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artiva system

Donald Nelson <dnelson1175@...>
 

I am looking for anyone that has knnowledge of the artiva system
software. I am in a position where I may be getting a job with a
company that uses this system. Any information on this system would be
helpful.
Thanks,
Don

Re: [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws 12

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Dave.

This is very helpful.

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke. Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

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Re: [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 toJaws 12

Dave Durber
 

Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically assign
CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke. Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

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Re: What to do about XP machines

Charles Coe
 

Tom,
I would stay with what versions of JAWS works well with your XP computers.
In other words, If it works don't fix it!

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:28 AM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: What to do about XP machines

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12, possibly because it is more
directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still use XP Pro, and the warnings on
this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even though my SMA
entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all
completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine, and
still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and that
too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now on
the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared
more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my
remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7 laptop
the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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Re: Question on activation count

Dave Durber
 

Adi:

When I purchased my dongle, it was $45.00 US. The price may have gone up since then.

Sincerely:

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adi Kushnir" <adikushnir@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Can some one check with FS and tell us here how the price would be if
pearchising a dongle instead of an ILM license?
I have a dongle because this is the only option with the Hebrew version of
JFW in Israel but I'm not limited to activations and the dongle could be
used with any JAWS version/language.
I can transfer the dongle freely from one computer to the other without
anything.

Thank you,

Adi.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 2:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The
people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a
zillion computers. This is absurd. Any blind computer user who owns more

than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the
unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as
well.

I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan



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What to do about XP machines

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7 laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan

Re: Question on activation count

Dave Durber
 

Peter:

Your idea, would not be of any use to those of us who travel a great deal and use a PackMate or a laptop because, the IP address would constantly change.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


In my case I haven't had as many activations as FS claims. I only use JAWS on both of my PCs and no where else. The only times I've had activations has been when I've restored my PC back and fitted new hardware. Some of the times I've restored my PC back has been due to issues with JAWS and trying to resolve them. A more sensible approach from FS would be to have JAWS send once a day a message to FS giving the IP address of the computer then they would be able to see that it was being used in the location it was intended for and wouldn't be an issue. For those who don't want FS to have that information they can just remain as they are.

We pay a lot of money for the software to say the least. I appreciate FS want to protect themselves from piracy but I am sure that such a strict policy on activations is what has caused some to go down the route of piracy (mine is a fully paid for version and I do not condone piracy in the slightest).

Peter

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The
people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a
zillion computers. This is absurd. Any blind computer user who owns more
than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as
well.

I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.

Thanks!

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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...>
 

It is a travesty , Freedom Scientific is proofing everytime that's they do care about their wealth expansion much more than the customer satisfaction



Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian and Denise Albriton" <autoharp@...>
To: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
Cc: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


I think you made a good choice. Twelve seems to be pretty abysmal with xp.


On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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Re: Convert Kindel Books Programs!

Ben Humphreys <brh@...>
 

I believe I got this method to work previously but only after upgrading from Kindle for PC version 1.01b to at least 1.3. I also had to upgrade the sconvert program and possibly point scripts at the correct location for Kindle.info.

After about 8 hours of experimentation, I got the Kindle book converted to HTML and began happily reading with JAWS.

Then I discovered that Bookshare had the same book available without any of the fuss. Best $50 I ever spent!

This was a few months ago so I can't remember all the details. If there is sufficient interest, I'll write something up.

Ben

At 01:39 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:
Could you provide me with this tool?

-----Original Message----- From: brandonboy13@...
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 1:01 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Convert Kindel Books Programs!

Here are the programs one needs to convirt Kindle books to an HTML file. Download the file from the download link, either save then right-click to extract, or save it and extract to the folder of choice and open the "Instructions.txt" file.
There you will find detailed instructions on how to convert both kinds of Kindle books.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
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Re: Question on activation count

Dave Durber
 

Gerald:

Who are people like you to say how many computers an individual should own or not. For your current personal needs, you have decided that you only need one computer. So, that is fine for you.

Why a particular person needs to use more than one computer, in order to perform the functions of their job or, to run a business, is none of yours or, anybody else's business. Neither should an individual have to justify to you or, anybody else, why they need to use more than one computer, in order for them to be able to perform those functions.

If you had bothered to read the JAWS license Agreement, you would have discovered, under the section titled, "COPYING THE PROGRAM", the last sentence of the first paragraph reads,

*** beginning quotation from Jaws License Agreement ***

The Licensee may install and use the program on more than one machine, but only one machine may be used at a time.

*** End quotation from Jaws License Agreement ***

It is Freedom Scientific, which has decided that up to three activation codes are granted to an individual user. This has not been specifically stated in the JAWS License Agreement. Freedom Scientific has granted this number of activation codes for a personal licensed user, as a discretion, not a right. So, therefore, Freedom Scientific, can and may, vary this count, with, or without notice.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count



Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers. This is absurd. Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as
well.

I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan



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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Adrian Spratt
 

This is an incentive to skip one or two bad versions. Good information.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


I just checked the FS web site, and found out that they charge $400 to
upgrade to JAWS 12 from JAWS 8 or earleer, plus an additional $200 if you
want the professional version.

http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/jawssma.htm

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian and Denise Albriton" <autoharp@...>
To: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
Cc: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


I think you made a good choice. Twelve seems to be pretty abysmal with xp.


On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA
at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS
12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP
Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

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On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
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Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Gerald Levy
 

I just checked the FS web site, and found out that they charge $400 to upgrade to JAWS 12 from JAWS 8 or earleer, plus an additional $200 if you want the professional version.

http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/jawssma.htm

Gerald

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From: "Brian and Denise Albriton" <autoharp@...>
To: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
Cc: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


I think you made a good choice. Twelve seems to be pretty abysmal with xp.


On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Brian and Denise Albriton <autoharp@...>
 

I think you made a good choice. Twelve seems to be pretty abysmal with xp.

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Gerald Levy
 

Full price! You mean FS doesn't even give you a break if you are already a loyal JAWS user? So somebody who is using an older version of JAWS like JAWS 7 or 8 would pay the same $1000 for JAWS 12 as somebody who has never used JAWS before? This just doesn't seem fair.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

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On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
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Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi, I just got the jaws 12 demo and have 6.2 now. When I spoke with Fredom
last week, they told me that it would cost $400.00 to get the full version
of 12. Please keep in mind that I never had the contract, I don't know if
that makes a difference. Andy and Shubert

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Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
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Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Adrian Spratt
 

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Brian and Denise Albriton <autoharp@...>
 

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.

Re: one more Jaws Activation question

Dave Durber
 

Tom:

No it does not.

In other words, if you purchased JAWS 12 and/or you purchased an SMA at the same time or, you have an SMA which covers JAWS 12 or beyond, The installation count will not be affected when you install a later version of JAWS, than the one you are currently using.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:12 AM
Subject: one more Jaws Activation question


Hello again, everyone.

I successfully convinced the folks at FS to re-set my activation count back to 3, so it looks like I am now all set in that regard.

However, I have one more question about the activation process:

If I upgrade from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12 on a computer that already has Jaws 11, does the upgrade count against my number of available activations? In other words, each time I upgrade from Jaws 11 to 12, do I loose an activation?

Thanks!

Tom in Michigan



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Re: baseball scores with Research It

Howard <hwolcott@...>
 

hi:
nothing!!
researchit for all sports scores is broken.
and it looks like it won't be fixed, either.

howard wolcott

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From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:08 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: baseball scores with Research It

What do I enter in the list box to get baseball scores? I tried Cubs, then chicago, and then blank, tabbed to MLB scores, and got no results.

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Re: Accessible software with JAWS there can read information about wireless network

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

Not sure if this will work, but it's worth a try;


Putting icons back into the SystemTray.


Here are some steps I wrote quite a while ago, regarding this topic to
another list.

try these steps to get your network icon back into the system tray.

1, start menu;

2, setting/control panel;

3, t= taskbar and start menu, press enter.
If your using Xp, you just need to tab until you hear,
hide inactive icons, the box should be unchecked, so press spacebar to check

this box.
you will now see customize dialog button. The next 3 steps are for vista
users.
4, shift tab one time, you should hear,
taskbar tab.
5, right arrow until you hear;
Notification area tab.
6, tab one time you should hear;
Hide inactive icons this is unchecked, press spacebar to check.
7, tab enter on,
Icons customize....
8, now, down arrow until you hear,
Network connection,
right arrow, a combo box will open,
down arrow to show.
9, now tab, and enter on okay.

this should get your icon back into the system tray.
these same steps will apply, if you want to remove a icon from your system
tray.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:36 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: RE: Accessible software with JAWS there can read information about
wireless network

Hi again,

No, I can not see the network connection icon in the system tray.

What change should I make so I can see the network connection icon in the
system tray?

Very thanks.

Regards,
Anders
--- "David" Wrote ---
Hello do you see the network connection in system tray?


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