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Re: Word Press
Cliff Self
When I said the program was extremely graphical, I ment the control panel, which they call the dashboard. As near as I can tell it's totally inaccessible to Jaws because it's all graphics and no text. I'm afraid all I can do at this point is wish you luck.
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Cliff
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From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: RE: Word Press The first page I tried to upload had no graphics, but it is supposed to
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Re: SMA Notice
Dave...
David,
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Well, I'm flummoxed. Never heard of that and FS never alerted me to it. Since I just purchased a new SMA for 14/15 I suspect I need to "renew" my dongle. I'll give them a call. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 14:39 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Hello Dave; I did contact Freedom Scientific, And indeed, one can update the dongle. They did send me a file, so, I just need to do the appropriate steps. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 4:45 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Ted, You mention the Kenwood manual. I'm presuming that it's in a "no text on page" PDF? Bear in mind that the Convenient OCR will only allow you to read each page, and not allow you to save the conversion. I didn't want your expectations to be too high. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 13:35 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Thought so. I was born at night, but not lass night. Anyway, I now have the disk in my hot little hand, and will get after it tomorrow. I'll probably have to initially deactivate, given past experience, and I'd like to see how it does with Access, but, one way or the other, I think I'm finally good to go. I've got an old Kenwood manual that ought to be a great test for the OCR. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Dongle doesn't replace the SMA. It doesn't replace purchasing any new versions. It only replaces the ILM authorization scheme. Removes the need to authorize using an ILM key. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 04:56 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Word Press
John ESherrer
The first page I tried to upload had no graphics, but it is supposed to
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automatically deal with graphics. It will take some time to get it down. I was hoping for some help from JAWS, but so far that is not the case. John
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Word Press I asked the same question and got no answer, so I suspect the answer is no. When searching for scripts I found some tutorials on managing WordPress widgits with Jaws. You can probably find them by searching for those terms. However, the program is extremely graphical. I've had to ask my sighted wife to manage my website for me. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:03 PM Subject: Word Press Hi JAWS Users _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: SMA Notice
David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Hello Dave;
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I did contact Freedom Scientific, And indeed, one can update the dongle. They did send me a file, so, I just need to do the appropriate steps.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 4:45 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Ted, You mention the Kenwood manual. I'm presuming that it's in a "no text on page" PDF? Bear in mind that the Convenient OCR will only allow you to read each page, and not allow you to save the conversion. I didn't want your expectations to be too high. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 13:35 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Thought so. I was born at night, but not lass night. Anyway, I now have the disk in my hot little hand, and will get after it tomorrow. I'll probably have to initially deactivate, given past experience, and I'd like to see how it does with Access, but, one way or the other, I think I'm finally good to go. I've got an old Kenwood manual that ought to be a great test for the OCR. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Dongle doesn't replace the SMA. It doesn't replace purchasing any new versions. It only replaces the ILM authorization scheme. Removes the need to authorize using an ILM key. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 04:56 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: SMA Notice
Dave...
Ted,
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You mention the Kenwood manual. I'm presuming that it's in a "no text on page" PDF? Bear in mind that the Convenient OCR will only allow you to read each page, and not allow you to save the conversion. I didn't want your expectations to be too high. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 13:35 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Thought so. I was born at night, but not lass night. Anyway, I now have the disk in my hot little hand, and will get after it tomorrow. I'll probably have to initially deactivate, given past experience, and I'd like to see how it does with Access, but, one way or the other, I think I'm finally good to go. I've got an old Kenwood manual that ought to be a great test for the OCR. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Dongle doesn't replace the SMA. It doesn't replace purchasing any new versions. It only replaces the ILM authorization scheme. Removes the need to authorize using an ILM key. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 04:56 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: SMA Notice
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Thought so. I was born at night, but not lass night. Anyway, I now
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have the disk in my hot little hand, and will get after it tomorrow. I'll probably have to initially deactivate, given past experience, and I'd like to see how it does with Access, but, one way or the other, I think I'm finally good to go. I've got an old Kenwood manual that ought to be a great test for the OCR.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Dongle doesn't replace the SMA. It doesn't replace purchasing any new versions. It only replaces the ILM authorization scheme. Removes the need to authorize using an ILM key. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 04:56 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: SMA Notice
Dave...
David,
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Give FS a call. I also see 0 updates remaining, but that is a record of what I've purchased or renewed via SMA -- nothing to do with authorization keys on the web. BTW I've already purchased SMA for 14 and 15 and still I show 0 updates. So it means that at some point it magically changes to 2, but I sure don't know how or when. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 09:12 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Hi Dave, Yes I understand your logic, However, I got this dongle with jaws 10, So I had authorization with 10 11 12, So, now, I just recently updated my sma to 13 with one more update. I have 4 computers here, One is specificly for testing, I'm running 10 11 12 versions, on this machine. When 12 is loaded, The jaws dongle shows 0 updates, So I cannot authorize jaws13 using the dongle. This is why I ask, When I go and check, I see; About JAWS JAWS Job Access With Speech Version 12.0.1170 Serial Number : ...... Special Update Code... Locking Code: ... Software Maintenance Agreement Upgrades Remaining: 0 Remote Access: Disabled Tandem Direct: Disabled Authorized using a Dongle. Display Device: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family (WDDM) My question is regarding, Special update code ... -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 11:44 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice David, Again the dongle allows you to legitimately authorize a legitimate copy of JAWS on your machine, and removes the need to go through the on-line ILM authorization scheme. To me it makes no sense that it would need to be updated. It is linked to my serial number, so I guard it against anyone else making use of it. I think a good use of a dongle would be in setting up other computers and/or providing some training/introduction to JAWS for others on their machines. Once I the installer/tutor leaves and takes the dongle with me, the student/customer needs to make any necessary remuneration to make their installed copy of JAWS authorized. Note that I purchased the dongle when I had JAWS 12, before JAWS 13 came out. So one would wonder if I needed to update the dongle in order for JAWS 13 to work with it -- it is not the case. I've now installed JAWS 13 on that machine, and it runs with the dongle as its authorization just fine with no complaints. It's handy, too. I have just installed a new Blue-Ray burner in my DAW, and of course it changed my hardware locking code and JAWS 13 came up in 40-minute mode. I plugged in the dongle and re-loaded JAWS. All is fine now. So that is an extremely good demonstration of the usefulness of the dongle, since I installed the burner on Friday evening. I do have one ILM authorization left but I don't want to burn it yet, until I've completed all the hardware changes on my DAW and I'm sure it's static again. Then I'll use the FSActivate to re-authorize both JAWS and Opoenbook 9. Then since my JAWS keys will be down to 0 I'll send in a request to FS to bump up my keys again. I've been burning a few lately with Windows 7 coming to my laptop, and all the hardware I've been changing on my DAW. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 07:55 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Hello Dave, Can a dongle be updated? I recently updated my SMA, on home computer, So, I'm wondering if I can apply the update to my dongle? Or, do I just use the thumb drive downloadable files from fs, -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Dongle doesn't replace the SMA. It doesn't replace purchasing any new versions. It only replaces the ILM authorization scheme. Removes the need to authorize using an ILM key. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 04:56 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: SMA Notice
David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Hi Dave,
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Yes I understand your logic, However, I got this dongle with jaws 10, So I had authorization with 10 11 12, So, now, I just recently updated my sma to 13 with one more update. I have 4 computers here, One is specificly for testing, I'm running 10 11 12 versions, on this machine. When 12 is loaded, The jaws dongle shows 0 updates, So I cannot authorize jaws13 using the dongle. This is why I ask, When I go and check, I see; About JAWS JAWS Job Access With Speech Version 12.0.1170 Serial Number : ...... Special Update Code... Locking Code: ... Software Maintenance Agreement Upgrades Remaining: 0 Remote Access: Disabled Tandem Direct: Disabled Authorized using a Dongle. Display Device: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family (WDDM) My question is regarding, Special update code ...
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 11:44 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice David, Again the dongle allows you to legitimately authorize a legitimate copy of JAWS on your machine, and removes the need to go through the on-line ILM authorization scheme. To me it makes no sense that it would need to be updated. It is linked to my serial number, so I guard it against anyone else making use of it. I think a good use of a dongle would be in setting up other computers and/or providing some training/introduction to JAWS for others on their machines. Once I the installer/tutor leaves and takes the dongle with me, the student/customer needs to make any necessary remuneration to make their installed copy of JAWS authorized. Note that I purchased the dongle when I had JAWS 12, before JAWS 13 came out. So one would wonder if I needed to update the dongle in order for JAWS 13 to work with it -- it is not the case. I've now installed JAWS 13 on that machine, and it runs with the dongle as its authorization just fine with no complaints. It's handy, too. I have just installed a new Blue-Ray burner in my DAW, and of course it changed my hardware locking code and JAWS 13 came up in 40-minute mode. I plugged in the dongle and re-loaded JAWS. All is fine now. So that is an extremely good demonstration of the usefulness of the dongle, since I installed the burner on Friday evening. I do have one ILM authorization left but I don't want to burn it yet, until I've completed all the hardware changes on my DAW and I'm sure it's static again. Then I'll use the FSActivate to re-authorize both JAWS and Opoenbook 9. Then since my JAWS keys will be down to 0 I'll send in a request to FS to bump up my keys again. I've been burning a few lately with Windows 7 coming to my laptop, and all the hardware I've been changing on my DAW. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 07:55 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Hello Dave, Can a dongle be updated? I recently updated my SMA, on home computer, So, I'm wondering if I can apply the update to my dongle? Or, do I just use the thumb drive downloadable files from fs, -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Dongle doesn't replace the SMA. It doesn't replace purchasing any new versions. It only replaces the ILM authorization scheme. Removes the need to authorize using an ILM key. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 04:56 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: SMA Notice
Dave...
David,
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Again the dongle allows you to legitimately authorize a legitimate copy of JAWS on your machine, and removes the need to go through the on-line ILM authorization scheme. To me it makes no sense that it would need to be updated. It is linked to my serial number, so I guard it against anyone else making use of it. I think a good use of a dongle would be in setting up other computers and/or providing some training/introduction to JAWS for others on their machines. Once I the installer/tutor leaves and takes the dongle with me, the student/customer needs to make any necessary remuneration to make their installed copy of JAWS authorized. Note that I purchased the dongle when I had JAWS 12, before JAWS 13 came out. So one would wonder if I needed to update the dongle in order for JAWS 13 to work with it -- it is not the case. I've now installed JAWS 13 on that machine, and it runs with the dongle as its authorization just fine with no complaints. It's handy, too. I have just installed a new Blue-Ray burner in my DAW, and of course it changed my hardware locking code and JAWS 13 came up in 40-minute mode. I plugged in the dongle and re-loaded JAWS. All is fine now. So that is an extremely good demonstration of the usefulness of the dongle, since I installed the burner on Friday evening. I do have one ILM authorization left but I don't want to burn it yet, until I've completed all the hardware changes on my DAW and I'm sure it's static again. Then I'll use the FSActivate to re-authorize both JAWS and Opoenbook 9. Then since my JAWS keys will be down to 0 I'll send in a request to FS to bump up my keys again. I've been burning a few lately with Windows 7 coming to my laptop, and all the hardware I've been changing on my DAW. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 07:55 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Hello Dave, Can a dongle be updated? I recently updated my SMA, on home computer, So, I'm wondering if I can apply the update to my dongle? Or, do I just use the thumb drive downloadable files from fs, -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Dongle doesn't replace the SMA. It doesn't replace purchasing any new versions. It only replaces the ILM authorization scheme. Removes the need to authorize using an ILM key. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 04:56 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: installing jfw without burning a key
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
Yes I did and I am back to one key as I just checked it right now as I am
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typing this message. Peace!
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:33 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, On the FSActivate site there is a link to fill out a form to request that your activation count be reinstated. Have you done that? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 21:10 Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key I don't even have jaws 12 installed. All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes. I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left. Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no more activations left on the FSActivate web site? IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13. If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12 should then run normally. If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key will not help. So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you can surmise. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30 Subject: installing jfw without burning a key I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 06/9279e1ee/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: SMA Notice
David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Hello Dave,
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Can a dongle be updated? I recently updated my SMA, on home computer, So, I'm wondering if I can apply the update to my dongle? Or, do I just use the thumb drive downloadable files from fs,
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice Dongle doesn't replace the SMA. It doesn't replace purchasing any new versions. It only replaces the ILM authorization scheme. Removes the need to authorize using an ILM key. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 04:56 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: SMA Notice
Dave...
Dongle doesn't replace the SMA. It doesn't replace purchasing any new
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versions. It only replaces the ILM authorization scheme. Removes the need to authorize using an ILM key. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 04:56 Subject: RE: SMA Notice Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: installing jfw without burning a key
Dave...
Kimsan,
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On the FSActivate site there is a link to fill out a form to request that your activation count be reinstated. Have you done that? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 21:10 Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key I don't even have jaws 12 installed. All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes. I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left. Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no more activations left on the FSActivate web site? IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13. If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12 should then run normally. If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key will not help. So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you can surmise. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30 Subject: installing jfw without burning a key I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 06/9279e1ee/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Jaws 11 / Focus 40 BT
Londa Peterson <lpeterson@...>
Yes, each version of JAWS is installed in a separate folder. Give it a try
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and see if it works. I'd skip 12 and go right to 13. Hope this helps.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Richard Holloway Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 9:23 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 11 / Focus 40 BT Interesting. That might make some sense though, as I'm pretty certain when we saw the demo of the FOCUS unit at the show, it was running JAWS 12. So if I want to test this, can I load JAWS 12 (and / or v.13) to test this and not mess up the full install of JAWS 11? On Nov 7, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Londa Peterson wrote: I don't think you can do contracted Braille input with JAWS 11. I thinkyou need 12 or higher. Sorry.as the default and corrected it to a FOCUS display, but it didn't make anyBT is a Braille Keyboard and a Display.is simply missing? Hopefully I can get to them at FS on the phone soon. Ithink either a driver is missing or I must be overlooking some sort of keyboardget it to show up as "paired", but something is wrong when I use it that way--pops up in braille (and in the bluetooth list of the computer) so it is indeed _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Jaws 11 / Focus 40 BT
Richard Holloway
Interesting. That might make some sense though, as I'm pretty certain when we saw the demo of the FOCUS unit at the show, it was running JAWS 12.
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So if I want to test this, can I load JAWS 12 (and / or v.13) to test this and not mess up the full install of JAWS 11?
On Nov 7, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Londa Peterson wrote:
I don't think you can do contracted Braille input with JAWS 11. I think you
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Re: Jaws 11 / Focus 40 BT
Londa Peterson <lpeterson@...>
I don't think you can do contracted Braille input with JAWS 11. I think you
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need 12 or higher. Sorry.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Richard Holloway Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:00 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Jaws 11 / Focus 40 BT Thanks. I do find the contracted braille option there but that seems to be for just the display itself, not the keyboard input style. The display is showing contracted content. I noticed it was set to use a Pacmate display as the default and corrected it to a FOCUS display, but it didn't make any obvious changes to what is happening. Obviously the Pacmate display (when removed and used as a standalone) is just that-- a display. The FOCUS 40 BT is a Braille Keyboard and a Display. Then again, the menu option only says "FOCUS", and I think all except the Bluetooth FOCUS display have no braille keyboard. Maybe the proper driver is simply missing? Hopefully I can get to them at FS on the phone soon. I think either a driver is missing or I must be overlooking some sort of keyboard preferences option somewhere... I also have yet to get the keyboard working as a Bluetooth device. I can get it to show up as "paired", but something is wrong when I use it that way-- nothing happens except that the device does come on and the device name pops up in braille (and in the bluetooth list of the computer) so it is indeed coming on. It simply has to be plugged in via USB right now to be used. Most of the problem is probably my lack of familiarity with all of this stuff. It is just all very different that what I'm familiar with. (I'm a Macintosh Graphics person. ) If I figure anything out I'll post it in case others are interested. Thanks, Richard On Nov 3, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Ann Byrne wrote: Under setting center, go to Braille, general, translation options. Isuppose just tinker there, but it sounds like the right place. mode contractedwith Jaws 11 for quite a while, but she had use one before in typemode. I believe she said it always displays contracted but she has to (gradeuncontracted. I actually didn't realize the keyboard was running finding2 / grade 1) please? I suspect it is a simple keystroke, but I'm not thethe solution in the print manual, nor does my third grader see it in forbraille version. (She's actually often able to find things like this herself.) _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: SMA Notice
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Are you saying those don't' have to be renewed? I would never have
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thought of that. Just look at what a SMA costs, compared to the price of such a one-time purchase.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: SMA Notice No, the dongle is not version-specific. It cost me just a few cents over US$58 to send it to my mailbox. Also I had to digitally sign a form promising that I would never ever use the dongle in a way as to pervert the use of it strictly for my purposes. Or something along those lines. They guard those dongles with enormous zeal. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@gopbc.org> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 18:30 Subject: Re: SMA Notice Well there we go again, paying more than once for the same thing. Frustrating, isn't it? They certainly never mentioned the "authorize" option to me when we were looking at buying both a few years back. Do you mind if I ask what the dongle cost? And is it version-specific somehow? On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: Richard,paid much attention to that option to "Use Authorization from PacMate"under theI justnon-authorization issues.Area ----- Original Message -----to twoare reasons to stay current. And I have no problem with being legal. Isupport it fully, but I don't support paying for more than one license for athe same authorizations and capacities, and it sounds like maybe I am.Perhaps several of us are if we own both JAWS and a PAC Mate.that a PAC Mate (a $3,000+ item I already bought before) includes a licenseto runcomputer. Unhooked JAWS would run on the computer in Demo Mode. Sort of makessense, you can't use both machines alone if they are connected and each hasJAWS installed.no way to test it. Sounds to me like I already spent $1000 too much whenI bought JAWS and the PAC Mate at the same time as each includesapparently includes a JAWS license. Where I am unclear is as to what versions aretest ashoping to hear from a PAC Mate user who tried this feature.JAWS isthis feature. that FSstay she'dmakes to developments on the Web. akeep (ifdemo summer.)you have one). (A FS guy told us this at a trade show this past myWell, we have a "spare" PAC Mate that we basically never use because asdaughter prefers her BrailleNote Apex. for$900 JAWS that just turns off after what, 30 or 40 minutes? fromnow. I thought of buying the new SMA, but what does that gain for us? av.9 paiddesktop machine so it isn't like we need to be mobile-- this is just look tocopy of JAWS and so far we haven't gone past v.11. Just trying to hadthe future. thereto have. I saved a few bucks, but I can say unequivocally that andis a huge difference in performance on the Internet between JAWS 5 15JAWS 12.People probably don't notice that much of a difference version to $100would have been dollarless. in all this, but still... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: installing jfw without burning a key
Adrian Spratt
Kimsan,
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This isn't a complete answer, but keep these points in mind. List members have said you shouldn't install a version of JAWS that is earlier than one you have on your system. In the event that you want to, it would seem logical to uninstall the higher version, then start installing with the lower one, followed by the higher again. I think you realize that installing a later version of JAWS on a system that has an earlier version won't affect your authorization count. So the question is whether you lose an authorization when you uninstall a later version in order to add an earlier one and reinstall the later one. It's now Monday, so you could call FS tech support, or maybe even better, their authorization department for the procedure. As I recall, both departments are at the same phone number, but each has its own extension.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 12:10 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key I don't even have jaws 12 installed. All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes. I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left. Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no more activations left on the FSActivate web site? IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13. If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12 should then run normally. If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key will not help. So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you can surmise. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30 Subject: installing jfw without burning a key I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 06/9279e1ee/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: installing jfw without burning a key
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
I don't even have jaws 12 installed.
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All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes. I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left. Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no more activations left on the FSActivate web site? IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13. If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12 should then run normally. If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key will not help. So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you can surmise. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30 Subject: installing jfw without burning a key I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 06/9279e1ee/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: help with punctuation
Dave...
Dante - OE is Outlook Express.
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From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 19:44 Subject: RE: help with punctuation What does OE stand for, does anybody know? Dondi -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: help with punctuation Phyllis, From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 andearlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an earlier post of mine. Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager. Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice adjustment and tab to punctuation. The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires creating a voice profile. Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time. Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes: I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe, as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none, unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile, there is a selection, Punctuation none. So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it would be slower than my default voice. In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and would have a slower reading rate. After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE. It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set in the JAWS profile. ** Punctuation Levels -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: help with punctuation Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation. I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a space! Help? When boundaries are present, there is fear. When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist. - James A. Ray Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties Simon and Sarah catlady1949@charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3998 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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