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Re: Webex
Sean Murphy
Firstly, scrips are not required for WebEx. You need to understand the screen layout which is a big Barrier for some uses. On the left-hand side of the screen is all the controls which open up chat, polls, attendees etc. This content is contained on the left side on the screen and you access it by using f6 . CTRL Tab switches between the attendees, chats, etc. F6 takes you back to the main controls. Tab goes between all the different options. You have to press the chat button to make the available chats visible on the right-hand side. on the Cisco website there is a bunch of shortcut keys available for WebEx. I did not know what they all are. My experience is the part
On 4 Aug 2020, at 9:43 am, Mark Fisher <fishsilv@...> wrote:
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Re: How to delete Silenzio folder in C drive
netbat66
is the file needed? maybe it is still in the recycle bin and can be restored.
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From: Michael Munn Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 8:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: How to delete Silenzio folder in C drive Hi all, this is Michael. do any of you kno{ how to delete Silenzio folder from the C drive? I accidentally deleted the language folder in Silenzio located in C drive and and everytime when I turn on my computer, Jaws usually say that Error File C:\Program Files (x86)\Silenzio\languages\English.txt not graphic 398 found. Ok This is why I want to delete this folder and everytime I'm trying to delete it says that this folder is in use. Hope to hear from you soon. Best regards Michael Munn
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Re: How to delete Silenzio folder in C drive
Chris Hill
Reinstall the program, or uninstall it. Deleting the folder would just give you a different error.
On 8/4/2020 10:27, Michael Munn wrote:
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Re: How to delete Silenzio folder in C drive
Casey
Hi maybe disable Jaws and try using narrator and see if that works. Or set jaws to not start up like you have it now. Then reload your computer and bring up narrator and try it that
way. On 8/4/2020 10:27 AM, Michael Munn
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How to delete Silenzio folder in C drive
Michael Munn
Hi all, this is Michael. do any of you kno{ how to delete Silenzio folder from the C drive? I accidentally deleted the language folder in Silenzio located in C drive and and everytime when I turn on my computer, Jaws usually say that Error File C:\Program Files (x86)\Silenzio\languages\English.txt not graphic 398 found.Ok This is why I want to delete this folder and everytime I'm trying to delete it says that this folder is in use. Hope to hear from you soon. Best regards Michael Munn
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Re: Webex
Mark Fisher
Hi, would love to talk direct as our organisation uses WebEx and whilst I've already highlighted a couple of things to their accessibility team i.e. no keystroke for turning video on and off in WebEx Meetings, or raise your hand, I'd be keen to provide some other direct feedback. Mark Fisher Principal - HR Systems Water Corporation
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Re: PictureSmart Being Blocked By Corporate Firewall
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 05:45 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
My philosophy is always help people understand the dilemma you are in and see if they can agree to a work around before raising a stink about something.- On that we're in complete agreement. The old adage (who's intent I understand, even if my reaction to the literal is, "Ewwwwwwww!"), "You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar," applies. I have been put in the position where I had to raise a very big stink, and my reputation for being willing to work with anyone for a long while, but if you push me past those limits there will be hell to pay, has served me well in work and in life. I was very glad I learned the lesson to insist, and not nicely, but absolutely firmly, when you are right because it has proven pivotal in advocating for the care of my Mom, who is now in the late stages of dementia. The managers of her facility, with whom I have a cordial relationship, decided to push me too far, once. After a call to the Vice President of the organization promptly afterward, that apology came, along with the action I required, in less than two hours. If you "go thermonuclear" well before that would be necessary all you get is a bad reputation. Always start out with cooperation and kindness, even going farther along that road than you might like, but if you don't get the result that you know is right, be prepared to fight, swiftly and ferociously if necessary. No one can take advantage of you. You allow it. You teach people how to treat you. ~ Dawn Bugni No one can take advantage of you without your permission. ~ Ann Landers -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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jaws 2019 with 3 brailledisplays
William Windels
Hello,
I don’t understand where the key-assignments for different brailledisplays are stored.
Situation: My old computer had key-assignements in jaws 2019 for a focus2, 80 cells, a focus5 80 cells display and a handytech braille star 80.
When starting with my new computer, I exported all my settings from jaws2019 into a .sbak-file from my old computer and I imported it with success in my new computer.
On the new computer, it seems that not all the types of displays had the same key-assignements like on the old computer. I tought there is only one default.jkm file for all displays , it should be stored there and for shore, it should be in the .sbak-file? But this works probably on another way?
What is needed to have all my key-assignements back like on my old computer? All hints are very welcome.
Kind regards,
William Windels
Incident Manager SWF 02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdagnamiddag)
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Re: PictureSmart Being Blocked By Corporate Firewall
Abraham Sweiss
In my case, I have direct access to the operations team that manages the systems for me. So all I need to do is email them. You may want to develop a relationship with those individuals at your company to help streamline things. Thanks,abraham
On Aug 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:
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Re: PictureSmart Being Blocked By Corporate Firewall
Van Lant, Robin
Brian, you are right. I pulled in a number of people to get clearance to just call my local tech guy to help when I needed admin rights for something JAWS related. This was a lot easier when in the office, as I could just pop over to his desk with my laptop and have him type in his credentials. Feels like a much bigger to do if I have to set up a remote connection now, so I just haven’t dealt with it as of late. My philosophy is always help people understand the dilemma you are in and see if they can agree to a work around before raising a stink about something. In my case, I was trying to do the right think for my local guy by calling the helpdesk and getting them to log a ticket to engage the local guy. That’s what they want all other employees to do, but this was so difficult with a help desk that had no idea what JAWS is, so I just asked the manager of that team how I could do it in a more effective way. Part of it is not being afraid to reach out to people higher up in an organization and just politely say that you are trying to do the right thing and figure out a better process. I’ve also found out who our ADA compliance offers is within HR and will copy her on stuff so I have her backing.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: PictureSmart Being Blocked By Corporate Firewall
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 02:04 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Webex
Marty Hutchings
I finally convinced a group I’m in to switch to Zoom, because although
WebEx was very rudementally accessible, Zoom is far better. I was able to
get logged in and hear and talk to other meeting participants with WebEx, but I
was not able to access the chat or the participant list. I was not able to
find any scripts for JAWS for WebEx. I’m pretty sure that scripts could be
developed for WebEx. I also had a problem getting my mic to work with
WebEx and the audio settings test function would work for my speakers, but not
my microphone. I ended up switching my microphone to the on board sound
card from my SB Live card that worked fine with Zoom.
Love in
Christ
Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
So
I have used Zoom with jaws and am fairly proficient with it but I really haven't
used WebEx at all. My wife got a job with Cisco a few months ago and between the
stories about lack of security on Zoom a few months ago and Cisco owning WebEx I
hear plenty of Zoom evil because she hears plenty of WebEx perfect Zoom bad
conversations and relays them to me. Anyway we got to talking about and I really didn't know how accessible WebEx was. I did a quick Google search, when I did it i didn't have the time to dig deeply, and I found that while there was a little bit of information on WebEx Teams there wasn't much on using WebEx for meetings ETC. so I thought I would get the experiences on here and maybe see if she would try to pass them on. How accessible is WebEx? What problems do you have with it, what do you like about it, what changes could you suggest, is there anything else I should know? Is there a list of jaws scripts that help when using Webex? I'll probably post the same question on the NVDA list although come to think about it I have always used Zoom with JAWS and don't even know how well it works with NVDA.
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Webex
Phillip Gross
So I have used Zoom with jaws and am fairly proficient with it but I really haven't used Webex at all. My wife got a job with Cisco a few months ago and between the stories about lack of security on Zoom a few months ago and Cisco owning Webex I hear plenty of Zoom evil because she hears plenty of Webex perfect Zoom bad conversations and relays them to me.
Anyway we got to talking about and I really didn't know how accessible Webex was. I did a quick google search, when I did it i didn't have the time to dig deeply, and I found that while there was a little bit of information on Webex Teams there wasn't much on using Webex for meetings ETC. so I thought I would get the experiences on here and maybe see if she would try to pass them on. How accessible is Webex? What problems do you have with it, what do you like about it, what changes could you suggest, is there anything else I should know? Is there a list of jaws scripts that help when using Webex? I'll probably post the same question on the NVDA list although come to think about it I have always used Zoom with JAWS and don't even know how well it works with NVDA.
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Announcement Only: Groups.io Scheduled Outage Tonight
Groups.io will be down for maintenance this evening, Monday, August 3rd, starting at 11 PM Pacific Time, (6 AM Tuesday 8/4/2020 UTC), for up to two hours.
Which means that nothing will be showing up new during that time, and any messages sent will remain in the send queue on the Groups.io servers until the maintenance is over. Just thought you all might like to know, and I saw nothing in my own traffic for owners about this, just a notice posted on the web interface. If the forum owner wants to immediately lock this topic, be my guest. I just didn't want folks to think that if they're not seeing anything for several hours that anything was wrong. Also, sorry for the duplicate, as I accidentally hit "Send" before finishing the last sentence above. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: PictureSmart Being Blocked By Corporate Firewall
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 02:04 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
I don’t have admin privileges to make some setting change for it to fully install.- Another battle I've had to engage in for multiple users of assistive technology (AT) of all sorts. AT tends to need to update on a relatively frequent basis, and will most often do so on its own, but that feature is useless if the end-user cannot rely on it. On some occasions, I have managed to get IT to create a special admin account where the login to same is tracked that allows the user to do the update when it comes along, and on others have made the IT department have a "drop everything now" policy (informal, of course) where the user could call with regard to an AT update and it would go to the top of the list. These things are generally so quick and easy that if IT will not change its formal policies they are often willing to be a lot more flexible about providing direct service when needed. It's not like it's every other day, either, but updates to AT usually aren't "purely decorative" in nature. And the excuse, "Well, you could do your job before without {insert new feature that would make you so much faster and more efficient}," generally doesn't fly if your boss and, if needed, HR are behind you. Reasonable accommodations are just that, and when a technology pops up that makes work life "more reasonable" and poses no credible security threat or other impediment (e.g., lack of HIPAA compliance), at least here in the USA providing same is legally obligatory. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: PictureSmart Being Blocked By Corporate Firewall
Van Lant, Robin
I work for a large US bank and we have tight firewalls. Our firewall settings have prevented the FTP connections needed for me to do the standard updates and for FS reader to download books. I reached out to our firewall management team and they set up a session where I walked through what I was trying to do with JAWS and they watched the internet traffic to see the errors. I know they were putting in a request for an exemption on the FS addresses. I just tried again and now I can get FS Reader to download a book, but now ran into the issue that I don’t have admin privileges to make some setting change for it to fully install. I havent’ tried Picture Smart to understand what the issue is there. FS support is the one who helped me understand that FS Reader was trying to make an FTP connection.
So, I recommend seeing if your firewall management team would be willing to do as I did and watch while you try to engage Picture Smart and such so they can see what the hiccup is and put in a request for the adjustment.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mark Fisher
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 5:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: PictureSmart Being Blocked By Corporate Firewall
Hi All. thanks for the various replies. I'm actually based in Western Australia - and do understand some of the privacy implicaitons fo GDPR etc - however I don't believe that will be an issue for me. So from what I here, only whitelisting
all outgoing requests is the only answer. I'm assuming the technical people can trace those through the back end so we'll give that a go. Might need to flag that with FS - I would doubt I'm the only person who's come across this issue. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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New Book Available on Browsing the Web with Screen Reader Programs
David Kingsbury
Hi all,
Below is the description of a book I just wrote. It can be purchased for $20 at: https://carroll.org/product/when-one-web-browser-is-not-enough/
When One Web Browser Is Not Enough: A Guide for Windows Screen Reader UsersIn just the last few years, more web browsers have become accessible, and screen reader users can greatly benefit by becoming familiar with multiple browsers. Websites are complex animals. When things go wrong with one browser, your first line of defense is often to switch browsers. Each browser has strengths and weaknesses, so you can pick and choose features among them to get the best browsing experience. And once you are comfortable with one browser, it’s not hard to pick up the basics of the others.
When One Web Browser Is Not Enough: A Guide for Windows Screen Reader Users by David Kingsbury, Assistive Technology Instructor at the Carroll Center for the Blind, is meant to help JAWS, NVDA, and Windows Narrator users to effectively use the four leading web browsers – Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Edge – in ways that build on the strengths of each of them. Topics covered include: recent trends in web browser and screen reader usage; web accessibility criteria; screen reader keystrokes and strategies for efficiently accessing and navigating websites; browser menu structure; useful web browser features and commands; and JAWS, NVDA and Narrator customizations. Two appendices – a list of keystrokes and a glossary of Internet terms – are included for convenient reference.
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Re: JAWS freezes when I close Word
soner
Hi, it is same here, after closing Word documents, Jaws keeps hanging for a while.
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On 2 Aug 2020, at 22:02, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:
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Re: question about edge and chrome and jaws
Edge is available for Windows 7 and works fine, after all, it's just another chromium based browser.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dan Longmore
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 3:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: question about edge and chrome and jaws
Yes, you can select a different search provider.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Deb and the girls
I have an old laptop with windows 7, jaws 2020, and have downloaded chrome and edge. I put edge as my homepage but am not keen about bing. Would it be possible to have edge as my homepage but get google to do the searching. If so, how would I accomplish that? Also, if not, is there anything else I can use and get rid of bing? Also, do I get rid of internet explorer or just leave it there? I do still use it for some things but find it is less and less responsive and useful with jaws.
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Re: Question about accessible screen sharing, being able to see what others share
Ann Byrne
Sometimes if you invoke picture smart, alt_spacebar, then p, then c you can read the text on the shared screen.
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As far as I know it is not possible to see screen sharing with zoom and JAWS
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Re: JAWS freezes when I close Word
Sharon
I’m still getting this behavior with Rord and Outlook 2016. Sometimes I get it and sometimes I don’t. Repairing Word and Outlook helped but it’s still happening to some extent. Sharon
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 6:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS freezes when I close Word
I am using Windows 10 latest update and Jaws 2019. The Office suite is 2019 single version, not 360. Happens when apps close, such as Windows, Excel and other apps as paint, etc.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Yes, this is same issue I believe. JAWS either goes silent or crashes and restarts but takes up to 30 seconds. This is with latest Windows 10 and JAWS installed.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Of late I’ve been having the same problem in outlook. No sound at all, almost as if the computer is turned off.
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