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Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Crystal French
 

Hi Chris,
I think you may be right about the older computer.

Mine is an XP Home, and I keep babying it along.

I guess the disparity between computer systems that Jaws is trying to span these days may be asking a lot.

It's just that I do remember early versions of Jaws where constant nose dives were not such an issue.

I sure don't know the answer, but trying to keep up with technology is a lot, as they say, like herding cats.

Crystal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <@ve3rwj>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12


Hi Crystal.

I can only report that Jaws 12 seems to work fine here. I have 11 around just in case, but at least with the latest version of 12, things appear to be working well.

That's on a new system running Windows 7 64-bit. Maybe JFW 12 throws a fit if it's on an older machine with Vista or XP? I don't know.

Chris, also hot here in Ontario Canada. 90 plus humidity that is - probably not as hot as it is in Texas.


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Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Hi Crystal.

I can only report that Jaws 12 seems to work fine here. I have 11 around just in case, but at least with the latest version of 12, things appear to be working well.

That's on a new system running Windows 7 64-bit. Maybe JFW 12 throws a fit if it's on an older machine with Vista or XP? I don't know.

Chris, also hot here in Ontario Canada. 90 plus humidity that is - probably not as hot as it is in Texas.

Re: Default files in ENU folder

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

I don't have that in my copy of 11.
I do see several files with the extention .jbs in various places though.

At 03:24 PM 8/7/2011, you wrote:
Hi All,

I am running Jaws10, 11, & 12. In my ENU folders of Jaws10 & 11, I have a
defaultJBS folder, but in Jaws12 there is not a DefaultJBS folder. Is this
folder excluded in Jaws12? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Re: What gives with disabled keystrokes

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Dorothy, don't be silly. If he was beta testing Jaws 13, he certainly couldn't tell us anything about it.

At 03:21 PM 8/7/2011, you wrote:
Oh James so you are using windows 7 now, I wonder how long since you did I thought were thinking about it. I suppose you have not got a sneak preview about jaws 13, Or maybe windows 8 regards Dorothy??

Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Crystal French
 

Well, I gave the latest version of Jaws 12 a go, and, it turned out to be even worse.

Not only was Jaws crashing in IE 8, but was crashing in other programs as well, such as in Outlook Express.

So, I'm back to Jaws 11. <sigh>

I have to say, at least on my cmputer, Jaws 12 has been a muddled mess.

Maybe it is my imagination, but it seems like FS keeps putting out Jaws 12 builds every time I turn around, and nothing get fixed.

I don't expect perfection, but it sure would be nice if Jaws would just keep talking like it is supposed to do.

Hey, it's hot, I'm in Texas, and just being a bit cranky today.

Crystal

Default files in ENU folder

Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

I am running Jaws10, 11, & 12. In my ENU folders of Jaws10 & 11, I have a
defaultJBS folder, but in Jaws12 there is not a DefaultJBS folder. Is this
folder excluded in Jaws12? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
much, take care.
Mike
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Re: What gives with disabled keystrokes

Dorothy <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Oh James so you are using windows 7 now, I wonder how long since you did I thought were thinking about it. I suppose you have not got a sneak preview about jaws 13, Or maybe windows 8 regards Dorothy??

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <james@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:25 AM
Subject: RE: What gives with disabled keystrokes


Considering both keystrokes you mentioned work just fine here, and I'm
running latest JAWS on Windows 7, I'd say it's definitely something in your
environment at work. Go corporate IT folks!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: August-02-11 7:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: What gives with disabled keystrokes

OK.
I just wrote about the disappearance of the Jaws Task Manager, formerly
enabled with Jaws key (Insert) plus F-10.
Now, the keystroke for starting the Jaws dictionary has disappeared.
Jaws key (insert) plus D used to start the Jaws dictionary manager. That is
no longer the case.
Even worse, when I press Jaws key (insert) plus F-2 and then press D to
locate the Dictionary Manager, when I press ENTER actually to start the
Dictionary Manager, the Dictionary Manager just goes away.
Any idea what's going on?
If this is what we get with Windows 7, I'll gladly go back to Windows XP.
OK.
There may be another issue. To get JAWS to run at all on our system, our IT
security monkeys had sequentially to stop group policies from "blocking"
certain DLLs.
Do you think that might be the problem, i.e., they didn't stop the blocking
of all needed DLLs?


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Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...>
 

Don't bother with the full reinstall. I did it three times for various reasons and still the problems persist. All worked fine until a few weeks ago I think.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Morey Worthington
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Hi Adrian and all others who gave suggestions.
Will try them all and if any of them help, will let everyone know.
If not, might do a complete re-install of Win/7.
Thanks,
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Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...>
 

I completely reset IE9 so all add ons were removed but still had the problem.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 2:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

In the past, other listers have suggested looking down your list of add-ons
in IE's tools/options and disabling them one by one to see if the cause of
the crashes lies there.

I don't have this problem with IE, but I do with Firefox. Computers are
eccentric beings. Btw, I have XP Pro, not Windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:42 AM
To: Jfw@...
Subject: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Morning all,
Using Win/7 Home Premium, and Jaws 12. When using Internet Explorer
(8 or9), and the newest versions of Jaws 12, newest bill and a older
bill, IE just stops working. I get a message that IE has shut down
and Windows is looking for a answer. Sometimes IE will come back
asking me, or should I say telling me, that the last browsing session
has shut down, would I like to restart it.
Any thoughts on why the IE problems?
Maybe IE is corrupted. This happens in both IE8 and 9.
I am baffled. Did a scan disc and a defrag also but with no good results.
Any help appreciated.
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Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Adrian Spratt
 

Alice,

In IE8, go to tools with alt-t, then arrow up or down to "Manage add-ons,"
which you can also reach by pressing a.

I'm not at all sure the problem is with add-ons, but when all else fails, it
might be worth a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of alice dampman humel
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Hi, Adrian and all,
where does one find these add ons?
I don't so much encounter the closing thing, but I get the dialog
box about an error report or that JAWS box that spells somehting
or other out, say next line I think it is, and when I click
"don't send," the whole thing goes away. I encounter this on many
web sites...maybe this add on thing is the problem there, too?
Thanks.
Alice
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"
<jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12


In the past, other listers have suggested looking down your list
of add-ons
in IE's tools/options and disabling them one by one to see if the
cause of
the crashes lies there.

I don't have this problem with IE, but I do with Firefox.
Computers are
eccentric beings. Btw, I have XP Pro, not Windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:42 AM
To: Jfw@...
Subject: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Morning all,
Using Win/7 Home Premium, and Jaws 12. When using Internet
Explorer
(8 or9), and the newest versions of Jaws 12, newest bill and a
older
bill, IE just stops working. I get a message that IE has shut
down
and Windows is looking for a answer. Sometimes IE will come back
asking me, or should I say telling me, that the last browsing
session
has shut down, would I like to restart it.
Any thoughts on why the IE problems?
Maybe IE is corrupted. This happens in both IE8 and 9.
I am baffled. Did a scan disc and a defrag also but with no good
results.
Any help appreciated.
Morey Worthington


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Re: Latest build of JAWS

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

No, as far as I know, the current build is 12.0.1169.

Chris

At 02:17 PM 8/7/2011, you wrote:

A couple of inquiries: Is 12.0.512 the latest build?
I was out when our IT department pressed the Windows 7 image on my hard drive and installed JAWS.
I just checked the build I have installed, and I think it is the most recent release: 12.0.512. Is that correct?
So far, it seems to be working pretty well, though some of the issues I pointed out to FS in Version 11 still haven't been fixed. This was after I demonstrated (and got FS to admit) that the feature, which worked in Version 10, was broken in version 11, and is still broken.
My second inquiry:
When new releases come out, I always see where a whole list of bug fixes are included. Funny thing, the list never includes anything I have pointed out.
I'm curious as to whether anyone on this list has reported a bug and then seen it fixed in a subsequent JAWS release. Surely the reported bug fixes are real. Right? I'm sure it must be me, but the reported bug fixes in the release notes never seem to have anything to do with me or how I use JAWS.
I hope I'm utterly alone in this.
Have a great day.


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Latest build of JAWS

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

A couple of inquiries: Is 12.0.512 the latest build?
I was out when our IT department pressed the Windows 7 image on my hard drive and installed JAWS.
I just checked the build I have installed, and I think it is the most recent release: 12.0.512. Is that correct?
So far, it seems to be working pretty well, though some of the issues I pointed out to FS in Version 11 still haven't been fixed. This was after I demonstrated (and got FS to admit) that the feature, which worked in Version 10, was broken in version 11, and is still broken.
My second inquiry:
When new releases come out, I always see where a whole list of bug fixes are included. Funny thing, the list never includes anything I have pointed out.
I'm curious as to whether anyone on this list has reported a bug and then seen it fixed in a subsequent JAWS release. Surely the reported bug fixes are real. Right? I'm sure it must be me, but the reported bug fixes in the release notes never seem to have anything to do with me or how I use JAWS.
I hope I'm utterly alone in this.
Have a great day.


I. Edward Marquette
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Mobile: 816.812.0088
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Re: Auto updates

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Haha can't think how I've overlooked that. I'm not new to jaws so know
exactly what it does I'm just new to jaws 12 got it last week. Thanks
a lot

On 8/7/11, David <davidwhitehead1957@...> wrote:
Hello there;

To turn off the
Jaws automatic update notification,

Go to;

Jaws/options/basics,
Now tab and uncheck the box,

And tab okay.


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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:31 AM
To: Jaws
Subject: Auto updates

Hi i'm new to jaws 12 just want to find out where to switch auto updates on
and off.


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Re: JAWS and Safe mode in Windows

Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Curtis & Anders,

Below is the SendSpace download link for the safe mode file.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/03tej9

I checked this link before posting it, & it is still working. Hope this
helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: cjackson102@...
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS and Safe mode in Windows


you will need a screen reader without a mirror driver and yes you can run
it in windows 64 bit someone had posted the file earlier can they please
repost as I have problems getting it on the list someone contacted me off
list and I got it to them
On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Anders Boholdt-Petersen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Do you have a link to the file I can download, so I can use JAWS in Safe
mode (I have a USB sound card), and can I also use the file if I using
Windows 7 64-bit?
>
> Very thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Anders
> --- cjackson102@... wrote---
> but their is a file that you can download to the registry that will
allow you to load screen readers like nvda or ones who don't use mirror
drivers if you have a usb sound card.
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Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

alice dampman humel <alicedh@...>
 

Hi, Adrian and all,
where does one find these add ons?
I don't so much encounter the closing thing, but I get the dialog
box about an error report or that JAWS box that spells somehting
or other out, say next line I think it is, and when I click
"don't send," the whole thing goes away. I encounter this on many
web sites...maybe this add on thing is the problem there, too?
Thanks.
Alice
alicedh@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"
<jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12


In the past, other listers have suggested looking down your list
of add-ons
in IE's tools/options and disabling them one by one to see if the
cause of
the crashes lies there.

I don't have this problem with IE, but I do with Firefox.
Computers are
eccentric beings. Btw, I have XP Pro, not Windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:42 AM
To: Jfw@...
Subject: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Morning all,
Using Win/7 Home Premium, and Jaws 12. When using Internet
Explorer
(8 or9), and the newest versions of Jaws 12, newest bill and a
older
bill, IE just stops working. I get a message that IE has shut
down
and Windows is looking for a answer. Sometimes IE will come back
asking me, or should I say telling me, that the last browsing
session
has shut down, would I like to restart it.
Any thoughts on why the IE problems?
Maybe IE is corrupted. This happens in both IE8 and 9.
I am baffled. Did a scan disc and a defrag also but with no good
results.
Any help appreciated.
Morey Worthington


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Re: JAWS and Safe mode in Windows

curtis jackson
 

you will need a screen reader without a mirror driver and yes you can run it in windows 64 bit someone had posted the file earlier can they please repost as I have problems getting it on the list someone contacted me off list and I got it to them

On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Anders Boholdt-Petersen wrote:

Hi,

Do you have a link to the file I can download, so I can use JAWS in Safe mode (I have a USB sound card), and can I also use the file if I using Windows 7 64-bit?

Very thanks.

Regards,
Anders
--- cjackson102@... wrote---
but their is a file that you can download to the registry that will allow you to load screen readers like nvda or ones who don't use mirror drivers if you have a usb sound card.

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Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Morey Worthington
 

Hi Adrian and all others who gave suggestions.
Will try them all and if any of them help, will let everyone know.
If not, might do a complete re-install of Win/7.
Thanks,
Morey

Re: How to I get back to my in box on windows live mail

ken lawrence
 

Hi the problem seems to have corrected itself. when I sent this the original message I got a dialog asking for email adress/passsword/display name. and it works without a hitch. think I had some kind of a freeze. Oh Yeah something else, why is forms mode coming up when I type a message? is something else launching.

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:29 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: How to I get back to my in box on windows live mail

Hello there;

Well, there are 2 different ways to get yourself back into the WLM inbox,

The first way is,
Press ctrl+#1 on the numbers row,

The second way is to
Press the f6key and down arrow and enter on mail.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ken Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 10:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: How to I get back to my in box on windows live mail

Hi list I arrowed down to far and I now can’t see my inbox. I see storage folder and quick views, but not in box and I just looked on
AOL directly and have two messages. so how to I get out of this storage folders unread from contacts and other stuff and restore myt corect view on windows live mail. Also another related note I am seeing an update is available for windows live essentials how to I click to install it don’t se a button or anything even with jaws cursor.
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Re: How to I get back to my in box on windows live mail

ohio1803@...
 

I sometimes, actually fairly often, find that my focus is lost in Windows Live Mail 2011, using JAWS 12. But if I press CTRL + 1, that puts the focus on the Tree View of the email account. I will hear the name of the folder and then I TAB over to the List View. And I am good to go. I currently am using this email program for several email accounts. And I am pretty happy, except I am still pretty crazy helpless with some of the ribbons, and am still working on that when I can.
Hope that is helpful, too.
Thanks.
Rik

Re: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

ken lawrence
 

I've noticed that too don't think it's a corupt browser I think it's some kind of little hickup in the brows or windows. if it happens only periodically don't think you have to worry. if it continues then do an antivirus/antimalware scan. but I have had it. I think sometimes it what ever site you're on too like on blip FM. I think that flash heavy site sometimes gums up the works.

-----Original Message-----
From: Morey Worthington
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:41 AM
To: Jfw@...
Subject: IE8 and IE9 crashing with Jaws 12

Morning all,
Using Win/7 Home Premium, and Jaws 12. When using Internet Explorer
(8 or9), and the newest versions of Jaws 12, newest bill and a older
bill, IE just stops working. I get a message that IE has shut down
and Windows is looking for a answer. Sometimes IE will come back
asking me, or should I say telling me, that the last browsing session
has shut down, would I like to restart it.
Any thoughts on why the IE problems?
Maybe IE is corrupted. This happens in both IE8 and 9.
I am baffled. Did a scan disc and a defrag also but with no good results.
Any help appreciated.
Morey Worthington


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