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Re: installing jfw without burning a key
Adrian Spratt
Kimsan,
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This isn't a complete answer, but keep these points in mind. List members have said you shouldn't install a version of JAWS that is earlier than one you have on your system. In the event that you want to, it would seem logical to uninstall the higher version, then start installing with the lower one, followed by the higher again. I think you realize that installing a later version of JAWS on a system that has an earlier version won't affect your authorization count. So the question is whether you lose an authorization when you uninstall a later version in order to add an earlier one and reinstall the later one. It's now Monday, so you could call FS tech support, or maybe even better, their authorization department for the procedure. As I recall, both departments are at the same phone number, but each has its own extension.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 12:10 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key I don't even have jaws 12 installed. All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes. I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left. Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no more activations left on the FSActivate web site? IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13. If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12 should then run normally. If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key will not help. So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you can surmise. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30 Subject: installing jfw without burning a key I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 06/9279e1ee/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: installing jfw without burning a key
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
I don't even have jaws 12 installed.
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All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes. I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left. Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no more activations left on the FSActivate web site? IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13. If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12 should then run normally. If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key will not help. So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you can surmise. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30 Subject: installing jfw without burning a key I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 06/9279e1ee/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: help with punctuation
Dave...
Dante - OE is Outlook Express.
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Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 19:44 Subject: RE: help with punctuation What does OE stand for, does anybody know? Dondi -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: help with punctuation Phyllis, From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 andearlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an earlier post of mine. Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager. Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice adjustment and tab to punctuation. The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires creating a voice profile. Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time. Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes: I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe, as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none, unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile, there is a selection, Punctuation none. So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it would be slower than my default voice. In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and would have a slower reading rate. After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE. It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set in the JAWS profile. ** Punctuation Levels -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: help with punctuation Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation. I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a space! Help? When boundaries are present, there is fear. When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist. - James A. Ray Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties Simon and Sarah catlady1949@charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3998 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: installing jfw without burning a key
Dave...
Kimsan,
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So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no more activations left on the FSActivate web site? IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13. If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12 should then run normally. If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key will not help. So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you can surmise. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30 Subject: installing jfw without burning a key I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20111106/9279e1ee/attachment.html>; _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: help with punctuation
Dondi
What does OE stand for, does anybody know?
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Dondi
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: help with punctuation Phyllis, From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 andearlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an earlier post of mine. Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager. Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice adjustment and tab to punctuation. The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires creating a voice profile. Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time. Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes: I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe, as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none, unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile, there is a selection, Punctuation none. So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it would be slower than my default voice. In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and would have a slower reading rate. After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE. It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set in the JAWS profile. ** Punctuation Levels -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: help with punctuation Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation. I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a space! Help? When boundaries are present, there is fear. When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist. - James A. Ray Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties Simon and Sarah catlady1949@charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3998 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Word Press
Cliff Self
I asked the same question and got no answer, so I suspect the answer is no. When searching for scripts I found some tutorials on managing WordPress widgits with Jaws. You can probably find them by searching for those terms.
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However, the program is extremely graphical. I've had to ask my sighted wife to manage my website for me. Cliff
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From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:03 PM Subject: Word Press Hi JAWS Users
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Re: Email alert
Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
Hi Roger,
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If you are referring to where all the default sounds are kept, go to the following; C:\WINDOWS\Media This is for both XP & Windows7. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike
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From: Roger White To: JFW@lists.the-jdh.com Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 1:41 PM Subject: Email alert I'm trying to setup separate sounds for five email accounts. I am using Thunderbird. Does anyone know where to find sounds? Roger _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20111106/c0fda048/attachment.html>;
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installing jfw without burning a key
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without
burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20111106/9279e1ee/attachment.html>;
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Email alert
Roger White
I'm trying to setup separate sounds for five email accounts. I am using Thunderbird. Does anyone know where to find sounds?
Roger
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Re: help with punctuation
Dean Martineau <dean@...>
Indeed, I did not test rigorously enough. Insert+V doesn't hold the
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setting. Dean
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:20 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: help with punctuation Dean, While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation setting would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It didn't. Other listers and I have found the same thing in the past, hence the convoluted ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar punctuation setup. If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it works for you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly wish it did. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: help with punctuation In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in effect the next and subsequent times you run the program. Dean -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: help with punctuation Phyllis, From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 andearlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an earlier post of mine. Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager. Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice adjustment and tab to punctuation. The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires creating a voice profile. Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time. Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes: I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe, as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none, unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile, there is a selection, Punctuation none. So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it would be slower than my default voice. In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and would have a slower reading rate. After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE. It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set in the JAWS profile. ** Punctuation Levels -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: help with punctuation Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation. I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a space! Help? When boundaries are present, there is fear. When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist. - James A. Ray Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties Simon and Sarah catlady1949@charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3998 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: help with punctuation
Adrian Spratt
Yes, Ann, but only for all applications. You'd need to set up a voice
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profile for use of a particular punctuation setting with a specific application.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:13 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: help with punctuation In the JAWS voices menu--insert-j, alt-down arrow to voices--you can change punctuation, ... and it sticks! At 08:19 AM 11/6/2011, you wrote: Dean,punctuation setup. wish it did. time to time. Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, andFor OE. It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: some useful information;
David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Hello there;
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To turn off the UAC in windows7 do the following; 1, go to the start menu edit box, Type in UAC, Then you can enter on the user account control; Now, you can set it to zero, You will then be prompted to restart computer, say yes, Once computer has restarted UAC is not on, Again, I say, once your finished a task, I would perform the same steps, and reactivate the UAC, I believe the default is 66%, I set mine to 100, Note, I am not saying you set to 100, It's just my preference. Have a good day.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:17 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: some useful information; How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: some useful information; User Access Control, Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically needing an administrator rights account to use their personal computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always, and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't quite caught up to this new reality. On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote: What is the UAC? thankswe went to the activation over the internet. -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3999 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: some useful information;
Soronel Haetir
Go to control panel -> User Accounts, on the window that comes up
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there is a "Change User Access Control settings" link. I would, however, highly recommend that you only disable UAC for tasks that absolutely require it, like updating the jaws authorization. After performing whatever incompatible task is complete I would strongly urge that you re-enable UAC.
On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info --
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Re: help with punctuation
Ann Byrne
In the JAWS voices menu--insert-j, alt-down arrow to voices--you can change punctuation, ... and it sticks!
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At 08:19 AM 11/6/2011, you wrote:
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Re: help with punctuation
Adrian Spratt
Dean,
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While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation setting would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It didn't. Other listers and I have found the same thing in the past, hence the convoluted ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar punctuation setup. If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it works for you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly wish it did.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: help with punctuation In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in effect the next and subsequent times you run the program. Dean -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: help with punctuation Phyllis, From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 andearlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an earlier post of mine. Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager. Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice adjustment and tab to punctuation. The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires creating a voice profile. Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time. Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes: I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe, as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none, unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile, there is a selection, Punctuation none. So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it would be slower than my default voice. In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and would have a slower reading rate. After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE. It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set in the JAWS profile. ** Punctuation Levels -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: help with punctuation Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation. I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a space! Help? When boundaries are present, there is fear. When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist. - James A. Ray Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties Simon and Sarah catlady1949@charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3998 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: help with punctuation
Phyllis Stevens <catlady1949@...>
Thanks dean! Also! I am having trouble with numbers big time! I don't want to hear it's 1 1 colon 0 6 A M--- I want eleven o six A M. Also I am hearing in RS games Monopoly that I have 3 2 7 4 7 dollars and I rolled a 2, six. Yikes! I just hate this! One would think that if you merged settings with a version you had tweaked, it would make the current version work right! One doesn't have a global option any more, least I couldn't find one!
When boundaries are present, there is fear. When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist. - James A. Ray Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties Simon and Sarah catlady1949@charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3998 - Release Date: 11/05/11
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Re: help with punctuation
Dean Martineau <dean@...>
In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
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adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in effect the next and subsequent times you run the program. Dean
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: help with punctuation Phyllis, From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 andearlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an earlier post of mine. Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager. Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice adjustment and tab to punctuation. The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires creating a voice profile. Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time. Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes: I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe, as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none, unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile, there is a selection, Punctuation none. So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it would be slower than my default voice. In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and would have a slower reading rate. After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE. It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set in the JAWS profile. ** Punctuation Levels -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: help with punctuation Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation. I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a space! Help? When boundaries are present, there is fear. When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist. - James A. Ray Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties Simon and Sarah catlady1949@charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3998 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: some useful information;
Drew Hunthausen
Thanks so so much!
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:39 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: some useful information; Turning off the UAC in win seven do the following. Windows key for the start menu, in the search field type in user accounts and press enter on the result user accounts. In the following screen, tab until you hear change user account control settings and press enter. Now tab to the notification level slider. It will be set to 66 by default, so use your down arrow key to 0. After doing that tab to ok and you are done. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:12 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: some useful information; Drew, Not sure, but it is possible. Go to a Windows 7 list or a windows for blind list and ask; I'm sure someone there will be able to give you an answer. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 19:17 Subject: RE: some useful information; How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: some useful information; User Access Control, Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically needing an administrator rights account to use their personal computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always, and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't quite caught up to this new reality. On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote: What is the UAC? thankswe went to the activation over the internet. -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3999 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3999 - Release Date: 11/05/11
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Re: some useful information;
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
Turning off the UAC in win seven do the following.
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Windows key for the start menu, in the search field type in user accounts and press enter on the result user accounts. In the following screen, tab until you hear change user account control settings and press enter. Now tab to the notification level slider. It will be set to 66 by default, so use your down arrow key to 0. After doing that tab to ok and you are done.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:12 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: some useful information; Drew, Not sure, but it is possible. Go to a Windows 7 list or a windows for blind list and ask; I'm sure someone there will be able to give you an answer. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 19:17 Subject: RE: some useful information; How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: some useful information; User Access Control, Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically needing an administrator rights account to use their personal computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always, and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't quite caught up to this new reality. On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote: What is the UAC? thankswe went to the activation over the internet. -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3999 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: some useful information;
Dave...
Drew,
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Not sure, but it is possible. Go to a Windows 7 list or a windows for blind list and ask; I'm sure someone there will be able to give you an answer. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen@gmail.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 19:17 Subject: RE: some useful information; How do you turn this off in win 7? Thanks so much for the info -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: some useful information; User Access Control, Microsoft added it to windows starting with Vista then toned it down a little with windows 7. It helps solve the problem of users basically needing an administrator rights account to use their personal computers but that providing so much access it leaves them open to numerous attack vectors. With UAC enabled an administrator account only has elevated permissions at discrete times rather than always, and the user is asked whether certain programs should be allowed to perform system modifying actions. Unfortunately jaws still hasn't quite caught up to this new reality. On 11/5/11, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote: What is the UAC? thankswe went to the activation over the internet. -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3999 - Release Date: 11/05/11 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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