When the audio wizard comes up, press alt+f4 to close.

2, navigate to desktop, windows+m=desktop,
now, you'll need to go to your music folder,
it may be on an external, or, perhaps in your documents,


Now, M=music press enter.

3, select a album to burn;
Note, you need to enter once on the folder name,
Then enter again, to have the files show.
Now you should see a number of files, maybe 13, 10, 15.

4, ctrl+a=SelectAll

5, press applications key, down arrow or up arrow and enter on send to
sub
menu,
Now, up arrow and enter on your CDDrive.

6, you will now see this screen;

Burn a Disc
How do you want to use this disc?
Disc title: Nov 23 2010
Like a USB flash drive
Save, edit, and delete files on the disc anytime. The disc will work on
computers running Windows XP or later. (Live File System)
With a CD/DVD player
Burn files in groups and individual files can't be edited or removed
after
burning. The disc will also work on most computers. (Mastered)
Which one should I choose?
Next Cancel

So, you would tab and enter on,
Next button,

7, give a little time you should hear;
Files Ready to Be Written to the Disc
Press applications key,
Up or down arrow and enter on burn.
Note, your still in your CDDrive with the files showing.


8, now you will see this screen;
Burn to Disc
Burn to Disc
Prepare this disc
Disc title:
Nov 23 2010
Recording speed:

New files being burned to the disc will replace any files already on the
disc if they have the
same name.
Close the wizard after the files have been burned
Next Cancel
Here you would press spacebar or the enter key on next.

9, now will see the following screen;


Burn to Disc
Burn to Disc
Burn an audio CD
Music files can be burned to disc as data for playback on the computer,
or
in a format that will play
on a home or car stereo.
Which format do you want to use?
Make an audio CD (for standard audio CD players)
Make a data CD (for computers and some CD players)
Next Cancel

The make a audio cd is checked, so go to next, and press enter.

10, you will now hear;

Windows media player, jaws will repeat this, media player, media player.

11, go to desktop,
Tab twice,

One time is the start button,
The next press of the tab, you will probably hear,
Computer, or, something just right arrow until you hear,
Windows media player, press enter.

This is now the last step,

With windows media player opened,

Use the tab key, until you hear;
Start burn button,
Alt+s,

So press the spacebar,

And, you can also try;
Once you enter on windows media player,
You could just press alt+s=burn,

I hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Ken Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 8:35 PM
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Subject: Re: recomendation for backing up or copping a dvd

not sure but can't you do that with windows media player 11 or higher?
don't know much about DVDs.Huh?

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hi, does anyone know of a program that works well with jaws for burning
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Preferably free?

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Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

David I remember back in January you did quite a lot using voice
recognition, and if as a friend who is testing w 8 said it is even
better,that may help a lot, the friend also said something about w8 and a
screen reader included. It was during a phone call,from the forest of dean.
but I listened carefully in spite of poor reception Dorothy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: 06 September 2011 14:56
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello there;

Well, I'm not sure what you mean by, doing anything serious,
However, you do have the ability to send email,
Create and save documents,
And I assume other tasks.
I have done the above tasks, using the speech recognition in windows 7.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

The speach recognition on windows 7 is ok but I don't see a person
actually using it for anything cerious. I just spoke to a guy using
dragon and as I understand, comparing windows speach recognition to
dragon is like comparing windows narator to jaws.

On 9/6/11, David <davidwhitehead1957@...> wrote:
Hello there;

Folks who are using windows7,
Can use the speech recognition feature,
After training you can do, send email,
Create and save documents, etc,
I have tried this, and it does work with a little patience.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi thanks for the info. So as I understand, you do the initial
training and then after that does it train itself and improve as you
use it? I suppose it creates some files someware with the info it
learned while you used it, if lets say you install it on another
machine or format your machine, can you easally transfer the files
back or do you have to start training it from scratch. I agree with
you FS should focus more on feetures that people use for work, if I
want damm sport scors I just google it, don't think I ever used
research it after checking it out once.

On 9/6/11, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...> wrote:
Nickus:
I think it works pretty well with JAWS right out of the box (no scripts),
provided (i) you get the settings right (and that may take a little
tinkering) and (ii) you get sighted assistance for 15 to 30 minutes to
help
with the training. J-SAY breaks up the training into little phrases that
you
can repeat immediately after JAWS says the phrases (like repeating
wedding
vows at a typical U.S. wedding). Without J-SAY, training is a bear. If,
however, you can sit pretty far from the screen, get someone to read what
is
on the screen softly, and use a decent noise-canceling headset microphone
when you read into the computer, you'll be fine. To train it, you have
to
read a short essay.
As for the "Is it worth it," that's a hard one to answer. It is amazingly
accurate. I think 95% is stretching a little. I would say it averages an
error every 5 lines. If you don't screw-up and leave the microphone on
while you are talking on the phone or to someone else, it does get better
and better. The very act of correcting it really is teaching it. You
shouldn't trust either the voice "stop listening" command or the mute
button. Instead, use the keystroke to shut off the microphone.
As for the licensing, I'm not really sure. I only have it on my laptop,
which I carry back and forth to work. I part with my laptop only when
sleeping and showering, and sometimes ... <SMILE>
Probably the biggest drawback for blind users is something, the last time
I
checked, J-SAY had not fixed, and that is homonyms. It is pretty good
about
the most common homonyms like to, two, and too or their, there, and
they're.
For more obscure ones like discreet and discrete, Naturally Speaking is
challenged. Moreover, if it sounded above like I just typed the same word
or
words multiple times, then you know how challenging it is for a blind
person
to catch homonyms.
With Window-Eyes, I created a special homonyms dictionary, which I could
load when I wanted to proof something. It would say and spell the word.
I haven't figured out how to do that with JAWS (I can manually create
the
entries in a dictionary (speech settings file), but I cannot swap it in
and
out, and keeping it running all the time is too annoying.) I've
suggested
to Freedom Scientific that, in Text Analyzer, an option be added so that
one
could hear (not here) homonyms. Note, with my homonyms dictionary idea,
if
I needed to know about the homonyms, the last phrase would have said hear
h
e eigh r and here h e r e.
So far, I've heard nothing from Freedom Scientific.
For me, having a feature like that is more important and more jobs
related
than is, for example, getting the Red Sox scores on Research It, but I
know
Eric is a Red Sox fan. <SMILE>


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On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:27 AM
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Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi guys. I just recently heard about dragon and wanted to ask some
questions. Based on these posts I gather it works with jaws so there
goes my first question, just not sure does it work with or without
scripts? Well second thing, is it really worth the money, is it really
very accurate I think they clame 95% or something and last thing can I
install it on my desktop and laptop or would I have to buy 2 licences?

On 9/6/11, Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...> wrote:
Does it give you feedback of what you've written as your saying it or do
you
have to wait until the end of reading your document to then review it?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello:
I am writing this e-mail message using Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
One of the most important things to do in Naturally Speaking is to get
rid
of the Dragon bar. Actually, the setting is to confine the Dragon bar to
the
system tray. Other than to exit Naturally Speaking, I will rarely use
the
Dragon Bar.
The next most important setting is to set up hotkeys. For example, I set
Shift Plus F-11 to turn the microphone on and off. I use the pause key
temporarily to silence the microphone.
None of these keys will conflict. In fact, if you buy J-Say, certain
Dragon
hotkeys will be suggested, but you can use anything you like. Don't
worry
about conflicts.
If you have a good headset microphone which is noise canceling, and if
you
can get a little cited assistance to help you through the training, you
really do not need J-Say or J-Tools. I actually own J-Say, but I stopped
using it and uninstalled it. It tended to mess up JAWS, and the
installation
package was not ready for prime time.
It was particularly problematic to install in a corporate environment
with
heavy duty security settings. In fact, I don't think I ever got a good
installation of J-Say.
Now, I will dictate an entire document, such as this e-mail message, and
then go back and proofread it with speech off. I never used the JAWS
cursor
for anything. When I find a word that is wrong, I tend to highlight the
word
and then press F10. That brings up a dialog box which, initially,
contains
an edit field. If you know how to spell the correct word, just type it
in
and hit enter.
If you don't, hit tab and then arrow up and down through the choices.
Once
you have identified the term which is most appropriate, you can either
hit
enter or hit tab to times to the okay button. I hope this helps.
Go to top



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On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi.

Please. What settings below work best with Jaws with and without J-Tools
or
J-Say?
Jaws 12, DNS Premium 11.5, Win XP MCE.

It would be very good to have comments and information on how each item
and
choice below effects the basic functionality of Jaws without special
scripts. Then, how the same settings effect J-Tools and J-Say.

I don't have J-Tools or J-Say yet. Sometimes I can work the spelling
dialog
with the Jaws cursor but I have some difficulty knowing when the dialog
appears.Also have some trouble with the main standard Dragon toolbar.
There is a "microphone buttonbutton" that doesn't appear to activate, no
matter how I do it with spacebar or enter. I do have DNS set to start
with
the microphone ready to turn on by voice but sometimes I need to use the
toolbar or the system tray. Sometimes the system tray microphone
button
won't activate and doesn't turn on the microphone. It's also a lot of
messing around. I could set up DNS hot keys but don't want to conflict
with
Jaws or the scripts if and when I get them. Suggestions for hotkey
combinations also welcome.

Even switching focus to the Dragon bar is a bit confusing because Jaws
doesn't say a thing and I always have to press tab once to get to that
button.

I've written to the Jaws list first as I don't have the scripts so far.
Hope this is ok.


Options
View

DragonBarPreview: Mode:Docked to TopDocked to BottomFloatingClingTray
Icon
OnlyShow messagesShow extrasResults BoxAnchor Auto-hide delay:Show
preliminary results 10 secondsBeep after recognitionRestore defaultsOK
Cancel Apply Help OptionsCorrection "Select" commands bring up
Correction
menu"Select" commands search backwards"Correct" commands bring up
Spelling
Window"Spell" commands bring up Spelling WindowAutomatically add words
to
the active vocabularyAutomatic playback on correctionCorrection MenuShow
only the choicesAnchorEnable double-click to correctShow no more than 9
choicesRestore defaultsOK Cancel Apply Help


Nuts! Outlook Expressed removed all the paragraphs when I copied the
text
from Jarte. So,that may be a bit hard to read.


Bob



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Re: website building

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Sandy, if you want to worry about what the site says and how it says it, but not all the technical details, my advice would be to hire someone to take care of it for you. Not only that, but how the site looks may be as important as its content!

I'm currently working with Evratech Industries:
http://evratech.com/
on the design and implementation of my business's site. It's not done yet, but you can poke around a prototype at:
http://ctsmastering.com/home.php

They are very aware of accessibility issues, security concerns, graphics design and layout, etc. etc.

I've also had good luck with HostGator:
www.hostgator.com

Beware of free or very cheap hosting sites.

Chris


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David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

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Who knew there were so many keyboard shortcuts in Microsoft Word? I didn't.
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Here are the directions for downloading the 11 page document after you have
accessed the link provided at the end of this document.
For Mouse Users:
1. Mouse users:
A. Move down the page and choose pdf or word format.
B. If you choose the word format, you are sent to another page where the
download link is located. Click on the "Download (23 KB)" link. Then
follow the normal download prompts.
C. If the choice was pdf format, you are sent to another page with the
download link. Click on the "download pdf file" and follow the usual
download prompts.
2. For screenreader users:
I am including directions on how to download the word format since usually
pdf format is not the choice for screen reader users.
A. Press the letter h once.
B. Press the letter u twice to reach the unvisited link of "Word version"
and press enter.
C. Press control plus home once.
D. Press the letter b once.
E. Arrow down three times to "Download (23 KB)" and press enter.
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website building

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

Hello,
I am planning on building a website for my business and am looking for a webhostin service that has a web-building program that is accessible with JAWS. I am not very comp literate so I would like the sitebuilder to be user friendly. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11

ken lawrence
 

Hi I don't know what the issue is I have used C cleaner on several computers and several different earlier jaws versions and it seems to work fine. what you might try ishold the jaws key on a few of the items and see if it reads that has checked. also did you try jaws key plus tab to hear the tutorial message. work down to a few of them and if they are unchecked use ctrl and A to check them all. I've use it all the way back to jaws 5 or 6 without any problem. a great program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim L
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:40 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: c cleaner and Jaws 11

Yes that's what I mean



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011 2:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11


When you say work fine you mean that as you move down the list of items jaws

says whether it is checked or unchecked without you having to press space
bar to see how it changes? I've tried it on several PCs and have the same
issue.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hansen
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:31 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: c cleaner and Jaws 11

That's interesting, because I'm using the current version of CCleaner and
the latest version of JFW 12, and the check marks work just fine for me.

Blessings,

Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 5:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11

Hi Jim,

Unfortunately, that is the way it is for all Jaws versions with any version
of CCleaner, at least, that is what I have experienced. CCleaner is updated

regularly, but the situation doesn't improve. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:43 PM
Subject: c cleaner and Jaws 11


Heya folks,

What is the best version of C Cleaner that works well with Jaws 11?
I've noticed the latest version check boxes aren't spoken automatically
and
one has to double check every item to know either way which becomes so
tiresome.

cheers,

Jim
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Re: Annoying articulation of Mouse over

George Marshall
 

Mike thanks for this tip, using JAWS 12, followed directions and will see if it works.
George R. Marshall
marshall.geoma4@...

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Annoying articulation of Mouse over


Hi Again,

Sorry, I forgot to add the steps for Jaws versions prior to Jaws12 for
stopping the announcing of mouse over.
1. Open the configuration manager, control, shift, + D, for default manager,
Alt + S, to open user options.
2. Arrow down to, HTML options,
& press enter, or just press the
letter H, after opening user options.
3. Control + Tab, to the Misc. tab.
4. Tab to, indicate element attribute, & uncheck this box if it is
checked.
5. Tab to okay, press the spacebar or enter, press control + S, to save
your changes, & press Alt + F4 to close the configuration manager.

HTH
Take care.
Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike & Barbara
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Annoying articulation of Mouse over


Hi Ed,

For Jaws12, try the following to stop the mouse over from being announced;
1. Open the Settings Center, press control, shift, + D, for the default
for
all applications, & Alt + S, for the search box.
2. Type in, indicate element, & wait for a couple of seconds for the
results.
3. Arrow down to, indicate element attribute, & uncheck this box if it is
checked.
4. Tab to okay, press enter to save your changes & close.

Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Marquette, Ed
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: Annoying articulation of Mouse over


I think I remember a thread on this subject, but it was a long, long
time
ago.
When I go to Dictionary.Com (I wish Research-It used this reference tool
instead of the rather lame dictionary presently included), I encounter
repeated enunciation of "mouse over."
Can anyone tell me how to get rid of this?
I went to the Settings Center and typed in Mouse over. I got nothing.


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Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

Well, I'm not sure what you mean by, doing anything serious,
However, you do have the ability to send email,
Create and save documents,
And I assume other tasks.
I have done the above tasks, using the speech recognition in windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

The speach recognition on windows 7 is ok but I don't see a person
actually using it for anything cerious. I just spoke to a guy using
dragon and as I understand, comparing windows speach recognition to
dragon is like comparing windows narator to jaws.

On 9/6/11, David <davidwhitehead1957@...> wrote:
Hello there;

Folks who are using windows7,
Can use the speech recognition feature,
After training you can do, send email,
Create and save documents, etc,
I have tried this, and it does work with a little patience.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi thanks for the info. So as I understand, you do the initial
training and then after that does it train itself and improve as you
use it? I suppose it creates some files someware with the info it
learned while you used it, if lets say you install it on another
machine or format your machine, can you easally transfer the files
back or do you have to start training it from scratch. I agree with
you FS should focus more on feetures that people use for work, if I
want damm sport scors I just google it, don't think I ever used
research it after checking it out once.

On 9/6/11, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...> wrote:
Nickus:
I think it works pretty well with JAWS right out of the box (no scripts),
provided (i) you get the settings right (and that may take a little
tinkering) and (ii) you get sighted assistance for 15 to 30 minutes to
help
with the training. J-SAY breaks up the training into little phrases that
you
can repeat immediately after JAWS says the phrases (like repeating
wedding
vows at a typical U.S. wedding). Without J-SAY, training is a bear. If,
however, you can sit pretty far from the screen, get someone to read what
is
on the screen softly, and use a decent noise-canceling headset microphone
when you read into the computer, you'll be fine. To train it, you have
to
read a short essay.
As for the "Is it worth it," that's a hard one to answer. It is amazingly
accurate. I think 95% is stretching a little. I would say it averages an
error every 5 lines. If you don't screw-up and leave the microphone on
while you are talking on the phone or to someone else, it does get better
and better. The very act of correcting it really is teaching it. You
shouldn't trust either the voice "stop listening" command or the mute
button. Instead, use the keystroke to shut off the microphone.
As for the licensing, I'm not really sure. I only have it on my laptop,
which I carry back and forth to work. I part with my laptop only when
sleeping and showering, and sometimes ... <SMILE>
Probably the biggest drawback for blind users is something, the last time
I
checked, J-SAY had not fixed, and that is homonyms. It is pretty good
about
the most common homonyms like to, two, and too or their, there, and
they're.
For more obscure ones like discreet and discrete, Naturally Speaking is
challenged. Moreover, if it sounded above like I just typed the same word
or
words multiple times, then you know how challenging it is for a blind
person
to catch homonyms.
With Window-Eyes, I created a special homonyms dictionary, which I could
load when I wanted to proof something. It would say and spell the word.
I haven't figured out how to do that with JAWS (I can manually create
the
entries in a dictionary (speech settings file), but I cannot swap it in
and
out, and keeping it running all the time is too annoying.) I've
suggested
to Freedom Scientific that, in Text Analyzer, an option be added so that
one
could hear (not here) homonyms. Note, with my homonyms dictionary idea,
if
I needed to know about the homonyms, the last phrase would have said hear
h
e eigh r and here h e r e.
So far, I've heard nothing from Freedom Scientific.
For me, having a feature like that is more important and more jobs
related
than is, for example, getting the Red Sox scores on Research It, but I
know
Eric is a Red Sox fan. <SMILE>


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi guys. I just recently heard about dragon and wanted to ask some
questions. Based on these posts I gather it works with jaws so there
goes my first question, just not sure does it work with or without
scripts? Well second thing, is it really worth the money, is it really
very accurate I think they clame 95% or something and last thing can I
install it on my desktop and laptop or would I have to buy 2 licences?

On 9/6/11, Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...> wrote:
Does it give you feedback of what you've written as your saying it or do
you
have to wait until the end of reading your document to then review it?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello:
I am writing this e-mail message using Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
One of the most important things to do in Naturally Speaking is to get
rid
of the Dragon bar. Actually, the setting is to confine the Dragon bar to
the
system tray. Other than to exit Naturally Speaking, I will rarely use
the
Dragon Bar.
The next most important setting is to set up hotkeys. For example, I set
Shift Plus F-11 to turn the microphone on and off. I use the pause key
temporarily to silence the microphone.
None of these keys will conflict. In fact, if you buy J-Say, certain
Dragon
hotkeys will be suggested, but you can use anything you like. Don't
worry
about conflicts.
If you have a good headset microphone which is noise canceling, and if
you
can get a little cited assistance to help you through the training, you
really do not need J-Say or J-Tools. I actually own J-Say, but I stopped
using it and uninstalled it. It tended to mess up JAWS, and the
installation
package was not ready for prime time.
It was particularly problematic to install in a corporate environment
with
heavy duty security settings. In fact, I don't think I ever got a good
installation of J-Say.
Now, I will dictate an entire document, such as this e-mail message, and
then go back and proofread it with speech off. I never used the JAWS
cursor
for anything. When I find a word that is wrong, I tend to highlight the
word
and then press F10. That brings up a dialog box which, initially,
contains
an edit field. If you know how to spell the correct word, just type it
in
and hit enter.
If you don't, hit tab and then arrow up and down through the choices.
Once
you have identified the term which is most appropriate, you can either
hit
enter or hit tab to times to the okay button. I hope this helps.
Go to top



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi.

Please. What settings below work best with Jaws with and without J-Tools
or
J-Say?
Jaws 12, DNS Premium 11.5, Win XP MCE.

It would be very good to have comments and information on how each item
and
choice below effects the basic functionality of Jaws without special
scripts. Then, how the same settings effect J-Tools and J-Say.

I don't have J-Tools or J-Say yet. Sometimes I can work the spelling
dialog
with the Jaws cursor but I have some difficulty knowing when the dialog
appears.Also have some trouble with the main standard Dragon toolbar.
There is a "microphone buttonbutton" that doesn't appear to activate, no
matter how I do it with spacebar or enter. I do have DNS set to start
with
the microphone ready to turn on by voice but sometimes I need to use the
toolbar or the system tray. Sometimes the system tray microphone
button
won't activate and doesn't turn on the microphone. It's also a lot of
messing around. I could set up DNS hot keys but don't want to conflict
with
Jaws or the scripts if and when I get them. Suggestions for hotkey
combinations also welcome.

Even switching focus to the Dragon bar is a bit confusing because Jaws
doesn't say a thing and I always have to press tab once to get to that
button.

I've written to the Jaws list first as I don't have the scripts so far.
Hope this is ok.


Options
View

DragonBarPreview: Mode:Docked to TopDocked to BottomFloatingClingTray
Icon
OnlyShow messagesShow extrasResults BoxAnchor Auto-hide delay:Show
preliminary results 10 secondsBeep after recognitionRestore defaultsOK
Cancel Apply Help OptionsCorrection "Select" commands bring up
Correction
menu"Select" commands search backwards"Correct" commands bring up
Spelling
Window"Spell" commands bring up Spelling WindowAutomatically add words
to
the active vocabularyAutomatic playback on correctionCorrection MenuShow
only the choicesAnchorEnable double-click to correctShow no more than 9
choicesRestore defaultsOK Cancel Apply Help


Nuts! Outlook Expressed removed all the paragraphs when I copied the
text
from Jarte. So,that may be a bit hard to read.


Bob



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Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

The speach recognition on windows 7 is ok but I don't see a person
actually using it for anything cerious. I just spoke to a guy using
dragon and as I understand, comparing windows speach recognition to
dragon is like comparing windows narator to jaws.

On 9/6/11, David <davidwhitehead1957@...> wrote:
Hello there;

Folks who are using windows7,
Can use the speech recognition feature,
After training you can do, send email,
Create and save documents, etc,
I have tried this, and it does work with a little patience.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi thanks for the info. So as I understand, you do the initial
training and then after that does it train itself and improve as you
use it? I suppose it creates some files someware with the info it
learned while you used it, if lets say you install it on another
machine or format your machine, can you easally transfer the files
back or do you have to start training it from scratch. I agree with
you FS should focus more on feetures that people use for work, if I
want damm sport scors I just google it, don't think I ever used
research it after checking it out once.

On 9/6/11, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...> wrote:
Nickus:
I think it works pretty well with JAWS right out of the box (no scripts),
provided (i) you get the settings right (and that may take a little
tinkering) and (ii) you get sighted assistance for 15 to 30 minutes to
help
with the training. J-SAY breaks up the training into little phrases that
you
can repeat immediately after JAWS says the phrases (like repeating wedding
vows at a typical U.S. wedding). Without J-SAY, training is a bear. If,
however, you can sit pretty far from the screen, get someone to read what
is
on the screen softly, and use a decent noise-canceling headset microphone
when you read into the computer, you'll be fine. To train it, you have to
read a short essay.
As for the "Is it worth it," that's a hard one to answer. It is amazingly
accurate. I think 95% is stretching a little. I would say it averages an
error every 5 lines. If you don't screw-up and leave the microphone on
while you are talking on the phone or to someone else, it does get better
and better. The very act of correcting it really is teaching it. You
shouldn't trust either the voice "stop listening" command or the mute
button. Instead, use the keystroke to shut off the microphone.
As for the licensing, I'm not really sure. I only have it on my laptop,
which I carry back and forth to work. I part with my laptop only when
sleeping and showering, and sometimes ... <SMILE>
Probably the biggest drawback for blind users is something, the last time
I
checked, J-SAY had not fixed, and that is homonyms. It is pretty good
about
the most common homonyms like to, two, and too or their, there, and
they're.
For more obscure ones like discreet and discrete, Naturally Speaking is
challenged. Moreover, if it sounded above like I just typed the same word
or
words multiple times, then you know how challenging it is for a blind
person
to catch homonyms.
With Window-Eyes, I created a special homonyms dictionary, which I could
load when I wanted to proof something. It would say and spell the word.
I haven't figured out how to do that with JAWS (I can manually create the
entries in a dictionary (speech settings file), but I cannot swap it in
and
out, and keeping it running all the time is too annoying.) I've suggested
to Freedom Scientific that, in Text Analyzer, an option be added so that
one
could hear (not here) homonyms. Note, with my homonyms dictionary idea,
if
I needed to know about the homonyms, the last phrase would have said hear
h
e eigh r and here h e r e.
So far, I've heard nothing from Freedom Scientific.
For me, having a feature like that is more important and more jobs related
than is, for example, getting the Red Sox scores on Research It, but I
know
Eric is a Red Sox fan. <SMILE>


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi guys. I just recently heard about dragon and wanted to ask some
questions. Based on these posts I gather it works with jaws so there
goes my first question, just not sure does it work with or without
scripts? Well second thing, is it really worth the money, is it really
very accurate I think they clame 95% or something and last thing can I
install it on my desktop and laptop or would I have to buy 2 licences?

On 9/6/11, Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...> wrote:
Does it give you feedback of what you've written as your saying it or do
you
have to wait until the end of reading your document to then review it?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello:
I am writing this e-mail message using Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
One of the most important things to do in Naturally Speaking is to get
rid
of the Dragon bar. Actually, the setting is to confine the Dragon bar to
the
system tray. Other than to exit Naturally Speaking, I will rarely use the
Dragon Bar.
The next most important setting is to set up hotkeys. For example, I set
Shift Plus F-11 to turn the microphone on and off. I use the pause key
temporarily to silence the microphone.
None of these keys will conflict. In fact, if you buy J-Say, certain
Dragon
hotkeys will be suggested, but you can use anything you like. Don't worry
about conflicts.
If you have a good headset microphone which is noise canceling, and if
you
can get a little cited assistance to help you through the training, you
really do not need J-Say or J-Tools. I actually own J-Say, but I stopped
using it and uninstalled it. It tended to mess up JAWS, and the
installation
package was not ready for prime time.
It was particularly problematic to install in a corporate environment
with
heavy duty security settings. In fact, I don't think I ever got a good
installation of J-Say.
Now, I will dictate an entire document, such as this e-mail message, and
then go back and proofread it with speech off. I never used the JAWS
cursor
for anything. When I find a word that is wrong, I tend to highlight the
word
and then press F10. That brings up a dialog box which, initially,
contains
an edit field. If you know how to spell the correct word, just type it in
and hit enter.
If you don't, hit tab and then arrow up and down through the choices.
Once
you have identified the term which is most appropriate, you can either
hit
enter or hit tab to times to the okay button. I hope this helps.
Go to top



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi.

Please. What settings below work best with Jaws with and without J-Tools
or
J-Say?
Jaws 12, DNS Premium 11.5, Win XP MCE.

It would be very good to have comments and information on how each item
and
choice below effects the basic functionality of Jaws without special
scripts. Then, how the same settings effect J-Tools and J-Say.

I don't have J-Tools or J-Say yet. Sometimes I can work the spelling
dialog
with the Jaws cursor but I have some difficulty knowing when the dialog
appears.Also have some trouble with the main standard Dragon toolbar.
There is a "microphone buttonbutton" that doesn't appear to activate, no
matter how I do it with spacebar or enter. I do have DNS set to start
with
the microphone ready to turn on by voice but sometimes I need to use the
toolbar or the system tray. Sometimes the system tray microphone button
won't activate and doesn't turn on the microphone. It's also a lot of
messing around. I could set up DNS hot keys but don't want to conflict
with
Jaws or the scripts if and when I get them. Suggestions for hotkey
combinations also welcome.

Even switching focus to the Dragon bar is a bit confusing because Jaws
doesn't say a thing and I always have to press tab once to get to that
button.

I've written to the Jaws list first as I don't have the scripts so far.
Hope this is ok.


Options
View

DragonBarPreview: Mode:Docked to TopDocked to BottomFloatingClingTray
Icon
OnlyShow messagesShow extrasResults BoxAnchor Auto-hide delay:Show
preliminary results 10 secondsBeep after recognitionRestore defaultsOK
Cancel Apply Help OptionsCorrection "Select" commands bring up Correction
menu"Select" commands search backwards"Correct" commands bring up
Spelling
Window"Spell" commands bring up Spelling WindowAutomatically add words to
the active vocabularyAutomatic playback on correctionCorrection MenuShow
only the choicesAnchorEnable double-click to correctShow no more than 9
choicesRestore defaultsOK Cancel Apply Help


Nuts! Outlook Expressed removed all the paragraphs when I copied the
text
from Jarte. So,that may be a bit hard to read.


Bob



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IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED,
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Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Since I transfer my laptop, I have not transferred user files; however, I'm sure I've read where they can be transferred. As one exits Naturally Speaking one gets a message that user files are being saved, and when one upgrades to a new computer, those user files can be transferred. So, I'm sure you could (probably automatically with DropBox) keep the user files synchronized.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 6:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi thanks for the info. So as I understand, you do the initial
training and then after that does it train itself and improve as you
use it? I suppose it creates some files someware with the info it
learned while you used it, if lets say you install it on another
machine or format your machine, can you easally transfer the files
back or do you have to start training it from scratch. I agree with
you FS should focus more on feetures that people use for work, if I
want damm sport scors I just google it, don't think I ever used
research it after checking it out once.

On 9/6/11, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...> wrote:
Nickus:
I think it works pretty well with JAWS right out of the box (no scripts),
provided (i) you get the settings right (and that may take a little
tinkering) and (ii) you get sighted assistance for 15 to 30 minutes to help
with the training. J-SAY breaks up the training into little phrases that you
can repeat immediately after JAWS says the phrases (like repeating wedding
vows at a typical U.S. wedding). Without J-SAY, training is a bear. If,
however, you can sit pretty far from the screen, get someone to read what is
on the screen softly, and use a decent noise-canceling headset microphone
when you read into the computer, you'll be fine. To train it, you have to
read a short essay.
As for the "Is it worth it," that's a hard one to answer. It is amazingly
accurate. I think 95% is stretching a little. I would say it averages an
error every 5 lines. If you don't screw-up and leave the microphone on
while you are talking on the phone or to someone else, it does get better
and better. The very act of correcting it really is teaching it. You
shouldn't trust either the voice "stop listening" command or the mute
button. Instead, use the keystroke to shut off the microphone.
As for the licensing, I'm not really sure. I only have it on my laptop,
which I carry back and forth to work. I part with my laptop only when
sleeping and showering, and sometimes ... <SMILE>
Probably the biggest drawback for blind users is something, the last time I
checked, J-SAY had not fixed, and that is homonyms. It is pretty good about
the most common homonyms like to, two, and too or their, there, and they're.
For more obscure ones like discreet and discrete, Naturally Speaking is
challenged. Moreover, if it sounded above like I just typed the same word or
words multiple times, then you know how challenging it is for a blind person
to catch homonyms.
With Window-Eyes, I created a special homonyms dictionary, which I could
load when I wanted to proof something. It would say and spell the word.
I haven't figured out how to do that with JAWS (I can manually create the
entries in a dictionary (speech settings file), but I cannot swap it in and
out, and keeping it running all the time is too annoying.) I've suggested
to Freedom Scientific that, in Text Analyzer, an option be added so that one
could hear (not here) homonyms. Note, with my homonyms dictionary idea, if
I needed to know about the homonyms, the last phrase would have said hear h
e eigh r and here h e r e.
So far, I've heard nothing from Freedom Scientific.
For me, having a feature like that is more important and more jobs related
than is, for example, getting the Red Sox scores on Research It, but I know
Eric is a Red Sox fan. <SMILE>


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi guys. I just recently heard about dragon and wanted to ask some
questions. Based on these posts I gather it works with jaws so there
goes my first question, just not sure does it work with or without
scripts? Well second thing, is it really worth the money, is it really
very accurate I think they clame 95% or something and last thing can I
install it on my desktop and laptop or would I have to buy 2 licences?

On 9/6/11, Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...> wrote:
Does it give you feedback of what you've written as your saying it or do
you
have to wait until the end of reading your document to then review it?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello:
I am writing this e-mail message using Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
One of the most important things to do in Naturally Speaking is to get rid
of the Dragon bar. Actually, the setting is to confine the Dragon bar to
the
system tray. Other than to exit Naturally Speaking, I will rarely use the
Dragon Bar.
The next most important setting is to set up hotkeys. For example, I set
Shift Plus F-11 to turn the microphone on and off. I use the pause key
temporarily to silence the microphone.
None of these keys will conflict. In fact, if you buy J-Say, certain
Dragon
hotkeys will be suggested, but you can use anything you like. Don't worry
about conflicts.
If you have a good headset microphone which is noise canceling, and if you
can get a little cited assistance to help you through the training, you
really do not need J-Say or J-Tools. I actually own J-Say, but I stopped
using it and uninstalled it. It tended to mess up JAWS, and the
installation
package was not ready for prime time.
It was particularly problematic to install in a corporate environment with
heavy duty security settings. In fact, I don't think I ever got a good
installation of J-Say.
Now, I will dictate an entire document, such as this e-mail message, and
then go back and proofread it with speech off. I never used the JAWS
cursor
for anything. When I find a word that is wrong, I tend to highlight the
word
and then press F10. That brings up a dialog box which, initially, contains
an edit field. If you know how to spell the correct word, just type it in
and hit enter.
If you don't, hit tab and then arrow up and down through the choices. Once
you have identified the term which is most appropriate, you can either hit
enter or hit tab to times to the okay button. I hope this helps.
Go to top



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi.

Please. What settings below work best with Jaws with and without J-Tools
or
J-Say?
Jaws 12, DNS Premium 11.5, Win XP MCE.

It would be very good to have comments and information on how each item
and
choice below effects the basic functionality of Jaws without special
scripts. Then, how the same settings effect J-Tools and J-Say.

I don't have J-Tools or J-Say yet. Sometimes I can work the spelling
dialog
with the Jaws cursor but I have some difficulty knowing when the dialog
appears.Also have some trouble with the main standard Dragon toolbar.
There is a "microphone buttonbutton" that doesn't appear to activate, no
matter how I do it with spacebar or enter. I do have DNS set to start
with
the microphone ready to turn on by voice but sometimes I need to use the
toolbar or the system tray. Sometimes the system tray microphone button
won't activate and doesn't turn on the microphone. It's also a lot of
messing around. I could set up DNS hot keys but don't want to conflict
with
Jaws or the scripts if and when I get them. Suggestions for hotkey
combinations also welcome.

Even switching focus to the Dragon bar is a bit confusing because Jaws
doesn't say a thing and I always have to press tab once to get to that
button.

I've written to the Jaws list first as I don't have the scripts so far.
Hope this is ok.


Options
View

DragonBarPreview: Mode:Docked to TopDocked to BottomFloatingClingTray Icon
OnlyShow messagesShow extrasResults BoxAnchor Auto-hide delay:Show
preliminary results 10 secondsBeep after recognitionRestore defaultsOK
Cancel Apply Help OptionsCorrection "Select" commands bring up Correction
menu"Select" commands search backwards"Correct" commands bring up Spelling
Window"Spell" commands bring up Spelling WindowAutomatically add words to
the active vocabularyAutomatic playback on correctionCorrection MenuShow
only the choicesAnchorEnable double-click to correctShow no more than 9
choicesRestore defaultsOK Cancel Apply Help


Nuts! Outlook Expressed removed all the paragraphs when I copied the text
from Jarte. So,that may be a bit hard to read.


Bob



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Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

Folks who are using windows7,
Can use the speech recognition feature,
After training you can do, send email,
Create and save documents, etc,
I have tried this, and it does work with a little patience.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi thanks for the info. So as I understand, you do the initial
training and then after that does it train itself and improve as you
use it? I suppose it creates some files someware with the info it
learned while you used it, if lets say you install it on another
machine or format your machine, can you easally transfer the files
back or do you have to start training it from scratch. I agree with
you FS should focus more on feetures that people use for work, if I
want damm sport scors I just google it, don't think I ever used
research it after checking it out once.

On 9/6/11, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...> wrote:
Nickus:
I think it works pretty well with JAWS right out of the box (no scripts),
provided (i) you get the settings right (and that may take a little
tinkering) and (ii) you get sighted assistance for 15 to 30 minutes to
help
with the training. J-SAY breaks up the training into little phrases that
you
can repeat immediately after JAWS says the phrases (like repeating wedding
vows at a typical U.S. wedding). Without J-SAY, training is a bear. If,
however, you can sit pretty far from the screen, get someone to read what
is
on the screen softly, and use a decent noise-canceling headset microphone
when you read into the computer, you'll be fine. To train it, you have to
read a short essay.
As for the "Is it worth it," that's a hard one to answer. It is amazingly
accurate. I think 95% is stretching a little. I would say it averages an
error every 5 lines. If you don't screw-up and leave the microphone on
while you are talking on the phone or to someone else, it does get better
and better. The very act of correcting it really is teaching it. You
shouldn't trust either the voice "stop listening" command or the mute
button. Instead, use the keystroke to shut off the microphone.
As for the licensing, I'm not really sure. I only have it on my laptop,
which I carry back and forth to work. I part with my laptop only when
sleeping and showering, and sometimes ... <SMILE>
Probably the biggest drawback for blind users is something, the last time
I
checked, J-SAY had not fixed, and that is homonyms. It is pretty good
about
the most common homonyms like to, two, and too or their, there, and
they're.
For more obscure ones like discreet and discrete, Naturally Speaking is
challenged. Moreover, if it sounded above like I just typed the same word
or
words multiple times, then you know how challenging it is for a blind
person
to catch homonyms.
With Window-Eyes, I created a special homonyms dictionary, which I could
load when I wanted to proof something. It would say and spell the word.
I haven't figured out how to do that with JAWS (I can manually create the
entries in a dictionary (speech settings file), but I cannot swap it in
and
out, and keeping it running all the time is too annoying.) I've suggested
to Freedom Scientific that, in Text Analyzer, an option be added so that
one
could hear (not here) homonyms. Note, with my homonyms dictionary idea,
if
I needed to know about the homonyms, the last phrase would have said hear
h
e eigh r and here h e r e.
So far, I've heard nothing from Freedom Scientific.
For me, having a feature like that is more important and more jobs related
than is, for example, getting the Red Sox scores on Research It, but I
know
Eric is a Red Sox fan. <SMILE>


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi guys. I just recently heard about dragon and wanted to ask some
questions. Based on these posts I gather it works with jaws so there
goes my first question, just not sure does it work with or without
scripts? Well second thing, is it really worth the money, is it really
very accurate I think they clame 95% or something and last thing can I
install it on my desktop and laptop or would I have to buy 2 licences?

On 9/6/11, Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...> wrote:
Does it give you feedback of what you've written as your saying it or do
you
have to wait until the end of reading your document to then review it?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello:
I am writing this e-mail message using Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
One of the most important things to do in Naturally Speaking is to get
rid
of the Dragon bar. Actually, the setting is to confine the Dragon bar to
the
system tray. Other than to exit Naturally Speaking, I will rarely use the
Dragon Bar.
The next most important setting is to set up hotkeys. For example, I set
Shift Plus F-11 to turn the microphone on and off. I use the pause key
temporarily to silence the microphone.
None of these keys will conflict. In fact, if you buy J-Say, certain
Dragon
hotkeys will be suggested, but you can use anything you like. Don't worry
about conflicts.
If you have a good headset microphone which is noise canceling, and if
you
can get a little cited assistance to help you through the training, you
really do not need J-Say or J-Tools. I actually own J-Say, but I stopped
using it and uninstalled it. It tended to mess up JAWS, and the
installation
package was not ready for prime time.
It was particularly problematic to install in a corporate environment
with
heavy duty security settings. In fact, I don't think I ever got a good
installation of J-Say.
Now, I will dictate an entire document, such as this e-mail message, and
then go back and proofread it with speech off. I never used the JAWS
cursor
for anything. When I find a word that is wrong, I tend to highlight the
word
and then press F10. That brings up a dialog box which, initially,
contains
an edit field. If you know how to spell the correct word, just type it in
and hit enter.
If you don't, hit tab and then arrow up and down through the choices.
Once
you have identified the term which is most appropriate, you can either
hit
enter or hit tab to times to the okay button. I hope this helps.
Go to top



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi.

Please. What settings below work best with Jaws with and without J-Tools
or
J-Say?
Jaws 12, DNS Premium 11.5, Win XP MCE.

It would be very good to have comments and information on how each item
and
choice below effects the basic functionality of Jaws without special
scripts. Then, how the same settings effect J-Tools and J-Say.

I don't have J-Tools or J-Say yet. Sometimes I can work the spelling
dialog
with the Jaws cursor but I have some difficulty knowing when the dialog
appears.Also have some trouble with the main standard Dragon toolbar.
There is a "microphone buttonbutton" that doesn't appear to activate, no
matter how I do it with spacebar or enter. I do have DNS set to start
with
the microphone ready to turn on by voice but sometimes I need to use the
toolbar or the system tray. Sometimes the system tray microphone button
won't activate and doesn't turn on the microphone. It's also a lot of
messing around. I could set up DNS hot keys but don't want to conflict
with
Jaws or the scripts if and when I get them. Suggestions for hotkey
combinations also welcome.

Even switching focus to the Dragon bar is a bit confusing because Jaws
doesn't say a thing and I always have to press tab once to get to that
button.

I've written to the Jaws list first as I don't have the scripts so far.
Hope this is ok.


Options
View

DragonBarPreview: Mode:Docked to TopDocked to BottomFloatingClingTray
Icon
OnlyShow messagesShow extrasResults BoxAnchor Auto-hide delay:Show
preliminary results 10 secondsBeep after recognitionRestore defaultsOK
Cancel Apply Help OptionsCorrection "Select" commands bring up Correction
menu"Select" commands search backwards"Correct" commands bring up
Spelling
Window"Spell" commands bring up Spelling WindowAutomatically add words to
the active vocabularyAutomatic playback on correctionCorrection MenuShow
only the choicesAnchorEnable double-click to correctShow no more than 9
choicesRestore defaultsOK Cancel Apply Help


Nuts! Outlook Expressed removed all the paragraphs when I copied the
text
from Jarte. So,that may be a bit hard to read.


Bob



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Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Hi thanks for the info. So as I understand, you do the initial
training and then after that does it train itself and improve as you
use it? I suppose it creates some files someware with the info it
learned while you used it, if lets say you install it on another
machine or format your machine, can you easally transfer the files
back or do you have to start training it from scratch. I agree with
you FS should focus more on feetures that people use for work, if I
want damm sport scors I just google it, don't think I ever used
research it after checking it out once.

On 9/6/11, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...> wrote:
Nickus:
I think it works pretty well with JAWS right out of the box (no scripts),
provided (i) you get the settings right (and that may take a little
tinkering) and (ii) you get sighted assistance for 15 to 30 minutes to help
with the training. J-SAY breaks up the training into little phrases that you
can repeat immediately after JAWS says the phrases (like repeating wedding
vows at a typical U.S. wedding). Without J-SAY, training is a bear. If,
however, you can sit pretty far from the screen, get someone to read what is
on the screen softly, and use a decent noise-canceling headset microphone
when you read into the computer, you'll be fine. To train it, you have to
read a short essay.
As for the "Is it worth it," that's a hard one to answer. It is amazingly
accurate. I think 95% is stretching a little. I would say it averages an
error every 5 lines. If you don't screw-up and leave the microphone on
while you are talking on the phone or to someone else, it does get better
and better. The very act of correcting it really is teaching it. You
shouldn't trust either the voice "stop listening" command or the mute
button. Instead, use the keystroke to shut off the microphone.
As for the licensing, I'm not really sure. I only have it on my laptop,
which I carry back and forth to work. I part with my laptop only when
sleeping and showering, and sometimes ... <SMILE>
Probably the biggest drawback for blind users is something, the last time I
checked, J-SAY had not fixed, and that is homonyms. It is pretty good about
the most common homonyms like to, two, and too or their, there, and they're.
For more obscure ones like discreet and discrete, Naturally Speaking is
challenged. Moreover, if it sounded above like I just typed the same word or
words multiple times, then you know how challenging it is for a blind person
to catch homonyms.
With Window-Eyes, I created a special homonyms dictionary, which I could
load when I wanted to proof something. It would say and spell the word.
I haven't figured out how to do that with JAWS (I can manually create the
entries in a dictionary (speech settings file), but I cannot swap it in and
out, and keeping it running all the time is too annoying.) I've suggested
to Freedom Scientific that, in Text Analyzer, an option be added so that one
could hear (not here) homonyms. Note, with my homonyms dictionary idea, if
I needed to know about the homonyms, the last phrase would have said hear h
e eigh r and here h e r e.
So far, I've heard nothing from Freedom Scientific.
For me, having a feature like that is more important and more jobs related
than is, for example, getting the Red Sox scores on Research It, but I know
Eric is a Red Sox fan. <SMILE>


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi guys. I just recently heard about dragon and wanted to ask some
questions. Based on these posts I gather it works with jaws so there
goes my first question, just not sure does it work with or without
scripts? Well second thing, is it really worth the money, is it really
very accurate I think they clame 95% or something and last thing can I
install it on my desktop and laptop or would I have to buy 2 licences?

On 9/6/11, Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...> wrote:
Does it give you feedback of what you've written as your saying it or do
you
have to wait until the end of reading your document to then review it?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello:
I am writing this e-mail message using Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
One of the most important things to do in Naturally Speaking is to get rid
of the Dragon bar. Actually, the setting is to confine the Dragon bar to
the
system tray. Other than to exit Naturally Speaking, I will rarely use the
Dragon Bar.
The next most important setting is to set up hotkeys. For example, I set
Shift Plus F-11 to turn the microphone on and off. I use the pause key
temporarily to silence the microphone.
None of these keys will conflict. In fact, if you buy J-Say, certain
Dragon
hotkeys will be suggested, but you can use anything you like. Don't worry
about conflicts.
If you have a good headset microphone which is noise canceling, and if you
can get a little cited assistance to help you through the training, you
really do not need J-Say or J-Tools. I actually own J-Say, but I stopped
using it and uninstalled it. It tended to mess up JAWS, and the
installation
package was not ready for prime time.
It was particularly problematic to install in a corporate environment with
heavy duty security settings. In fact, I don't think I ever got a good
installation of J-Say.
Now, I will dictate an entire document, such as this e-mail message, and
then go back and proofread it with speech off. I never used the JAWS
cursor
for anything. When I find a word that is wrong, I tend to highlight the
word
and then press F10. That brings up a dialog box which, initially, contains
an edit field. If you know how to spell the correct word, just type it in
and hit enter.
If you don't, hit tab and then arrow up and down through the choices. Once
you have identified the term which is most appropriate, you can either hit
enter or hit tab to times to the okay button. I hope this helps.
Go to top



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi.

Please. What settings below work best with Jaws with and without J-Tools
or
J-Say?
Jaws 12, DNS Premium 11.5, Win XP MCE.

It would be very good to have comments and information on how each item
and
choice below effects the basic functionality of Jaws without special
scripts. Then, how the same settings effect J-Tools and J-Say.

I don't have J-Tools or J-Say yet. Sometimes I can work the spelling
dialog
with the Jaws cursor but I have some difficulty knowing when the dialog
appears.Also have some trouble with the main standard Dragon toolbar.
There is a "microphone buttonbutton" that doesn't appear to activate, no
matter how I do it with spacebar or enter. I do have DNS set to start
with
the microphone ready to turn on by voice but sometimes I need to use the
toolbar or the system tray. Sometimes the system tray microphone button
won't activate and doesn't turn on the microphone. It's also a lot of
messing around. I could set up DNS hot keys but don't want to conflict
with
Jaws or the scripts if and when I get them. Suggestions for hotkey
combinations also welcome.

Even switching focus to the Dragon bar is a bit confusing because Jaws
doesn't say a thing and I always have to press tab once to get to that
button.

I've written to the Jaws list first as I don't have the scripts so far.
Hope this is ok.


Options
View

DragonBarPreview: Mode:Docked to TopDocked to BottomFloatingClingTray Icon
OnlyShow messagesShow extrasResults BoxAnchor Auto-hide delay:Show
preliminary results 10 secondsBeep after recognitionRestore defaultsOK
Cancel Apply Help OptionsCorrection "Select" commands bring up Correction
menu"Select" commands search backwards"Correct" commands bring up Spelling
Window"Spell" commands bring up Spelling WindowAutomatically add words to
the active vocabularyAutomatic playback on correctionCorrection MenuShow
only the choicesAnchorEnable double-click to correctShow no more than 9
choicesRestore defaultsOK Cancel Apply Help


Nuts! Outlook Expressed removed all the paragraphs when I copied the text
from Jarte. So,that may be a bit hard to read.


Bob



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Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Brian, Jim & peter,

When trying to make changes in cleaner / registry , cleaning/ scanning
options these are the checkboxes that I could never get Jaws to read if they
are checked or not as I arrowed down through them. I went as far as
attempting to label the graphics, & that didn't help either. In looking
through CCleaner, cleaning / scanning options, these are the only checkboxes
there are, except for making changes in tools,options, & settings.
Everything else uses buttons. In order to save myself some time, when
setting CCleaner up on other computers, after getting CCleaner the way I
wanted it on the first computer, I copied the, ccleaner.ini , file and
pasted it into the CCleaner folder in Program Files located in root of the C
drive of our other computers. Now all the computers have CCleaner working
the same & didn't have to spend all that time configuring CCleaner on each
computer separately. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Holdstock
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11


When you say work fine you mean that as you move down the list of items
jaws
says whether it is checked or unchecked without you having to press space
bar to see how it changes? I've tried it on several PCs and have the same
issue.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hansen
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:31 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: c cleaner and Jaws 11

That's interesting, because I'm using the current version of CCleaner and
the latest version of JFW 12, and the check marks work just fine for me.

Blessings,

Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 5:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11

Hi Jim,

Unfortunately, that is the way it is for all Jaws versions with any
version
of CCleaner, at least, that is what I have experienced. CCleaner is
updated

regularly, but the situation doesn't improve. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim L
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:43 PM
Subject: c cleaner and Jaws 11


Heya folks,

What is the best version of C Cleaner that works well with Jaws 11?
I've noticed the latest version check boxes aren't spoken automatically
and
one has to double check every item to know either way which becomes so
tiresome.

cheers,

Jim
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Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Nickus:
I think it works pretty well with JAWS right out of the box (no scripts), provided (i) you get the settings right (and that may take a little tinkering) and (ii) you get sighted assistance for 15 to 30 minutes to help with the training. J-SAY breaks up the training into little phrases that you can repeat immediately after JAWS says the phrases (like repeating wedding vows at a typical U.S. wedding). Without J-SAY, training is a bear. If, however, you can sit pretty far from the screen, get someone to read what is on the screen softly, and use a decent noise-canceling headset microphone when you read into the computer, you'll be fine. To train it, you have to read a short essay.
As for the "Is it worth it," that's a hard one to answer. It is amazingly accurate. I think 95% is stretching a little. I would say it averages an error every 5 lines. If you don't screw-up and leave the microphone on while you are talking on the phone or to someone else, it does get better and better. The very act of correcting it really is teaching it. You shouldn't trust either the voice "stop listening" command or the mute button. Instead, use the keystroke to shut off the microphone.
As for the licensing, I'm not really sure. I only have it on my laptop, which I carry back and forth to work. I part with my laptop only when sleeping and showering, and sometimes ... <SMILE>
Probably the biggest drawback for blind users is something, the last time I checked, J-SAY had not fixed, and that is homonyms. It is pretty good about the most common homonyms like to, two, and too or their, there, and they're.
For more obscure ones like discreet and discrete, Naturally Speaking is challenged. Moreover, if it sounded above like I just typed the same word or words multiple times, then you know how challenging it is for a blind person to catch homonyms.
With Window-Eyes, I created a special homonyms dictionary, which I could load when I wanted to proof something. It would say and spell the word.
I haven't figured out how to do that with JAWS (I can manually create the entries in a dictionary (speech settings file), but I cannot swap it in and out, and keeping it running all the time is too annoying.) I've suggested to Freedom Scientific that, in Text Analyzer, an option be added so that one could hear (not here) homonyms. Note, with my homonyms dictionary idea, if I needed to know about the homonyms, the last phrase would have said hear h e eigh r and here h e r e.
So far, I've heard nothing from Freedom Scientific.
For me, having a feature like that is more important and more jobs related than is, for example, getting the Red Sox scores on Research It, but I know Eric is a Red Sox fan. <SMILE>

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi guys. I just recently heard about dragon and wanted to ask some
questions. Based on these posts I gather it works with jaws so there
goes my first question, just not sure does it work with or without
scripts? Well second thing, is it really worth the money, is it really
very accurate I think they clame 95% or something and last thing can I
install it on my desktop and laptop or would I have to buy 2 licences?

On 9/6/11, Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...> wrote:
Does it give you feedback of what you've written as your saying it or do you
have to wait until the end of reading your document to then review it?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello:
I am writing this e-mail message using Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
One of the most important things to do in Naturally Speaking is to get rid
of the Dragon bar. Actually, the setting is to confine the Dragon bar to the
system tray. Other than to exit Naturally Speaking, I will rarely use the
Dragon Bar.
The next most important setting is to set up hotkeys. For example, I set
Shift Plus F-11 to turn the microphone on and off. I use the pause key
temporarily to silence the microphone.
None of these keys will conflict. In fact, if you buy J-Say, certain Dragon
hotkeys will be suggested, but you can use anything you like. Don't worry
about conflicts.
If you have a good headset microphone which is noise canceling, and if you
can get a little cited assistance to help you through the training, you
really do not need J-Say or J-Tools. I actually own J-Say, but I stopped
using it and uninstalled it. It tended to mess up JAWS, and the installation
package was not ready for prime time.
It was particularly problematic to install in a corporate environment with
heavy duty security settings. In fact, I don't think I ever got a good
installation of J-Say.
Now, I will dictate an entire document, such as this e-mail message, and
then go back and proofread it with speech off. I never used the JAWS cursor
for anything. When I find a word that is wrong, I tend to highlight the word
and then press F10. That brings up a dialog box which, initially, contains
an edit field. If you know how to spell the correct word, just type it in
and hit enter.
If you don't, hit tab and then arrow up and down through the choices. Once
you have identified the term which is most appropriate, you can either hit
enter or hit tab to times to the okay button. I hope this helps.
Go to top



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi.

Please. What settings below work best with Jaws with and without J-Tools or
J-Say?
Jaws 12, DNS Premium 11.5, Win XP MCE.

It would be very good to have comments and information on how each item and
choice below effects the basic functionality of Jaws without special
scripts. Then, how the same settings effect J-Tools and J-Say.

I don't have J-Tools or J-Say yet. Sometimes I can work the spelling dialog
with the Jaws cursor but I have some difficulty knowing when the dialog
appears.Also have some trouble with the main standard Dragon toolbar.
There is a "microphone buttonbutton" that doesn't appear to activate, no
matter how I do it with spacebar or enter. I do have DNS set to start with
the microphone ready to turn on by voice but sometimes I need to use the
toolbar or the system tray. Sometimes the system tray microphone button
won't activate and doesn't turn on the microphone. It's also a lot of
messing around. I could set up DNS hot keys but don't want to conflict with
Jaws or the scripts if and when I get them. Suggestions for hotkey
combinations also welcome.

Even switching focus to the Dragon bar is a bit confusing because Jaws
doesn't say a thing and I always have to press tab once to get to that
button.

I've written to the Jaws list first as I don't have the scripts so far.
Hope this is ok.


Options
View

DragonBarPreview: Mode:Docked to TopDocked to BottomFloatingClingTray Icon
OnlyShow messagesShow extrasResults BoxAnchor Auto-hide delay:Show
preliminary results 10 secondsBeep after recognitionRestore defaultsOK
Cancel Apply Help OptionsCorrection "Select" commands bring up Correction
menu"Select" commands search backwards"Correct" commands bring up Spelling
Window"Spell" commands bring up Spelling WindowAutomatically add words to
the active vocabularyAutomatic playback on correctionCorrection MenuShow
only the choicesAnchorEnable double-click to correctShow no more than 9
choicesRestore defaultsOK Cancel Apply Help


Nuts! Outlook Expressed removed all the paragraphs when I copied the text
from Jarte. So,that may be a bit hard to read.


Bob



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Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

There might be a way to make JAWS enunciate back what one has just dictated. I know J-SAY works that way. That, however, just tended to slow me down. Having spent years dictating into a Dictaphone where, to review, one had to press rewind, I don't mind not getting immediate feedback while I'm dictating. Besides, with JAWS, I can review a line at a time with up arrow or sentence at a time with Alt plus up arrow.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 1:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Does it give you feedback of what you've written as your saying it or do you
have to wait until the end of reading your document to then review it?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello:
I am writing this e-mail message using Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
One of the most important things to do in Naturally Speaking is to get rid
of the Dragon bar. Actually, the setting is to confine the Dragon bar to the
system tray. Other than to exit Naturally Speaking, I will rarely use the
Dragon Bar.
The next most important setting is to set up hotkeys. For example, I set
Shift Plus F-11 to turn the microphone on and off. I use the pause key
temporarily to silence the microphone.
None of these keys will conflict. In fact, if you buy J-Say, certain Dragon
hotkeys will be suggested, but you can use anything you like. Don't worry
about conflicts.
If you have a good headset microphone which is noise canceling, and if you
can get a little cited assistance to help you through the training, you
really do not need J-Say or J-Tools. I actually own J-Say, but I stopped
using it and uninstalled it. It tended to mess up JAWS, and the installation
package was not ready for prime time.
It was particularly problematic to install in a corporate environment with
heavy duty security settings. In fact, I don't think I ever got a good
installation of J-Say.
Now, I will dictate an entire document, such as this e-mail message, and
then go back and proofread it with speech off. I never used the JAWS cursor
for anything. When I find a word that is wrong, I tend to highlight the word
and then press F10. That brings up a dialog box which, initially, contains
an edit field. If you know how to spell the correct word, just type it in
and hit enter.
If you don't, hit tab and then arrow up and down through the choices. Once
you have identified the term which is most appropriate, you can either hit
enter or hit tab to times to the okay button. I hope this helps.
Go to top



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi.

Please. What settings below work best with Jaws with and without J-Tools or
J-Say?
Jaws 12, DNS Premium 11.5, Win XP MCE.

It would be very good to have comments and information on how each item and
choice below effects the basic functionality of Jaws without special
scripts. Then, how the same settings effect J-Tools and J-Say.

I don't have J-Tools or J-Say yet. Sometimes I can work the spelling dialog
with the Jaws cursor but I have some difficulty knowing when the dialog
appears.Also have some trouble with the main standard Dragon toolbar.
There is a "microphone buttonbutton" that doesn't appear to activate, no
matter how I do it with spacebar or enter. I do have DNS set to start with
the microphone ready to turn on by voice but sometimes I need to use the
toolbar or the system tray. Sometimes the system tray microphone button
won't activate and doesn't turn on the microphone. It's also a lot of
messing around. I could set up DNS hot keys but don't want to conflict with
Jaws or the scripts if and when I get them. Suggestions for hotkey
combinations also welcome.

Even switching focus to the Dragon bar is a bit confusing because Jaws
doesn't say a thing and I always have to press tab once to get to that
button.

I've written to the Jaws list first as I don't have the scripts so far.
Hope this is ok.


Options
View

DragonBarPreview: Mode:Docked to TopDocked to BottomFloatingClingTray Icon
OnlyShow messagesShow extrasResults BoxAnchor Auto-hide delay:Show
preliminary results 10 secondsBeep after recognitionRestore defaultsOK
Cancel Apply Help OptionsCorrection "Select" commands bring up Correction
menu"Select" commands search backwards"Correct" commands bring up Spelling
Window"Spell" commands bring up Spelling WindowAutomatically add words to
the active vocabularyAutomatic playback on correctionCorrection MenuShow
only the choicesAnchorEnable double-click to correctShow no more than 9
choicesRestore defaultsOK Cancel Apply Help


Nuts! Outlook Expressed removed all the paragraphs when I copied the text
from Jarte. So,that may be a bit hard to read.


Bob



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Re: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Hi guys. I just recently heard about dragon and wanted to ask some
questions. Based on these posts I gather it works with jaws so there
goes my first question, just not sure does it work with or without
scripts? Well second thing, is it really worth the money, is it really
very accurate I think they clame 95% or something and last thing can I
install it on my desktop and laptop or would I have to buy 2 licences?

On 9/6/11, Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...> wrote:
Does it give you feedback of what you've written as your saying it or do you
have to wait until the end of reading your document to then review it?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hello:
I am writing this e-mail message using Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
One of the most important things to do in Naturally Speaking is to get rid
of the Dragon bar. Actually, the setting is to confine the Dragon bar to the
system tray. Other than to exit Naturally Speaking, I will rarely use the
Dragon Bar.
The next most important setting is to set up hotkeys. For example, I set
Shift Plus F-11 to turn the microphone on and off. I use the pause key
temporarily to silence the microphone.
None of these keys will conflict. In fact, if you buy J-Say, certain Dragon
hotkeys will be suggested, but you can use anything you like. Don't worry
about conflicts.
If you have a good headset microphone which is noise canceling, and if you
can get a little cited assistance to help you through the training, you
really do not need J-Say or J-Tools. I actually own J-Say, but I stopped
using it and uninstalled it. It tended to mess up JAWS, and the installation
package was not ready for prime time.
It was particularly problematic to install in a corporate environment with
heavy duty security settings. In fact, I don't think I ever got a good
installation of J-Say.
Now, I will dictate an entire document, such as this e-mail message, and
then go back and proofread it with speech off. I never used the JAWS cursor
for anything. When I find a word that is wrong, I tend to highlight the word
and then press F10. That brings up a dialog box which, initially, contains
an edit field. If you know how to spell the correct word, just type it in
and hit enter.
If you don't, hit tab and then arrow up and down through the choices. Once
you have identified the term which is most appropriate, you can either hit
enter or hit tab to times to the okay button. I hope this helps.
Go to top



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 12 with Dragon Naturallyspeaking 11.5

Hi.

Please. What settings below work best with Jaws with and without J-Tools or
J-Say?
Jaws 12, DNS Premium 11.5, Win XP MCE.

It would be very good to have comments and information on how each item and
choice below effects the basic functionality of Jaws without special
scripts. Then, how the same settings effect J-Tools and J-Say.

I don't have J-Tools or J-Say yet. Sometimes I can work the spelling dialog
with the Jaws cursor but I have some difficulty knowing when the dialog
appears.Also have some trouble with the main standard Dragon toolbar.
There is a "microphone buttonbutton" that doesn't appear to activate, no
matter how I do it with spacebar or enter. I do have DNS set to start with
the microphone ready to turn on by voice but sometimes I need to use the
toolbar or the system tray. Sometimes the system tray microphone button
won't activate and doesn't turn on the microphone. It's also a lot of
messing around. I could set up DNS hot keys but don't want to conflict with
Jaws or the scripts if and when I get them. Suggestions for hotkey
combinations also welcome.

Even switching focus to the Dragon bar is a bit confusing because Jaws
doesn't say a thing and I always have to press tab once to get to that
button.

I've written to the Jaws list first as I don't have the scripts so far.
Hope this is ok.


Options
View

DragonBarPreview: Mode:Docked to TopDocked to BottomFloatingClingTray Icon
OnlyShow messagesShow extrasResults BoxAnchor Auto-hide delay:Show
preliminary results 10 secondsBeep after recognitionRestore defaultsOK
Cancel Apply Help OptionsCorrection "Select" commands bring up Correction
menu"Select" commands search backwards"Correct" commands bring up Spelling
Window"Spell" commands bring up Spelling WindowAutomatically add words to
the active vocabularyAutomatic playback on correctionCorrection MenuShow
only the choicesAnchorEnable double-click to correctShow no more than 9
choicesRestore defaultsOK Cancel Apply Help


Nuts! Outlook Expressed removed all the paragraphs when I copied the text
from Jarte. So,that may be a bit hard to read.


Bob



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