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Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

JM Casey
 

The last time I took a stab, I was kind of frustrated that the menus do not automatically read with my JFW version at least (2018) and you have to use the JAWS cursor if you want to go through choices. If you know how many times to arrow or if you know the keyboard shortcuts, that’s no problem really, but I was new to the programme and didn’t know any of that. The menus did read automatically in NVDA as I remember. And maybe newer JAWS VERSIONS WORK MORE RESPONSIVELY WITH Libre.

 

If not…

You can use Openoffice. It is not updated with the frequency that Libre is, but it is very similar, and as far as I know is not actually *dead*. The Writer appears to work quite well with JAWS.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 19, 2020 7:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

 

There are a whole set of tutorials on using Libre Office Writer on the following link.

They assume using NVDA but I  imagine most if not all of it will be transferable to Jaws also.

http://www.talking-computers.org.uk/jimonlibreoffice.html

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 19 March 2020 22:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

 

Yes, Jaws works very well with jart and liberal office as well. I like using jart a lot, have a great day.

 

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 6:21 PM ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi,


Does anyone know if Jaws 2020 works with alternate word processors like
Jarte or OpenOffice or Libre Office? I'm looking for alternate to MS Word.


Thanks,

~Ann



Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

David Griffith
 

The fix for this problem is to bring up the context menu – go to Junk and select the never block option. This adds the address to your safe senders list and should allow the download of images and prevent the annoying message.

 

David Griffith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: 19 March 2020 23:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hi all,

 

In addition to what was mentioned, while arrowing up and down in Outlook, JAWS says something like ‘if the message is not displayed correctly, click…’. Any solution appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 6:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Brian, I am having the same problem as Stan. Went through the steps and got back the normal view. Then, and I’m not sure what happened, it reverted back to being arranged by date.

I will go back and go through the steps again. And please don’t snark at me, I do not need it today or any other, for that matter. Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:

Excuse me

Sorry, but it wasn't me who ignored content posted hours before, than fixed the issue, then asking for it again.  That's on you.  Read through the topics BEFORE replying.

It's just common netiquette.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

David Griffith
 

There are a whole set of tutorials on using Libre Office Writer on the following link.

They assume using NVDA but I  imagine most if not all of it will be transferable to Jaws also.

http://www.talking-computers.org.uk/jimonlibreoffice.html

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 19 March 2020 22:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

 

Yes, Jaws works very well with jart and liberal office as well. I like using jart a lot, have a great day.

 

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 6:21 PM ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi,


Does anyone know if Jaws 2020 works with alternate word processors like
Jarte or OpenOffice or Libre Office? I'm looking for alternate to MS Word.


Thanks,

~Ann



Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

Richard Turner
 

If you have a smart phone, the Kindle app works fine with either Talkback on Android, or VoiceOver on an iPhone.
Or, search for Accessible Kindle for PC, and install it.
You will need to login with your Amazon account, or create one.
Sighted assistance is helpful for that login screen, as it does not read right with JAWS.
HTH,



Richard
"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:



Hi list,

 

Someone sent me some Kindle books, but I can’t open them, probably because Kindle is not installed on my PC. I would appreciate if you could instruct me ho to download  and how to use it with JAWS 19.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

Gezim Rexha
 

Hi list,

 

Someone sent me some Kindle books, but I can’t open them, probably because Kindle is not installed on my PC. I would appreciate if you could instruct me ho to download  and how to use it with JAWS 19.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Gezim Rexha
 

Hi all,

 

In addition to what was mentioned, while arrowing up and down in Outlook, JAWS says something like ‘if the message is not displayed correctly, click…’. Any solution appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 6:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Brian, I am having the same problem as Stan. Went through the steps and got back the normal view. Then, and I’m not sure what happened, it reverted back to being arranged by date.

I will go back and go through the steps again. And please don’t snark at me, I do not need it today or any other, for that matter. Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:

Excuse me

Sorry, but it wasn't me who ignored content posted hours before, than fixed the issue, then asking for it again.  That's on you.  Read through the topics BEFORE replying.

It's just common netiquette.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

David Moore
 

Yes, Jaws works very well with jart and liberal office as well. I like using jart a lot, have a great day.


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 6:21 PM ann <tate886@...> wrote:
Hi,


Does anyone know if Jaws 2020 works with alternate word processors like
Jarte or OpenOffice or Libre Office? I'm looking for alternate to MS Word.


Thanks,

~Ann




Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

 

I can't speak to accessibility, but if you want something to play with to determine if it's accessible, definitely take a look at SoftMaker FreeOffice.

It exists in versions for Windows, Mac, and Linux.  It also has a look and feel that's as close to MS-Office as I've ever seen.  I have not, as yet, used it with any of my blind or visually-impaired clients.  If you do experiment with it please do report back with regard to accessibility or the lack thereof.

--

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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

 

My understanding is it will work with all three that you mention.  I know of JAWS users using each and every one of those products.  Some NVDA users, too.
--

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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Use Google docs. It's nice and accessible.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of ann <tate886@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 11:21:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Finding Alternates to MS Word
 
Hi,


Does anyone know if Jaws 2020 works with alternate word processors like
Jarte or OpenOffice or Libre Office? I'm looking for alternate to MS Word.


Thanks,

~Ann




Re: Finding Alternates to MS Word

David Goldfield
 

Ann,

JAWS does indeed work with the programs which you mentioned.

Jarte is, essentially, a Wordpad-like program with a spell checker, along with some additional features. For an additional $20 or so you can upgrade to Jarte Plus, which offers even more features. It can detect the presence of a screen reader and enables what it calls screen reader mode, adding even more accessibility to the program. It is not as full-featured as Word but it may contain enough features which will do what you need.

Libreoffice and Openoffice are much more feature-rich and they do work with JAWS. However, the spell checker, while technically accessible, may not be quite as "speech friendly" as what you have with Word. I have also not tested features such as its equivalent of track changes to see how much audible feedback you receive, assuming that this feature is even included. However, it still may be accessible enough to meet your needs.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/19/2020 6:21 PM, ann wrote:
Hi,


Does anyone know if Jaws 2020 works with alternate word processors like Jarte or OpenOffice or Libre Office? I'm looking for alternate to MS Word.


Thanks,

~Ann


Finding Alternates to MS Word

ann
 

Hi,


Does anyone know if Jaws 2020 works with alternate word processors like Jarte or OpenOffice or Libre Office? I'm looking for alternate to MS Word.


Thanks,

~Ann

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 01:49 PM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
I will go back and go through the steps again.
Which is exactly what you should do.

I also don't need any lectures about snark, as what I said was not snark.  I am sick and tired of the same question, which has already been answered in the very same topic, being asked again and again and again hours after the initial answers have been given.   It's just plain rude to those who have taken the time and effort to provide said answers.  I make no apology whatsoever for pointing this out.  Basic netiquette dictates that you should read through a topic before posting to it.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Re: last update version #

Stan Holdeman
 

Thanks.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 4:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: last update version #

 

It is the current update.

It seems they have begun releasing updates monthly until the next version comes out, and in fact, they released some updates to prior versions even after 2020 was released.

 

So, probably not the last update to 2020.

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: last update version #

 

Friends: After a confusing and seemingly faulty experience with the installation of the last update, I presently have installed version j2020.2003.13.ilm.

 

Is this really the last update of J2020?

 

Thank you. Stan

 

Re: last update version #

Richard Turner
 

It is the current update.

It seems they have begun releasing updates monthly until the next version comes out, and in fact, they released some updates to prior versions even after 2020 was released.

 

So, probably not the last update to 2020.

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: last update version #

 

Friends: After a confusing and seemingly faulty experience with the installation of the last update, I presently have installed version j2020.2003.13.ilm.

 

Is this really the last update of J2020?

 

Thank you. Stan

 

Re: last update version #

Lino Morales
 

 

Stan their should be more updates to come throughout the year as long as Vispero supports JAWS 2020.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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From: Stan Holdeman
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 4:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: last update version #

 

Friends: After a confusing and seemingly faulty experience with the installation of the last update, I presently have installed version j2020.2003.13.ilm.

 

Is this really the last update of J2020?

 

Thank you. Stan

 

 

last update version #

Stan Holdeman
 

Friends: After a confusing and seemingly faulty experience with the installation of the last update, I presently have installed version j2020.2003.13.ilm.

 

Is this really the last update of J2020?

 

Thank you. Stan

 

Re: Having two accounts in Windows

Van Lant, Robin
 

Thank you.  I’ll give it a try tonight. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Having two accounts in Windows

 

Yes, quite easy to do, I have a login on our home laptop for myself and my wife. Jaws is set to come on at the logon, but once my wife logs in Jaws does not start, she has her own folders like Documents, Pictures, Music etc., of course her own Desktop and so on. Much better if you set up your daughter with her own login.

You might want to ask her school if she has her own account there, in Settings > Accounts you have an option for “Access Work or School”, but for that she would have to have I think an account with her school.

If not just go to Settings > Accounts and go to “Email and Accounts”, tab once to “Add Account” and set it up.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:25 AM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Having two accounts in Windows

 

Hi,

With my kids out of school and teachers trying online learning, my sighted 9 year old needs to use my personal laptop.  I suppose I could give her my Windows password, but I’m wondering if it’s better to giver her own user profile so it will turn JAWS off for her and maybe even use a normal windows color scheme and simpler desktop with just what she needs.  This is uncharted territory for me.  Is this easy to set up?  Will it be easy for me to switch profiles at the login screen if JAWS is set to run at login?  Any issues I should be aware of in sharing my laptop with a sighted user?

 

Windows 1909, Office 2016 and JAWS 2020

 

Thanks.

Robin

 

 

 

 

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Re: zoom

Van Lant, Robin
 

I haven’t used the Zoom platform with JAWS yet, but I find the iPhone app for Zoom really easy to use thus far, as long as you have an earpiece with microphone so that people don’t hear voicover talking.  If I were doing a class with Zoom, I might run Zoom from my phone, leaving my laptop open for taking notes.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom

 

I copied the info and pasted it after the link to the Zoom support page on hotkeys:

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205683899-Hot-Keys-and-Keyboard-Shortcuts-for-Zoom?mobile_site=true 

 

 

Windows Icon Windows

You can view and edit keyboard shortcuts in your Accessibility settings.

1.       Log in to your Zoom desktop client.

2.       Click your profile picture then click Settings.
Settings Option Under Profile Picture

3.       Click Keyboard Shortcuts.

4.       The keyboard shortcuts will appear.

Editing Shortcuts

You can edit a shortcut by clicking on the shortcut and then pressing the shortcut key that you would like to use. 

Some of the shortcuts can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check the option next to the shortcut. 

Available Keyboard Shortcuts

·         F6: Navigate among Zoom popup windows.

·         Ctrl+Alt+Shift: Move focus to Zoom's meeting controls

·         PageUp: View previous 25 video stream in gallery view

·         PageDown: View next 25 video stream in gallery view

·         Alt: Turn on/off the option Always show meeting control toolbar in Accessibility Settings

·         Alt+F1: Switch to active speaker view in video meeting

·         Alt+F2: Switch to gallery video view in video meeting

·         Alt+F4: Close the current window

·         Alt+V: Start/Stop Video

·         Alt+A: Mute/unmute audio

·         Alt+M: Mute/unmute audio for everyone except host Note: For the meeting host only

·         Alt+S: Launch share screen window and stop screen share Note: Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus

·         Alt+Shift+S: Start/stop new screen share Note: Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus

·         Alt+T: Pause or resume screen share Note: Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus

·         Alt+R: Start/stop local recording

·         Alt+C: Start/stop cloud recording

·         Alt+P: Pause or resume recording

·         Alt+N: Switch camera

·         Alt+F: Enter or exit full screen

·         Alt+H: Display/hide In-Meeting Chat panel

·         Alt+U:Display/hide Participants panel

·         Alt+I: Open Invite window

·         Alt+Y: Raise/lower hand

·         Alt+Shift+R: Gain Remote Control

·         Alt+Shift+G: Stop Remote Control

·         Ctrl+2: Read active speaker name

·         Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H: Show/Hide floating meeting controls

·         Alt+Shift+T: Screenshot

·         Switch to Portrait/Landscape View: Alt+L

·         Ctrl+W: Close current chat session

·         Ctrl+Up: Go to previous chat

·         Ctrl+Down: Go to next chat

·         Ctrl+T: Jump to chat with someone

·         Ctrl+F: Search

·         Ctrl+Tab: Move to the next tab (right)

·         Ctrl+Shift+Tab: Move to the previous tab (left)

 

 



Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

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On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Judy <bunchkinbear@...> wrote:



Hi, any tips or pointers on using Zoom would be greatly appreciated. I was able to set up an account, but had some problems with settings and muting/unmuting etc. Need to learn this fast as a class I’m in is going online for discussions. Using Jaws 2019 and windows 10. Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby

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Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Norma A. Boge
 

Brian, I am having the same problem as Stan. Went through the steps and got back the normal view. Then, and I’m not sure what happened, it reverted back to being arranged by date.

I will go back and go through the steps again. And please don’t snark at me, I do not need it today or any other, for that matter. Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Stan Bobbitt wrote:

Excuse me

Sorry, but it wasn't me who ignored content posted hours before, than fixed the issue, then asking for it again.  That's on you.  Read through the topics BEFORE replying.

It's just common netiquette.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman