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moderated Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

Glenn / Lenny
 

tabbing usually sends you through other tool bars, that is why I shift + tab just once instead of multiple tabs.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

You can just tab.

 

From: Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

I think that will reload the page though.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:43 PM

Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

I usually just hit enter and it takes me back to the web page I was on before the command.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hi, Kevin. Try CONTROL plus F6.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of jaws2020, windows 10 and most recent version of Chrome. I’m on a site and moved to the address bar by pressing alt D. Now I cannot get off the address bar. Is there another key stroke to get off the address bar? Thanks Kevin


moderated Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

Don Mauck
 

You can just tab.

 

From: Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

I think that will reload the page though.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:43 PM

Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

I usually just hit enter and it takes me back to the web page I was on before the command.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hi, Kevin. Try CONTROL plus F6.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of jaws2020, windows 10 and most recent version of Chrome. I’m on a site and moved to the address bar by pressing alt D. Now I cannot get off the address bar. Is there another key stroke to get off the address bar? Thanks Kevin


moderated Re: Braille commands question

Marianne Denning
 

I want everyone to realize that the Orbit Reader was designed to be a reader rather than a display so it does not have many standard display  commands. It also does not have cursor routing keys.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Braille commands question

 

Oh, I hate to hear this as I'm waiting for my new  Orbit to arrive, hopefully on Friday. I can't believe there would not be such a basic keyboard command already mapped out.

I can do this on a Refreshabraille 18 display, but this display has  n extra key called the Aux space bar. I press this key, and dots 2 5 6, and this emulates an Alt+F4.

It may have also be possible on a BrailleNote MPower, but I can't remember the exact keys that were u sed.

~Ann



On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 09:41 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

On another list, a question was asked how to do alt+f4 from a braille display.

He has the Orbit, which doesn’t seem to have a command like that.

Do other braille displays have that ability.  At least the ability say to toggle the alt key, or control key to on then the ability to hit f4?

 

All information is welcome on any display so I can pass that information along.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 


moderated Re: Braille commands question

ann
 

Oh, I hate to hear this as I'm waiting for my new  Orbit to arrive, hopefully on Friday. I can't believe there would not be such a basic keyboard command already mapped out.

I can do this on a Refreshabraille 18 display, but this display has  n extra key called the Aux space bar. I press this key, and dots 2 5 6, and this emulates an Alt+F4.

It may have also be possible on a BrailleNote MPower, but I can't remember the exact keys that were u sed.

~Ann



On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 09:41 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

On another list, a question was asked how to do alt+f4 from a braille display.

He has the Orbit, which doesn’t seem to have a command like that.

Do other braille displays have that ability.  At least the ability say to toggle the alt key, or control key to on then the ability to hit f4?

 

All information is welcome on any display so I can pass that information along.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 


moderated Re: Latest JAWS 2020 and continued Outlook 2016 issues

Bill White
 

Hi, Jonathan. How do you turn off layout tables?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 2020 and continued Outlook 2016 issues

 

If the detect tables does not work, another possibility is that layout tables are causing you grief so make sure they are turned off.
Web sites have CSS in order to put text into columns and other cute layouts, but Mail generally ignores CSS functions for complex layout so designers end up using tables with multi row or multi column spans that can not effectively be read column by column row by row, so the screen reader ends up either reading things repetitively or else skipping important information.
  
Sometimes the mail will have a plain text alternative either in the same message or in a subscribe button. This of course brings its own problems.


moderated Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

Glenn / Lenny
 

I think that will reload the page though.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

I usually just hit enter and it takes me back to the web page I was on before the command.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hi, Kevin. Try CONTROL plus F6.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of jaws2020, windows 10 and most recent version of Chrome. I’m on a site and moved to the address bar by pressing alt D. Now I cannot get off the address bar. Is there another key stroke to get off the address bar? Thanks Kevin


moderated Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

Glenn / Lenny
 

I usually shift + tab to get back onto the page.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:50 AM
Subject: Used alt D to get to address bar

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of jaws2020, windows 10 and most recent version of Chrome. I’m on a site and moved to the address bar by pressing alt D. Now I cannot get off the address bar. Is there another key stroke to get off the address bar? Thanks Kevin


moderated Re: Select Google Chrome from desktop and stays on desktop

kevin meyers
 

I did call tech support at Freedom Scientific. The guy never heard of the problem with Google Chrome. We tried a couple of things and nothing worked. Then it started to work. Then it stopped working. The tech guy talked to his supervisor. We tried a number of things. It came down to either rebooting or going in out of Chrome or pressing alt D. Guy said he didn’t know if it was Google Chrome or Jaws causing the problem. He said I will just have to work around it. A little while later the problem occured again. This time nothing I did corrected the problem. I will send an email to support. I’m pretty sure I won’t hear anything. Now is that awesome support or what?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Select Google Chrome from desktop and stays on desktop

 

A perfect time to get in touch with Freedom Scientific tech support.  Even if the issue does lie with Chrome, you can be certain that it's probably not only you it's happened to.  Getting a "critical mass" of reports is what gets the ball rolling between companies such as Freedom Scientific and Google on issues such as this.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

Mario
 

I usually press shift+f6.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2020, 2:38 PM
Subject: Used alt D to get to address bar
Hi, Kevin. Try CONTROL plus F6.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*kevin meyers
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:51 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Used alt D to get to address bar

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of jaws2020, windows 10 and
most recent version of Chrome. I’m on a site and moved to the address
bar by pressing alt D. Now I cannot get off the address bar. Is there
another key stroke to get off the address bar? Thanks Kevin


moderated Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

Justin Williams
 

Or just f6. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

I usually just hit enter and it takes me back to the web page I was on before the command.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hi, Kevin. Try CONTROL plus F6.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of jaws2020, windows 10 and most recent version of Chrome. I’m on a site and moved to the address bar by pressing alt D. Now I cannot get off the address bar. Is there another key stroke to get off the address bar? Thanks Kevin


moderated Re: How can I get at Zoom's "Settings" et. al without being in an actual meeting?

Mario
 

I think if you created an account on the website before downloading/installing the client, you can explore the settings without joining a meeting. just log in and explore away.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@gmail.com]
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2020, 1:27 PM
Subject: How can I get at Zoom's "Settings" et. al without being in an actual meeting?
Hi!

I believe that I have properly installed the Zoom meeting app.  However,
when I start it my only options seem to be 1) join a meeting or 2)
sign-in.  What I would like to do is explore the app’s settings (e.g.,
accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts) and other options, but I do not seem
to be able to access this.  So, must you actually sign-in to an actual
meeting before you can access things like “Settings?”  How else can I
get at my Zoom app’s options?

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

Marianne Denning
 

I usually just hit enter and it takes me back to the web page I was on before the command.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hi, Kevin. Try CONTROL plus F6.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of jaws2020, windows 10 and most recent version of Chrome. I’m on a site and moved to the address bar by pressing alt D. Now I cannot get off the address bar. Is there another key stroke to get off the address bar? Thanks Kevin


moderated Re: Walmart delivery app

T. Civitello
 

Works pretty well for me. I have used it with Win 10 and Win 7 and used both IE and Edge.  Tom
 

Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:35 AM
Subject: Walmart delivery app
 

How accessible is the Walmart delivery on pc?

And, which browser should I use?

 

I have jaws 2019 with Windows 10.

 

I've got Chrome as my main browser, but would use IE, or redownload Mozilla is necessary.

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: Used alt D to get to address bar

Bill White
 

Hi, Kevin. Try CONTROL plus F6.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Used alt D to get to address bar

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of jaws2020, windows 10 and most recent version of Chrome. I’m on a site and moved to the address bar by pressing alt D. Now I cannot get off the address bar. Is there another key stroke to get off the address bar? Thanks Kevin


moderated Walmart delivery app

Justin Williams
 

How accessible is the Walmart delivery on pc?

And, which browser should I use?

 

I have jaws 2019 with Windows 10.

 

I've got Chrome as my main browser, but would use IE, or redownload Mozilla is necessary.

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Used alt D to get to address bar

kevin meyers
 

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of jaws2020, windows 10 and most recent version of Chrome. I’m on a site and moved to the address bar by pressing alt D. Now I cannot get off the address bar. Is there another key stroke to get off the address bar? Thanks Kevin


moderated Re: How can I get at Zoom's "Settings" et. al without being in an actual meeting?

Bill White
 

Hi, Richard. Try starting Zoom, then go to your system tray with Windows plus B or JAWS key plus F11, find the entry for Zoom, and press ENTER. This should bring up a context menu with a menu entry for Settings. Press ENTER on Settings.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:28 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How can I get at Zoom's "Settings" et. al without being in an actual meeting?

 

Hi!

 

I believe that I have properly installed the Zoom meeting app.  However, when I start it my only options seem to be 1) join a meeting or 2) sign-in.  What I would like to do is explore the app’s settings (e.g., accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts) and other options, but I do not seem to be able to access this.  So, must you actually sign-in to an actual meeting before you can access things like “Settings?”  How else can I get at my Zoom app’s options?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: How can I get at Zoom's "Settings" et. al without being in an actual meeting?

Don Walls
 

Why not download Jonathan Mosne’s manual, at present free for the asking?
 

From: Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How can I get at Zoom's "Settings" et. al without being in an actual meeting?
 

Hi!

 

I believe that I have properly installed the Zoom meeting app.  However, when I start it my only options seem to be 1) join a meeting or 2) sign-in.  What I would like to do is explore the app’s settings (e.g., accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts) and other options, but I do not seem to be able to access this.  So, must you actually sign-in to an actual meeting before you can access things like “Settings?”  How else can I get at my Zoom app’s options?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated How can I get at Zoom's "Settings" et. al without being in an actual meeting?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I believe that I have properly installed the Zoom meeting app.  However, when I start it my only options seem to be 1) join a meeting or 2) sign-in.  What I would like to do is explore the app’s settings (e.g., accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts) and other options, but I do not seem to be able to access this.  So, must you actually sign-in to an actual meeting before you can access things like “Settings?”  How else can I get at my Zoom app’s options?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Latest JAWS 2020 and continued Outlook 2016 issues

Cohn, Jonathan
 

If the detect tables does not work, another possibility is that layout tables are causing you grief so make sure they are turned off.
Web sites have CSS in order to put text into columns and other cute layouts, but Mail generally ignores CSS functions for complex layout so designers end up using tables with multi row or multi column spans that can not effectively be read column by column row by row, so the screen reader ends up either reading things repetitively or else skipping important information.
  
Sometimes the mail will have a plain text alternative either in the same message or in a subscribe button. This of course brings its own problems.

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