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Re: unsubscribe

northstar1950@...
 

oops, to many mailto's on the line, let me fix it:

mailto:jfw-request@...?subject=unsubscribe

that should do it!

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hmmm, i didn't have any trouble unsubscribing using the link i provided when i had to switch isp's last week. not sure what the problem is, but it works for me and it should work for anybody else that uses the provided link

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Re: unsubscribe

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Dear Friends,
Sorry to bother you, I go to the main JAWS site, and I go through the process of unsubscribing, hitting the button that says:
Unsubscribe
But I keep getting this on that page:
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The confirmation email has been sent.

Jfw list: member options for user adicey@...



But I get no Confirmation email message!

Any more ideads?

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hmmm, i didn't have any trouble unsubscribing using the link i provided when i had to switch isp's last week. not sure what the problem is, but it works for me and it should work for anybody else that uses the provided link

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Re: installing jaws without burning a key

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

2 dot G I:
When you test it out, let me know...

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of 2.g.i
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:28 PM
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Subject: Re: installing jaws without burning a key

Hi, I cant test this at the moment, but by the sound of it you have nothing
to loos.
Im asuming that windows is still starting up ok?
if so go to the program files folder & to Freedom Scientific & coppy the 2
folders, Activator, & Authorization Coppy them onto a flash stick or
external drive.
If it wont let you coppy them, you may need to stop jaws from starting on
reboot & use NVDA to coppy them.

after you reinstall the system, re install jaws & I would suggest you set
jaws not to start automaticly & then reboot, then use NVDA to coppy the 2
folders you coppied before back into the Freedom Scientific folder over
writing the existing ones.

As I said havent tested this but because you are reinstalling your system
with out any hardware or OS changes this may work, & you wont need to use
another auth key.

Good luck,
let me know how you go.



At 07:41 AM 9/11/2011, you wrote:
Hi,

Someone had a file or set of instructions to install jaws without
burning a key. The instructions were for XP. My question is has anyone
here used those instructions using windows 7?

I am having serious computer issues and I need to reset my laptop to
factory default, which will require me to reinstall jfw.

I have been trying to research a solution to the three problems I have
been experiencing but google is no help at the moment? I want to set my
laptop to factory defaults because I am about to pull my hair out but
before I do can someone verify if it works on win 7? If not, I will do
it and just use window eyes and NVDA until Monday lol.

Laters.

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Re: installing jaws without burning a key

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Hi, I cant test this at the moment, but by the sound of it you have nothing to loos.
Im asuming that windows is still starting up ok?
if so go to the program files folder & to Freedom Scientific & coppy the 2 folders,
Activator, & Authorization
Coppy them onto a flash stick or external drive.
If it wont let you coppy them, you may need to stop jaws from starting on reboot & use NVDA to coppy them.

after you reinstall the system, re install jaws & I would suggest you set jaws not to start automaticly & then reboot, then use NVDA to coppy the 2 folders you coppied before back into the Freedom Scientific folder over writing the existing ones.

As I said havent tested this but because you are reinstalling your system with out any hardware or OS changes this may work, & you wont need to use another auth key.

Good luck,
let me know how you go.

At 07:41 AM 9/11/2011, you wrote:
Hi,

Someone had a file or set of instructions to install jaws without burning a
key. The instructions were for XP. My question is has anyone here used those
instructions using windows 7?

I am having serious computer issues and I need to reset my laptop to factory
default, which will require me to reinstall jfw.

I have been trying to research a solution to the three problems I have been
experiencing but google is no help at the moment? I want to set my laptop to
factory defaults because I am about to pull my hair out but before I do can
someone verify if it works on win 7? If not, I will do it and just use
window eyes and NVDA until Monday lol.

Laters.

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Re: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

Howard <hwolcott@...>
 

hi john:
I did look at the page but as soon as I saw it was still a private beta I I said no thanks.
will wait for the official public beta.


howard wolcott

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From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:40 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

It won't work with the JAWS 12 authorization anyway so it won't work. You have to wait for the beta anyway.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave


Good thing I have slow reflexes. I hadn't started yet, and now I deleted
the thing. It won't be me getting somebody else in trouble. I can do that
for myself.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

Out of stupidity, I gave you all a link I wasn't supposed to. I thought it
was already common knowledge.
Please do not, I repeat, do not download anything off there as it could get
someone in trouble.
Thank you very much.
Just wait the extra time for the beta to be released which is only a few
days.
John Martyn
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Re: unsubscribe

northstar1950@...
 

hmmm, i didn't have any trouble unsubscribing using the link i provided when i had to switch isp's last week. not sure what the problem is, but it works for me and it should work for anybody else that uses the provided link

mailto:jfw-request@...?subject=unsubscribe<mailto:jfw-request@...?subject=unsubscribe>


when you click on the link above, a message is generated in your default email client and all you have to do is just press the send command of your client. you should receive a message that you can reply to to confirm that you definitely do want to unsubscribe.


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Thank you kindly but I have tried all the obvious/given links to unsubscribe and they have not worked!
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To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<mailto:jfw@...>
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Cristóbal
 

Lucy, You've got some splaining to do...

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:10 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Not saying where I got this but:
http://files.freedomscientific.com/beta/JAWS/lM14/JAWS13.0.071_PrivateBeta.h
tm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Hey John,
Do you have a direct url to that info? I'd like to check it out.

Thanks,
Tom




----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I'm totally serious, at least that's what the JAWS site says. It works
with graphical text and they used a setup file to demonstrate it. I'm
trying to find out more, but there isn't much info about it now. Guess
I'll find out next week.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Hi,
Are you pulling my leg?JAWS 13 will have OCR function? Really? How
extensive will this functionality be, and what's to become of Open Book,
then?

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I like the OCR functions Jaws will have. I wonder if that portion is
scriptable. That would be so awesome.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard" <hwolcott@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


hi john and all:
no disrespect, john, but I will wait for an official announcement from
FS.
usuallty there is a podcast released before even a public beta.
there is still no podcast yet.


howard wolcott

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From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:02 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list"
<jfw@...>
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to
try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write
scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS
13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Regarding Ocr,, I am sure many of us have our own, but I seem to recall in
the past there was an ocr in the office suite, I did not use it myself,and
it was some years ago I do not have that copy of office any more. I also
heard someone called Jamil,I cannot remember his full name had tips for free
ocr packages, I am sure some of you will know who I mean regards dorothy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: 10 September 2011 21:13
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Still, while the OCR feature sounds like it might actually be useful, there
doesn't seem to be much else in JAWS 13 to get excited about and make me
want to rush out and upgrade my SMA.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


*LOL*
Uh John, are you part of the beta test team? I bet you won't be for long.

Still though, that was interesting reading. Many will be glad to see the
Excel problems receiving attention, finally!

Chris


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installing jaws without burning a key

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hi,

Someone had a file or set of instructions to install jaws without burning a
key. The instructions were for XP. My question is has anyone here used those
instructions using windows 7?

I am having serious computer issues and I need to reset my laptop to factory
default, which will require me to reinstall jfw.

I have been trying to research a solution to the three problems I have been
experiencing but google is no help at the moment? I want to set my laptop to
factory defaults because I am about to pull my hair out but before I do can
someone verify if it works on win 7? If not, I will do it and just use
window eyes and NVDA until Monday lol.

Laters.

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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Gerald Levy
 

Still, while the OCR feature sounds like it might actually be useful, there doesn't seem to be much else in JAWS 13 to get excited about and make me want to rush out and upgrade my SMA.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <@ve3rwj>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


*LOL*
Uh John, are you part of the beta test team? I bet you won't be for long.

Still though, that was interesting reading. Many will be glad to see the Excel problems receiving attention, finally!

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Re: Trying to unsubscribe

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Didn't you get your monthly news letter? It covers all that, sent monthly
Members dorothyto

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Alan Dicey
Sent: 10 September 2011 18:57
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Trying to unsubscribe

Dear Friends,
I too also want to unsubscribe from this list, and I am finding it very
dificult.

The link you provided did not work.

Any other ideas?

Thank you in advance

With Best Regards,
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe


Thank you kindly but I have tried all the obvious/given links to
unsubscribe and they have not worked!
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To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<mailto:jfw@...>
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Dave...
 

Chris,

"...see the Excel problems receiving attention, finally!"

Thank you for letting that horse out of the barn. There is hope for me.

To wit I finally loaded the latest JAWS 12 on my studio computer with XP Pro
32-bit SP2 and tried Excel 2007 "out of the box" and it was completely
screwed up.

So I'm glad FS owned up to their FUBAR and will fix it.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:36
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


*LOL*
Uh John, are you part of the beta test team? I bet you won't be for
long.

Still though, that was interesting reading. Many will be glad to
see the Excel problems receiving attention, finally!

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Re: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

John Martyn
 

The page you were actually looking at does not have all the current updates as well. The beta will be much better and it will be easier to install. I just wanted you all to see what updates to JAWS were coming out.
Let them put out the real beta that doesn't have all the bugs.
Sigh, that's what I get for being stupid. It will be a real headache if you install this one.
John

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave


Oh ok. Well, the reading was interesting anyway. :)
Chris

At 03:40 PM 9/10/2011, you wrote:
It won't work with the JAWS 12 authorization anyway so it won't work. You have to wait for the beta anyway.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave


Good thing I have slow reflexes. I hadn't started yet, and now I deleted
the thing. It won't be me getting somebody else in trouble. I can do that
for myself.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:20 PM
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Subject: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

Out of stupidity, I gave you all a link I wasn't supposed to. I thought it
was already common knowledge.
Please do not, I repeat, do not download anything off there as it could get
someone in trouble.
Thank you very much.
Just wait the extra time for the beta to be released which is only a few
days.
John Martyn
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Re: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Oh ok. Well, the reading was interesting anyway. :)
Chris

At 03:40 PM 9/10/2011, you wrote:
It won't work with the JAWS 12 authorization anyway so it won't work. You have to wait for the beta anyway.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave


Good thing I have slow reflexes. I hadn't started yet, and now I deleted
the thing. It won't be me getting somebody else in trouble. I can do that
for myself.

Don

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On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

Out of stupidity, I gave you all a link I wasn't supposed to. I thought it
was already common knowledge.
Please do not, I repeat, do not download anything off there as it could get
someone in trouble.
Thank you very much.
Just wait the extra time for the beta to be released which is only a few
days.
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

John Martyn
 

I know huh. I am a total retard.
John

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


*LOL*
Uh John, are you part of the beta test team? I bet you won't be for long.
Still though, that was interesting reading. Many will be glad to see the Excel problems receiving attention, finally!
Chris
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Re: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

John Martyn
 

It won't work with the JAWS 12 authorization anyway so it won't work. You have to wait for the beta anyway.
John

----- Original Message -----
From: "don wardlow" <wardlows97@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave


Good thing I have slow reflexes. I hadn't started yet, and now I deleted
the thing. It won't be me getting somebody else in trouble. I can do that
for myself.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

Out of stupidity, I gave you all a link I wasn't supposed to. I thought it
was already common knowledge.
Please do not, I repeat, do not download anything off there as it could get
someone in trouble.
Thank you very much.
Just wait the extra time for the beta to be released which is only a few
days.
John Martyn
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Re: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

uh, too late man.
I didn't download, mostly because I don't have a separate machine for testing. But, many probably will download.

At 03:20 PM 9/10/2011, you wrote:
Out of stupidity, I gave you all a link I wasn't supposed to. I thought it was already common knowledge.
Please do not, I repeat, do not download anything off there as it could get someone in trouble.
Thank you very much.
Just wait the extra time for the beta to be released which is only a few days.
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

*LOL*
Uh John, are you part of the beta test team? I bet you won't be for long.

Still though, that was interesting reading. Many will be glad to see the Excel problems receiving attention, finally!

Chris


Re: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

don wardlow <wardlows97@...>
 

Good thing I have slow reflexes. I hadn't started yet, and now I deleted
the thing. It won't be me getting somebody else in trouble. I can do that
for myself.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

Out of stupidity, I gave you all a link I wasn't supposed to. I thought it
was already common knowledge.
Please do not, I repeat, do not download anything off there as it could get
someone in trouble.
Thank you very much.
Just wait the extra time for the beta to be released which is only a few
days.
John Martyn
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JAWS 13 don't download off that link I gave

John Martyn
 

Out of stupidity, I gave you all a link I wasn't supposed to. I thought it was already common knowledge.
Please do not, I repeat, do not download anything off there as it could get someone in trouble.
Thank you very much.
Just wait the extra time for the beta to be released which is only a few days.
John Martyn
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