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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Dave...
 

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: jaws any version

Adrian Spratt
 

There have been several muddying messages on this subject on this list.
First, FS's license by itself doesn't determine what rights users have. In
the U.S., state law typically recognizes implied warranty protections that
are additional to the express warranties written into a license agreement. I
believe this dual protection is followed in countries that have an English
common law heritage.

There is no need to get into the distinctions among copyright, patents,
trademarks and other intellectual property rights. The concept of a
product's fitness to serve the purpose for which it is intended is a
consumer protection.

Most countries run consumer protection offices. In the U.S., the best place
to go for this kind of assistance is the Attorney General's office of the
state where you live, although some of those offices will refer complaints
to the A.G. for the state where the company has its home office. One or two
complaints are unlikely to generate a serious response, but complaints from
a sizable number of consumers could trigger enforcement action.

I am not advocating a complaint-filing campaign. Many subscribers to this
list are content with JAWS, a factor that would go into any enforcement
officer's decision-making process. I'm just trying to clear up the
misunderstandings in this thread.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of d.durber@...
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 5:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws any version

Dorothy:

Soft products, such as books and computer software are covered by each
respective countries Copyright laws, and not laws which pertain to other
types of products, such as computer hardeware, clothing, household goods,
etc.

Your friend should not get confused, between the different laws covering
various types of products, as each country determines the standards and
conditions under which different types of products are sold and warrantees
for each type of product, are covered by the particular laws for the
particular country concerned.

Your friend should read the license for each product to determine any
conditions and rights, in this case the Freedom Scientific JAWS License
Agreement, which can be found in the JAWS Help system.

If your friend needs any further clarrification as to the terms and
conditions of the JAWS License Agreement, they should either contact the
Freedom Scientific dealer in the country in which they live or, they should
contact Freedom Scientific directly, either by email , by phone or by snail
mail.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: jaws any version

take care of what exactly? surely if the sale of goods act does not apply,
then do we rely on fs to meet the standards we expect? if so many of the
problems I see on this list and it is a busy list will only be solved by the
client either putting pressure on fs with their wallet or living in hopes
the next version will solve all our problems wellunless you can say
differently I assume the laws relating to software is much the same
worldwide,although prices will differ I think from country to country as I
have read on this list. However I am sure you meant well kind regards
dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: jaws any version

dorthy, if we purchase from freedom scientific they would take care of this.
this is not our problem. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: jaws any version

Dear list I just want to be sure that Jaws and in fact all screen readers
are sold under licence I ask since an interesting topic arose on a list I am
not a member of,a friend just selects any item he thinks is interesting It
was pertaining to jaws however. One of the posts said he was not sure about
USA, and mentioned the SGA act,that in Uk means the sale of goods act of
1979, It states an item sold must be "fit for purpose" in English law it is
6 years in Scotland it is 5, the listersaid "i do not know about USA. Well
that act is of course very important but although many Posts were posted, no
one mentioned that software is in fact sold underLicence I expect the Usa
law is much the same but of courseI maybe wrong I know computers
i.e.hardware is but since Jaws was the subject can you confirm what I
imagine is the case regards dorothy

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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
 

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

John Martyn
 

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my next project which I am not announcing yet.
John

----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: jaws any version

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Many thanks dave, I was sent the posts by friends on the jaws list in uk,I
am sure they all knew about fs licence conditions,but one man mentioned the
sga act which means an item mustbe fit for purpose now that act is a Uk act
of course.the battle really got heated up as they list members got angry
atbeing told if they are unhappy move to another screen reader, some
couldnot do that,and explained why. But shouldnot have to .In us laws
differ from state to state but I think jaws is sold under licence in most
states of course they can go to fs directly I once had to do that myself I
am not saying it was easy,but it was necessary regards dorothy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of d.durber@...
Sent: 08 October 2011 22:01
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws any version

Dorothy:

Soft products, such as books and computer software are covered by each
respective countries Copyright laws, and not laws which pertain to other
types of products, such as computer hardeware, clothing, household goods,
etc.

Your friend should not get confused, between the different laws covering
various types of products, as each country determines the standards and
conditions under which different types of products are sold and warrantees
for each type of product, are covered by the particular laws for the
particular country concerned.

Your friend should read the license for each product to determine any
conditions and rights, in this case the Freedom Scientific JAWS License
Agreement, which can be found in the JAWS Help system.

If your friend needs any further clarrification as to the terms and
conditions of the JAWS License Agreement, they should either contact the
Freedom Scientific dealer in the country in which they live or, they should
contact Freedom Scientific directly, either by email , by phone or by snail
mail.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: jaws any version


take care of what exactly? surely if the sale of goods act does not apply,
then do we rely on fs to meet the standards we expect? if so many of the
problems I see on this list and it is a busy list will only be solved by
the
client either putting pressure on fs with their wallet or living in hopes
the next version will solve all our problems wellunless you can say
differently I assume the laws relating to software is much the same
worldwide,although prices will differ I think from country to country as I
have read on this list. However I am sure you meant well kind regards
dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: jaws any version


dorthy, if we purchase from freedom scientific they would take care of
this. this is not our problem. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: jaws any version


Dear list I just want to be sure that Jaws and in fact all screen
readers
are sold under licence I ask since an interesting topic arose on a list
I
am
not a member of,a friend just selects any item he thinks is interesting
It
was pertaining to jaws however. One of the posts said he was not sure
about
USA, and mentioned the SGA act,that in Uk means the sale of goods act of
1979, It states an item sold must be "fit for purpose" in English law it
is
6 years in Scotland it is 5, the listersaid "i do not know about USA.
Well
that act is of course very important but although many Posts were
posted,
no
one mentioned that software is in fact sold underLicence I expect the
Usa
law is much the same but of courseI maybe wrong I know computers
i.e.hardware is but since Jaws was the subject can you confirm what I
imagine is the case regards dorothy


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Jaws 13 out next week

John Martyn
 

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
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Re: jaws any version

Dave Durber
 

Dorothy:

Soft products, such as books and computer software are covered by each respective countries Copyright laws, and not laws which pertain to other types of products, such as computer hardeware, clothing, household goods, etc.

Your friend should not get confused, between the different laws covering various types of products, as each country determines the standards and conditions under which different types of products are sold and warrantees for each type of product, are covered by the particular laws for the particular country concerned.

Your friend should read the license for each product to determine any conditions and rights, in this case the Freedom Scientific JAWS License Agreement, which can be found in the JAWS Help system.

If your friend needs any further clarrification as to the terms and conditions of the JAWS License Agreement, they should either contact the Freedom Scientific dealer in the country in which they live or, they should contact Freedom Scientific directly, either by email , by phone or by snail mail.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: jaws any version


take care of what exactly? surely if the sale of goods act does not apply,
then do we rely on fs to meet the standards we expect? if so many of the
problems I see on this list and it is a busy list will only be solved by the
client either putting pressure on fs with their wallet or living in hopes
the next version will solve all our problems wellunless you can say
differently I assume the laws relating to software is much the same
worldwide,although prices will differ I think from country to country as I
have read on this list. However I am sure you meant well kind regards
dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: jaws any version


dorthy, if we purchase from freedom scientific they would take care of
this. this is not our problem. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: jaws any version


Dear list I just want to be sure that Jaws and in fact all screen readers
are sold under licence I ask since an interesting topic arose on a list I
am
not a member of,a friend just selects any item he thinks is interesting
It
was pertaining to jaws however. One of the posts said he was not sure
about
USA, and mentioned the SGA act,that in Uk means the sale of goods act of
1979, It states an item sold must be "fit for purpose" in English law it
is
6 years in Scotland it is 5, the listersaid "i do not know about USA.
Well
that act is of course very important but although many Posts were posted,
no
one mentioned that software is in fact sold underLicence I expect the
Usa
law is much the same but of courseI maybe wrong I know computers
i.e.hardware is but since Jaws was the subject can you confirm what I
imagine is the case regards dorothy


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An Apology

Rick Miller
 

I think one of you listers used the People Search feature of Research It to find me this morning and I accidentally deleted the message. You know who you are, so you're welcome to search me again.

Rick Miller


Re: How to check windows version and hardware

Curtis Delzer
 

windows pause, and use jfw cursor. you'll find out.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:13 AM
Subject: How to check windows version and hardware


Hi all this is a very stupid question but I'm in a weir situation at
the moment. With jaws, how and where can you check what version of
windows a computer is running, weather it's 32 or 64 bit and what
hardware like processor and ram it has? I know what's in and on my pc
but I'm fixing someone elses pc and they can't tell me what's on it,
it's one of those people who just knows how to switch it on and type.
From back when I still had better eye sight, I remember there's some
place you can read it, think you just right clicked on computer then
properties but if I do that now it only takes me to a system rating,
Oh and I at least know it must have vista or 7 on it, but need to find
the exact version and sighted help is out of the question for now.
Thanks

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Re: jaws any version

Dorothy <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

thank you tom exactly right, I know Fs make the product of course, it so happened a topic just raged for 2 days and a night on a jaws only list this international list is but one. they were upset of course that they may have to buy jaws 13 to get problems in jaws 12 right but even more so that they had so little clout,many are getting it paid for under what is called access to work,does that make them happier? well it would seem not some and I am one are using our savings to buy jaws, the fact that in the UK there is a sole vendor should help,this means if you buy jaws or an fs product from for example rnib or one of the other outlets,they still have to buy it from the sole vendor in UK sightand sound technology, One of those posting this topic mentioned the sga act,that says any item bought must be "fit for purpose and I have explained that act. but in all the flurry no one seemed to remember that jaws is not covered,since it is sold under license. I expect ms is also to some extent ? many thanks Dorothy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: jaws any version


I think Dorothy is saying that according to several acts concerning the selling of goods and services the vendors products have to live up to the standard advertised and that jaws bug ridden product may be in violation.

Regards
Tom Bisset
----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September 8, 2011 10:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws any version

Yes, I'm not sure what you're on about Dorothy.

At 10:08 AM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
dorthy, if we purchase from freedom scientific they would take
care of this. this is not our problem. karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy"
<dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: jaws any version


Dear list I just want to be sure that Jaws and in fact all screen
readers
are sold under licence I ask since an interesting topic arose on
a list I am
not a member of,a friend just selects any item he thinks is
interesting It
was pertaining to jaws however. One of the posts said he was not
sure about
USA, and mentioned the SGA act,that in Uk means the sale of goods
act of
1979, It states an item sold must be "fit for purpose" in English
law it is
6 years in Scotland it is 5, the listersaid "i do not know about
USA. Well
that act is of course very important but although many Posts were
posted, no
one mentioned that software is in fact sold underLicence I
expect the Usa
law is much the same but of courseI maybe wrong I know computers
i.e.hardware is but since Jaws was the subject can you confirm
what I
imagine is the case regards dorothy


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Re: How to check windows version and hardware

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Wow! Not that I did not know this but so many ways to do things! The person
who originally wrote the question will have many helpful tips!
What a fantabo list this is.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:15 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to check windows version and hardware

Hi Nickus,

Another way to get to system properties is press the Windows key+ the pause
key, then route your Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, press the page up key, &
arrow down 1 line at a time to read the information. Hope this helps. Take
care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: 2.g.i
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: How to check windows version and hardware


Your welcome, glad it worked out for you.
the other ways are, go to the control panel then system,
this will give you OS, CPU & amount of ram.
or you can get software such as Lavalys EVEREST
this will tell you just about everything including serial numbers of
hard drives & so on,
great to keep in case you have a crash & need to put in a warranty claim.

How did you go fixing your friends system?
If I can help with that let me know.




At 07:15 PM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
>Awesome thanks a lot works like a bomb. Just for interest sake and so
>that I know in the future, what other ways are there to do this?
>
>On 9/8/11, 2.g.i <2.g.i.84972@...> wrote:
> > Hi, you can do the following.
> > press windows r to open the run box
> > type in cmd & press enter
> > this will open the command prompt.
> > once its open type in
> > systeminfo & press enter
> > this will give you what you are looking for along with a lot of other
> > details, how ever a lot of the output will be pushed up the screen &
> > the jaws cant read it, do the following
> > press alt space
> > this will open a menu bar, up arrow till you hear edit sub menu
> > right arrow once, & then down arrow till you hear select all, then
press
> > enter
> > this will highlight all of the output, press enter & this will add it
> > to the clipboard.
> > press windows r again to open the run box
> > now type in notepad
> > press enter & this will open a blank notepad document.
> > now press control v to paist all the output.
> > now you can go back to the top & read it.
> > you may need to maximise the notepad window.
> >
> > There are other ways to get the info you are looking for, but without
> > knowing what OS you are on & what style config the control panel view
> > is in, I think its better to say to go this way.
> >
> > If you need any help understanding any of the output I am happy to
help.
> >
> > Good luck
> > HTH
> > At 06:13 PM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
> >>Hi all this is a very stupid question but I'm in a weir situation at
> >>the moment. With jaws, how and where can you check what version of
> >>windows a computer is running, weather it's 32 or 64 bit and what
> >>hardware like processor and ram it has? I know what's in and on my pc
> >>but I'm fixing someone elses pc and they can't tell me what's on it,
> >>it's one of those people who just knows how to switch it on and type.
> >> From back when I still had better eye sight, I remember there's some
> >>place you can read it, think you just right clicked on computer then
> >>properties but if I do that now it only takes me to a system rating,
> >>Oh and I at least know it must have vista or 7 on it, but need to find
> >>the exact version and sighted help is out of the question for now.
> >>Thanks
> >>
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Re: website building

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

Dear Chris,

Thanks for the info/suggestions. I am currently checking into all the responses I've received and am appreciative you took the time to respond.

Thanks,
Sandy


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From: "Chris Smart" <@ve3rwj>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:20 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: website building

Sandy, if you want to worry about what the site says and how it says it, but not all the technical details, my advice would be to hire someone to take care of it for you. Not only that, but how the site looks may be as important as its content!

I'm currently working with Evratech Industries:
http://evratech.com/
on the design and implementation of my business's site. It's not done yet, but you can poke around a prototype at:
http://ctsmastering.com/home.php

They are very aware of accessibility issues, security concerns, graphics design and layout, etc. etc.

I've also had good luck with HostGator:
www.hostgator.com

Beware of free or very cheap hosting sites.

Chris


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Re: jaws any version

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

I think Dorothy is saying that according to several acts concerning the selling of goods and services the vendors products have to live up to the standard advertised and that jaws bug ridden product may be in violation.

Regards
Tom Bisset

----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September 8, 2011 10:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws any version

Yes, I'm not sure what you're on about Dorothy.

At 10:08 AM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
dorthy, if we purchase from freedom scientific they would take
care of this. this is not our problem. karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy"
<dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: jaws any version


Dear list I just want to be sure that Jaws and in fact all screen
readers
are sold under licence I ask since an interesting topic arose on
a list I am
not a member of,a friend just selects any item he thinks is
interesting It
was pertaining to jaws however. One of the posts said he was not
sure about
USA, and mentioned the SGA act,that in Uk means the sale of goods
act of
1979, It states an item sold must be "fit for purpose" in English
law it is
6 years in Scotland it is 5, the listersaid "i do not know about
USA. Well
that act is of course very important but although many Posts were
posted, no
one mentioned that software is in fact sold underLicence I
expect the Usa
law is much the same but of courseI maybe wrong I know computers
i.e.hardware is but since Jaws was the subject can you confirm
what I
imagine is the case regards dorothy


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Re: jaws any version

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Yes, I'm not sure what you're on about Dorothy.

At 10:08 AM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
dorthy, if we purchase from freedom scientific they would take care of this. this is not our problem. karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: jaws any version


Dear list I just want to be sure that Jaws and in fact all screen readers
are sold under licence I ask since an interesting topic arose on a list I am
not a member of,a friend just selects any item he thinks is interesting It
was pertaining to jaws however. One of the posts said he was not sure about
USA, and mentioned the SGA act,that in Uk means the sale of goods act of
1979, It states an item sold must be "fit for purpose" in English law it is
6 years in Scotland it is 5, the listersaid "i do not know about USA. Well
that act is of course very important but although many Posts were posted, no
one mentioned that software is in fact sold underLicence I expect the Usa
law is much the same but of courseI maybe wrong I know computers
i.e.hardware is but since Jaws was the subject can you confirm what I
imagine is the case regards dorothy


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Re: jaws any version

Dorothy <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

take care of what exactly? surely if the sale of goods act does not apply,
then do we rely on fs to meet the standards we expect? if so many of the
problems I see on this list and it is a busy list will only be solved by the
client either putting pressure on fs with their wallet or living in hopes
the next version will solve all our problems wellunless you can say
differently I assume the laws relating to software is much the same
worldwide,although prices will differ I think from country to country as I
have read on this list. However I am sure you meant well kind regards
dorothy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: jaws any version


dorthy, if we purchase from freedom scientific they would take care of
this. this is not our problem. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: jaws any version


Dear list I just want to be sure that Jaws and in fact all screen readers
are sold under licence I ask since an interesting topic arose on a list I
am
not a member of,a friend just selects any item he thinks is interesting
It
was pertaining to jaws however. One of the posts said he was not sure
about
USA, and mentioned the SGA act,that in Uk means the sale of goods act of
1979, It states an item sold must be "fit for purpose" in English law it
is
6 years in Scotland it is 5, the listersaid "i do not know about USA.
Well
that act is of course very important but although many Posts were posted,
no
one mentioned that software is in fact sold underLicence I expect the
Usa
law is much the same but of courseI maybe wrong I know computers
i.e.hardware is but since Jaws was the subject can you confirm what I
imagine is the case regards dorothy


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Re: jaws any version

Karen Hughes <khughes8@...>
 

dorthy, if we purchase from freedom scientific they would take care of this. this is not our problem. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: jaws any version


Dear list I just want to be sure that Jaws and in fact all screen readers
are sold under licence I ask since an interesting topic arose on a list I am
not a member of,a friend just selects any item he thinks is interesting It
was pertaining to jaws however. One of the posts said he was not sure about
USA, and mentioned the SGA act,that in Uk means the sale of goods act of
1979, It states an item sold must be "fit for purpose" in English law it is
6 years in Scotland it is 5, the listersaid "i do not know about USA. Well
that act is of course very important but although many Posts were posted, no
one mentioned that software is in fact sold underLicence I expect the Usa
law is much the same but of courseI maybe wrong I know computers
i.e.hardware is but since Jaws was the subject can you confirm what I
imagine is the case regards dorothy


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Re: Turning off auto forms mode

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

It's in there. Make sure you are in the program where auto forms mode is available when you go into Adjust Jaws Options.

At 07:32 AM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
Thanks for the instructions, but I didn't find anything about turning off
forms mode there.

Cindy


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jaws any version

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Dear list I just want to be sure that Jaws and in fact all screen readers
are sold under licence I ask since an interesting topic arose on a list I am
not a member of,a friend just selects any item he thinks is interesting It
was pertaining to jaws however. One of the posts said he was not sure about
USA, and mentioned the SGA act,that in Uk means the sale of goods act of
1979, It states an item sold must be "fit for purpose" in English law it is
6 years in Scotland it is 5, the listersaid "i do not know about USA. Well
that act is of course very important but although many Posts were posted, no
one mentioned that software is in fact sold underLicence I expect the Usa
law is much the same but of courseI maybe wrong I know computers
i.e.hardware is but since Jaws was the subject can you confirm what I
imagine is the case regards dorothy