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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
 

No SMA clock. In fact, if I spend the long green, I mean to buy an SMA.
Of course, I'll try to lean on my state person. I won't spend a dime on JAWS
without at least one screaming argument with that party.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

Unless you are time-constrained to purchase a new version, I'd wait for a
while and watch this list to see what the users have to say about the new
release. No point in paying for something that either broke what you had
before, or didn't add anything you care about.

Again presuming that you don't have an SMA clock ticking.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 18:23
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly
allowed to do after we exchanged vows.

I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to
buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Dave...
 

Don,

Unless you are time-constrained to purchase a new version, I'd wait for a
while and watch this list to see what the users have to say about the new
release. No point in paying for something that either broke what you had
before, or didn't add anything you care about.

Again presuming that you don't have an SMA clock ticking.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 18:23
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly
allowed to do after we exchanged vows.

I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to
buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Having problems getting gmail out with eudora,
test 1.
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Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11

Brian Hansen <BC.Hansen23@...>
 

When I use the latest version of CCleaner's registry cleaner, which is what
I mainly use it for, and JFW 12, the check boxes show up just fine.

Blessings,

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 6:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11

Hi Brian, Jim & peter,

When trying to make changes in cleaner / registry , cleaning/ scanning
options these are the checkboxes that I could never get Jaws to read if they
are checked or not as I arrowed down through them. I went as far as
attempting to label the graphics, & that didn't help either. In looking
through CCleaner, cleaning / scanning options, these are the only checkboxes
there are, except for making changes in tools,options, & settings.
Everything else uses buttons. In order to save myself some time, when
setting CCleaner up on other computers, after getting CCleaner the way I
wanted it on the first computer, I copied the, ccleaner.ini , file and
pasted it into the CCleaner folder in Program Files located in root of the C
drive of our other computers. Now all the computers have CCleaner working
the same & didn't have to spend all that time configuring CCleaner on each
computer separately. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Holdstock
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11


When you say work fine you mean that as you move down the list of items
jaws
says whether it is checked or unchecked without you having to press space
bar to see how it changes? I've tried it on several PCs and have the same
issue.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hansen
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:31 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: c cleaner and Jaws 11

That's interesting, because I'm using the current version of CCleaner and
the latest version of JFW 12, and the check marks work just fine for me.

Blessings,

Brian


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On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 5:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: c cleaner and Jaws 11

Hi Jim,

Unfortunately, that is the way it is for all Jaws versions with any
version
of CCleaner, at least, that is what I have experienced. CCleaner is
updated

regularly, but the situation doesn't improve. Take care.
Mike

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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:43 PM
Subject: c cleaner and Jaws 11


Heya folks,

What is the best version of C Cleaner that works well with Jaws 11?
I've noticed the latest version check boxes aren't spoken automatically
and
one has to double check every item to know either way which becomes so
tiresome.

cheers,

Jim
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Re: How to check windows version and hardware

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi 2.G.I,

No ideas on how to get Gmail to work better. I have a friend that all she
has had is problems with Gmail so, we got her setup withA T &T, her Internet
Service Provider, to insure that she will be able to send / receive her
email. Yes, I am running XP Home on the desktops but, my wife has XP Pro
on her laptop. I will play around on her laptop tomorrow to see how your
steps work there. Thank you very much for getting back to me & explaining
why the steps were not working. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
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To: Jfw@...
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: How to check windows version and hardware



Hi Mike,
sorry about the slow reply,
I been having trouble getting mail out using Eudora.
I am on W7 32 bit & using a gmail account,
even though the messege says has been sent, it clearly doesnt go out.
So any ideas let me know please.

Regarding the systeminfo,
It works on xp pro,
but I tryed systeminfo out on a xp home system,
& I got the same result as you did, gee I been using that tool for
around 5 years, & I have obviously never ran it on a xp home OS before.
So I checked, & no systeminfo.exe in the system32 folder on the xp home
OS.

Are you running xp home?

Best wishes.

Hi 2.G.I,
Sorry about my last post, i didn't enter all the information & questions
that I intended to enter.
I am running XP & after I type, CMD, into the run dialog, press enter,
type in systeminfo, & press enter, this is the message I receive;
graphic 329 C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Mike>systeminfo
'systeminfo' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
C:\Documents and Settings\Mike>W
Did I miss astep, or do these steps not work with XP? Thanks much, take
care.
Mike

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To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: How to check windows version and hardware

Hi, you can do the following.
press windows r to open the run box
type in cmd & press enter
this will open the command prompt.
once its open type in
systeminfo & press enter
this will give you what you are looking for along with a lot of other
details, how ever a lot of the output will be pushed up the screen &
the jaws cant read it, do the following
press alt space
this will open a menu bar, up arrow till you hear edit sub menu
right arrow once, & then down arrow till you hear select all, then press
enter
this will highlight all of the output, press enter & this will add it
to the clipboard.
press windows r again to open the run box
now type in notepad
press enter & this will open a blank notepad document.
now press control v to paist all the output.
now you can go back to the top & read it.
you may need to maximise the notepad window.
There are other ways to get the info you are looking for, but without
knowing what OS you are on & what style config the control panel view
is in, I think its better to say to go this way.
If you need any help understanding any of the output I am happy to help.
Good luck
HTH
At 06:13 PM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
>Hi all this is a very stupid question but I'm in a weir situation at
>the moment. With jaws, how and where can you check what version of
>windows a computer is running, weather it's 32 or 64 bit and what
>hardware like processor and ram it has? I know what's in and on my pc
>but I'm fixing someone elses pc and they can't tell me what's on it,
>it's one of those people who just knows how to switch it on and type.
> From back when I still had better eye sight, I remember there's some
>place you can read it, think you just right clicked on computer then
>properties but if I do that now it only takes me to a system rating,
>Oh and I at least know it must have vista or 7 on it, but need to find
>the exact version and sighted help is out of the question for now.
>Thanks
>
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jaws 13 beta out next week:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

I took the jaws 12 beta for a test drive and I used my focus 44 braille display to test the new jaws braillein feature. Well When I pressed one of the advance bars to pan through the document I was getting garbaled characters. The problem was that the braille translation ingien used in jaws wasn't playing nice with jaws it self. When I filled out the beta report form I had to specify what operating system I was using.
Kenny Peyatt


Re: How to check windows version and hardware

2.g.i <2.g.i.84972@...>
 

Hi Mike,
sorry about the slow reply,
I been having trouble getting mail out using Eudora.
I am on W7 32 bit & using a gmail account,
even though the messege says has been sent, it clearly doesnt go out.
So any ideas let me know please.

Regarding the systeminfo,
It works on xp pro,
but I tryed systeminfo out on a xp home system,
& I got the same result as you did, gee I been using that tool for around 5 years, & I have obviously never ran it on a xp home OS before.
So I checked, & no systeminfo.exe in the system32 folder on the xp home OS.

Are you running xp home?

Best wishes.

Hi 2.G.I,
Sorry about my last post, i didn't enter all the information & questions
that I intended to enter.
I am running XP & after I type, CMD, into the run dialog, press enter,
type in systeminfo, & press enter, this is the message I receive;
graphic 329 C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Mike>systeminfo
'systeminfo' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
C:\Documents and Settings\Mike>W
Did I miss astep, or do these steps not work with XP? Thanks much, take
care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: 2.g.i
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: How to check windows version and hardware

Hi, you can do the following.
press windows r to open the run box
type in cmd & press enter
this will open the command prompt.
once its open type in
systeminfo & press enter
this will give you what you are looking for along with a lot of other
details, how ever a lot of the output will be pushed up the screen &
the jaws cant read it, do the following
press alt space
this will open a menu bar, up arrow till you hear edit sub menu
right arrow once, & then down arrow till you hear select all, then press
enter
this will highlight all of the output, press enter & this will add it
to the clipboard.
press windows r again to open the run box
now type in notepad
press enter & this will open a blank notepad document.
now press control v to paist all the output.
now you can go back to the top & read it.
you may need to maximise the notepad window.
There are other ways to get the info you are looking for, but without
knowing what OS you are on & what style config the control panel view
is in, I think its better to say to go this way.
If you need any help understanding any of the output I am happy to help.
Good luck
HTH
At 06:13 PM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
>Hi all this is a very stupid question but I'm in a weir situation at
>the moment. With jaws, how and where can you check what version of
>windows a computer is running, weather it's 32 or 64 bit and what
>hardware like processor and ram it has? I know what's in and on my pc
>but I'm fixing someone elses pc and they can't tell me what's on it,
>it's one of those people who just knows how to switch it on and type.
> From back when I still had better eye sight, I remember there's some
>place you can read it, think you just right clicked on computer then
>properties but if I do that now it only takes me to a system rating,
>Oh and I at least know it must have vista or 7 on it, but need to find
>the exact version and sighted help is out of the question for now.
>Thanks
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I hear that! I have to pay out of pocket now seeing as my case closed with
the state two weeks ago. I hope its worth it before I make the final leap to
purchase 13 and the SMA...

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of don wardlow
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly
allowed to do after we exchanged vows.

I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to
buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
 

Your beta test must have been more successful than what I was grudgingly
allowed to do after we exchanged vows.

I might try the download, then see if I can hit up my family for the $$ to
buy it for real, since I doubt my state will help.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Paul Faucheux
 

On 9/8/2011 5:02 PM, John Martyn wrote:
Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
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hi john martin i am going to test it also next week!!!!!


OT skype talking?

daniel <gutz2020@...>
 

Hey, I am using skype talking with jaws but I signed into my faebook for the
chatting on fb with skype. I have something like 570 contacts on faebook and
I am getting a skype talking notice every few seconds. Could someone respond
to me off list with instructions on how to log out of my facebook on skype?
Thanks!!!!!!!
Daniel

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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Dave...
 

Don,

That's funny! I actually was a beta-tester in that sense, and still got
married.

In any case, you can download a "beta" from FS and use it as long as the
version is not released. Once it's released, the "beta" is supposed to
expire and you will need to either use up an SMA or purchase.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:17
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week


Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Dave...
 

Holgar,

That's not a true beta test in the sense I mean. A true beta test is to have
a team of internal Freedom Scientific power-users who are assigned specific
features and test specific applications on a new platform, trying all sorts
of combinations and permutations, then feeding the results back to the
development team. This ensures that all aspects of the software, both new
features and original features are tested to make sure they all play
together.

What FS does is actually a disservice to the customers, as it really says
that they don't have the resources or patience to do all the necessary
brute-force testing inside their walls. Instead they push out the product
and hope that the general user population will somehow catch the bugs they
could not.

And in fact the testing done by the general public is not structured so not
a chance that it will cover all the areas that need testing. I would expect
that most of the public beta-so-called-testers are just users who want an
early copy to try out and start using, and don't bother wringing out all the
capabilities and combinations of applications for integrity. It's a lot like
shooting craps, and hoping that you eventually cover all the possible bets
in a single evening.


Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:08
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Dave...
 

Holgar,

If I were a true beta tester the product would never get released. I'm too
critical of flaws.

And mind your sharp tongue, young man! There is no shame in pointing out
flaws in a product, even if there is no other reasonable substitute.


Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:58
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who
love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
 

Will it be free to download and play with?
I thought 13 would be one we had to pay for.

I think beta-testing is a good idea. If my wife had let me beta-test her,
I'd still be single! lol

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report
problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

when it comes out next week, just download it. play with it and report problems. The more people do so it will be better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
 

Holger, I've been using JAWS since 3.30, how do I become a beta tester?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:58
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who

love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like
the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
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Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
 

Holger, I hate to say this, but I thought you were the person that brought
it up. Why shouldn't people make comments?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:44
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

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I got that. I had been using jaws since it came out. I suggest for those who love complaining to be beta testers to help. Also if someone does not like the product purchase another program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
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John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Dave...
 

Holgar,

Because FS has a track record of breaking things that used to work, with
each revision. Of course in addition to adding new features.

But we can all hope.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 15:43
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


why do not wait before making any comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 13 out next week

John, you can hope, but knowing fs, they'll have changed them just to piss
you off.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: 08 September 2011 23:24
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

That's what we're about to find out actually. I am hoping there is no change

to the scripts though. I'll especially need this beta to start working on my

next project which I am not announcing yet.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I am. Could I use the scripts with 13?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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