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Re: Question on activation count
Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...>
In my case I haven't had as many activations as FS claims. I only use JAWS on both of my PCs and no where else. The only times I've had activations has been when I've restored my PC back and fitted new hardware. Some of the times I've restored my PC back has been due to issues with JAWS and trying to resolve them. A more sensible approach from FS would be to have JAWS send once a day a message to FS giving the IP address of the computer then they would be able to see that it was being used in the location it was intended for and wouldn't be an issue. For those who don't want FS to have that information they can just remain as they are.
We pay a lot of money for the software to say the least. I appreciate FS want to protect themselves from piracy but I am sure that such a strict policy on activations is what has caused some to go down the route of piracy (mine is a fully paid for version and I do not condone piracy in the slightest).
Peter
Peter
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-----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Question on activation count Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers. This is absurd. Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: RE: Question on activation count Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count
Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count
That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count
Hello there;
No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count
Hi, all.
I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.
I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.
Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?
I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and
am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as well.
I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.
Thanks!
Tom from Michigan
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Re: Question on activation count
Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers. This is absurd. Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.
Gerald
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: RE: Question on activation count Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count
Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count
That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count
Hello there;
No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count
Hi, all.
I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.
I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.
Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?
I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and
am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as well.
I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.
Thanks!
Tom from Michigan
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Re: one more Jaws Activation question
That's what I thought, but it's good to get confirmation.
I appreciate the quick reply.
Tom Behler in Michigan
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Davidson" <shane@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:11 AM Subject: RE: one more Jaws Activation question Tom;
Upgrading between jaws versions doesn't count against your activations.
HTH.
Shane
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:12 AM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: one more Jaws Activation question
Hello again, everyone.
I successfully convinced the folks at FS to re-set my activation count back
to 3, so it looks like I am now all set in that regard.
However, I have one more question about the activation process:
If I upgrade from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12 on a computer that already has Jaws 11,
does the upgrade count against my number of available activations? In other
words, each time I upgrade from Jaws 11 to 12, do I loose an activation?
Thanks!
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Re: one more Jaws Activation question
Shane Davidson <shane@...>
Tom;
Upgrading between jaws versions doesn't count against your activations.
HTH.
Shane
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:12 AM To: Jaws users e-mail list Subject: one more Jaws Activation question Hello again, everyone. I successfully convinced the folks at FS to re-set my activation count back to 3, so it looks like I am now all set in that regard. However, I have one more question about the activation process: If I upgrade from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12 on a computer that already has Jaws 11, does the upgrade count against my number of available activations? In other words, each time I upgrade from Jaws 11 to 12, do I loose an activation? Thanks! Tom in Michigan _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12
Hi, again.
I just thought of one more question here.
What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12 from Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?
I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier upgrades, and can't remember how to resolve it.
All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut over to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.
I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.
Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.
Tom in Michigan
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one more Jaws Activation question
Hello again, everyone.
I successfully convinced the folks at FS to re-set my activation count back to 3, so it looks like I am now all set in that regard.
However, I have one more question about the activation process:
If I upgrade from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12 on a computer that already has Jaws 11, does the upgrade count against my number of available activations? In other words, each time I upgrade from Jaws 11 to 12, do I loose an activation?
Thanks!
Tom in Michigan
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: August 20, 2011 1:47 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk][Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk]Try Again - What!? Mr. Lawrence, What? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 21:24 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count is jaws thought it was the email client of the user -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:35 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count Ken, Dave Carlson gave you clear instructions on how to stop JAWS from verbalizing "bulk" in this context. Yes, it's annoying, but no one's intentionally doing it to you and the fix is so simple. As he later says, go ahead and have your ISP reject these messages as spam. You'll miss a lot of good advice, but maybe for you that 's a small price. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ken Lawrence Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count got a question. with tghe3 word bulk in message after message, should I start reporting all jaws messages that aren't a concern as spam or junk mail? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count Well thanks, Peter. I sure hope you're right! Tom in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count If you haven't had many reset requests you'll be fine.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Well, Peter, I just completed the activation re-set form, so will
hopefully learn the outcome soon.
I am a bit distressed about FS's approach to the activation issue, since
we
all paid good money for various versions of Jaws over the years, but I
guess
that's the name of the game in the softwre design world today.
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
I used to do it over the website but FS once advised me that since I'm in
the UK, taking in to account time difference, public holidays etc it would be best to contact my local distributor Sight and Sound. The last time
Sight and Sound went to reset my activations they were told by FS that
they couldn't do it. I then rang FS from the UK and had a debate with the
person on the helpdesk and she reset my activation but only to 1, not 3.
I'm finding so much more that NVDA is working better with than JAWS that
now I really won't be upgrading any further with JAWS after my SMA runs
out. I also intend to take up all my issues with FS.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Peter:
Are you trying to re-set your activation count via the web site, or over
the
phone?
I'm about to embark on this process myself, out of necessity, so a
curious
mind wants to know. (smile)
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Hmm, they have now refused to reset mine to more than one at a time.
They claim I have had 33 activations in a few months. Can't think where
they get that figure from and very annoying. I'm in the process of
raising it as a complaint. They tried to sell me a dongle licence
instead.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
They are nice, but don't ask more than once every few months. If you're
down
to 1 they will sometimes bump you back up to 3. But no more than 3.
Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 17:36
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS when
it
comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count
Hello there;
No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count
Hi, all.
I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.
I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer
from the list.
Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself have
a
given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws, or is
the
allotted number of 3 activations constant across all versions of Jaws
collectively?
I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home,
and
am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older
Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as well.
I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably
use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work with.
Thanks!
Tom from Michigan
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 21:24 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count is jaws thought it was the email client of the user -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:35 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count Ken, Dave Carlson gave you clear instructions on how to stop JAWS from verbalizing "bulk" in this context. Yes, it's annoying, but no one's intentionally doing it to you and the fix is so simple. As he later says, go ahead and have your ISP reject these messages as spam. You'll miss a lot of good advice, but maybe for you that 's a small price. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ken Lawrence Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count got a question. with tghe3 word bulk in message after message, should I start reporting all jaws messages that aren't a concern as spam or junk mail? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count Well thanks, Peter. I sure hope you're right! Tom in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count If you haven't had many reset requests you'll be fine.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Well, Peter, I just completed the activation re-set form, so will
hopefully learn the outcome soon.
I am a bit distressed about FS's approach to the activation issue, since
we
all paid good money for various versions of Jaws over the years, but I
guess
that's the name of the game in the softwre design world today.
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
I used to do it over the website but FS once advised me that since I'm in
the UK, taking in to account time difference, public holidays etc it would be best to contact my local distributor Sight and Sound. The last time
Sight and Sound went to reset my activations they were told by FS that
they couldn't do it. I then rang FS from the UK and had a debate with the
person on the helpdesk and she reset my activation but only to 1, not 3.
I'm finding so much more that NVDA is working better with than JAWS that
now I really won't be upgrading any further with JAWS after my SMA runs
out. I also intend to take up all my issues with FS.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Peter:
Are you trying to re-set your activation count via the web site, or over
the
phone?
I'm about to embark on this process myself, out of necessity, so a
curious
mind wants to know. (smile)
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Hmm, they have now refused to reset mine to more than one at a time.
They claim I have had 33 activations in a few months. Can't think where
they get that figure from and very annoying. I'm in the process of
raising it as a complaint. They tried to sell me a dongle licence
instead.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
They are nice, but don't ask more than once every few months. If you're
down
to 1 they will sometimes bump you back up to 3. But no more than 3.
Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 17:36
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS when
it
comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count
Hello there;
No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count
Hi, all.
I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.
I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer
from the list.
Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself have
a
given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws, or is
the
allotted number of 3 activations constant across all versions of Jaws
collectively?
I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home,
and
am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older
Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as well.
I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably
use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work with.
Thanks!
Tom from Michigan
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As was already said, this isn't a topic appropriate for the list. Blindtech
might be a more appropriate venue for a question of this nature. The
subscription info can be provided if required.
James,
List Admin
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Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
Not much to do with Jaws, but Host Gator are fair, comprehensive and very large.
I have a smaller company building, maintaining and hosting my site though, Evratech Industries. You can check out their Website at
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Re: [Bulk] Question on activation count
is jaws thought it was the email client of the user
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-----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:35 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count Ken, Dave Carlson gave you clear instructions on how to stop JAWS from verbalizing "bulk" in this context. Yes, it's annoying, but no one's intentionally doing it to you and the fix is so simple. As he later says, go ahead and have your ISP reject these messages as spam. You'll miss a lot of good advice, but maybe for you that 's a small price. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ken Lawrence Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count got a question. with tghe3 word bulk in message after message, should I start reporting all jaws messages that aren't a concern as spam or junk mail? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count Well thanks, Peter. I sure hope you're right! Tom in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count If you haven't had many reset requests you'll be fine.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Well, Peter, I just completed the activation re-set form, so will
hopefully learn the outcome soon.
I am a bit distressed about FS's approach to the activation issue, since
we
all paid good money for various versions of Jaws over the years, but I
guess
that's the name of the game in the softwre design world today.
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
I used to do it over the website but FS once advised me that since I'm in
the UK, taking in to account time difference, public holidays etc it would be best to contact my local distributor Sight and Sound. The last time
Sight and Sound went to reset my activations they were told by FS that
they couldn't do it. I then rang FS from the UK and had a debate with the
person on the helpdesk and she reset my activation but only to 1, not 3.
I'm finding so much more that NVDA is working better with than JAWS that
now I really won't be upgrading any further with JAWS after my SMA runs
out. I also intend to take up all my issues with FS.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Peter:
Are you trying to re-set your activation count via the web site, or over
the
phone?
I'm about to embark on this process myself, out of necessity, so a
curious
mind wants to know. (smile)
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Hmm, they have now refused to reset mine to more than one at a time.
They claim I have had 33 activations in a few months. Can't think where
they get that figure from and very annoying. I'm in the process of
raising it as a complaint. They tried to sell me a dongle licence
instead.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
They are nice, but don't ask more than once every few months. If you're
down
to 1 they will sometimes bump you back up to 3. But no more than 3.
Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 17:36
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS when
it
comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count
Hello there;
No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count
Hi, all.
I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.
I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer
from the list.
Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself have
a
given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws, or is
the
allotted number of 3 activations constant across all versions of Jaws
collectively?
I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home,
and
am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older
Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as well.
I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably
use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work with.
Thanks!
Tom from Michigan
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Re: [Bulk] Question on activation count
Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
Ken, make a simple addition to dictionary manager and your problem is solved. Sheesh.
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Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
Hi Kim,
Another thing you can try in this situation is invoking the keystroke, Jaws
Key + Z. This toggles the virtual cursor key between off & auto. This is
only a suggestion. I am not sure if this will help, but is worth a try.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Loftis To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10? Hi Adrian and Mike, Well, unfortunately, Mike, your method didn't work for me... yes, applications mode would, in fact, go off, but keeps coming back on the next time I try to move my cursor or enter a key command. Thanks so much for trying, though! I really appreciate it. *smile* Adrian, I sadly must agree with you regarding inconsistent methods here... I've tried everything, but to no real avail. I appreciate knowing that 11 seems to illiminate this issue, at least for you... very good to know. I apppreciate hearing about your experiences... they mirror mine, at least as far as Jaws 10 goes. Anyway, thanks so much! Warmest, Kim -------------------------------------------------- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:30 PM To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Subject: RE: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10? > Kim and Mike, > > I hope this method works on these websites. When I used JAWS 10, I found > solutions inconsistent. On Yahoo Finance, for example, I had to locate the > toggle link for applications mode to turn it off. > > For me, the problem was completely eliminated in JAWS 11. I can't speak for > all webpages, but I've never encountered applications mode after JAWS 10. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] > On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara In Arcadia > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:56 PM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10? > > Hi Kim, > > You can disregard my last reply. I found some laptop keystrokes in my > notes. They are below. What you want is the first 1. > > Laptop commands > > find the laptop keys for jaws > > > > PC Cursor > > CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON > > > > JAWS Cursor > > CAPS LOCK+P > > > > Invisible Cursor > > CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly > > > > Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor > > CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE > > > > Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor > > CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET > > > > Restrict JAWS Cursor > > CAPS LOCK+R > > > > Left Mouse Button > > CAPS LOCK+8 > > > > Right Mouse Button > > CAPS LOCK+9 > > > > Left Mouse Button Lock > > CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8 > > > > Right Mouse Button Lock > > CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9 > > > > Drag and Drop > > CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8 > > > > Say Active Cursor > > ALT+DELETE > > > > Mouse Down > > ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW > > > > Mouse Left > > ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW > > > > Mouse Right > > ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW > > > > Mouse Up > > ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW > > > > press capslock and P > > will switch to the jaws cursor > > press capslock and semi colon to switch back to the PC cursor. > > > > Hope this helps. Take care. > > Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kim Loftis > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10? > > > Hi Mike, > > Many thanks for that info!! I'm using a laptop, though, so don't have a > separate number pad... any idea what the laptop keystroke may be? > > Thanks again! > > Warmest, > Kim > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:30 PM > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> > Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10? > > > Hi Kim, > > > > Application mode is invoked by JAWS because the page is coded as an > > application. This is done through HTML codes. Pressing numpad plus > brings > > you back to > > virtual mode and makes the page readable. Hope this helps. Take care. > > Mike > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kim Loftis > > To: jfw@... > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:19 PM > > Subject: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10? > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > On many pages using Jaws 10 and XP Pro, I'm running into the "app mode > on" > > message from Jaws. This is happening particularly with PayPal and on my > > Wordpress site dashboard when editing content there. 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Re: [Bulk] Question on activation count
got a question. with tghe3 word bulk in message after message, should I start reporting all jaws messages that aren't a concern as spam or junk mail?
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-----Original Message----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count Well thanks, Peter. I sure hope you're right! Tom in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count If you haven't had many reset requests you'll be fine.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Well, Peter, I just completed the activation re-set form, so will
hopefully learn the outcome soon.
I am a bit distressed about FS's approach to the activation issue, since we
all paid good money for various versions of Jaws over the years, but I guess
that's the name of the game in the softwre design world today.
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
I used to do it over the website but FS once advised me that since I'm in the UK, taking in to account time difference, public holidays etc it would be best to contact my local distributor Sight and Sound. The last time Sight and Sound went to reset my activations they were told by FS that they couldn't do it. I then rang FS from the UK and had a debate with the person on the helpdesk and she reset my activation but only to 1, not 3.
I'm finding so much more that NVDA is working better with than JAWS that now I really won't be upgrading any further with JAWS after my SMA runs out. I also intend to take up all my issues with FS.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Peter:
Are you trying to re-set your activation count via the web site, or over the
phone?
I'm about to embark on this process myself, out of necessity, so a curious
mind wants to know. (smile)
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Hmm, they have now refused to reset mine to more than one at a time. They claim I have had 33 activations in a few months. Can't think where they get that figure from and very annoying. I'm in the process of raising it as a complaint. They tried to sell me a dongle licence instead.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
They are nice, but don't ask more than once every few months. If you're down
to 1 they will sometimes bump you back up to 3. But no more than 3.
Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 17:36
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS when it
comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count
Hello there;
No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count
Hi, all.
I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.
I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer
from the list.
Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself have a
given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws, or is the
allotted number of 3 activations constant across all versions of Jaws
collectively?
I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and home,
and
am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an older
Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as well.
I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could probably
use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work with.
Thanks!
Tom from Michigan
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Re: Question on activation count
Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Question on activation count Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount increases. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM Subject: Re: Question on activation count That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count
Hello there;
No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count
Hi, all.
I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.
I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.
Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?
I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and
am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as well.
I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.
Thanks!
Tom from Michigan
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Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
Hi Adrian and Mike, Well, unfortunately, Mike, your method didn't work for me... yes, applications mode would, in fact, go off, but keeps coming back on the next time I try to move my cursor or enter a key command. Thanks so much for trying, though! I really appreciate it. *smile* Adrian, I sadly must agree with you regarding inconsistent methods here... I've tried everything, but to no real avail. I appreciate knowing that 11 seems to illiminate this issue, at least for you... very good to know. I apppreciate hearing about your experiences... they mirror mine, at least as far as Jaws 10 goes. Anyway, thanks so much! Warmest, Kim -------------------------------------------------- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:30 PM To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Subject: RE: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10? Kim and Mike,
I hope this method works on these websites. When I used JAWS 10, I found
solutions inconsistent. On Yahoo Finance, for example, I had to locate the
toggle link for applications mode to turn it off.
For me, the problem was completely eliminated in JAWS 11. I can't speak for
all webpages, but I've never encountered applications mode after JAWS 10.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara In Arcadia
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
Hi Kim,
You can disregard my last reply. I found some laptop keystrokes in my
notes. They are below. What you want is the first 1.
Laptop commands
find the laptop keys for jaws
PC Cursor
CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON
JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+P
Invisible Cursor
CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly
Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE
Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor
CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET
Restrict JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+R
Left Mouse Button
CAPS LOCK+8
Right Mouse Button
CAPS LOCK+9
Left Mouse Button Lock
CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8
Right Mouse Button Lock
CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9
Drag and Drop
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8
Say Active Cursor
ALT+DELETE
Mouse Down
ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
Mouse Left
ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW
Mouse Right
ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW
Mouse Up
ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW
press capslock and P
will switch to the jaws cursor
press capslock and semi colon to switch back to the PC cursor.
Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Kim Loftis
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
Hi Mike,
Many thanks for that info!! I'm using a laptop, though, so don't have a
separate number pad... any idea what the laptop keystroke may be?
Thanks again!
Warmest,
Kim
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From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:30 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
> Hi Kim,
>
> Application mode is invoked by JAWS because the page is coded as an
> application. This is done through HTML codes. Pressing numpad plus
brings
> you back to
> virtual mode and makes the page readable. Hope this helps. Take care.
> Mike
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kim Loftis
> To: jfw@...
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:19 PM
> Subject: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> On many pages using Jaws 10 and XP Pro, I'm running into the "app mode
on"
> message from Jaws. This is happening particularly with PayPal and on my
> Wordpress site dashboard when editing content there. When I run into
this
> issue, it's pretty much impossible to access a page and issue any
commands,
> enter any text, etc.
>
> Is there any way to keep "app mode" from appearing, even temporarily.
I
> desperately need to get these website pages edited, and this is giving
me a
> real headache.
>
> Any tips, suggestions or fixes would be tremendously appreciated!
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Warmest,
> Kim
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Re: [Bulk] Question on activation count
Ken,
Dave Carlson gave you clear instructions on how to stop JAWS from
verbalizing "bulk" in this context. Yes, it's annoying, but no one's
intentionally doing it to you and the fix is so simple.
As he later says, go ahead and have your ISP reject these messages as spam.
You'll miss a lot of good advice, but maybe for you that 's a small price.
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-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ken Lawrence Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count got a question. with tghe3 word bulk in message after message, should I start reporting all jaws messages that aren't a concern as spam or junk mail? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count Well thanks, Peter. I sure hope you're right! Tom in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count If you haven't had many reset requests you'll be fine.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Well, Peter, I just completed the activation re-set form, so will
hopefully learn the outcome soon.
I am a bit distressed about FS's approach to the activation issue, since
we
all paid good money for various versions of Jaws over the years, but I
guess
that's the name of the game in the softwre design world today.
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
I used to do it over the website but FS once advised me that since I'm in
the UK, taking in to account time difference, public holidays etc it would be best to contact my local distributor Sight and Sound. The last time
Sight and Sound went to reset my activations they were told by FS that
they couldn't do it. I then rang FS from the UK and had a debate with the
person on the helpdesk and she reset my activation but only to 1, not 3.
I'm finding so much more that NVDA is working better with than JAWS that
now I really won't be upgrading any further with JAWS after my SMA runs
out. I also intend to take up all my issues with FS.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Peter:
Are you trying to re-set your activation count via the web site, or over
the
phone?
I'm about to embark on this process myself, out of necessity, so a
curious
mind wants to know. (smile)
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Hmm, they have now refused to reset mine to more than one at a time.
They claim I have had 33 activations in a few months. Can't think where
they get that figure from and very annoying. I'm in the process of
raising it as a complaint. They tried to sell me a dongle licence
instead.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
They are nice, but don't ask more than once every few months. If you're
down
to 1 they will sometimes bump you back up to 3. But no more than 3.
Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 17:36
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS when
it
comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count
Hello there;
No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count
Hi, all.
I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.
I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer
from the list.
Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself have
a
given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws, or is
the
allotted number of 3 activations constant across all versions of Jaws
collectively?
I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home,
and
am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older
Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as well.
I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably
use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work with.
Thanks!
Tom from Michigan
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Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
Kim and Mike,
I hope this method works on these websites. When I used JAWS 10, I found
solutions inconsistent. On Yahoo Finance, for example, I had to locate the
toggle link for applications mode to turn it off.
For me, the problem was completely eliminated in JAWS 11. I can't speak for
all webpages, but I've never encountered applications mode after JAWS 10.
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara In Arcadia
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
Hi Kim,
You can disregard my last reply. I found some laptop keystrokes in my
notes. They are below. What you want is the first 1.
Laptop commands
find the laptop keys for jaws
PC Cursor
CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON
JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+P
Invisible Cursor
CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly
Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE
Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor
CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET
Restrict JAWS Cursor
CAPS LOCK+R
Left Mouse Button
CAPS LOCK+8
Right Mouse Button
CAPS LOCK+9
Left Mouse Button Lock
CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8
Right Mouse Button Lock
CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9
Drag and Drop
CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8
Say Active Cursor
ALT+DELETE
Mouse Down
ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
Mouse Left
ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW
Mouse Right
ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW
Mouse Up
ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW
press capslock and P
will switch to the jaws cursor
press capslock and semi colon to switch back to the PC cursor.
Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Kim Loftis
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
Hi Mike,
Many thanks for that info!! I'm using a laptop, though, so don't have a
separate number pad... any idea what the laptop keystroke may be?
Thanks again!
Warmest,
Kim
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:30 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
> Hi Kim,
>
> Application mode is invoked by JAWS because the page is coded as an
> application. This is done through HTML codes. Pressing numpad plus
brings
> you back to
> virtual mode and makes the page readable. Hope this helps. Take care.
> Mike
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kim Loftis
> To: jfw@...
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:19 PM
> Subject: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> On many pages using Jaws 10 and XP Pro, I'm running into the "app mode
on"
> message from Jaws. This is happening particularly with PayPal and on my
> Wordpress site dashboard when editing content there. When I run into
this
> issue, it's pretty much impossible to access a page and issue any
commands,
> enter any text, etc.
>
> Is there any way to keep "app mode" from appearing, even temporarily.
I
> desperately need to get these website pages edited, and this is giving
me a
> real headache.
>
> Any tips, suggestions or fixes would be tremendously appreciated!
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Warmest,
> Kim
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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] How to fixate on Trivia - Part 1
Whatever you want, Ken. Stop fixating on the bulk subject. Better yet, delete them all. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Lawrence" <kenlawrence124@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 19:13 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count got a question. with tghe3 word bulk in message after message, should I start reporting all jaws messages that aren't a concern as spam or junk mail? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count Well thanks, Peter. I sure hope you're right! Tom in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count If you haven't had many reset requests you'll be fine.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Well, Peter, I just completed the activation re-set form, so will
hopefully learn the outcome soon.
I am a bit distressed about FS's approach to the activation issue, since
we
all paid good money for various versions of Jaws over the years, but I
guess
that's the name of the game in the softwre design world today.
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
I used to do it over the website but FS once advised me that since I'm in
the UK, taking in to account time difference, public holidays etc it would
be best to contact my local distributor Sight and Sound. The last time
Sight and Sound went to reset my activations they were told by FS that
they couldn't do it. I then rang FS from the UK and had a debate with the
person on the helpdesk and she reset my activation but only to 1, not 3.
I'm finding so much more that NVDA is working better with than JAWS that
now I really won't be upgrading any further with JAWS after my SMA runs
out. I also intend to take up all my issues with FS.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Peter:
Are you trying to re-set your activation count via the web site, or over
the
phone?
I'm about to embark on this process myself, out of necessity, so a
curious
mind wants to know. (smile)
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
Hmm, they have now refused to reset mine to more than one at a time.
They claim I have had 33 activations in a few months. Can't think where
they get that figure from and very annoying. I'm in the process of
raising it as a complaint. They tried to sell me a dongle licence
instead.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
They are nice, but don't ask more than once every few months. If you're
down
to 1 they will sometimes bump you back up to 3. But no more than 3.
Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 17:36
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Question on activation count
That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS when
it
comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?
Tom in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count
Hello there;
No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count
Hi, all.
I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.
I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer
from the list.
Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself have
a
given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws, or is
the
allotted number of 3 activations constant across all versions of Jaws
collectively?
I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home,
and
am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older
Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as well.
I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably
use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work with.
Thanks!
Tom from Michigan
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