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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Whats going on with my font/ its supposed to use times new roman 12 I thought I will check my options thanks for alerting me. That should be fixed. It was on ms gothic. I did not know it looked so strange.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
That may be true, but it works great.
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Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Rick Mladek
Sieghard,
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Where do we find this setting?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Sieghard, could you tell us what the group policy item was, or point to the post? I'm curious as to what it might have been. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 16:54 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hello Pat, I don't wan to minimize the issues you had, but Jaws 2020 has been out for over 6 months and while there will always be certain configurations and systems with various issues, these may not always be 100% the fault of Jaws. I, for example, had one computer where for over a year I could not use any of the Windows apps like Calculator and in addition to that Jaws would read absolutely nothing in the start menu or the Settings app. I could open Settings and when somebody checked I was told visually everything was fine, I could right arrow and down arrow and focus would move, I could press enter and whatever category I was on opened up and so on, but Jaws was absolutely silent. This was even before Jaws 2020 came out and it was like this with Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 and nothing I did including completely uninstalling both versions, deleting all Jaws folders and reinstalling would fix it. At the same time I had another almost identical computer at my business with very similar hardware and all worked fine. Finally I read a post somewhere where another user had the same problem and somehow they either found out or were told to check if a particular item in the group policy editor in Windows 10 Pro was enabled. I checked the same setting and it was disabled on this particular computer, I have no idea why or how, but it was and as soon as I enabled it all worked perfectly. Narrator, by the way, worked just fine in the Settings app, start menu and calculator, it was just Jaws which had the problem and the problem which fixed the issue had nothing to do with Jaws, but was simply a Windows setting. I mentioned this because it shows how sometimes a problem with Jaws can be extremely specific to one system and be caused by something which is directly not even related to Jaws. I am convinced that if I had wiped the system and reinstalled Windows this would have also fixed the problem, but this happened to be on the PC we use as the main register at my retail store and there is other software on this system which is not quite so easy to reinstall so for the longest time I just put up with it and used Narrator if I wanted to do something in the Settings, I hardly ever use the start menu anyways and when I needed to calculate something I'd just open up Excel instead of using the Calculator. This way I could work around the problem, but it was sure nice when it turned out to be such a simple fix which took me all of 30 seconds to make. Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hi, Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10. Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything. Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and take the bugs out of it. God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet. Pat -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software. I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure! -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus .
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Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Rick Mladek
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The control keyboard command, either control +F or insert +control +f also is troubled in all browsers using latest version of jaws with most up to date windows 10 This is troubled in all, not one or the other browsers but all. Surely someone else has noticed this, as well. It simply does not find what you or I may know is on the page. This also is troubled in other apps as Outlook and MS Word 2019. Rick
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hi Sieghard I take your point, that there can be other things effecting jaws. However, I feel lately, that there is a lot of things that freedom scientific are not testing. You may have been lucky with this, as you had access to the group policy editor in windows pro. As you know, this is not available in windows home. Another thing I have discovered for example, is that in the new Microsoft chrome edge, try the following. Press ctrl+f to enter the find box. Try to type something that you know is on the page. You will not find it. Press close on the diagolue box. Now using the f3 key to enter jaws find. Jaws will say that the item cannot be found. This new edge is only out. Surely, someone testing this with jaws in freedom scientific discovered this? If not why? Regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 16:54 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hello Pat, I don't wan to minimize the issues you had, but Jaws 2020 has been out for over 6 months and while there will always be certain configurations and systems with various issues, these may not always be 100% the fault of Jaws. I, for example, had one computer where for over a year I could not use any of the Windows apps like Calculator and in addition to that Jaws would read absolutely nothing in the start menu or the Settings app. I could open Settings and when somebody checked I was told visually everything was fine, I could right arrow and down arrow and focus would move, I could press enter and whatever category I was on opened up and so on, but Jaws was absolutely silent. This was even before Jaws 2020 came out and it was like this with Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 and nothing I did including completely uninstalling both versions, deleting all Jaws folders and reinstalling would fix it. At the same time I had another almost identical computer at my business with very similar hardware and all worked fine. Finally I read a post somewhere where another user had the same problem and somehow they either found out or were told to check if a particular item in the group policy editor in Windows 10 Pro was enabled. I checked the same setting and it was disabled on this particular computer, I have no idea why or how, but it was and as soon as I enabled it all worked perfectly. Narrator, by the way, worked just fine in the Settings app, start menu and calculator, it was just Jaws which had the problem and the problem which fixed the issue had nothing to do with Jaws, but was simply a Windows setting. I mentioned this because it shows how sometimes a problem with Jaws can be extremely specific to one system and be caused by something which is directly not even related to Jaws. I am convinced that if I had wiped the system and reinstalled Windows this would have also fixed the problem, but this happened to be on the PC we use as the main register at my retail store and there is other software on this system which is not quite so easy to reinstall so for the longest time I just put up with it and used Narrator if I wanted to do something in the Settings, I hardly ever use the start menu anyways and when I needed to calculate something I'd just open up Excel instead of using the Calculator. This way I could work around the problem, but it was sure nice when it turned out to be such a simple fix which took me all of 30 seconds to make. Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hi, Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10. Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything. Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and take the bugs out of it. God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet. Pat -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software. I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure! -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Judy
Hi, what do you mean by chromium-based browsers? Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Brave is an excellent choice, and its built in ad blocking and privacy features make it ideal for a screen reader user. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Loy <loyrg2845@...>
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That may be true, but it works great.
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Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Cristóbal
I found the March 2020 update to be quite buggy. Mainly my Outlook 22016 calendar slowing down something terrible and Jaws saying table in cells in Word documents and just little stuff here and there.
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I think the table thing is gone with the most recent April update, but haven't used it enough to say if the Outlook calendar thing was addressed. Cristóbal
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:33 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Sieghard, could you tell us what the group policy item was, or point to the post? I'm curious as to what it might have been. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 16:54 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hello Pat, I don't wan to minimize the issues you had, but Jaws 2020 has been out for over 6 months and while there will always be certain configurations and systems with various issues, these may not always be 100% the fault of Jaws. I, for example, had one computer where for over a year I could not use any of the Windows apps like Calculator and in addition to that Jaws would read absolutely nothing in the start menu or the Settings app. I could open Settings and when somebody checked I was told visually everything was fine, I could right arrow and down arrow and focus would move, I could press enter and whatever category I was on opened up and so on, but Jaws was absolutely silent. This was even before Jaws 2020 came out and it was like this with Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 and nothing I did including completely uninstalling both versions, deleting all Jaws folders and reinstalling would fix it. At the same time I had another almost identical computer at my business with very similar hardware and all worked fine. Finally I read a post somewhere where another user had the same problem and somehow they either found out or were told to check if a particular item in the group policy editor in Windows 10 Pro was enabled. I checked the same setting and it was disabled on this particular computer, I have no idea why or how, but it was and as soon as I enabled it all worked perfectly. Narrator, by the way, worked just fine in the Settings app, start menu and calculator, it was just Jaws which had the problem and the problem which fixed the issue had nothing to do with Jaws, but was simply a Windows setting. I mentioned this because it shows how sometimes a problem with Jaws can be extremely specific to one system and be caused by something which is directly not even related to Jaws. I am convinced that if I had wiped the system and reinstalled Windows this would have also fixed the problem, but this happened to be on the PC we use as the main register at my retail store and there is other software on this system which is not quite so easy to reinstall so for the longest time I just put up with it and used Narrator if I wanted to do something in the Settings, I hardly ever use the start menu anyways and when I needed to calculate something I'd just open up Excel instead of using the Calculator. This way I could work around the problem, but it was sure nice when it turned out to be such a simple fix which took me all of 30 seconds to make. Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hi, Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10. Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything. Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and take the bugs out of it. God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet. Pat -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software. I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure! -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus .
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Re: browsers
Brave is an excellent choice, and its built in ad blocking and privacy features make it ideal for a screen reader user.
You can do a web search on whatever browser it is you want to download, along with the word download, and it's almost certain to be the first result returned. Brave, the Chrome browser, and new Chromium-based Edge are all based on Chromium, and, thus, are very, very similar to use. If you know one of them well, you know at least 90%, if not more, of what you need to know to jump in to the others. Waterfox is a spin-off of Firefox. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Denise J Moses
Do you think Waterfox or Brave would be a good start to change browsers since I am still using Internet Explorer? Where do I download these browsers? Are there tutorials to learn them? Should I also learn Chrome? Thank you. Denise
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Richard Turner
APH is not known for updating software so probably the same for the program, however, since it is a very basic program, with some very good features, it is worth giving the free trial a spin. I checked it out about a year ago and it worked fine on Windows 10. The manual is still helpful since they haven’t updated the software either. You may be surprised how well it works.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jenni Kent
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:41 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
The manual for that hasn’t been updated in a decade. How long has it been for the software?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Corrected link to Money Talks download page at APH: https://www.aph.org/product/money-talks-bank-account-management-software-digital-download/ Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Loy <loyrg2845@...>
I use Money Talks and it works well for me with JAWS.
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From: "Jenni Kent" <jennipalmer@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not. I got a page not found with that link. Trying quickbooks.
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
You are right and I just saw the price of the scripts with training stuff its $275 for that alone. Um hi quicken I didn’t want quicken again so give me more money back again today. Yeah free trial my behind.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
That's a hundred bucks every year. That's expensive in my opinion.
----- Original Message ----- From: Jenni Kent Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Just got it for $25 for three months. They have a cheap plan to start.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Quick Books will not meet the pricing limit you have.
Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Because I am running win ten on a 64 bit system and I want to make sure I don’t have to set my display to something strange. Also something like that may need an update but I will try it if it runs. My optimism is waining.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:
I don't know, and nor do I care. There is a free demo you can download to see if it meets your needs or not. That's your work to do, not for others to do. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Glenn / Lenny
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That's a hundred bucks every year.
That's expensive in my opinion.
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From: Jenni Kent
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap
and accessible! quicken sure was not. Just got it for $25 for three months. They have a cheap plan to start.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Quick Books will not meet the pricing limit you have.
Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."
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On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:
The manual for that hasn’t been updated in a decade. How long has it been for the software?I don't know, and nor do I care. There is a free demo you can download to see if it meets your needs or not. That's your work to do, not for others to do. And, please, for the love of heaven, stop using a new, weird font with each and every passing message. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
The manual for that hasn’t been updated in a decade. How long has it been for the software?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:31 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Corrected link to Money Talks download page at APH: https://www.aph.org/product/money-talks-bank-account-management-software-digital-download/ Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Just got it for $25 for three months. They have a cheap plan to start.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Quick Books will not meet the pricing limit you have.
Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Mario
thanks Richard.
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From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Saturday, May 2, 2020, 12:27 PM Subject: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not. Try this one https://www.aph.org/product/money-talks-bank-account-management-software-digital-download/ Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Jenni Kent <jennipalmer@gmail.com> wrote: I got a page not found with that link. Trying quickbooks. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not. Jenni, here's the solution that might be what you're looking for: Money Talks is a completely accessible bank account management software package developed by American Printing House (APH). This software package offers the user a simple and effective means of recording and maintaining accurate information for a variety of accounts. The user can import and use electronic banking information to reconcile accounts, remember the last workspace used in the program, emboss or print the check register in a variety of formats, and print many types of bank checks. Can be used with a screen reader or with its own self-voicing feature. https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fshop.aph.org%2Fwebapp%2Fwcs%2Fstores%2Fservlet%2FProduct_MoneyTalks%3ABankAccountManagementSoftware_1146012P_10001_11051&;amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C6a35c5151333421fac5008d7eeb518b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637240333872284300&sdata=e%2F34kUzPdBRDNjhaMvP1E8EfaE0DR1Fp0UPa99sSS9I%3D&reserved=0 -------- Original Message -------- From: Jenni Kent [mailto:jennipalmer@gmail.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Saturday, May 2, 2020, 12:00 PM Subject: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not. Where do I get that and how much does it cost. I am on an extreme budget. And was hoping for fifty and under. I will and grab those scripts -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not. Quickbooks can do what you want, although you do need scripts from myblindspot.com and its not perfect, even then, but it should work, and although I have not used it, the online version is supposed to be more accessible. On Sat, 02 May 2020 11:37:18 -0400, Jenni Kent wrote: [1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>] Hi, I want software for money management where a I can connect to my online banking b its not a hundred bucks a year forty is nice c it actually works with jaws and doesn't have outdated scripts from 2003. My story begins yesterday when I looked for excel templates those just weren't for me. I am not good with excel I just don't know how to operate it with jaws. I will be honest. So I got a tip on an offer for quicken. I grab it for thirty percent off on quicken deluxe. Forty bucks later I discover that the program is less than forth coming in the accessibility department and that's with nvda and jaws 2020 this morning I requested a reason for this and they asked me what a screen reader was. I almost cried but then explained. They said there was nothing they could do and would I like a refund. I said yes. Because I am sorry that is so not cool. So I beg of you do yall know of anything that will do what I seek let me get stuff from my bank automatically and track when bills are due and the like oh and quicken wouldn't even open a qfx file which it apparently used to open yeah I am not happy right now. Please help me I suck at keeping this budget in my head. Jennifer Kent iMessage: lightsrage@icloud.com <mailto:lightsrage@icloud.com> Skype: lightsrage Whatsapp: Ask. Telegram: ask Twitter: lights_rage Facebook: https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Flights_rage&;amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C6a35c5151333421fac5008d7eeb518b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637240333872284300&sdata=r9VZdYJ1aPgAtX9vFNlWL%2FTqdYlTDWPlsEkXvKYAOgc%3D&reserved=0 [2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com .
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Mario
Sieghard, could you tell us what the group policy item was, or point to the post? I'm curious as to what it might have been.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 16:54 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hello Pat, I don't wan to minimize the issues you had, but Jaws 2020 has been out for over 6 months and while there will always be certain configurations and systems with various issues, these may not always be 100% the fault of Jaws. I, for example, had one computer where for over a year I could not use any of the Windows apps like Calculator and in addition to that Jaws would read absolutely nothing in the start menu or the Settings app. I could open Settings and when somebody checked I was told visually everything was fine, I could right arrow and down arrow and focus would move, I could press enter and whatever category I was on opened up and so on, but Jaws was absolutely silent. This was even before Jaws 2020 came out and it was like this with Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 and nothing I did including completely uninstalling both versions, deleting all Jaws folders and reinstalling would fix it. At the same time I had another almost identical computer at my business with very similar hardware and all worked fine. Finally I read a post somewhere where another user had the same problem and somehow they either found out or were told to check if a particular item in the group policy editor in Windows 10 Pro was enabled. I checked the same setting and it was disabled on this particular computer, I have no idea why or how, but it was and as soon as I enabled it all worked perfectly. Narrator, by the way, worked just fine in the Settings app, start menu and calculator, it was just Jaws which had the problem and the problem which fixed the issue had nothing to do with Jaws, but was simply a Windows setting. I mentioned this because it shows how sometimes a problem with Jaws can be extremely specific to one system and be caused by something which is directly not even related to Jaws. I am convinced that if I had wiped the system and reinstalled Windows this would have also fixed the problem, but this happened to be on the PC we use as the main register at my retail store and there is other software on this system which is not quite so easy to reinstall so for the longest time I just put up with it and used Narrator if I wanted to do something in the Settings, I hardly ever use the start menu anyways and when I needed to calculate something I'd just open up Excel instead of using the Calculator. This way I could work around the problem, but it was sure nice when it turned out to be such a simple fix which took me all of 30 seconds to make. Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hi, Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10. Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything. Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and take the bugs out of it. God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet. Pat -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software. I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure! -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus .
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Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Patrick Murphy
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Yes, it seems to work now. I had to restart my computer after installing ms edge. It didn't ask me to do this, but i thought "what the hell". Once i restarted, ms edge magically started doing what it is supposed to. Regards, Pat
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 17:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit I just tried this on the main Google page where I first looked for something to search for. I saw a link called "Stay home save lives". I then went to the top of the page, pressed Control + F and typed "Stay" and after pressing enter Jaws went right away to that link. Having said this, I noticed Jaws said "Jaws search" when I pressed Control + F, but II usually use Control + Shift + F to bring up the Jaws Find dialogue. It may work the same on a web page, but in Adobe Reader for example, Control + F bring up the Adobe find dialogue and not the Jaws Find dialogue and I have better luck with the Jaws Find. Which version of Edge do you use? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hi Sieghard I take your point, that there can be other things effecting jaws. However, I feel lately, that there is a lot of things that freedom scientific are not testing. You may have been lucky with this, as you had access to the group policy editor in windows pro. As you know, this is not available in windows home. Another thing I have discovered for example, is that in the new Microsoft chrome edge, try the following. Press ctrl+f to enter the find box. Try to type something that you know is on the page. You will not find it. Press close on the diagolue box. Now using the f3 key to enter jaws find. Jaws will say that the item cannot be found. This new edge is only out. Surely, someone testing this with jaws in freedom scientific discovered this? If not why? Regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 16:54 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hello Pat, I don't wan to minimize the issues you had, but Jaws 2020 has been out for over 6 months and while there will always be certain configurations and systems with various issues, these may not always be 100% the fault of Jaws. I, for example, had one computer where for over a year I could not use any of the Windows apps like Calculator and in addition to that Jaws would read absolutely nothing in the start menu or the Settings app. I could open Settings and when somebody checked I was told visually everything was fine, I could right arrow and down arrow and focus would move, I could press enter and whatever category I was on opened up and so on, but Jaws was absolutely silent. This was even before Jaws 2020 came out and it was like this with Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 and nothing I did including completely uninstalling both versions, deleting all Jaws folders and reinstalling would fix it. At the same time I had another almost identical computer at my business with very similar hardware and all worked fine. Finally I read a post somewhere where another user had the same problem and somehow they either found out or were told to check if a particular item in the group policy editor in Windows 10 Pro was enabled. I checked the same setting and it was disabled on this particular computer, I have no idea why or how, but it was and as soon as I enabled it all worked perfectly. Narrator, by the way, worked just fine in the Settings app, start menu and calculator, it was just Jaws which had the problem and the problem which fixed the issue had nothing to do with Jaws, but was simply a Windows setting. I mentioned this because it shows how sometimes a problem with Jaws can be extremely specific to one system and be caused by something which is directly not even related to Jaws. I am convinced that if I had wiped the system and reinstalled Windows this would have also fixed the problem, but this happened to be on the PC we use as the main register at my retail store and there is other software on this system which is not quite so easy to reinstall so for the longest time I just put up with it and used Narrator if I wanted to do something in the Settings, I hardly ever use the start menu anyways and when I needed to calculate something I'd just open up Excel instead of using the Calculator. This way I could work around the problem, but it was sure nice when it turned out to be such a simple fix which took me all of 30 seconds to make. Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hi, Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10. Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything. Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and take the bugs out of it. God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet. Pat -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software. I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure! -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Corrected link to Money Talks download page at APH: https://www.aph.org/product/money-talks-bank-account-management-software-digital-download/
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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