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JAWS 13 Hot Key

Dave Mitchell
 

Hi, I had a Hot Key assigned to JAWS 13 and I managed to do this via the icon on the desk top. This is a major whoop for me.
Now I notice that somehow the desktop icon for JAWS 13 has gone missing.
Of course, I don't know how to remedy this.
Do I need to install from the CD? Or is there a simple way to add JAWS 13 to the desk top?
This is an XP Home O S.
Thanks, Mitch


Re: JAWS 13.0.638 - Was [Bulk] Outlook 2007

Dave...
 

I removed JAWS 13.0.638 a(using restore) and am back to using JAWS 13.0.527.

My bad experience was with a web site where I had the "Remember me on this
computer" feature enabled at the logon. Normally I hear my user name in the
edit field when opening such web pages.

With this last update of JAWS (and with no other versions before) I heard a
reading of the lines of one of the underlying script files read on and on
and on. The username was actually there, but JAWS was off reading something
completely wrong. The offending text string was no where on the screen -- it
was just being fed into the synthesizer.

Anyone else seen this behavior? If so please report to FS.

I'm using Windows 7 32-bit and IE 7

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 07:52
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2007


I am also experiencing this. When I checked the screen colors with JAWS, it
said black on black. It's very strange!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2007

List,



After downloading and installing the latest JAWS 13 update, in Outlook 2007
every message is announced as "not selected." It reads this way when
arrowing up and down in every folder. Anyone else experiencing this
behavior?



Mark



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Re: Outlook 2007

Londa Peterson <lpeterson@...>
 

I am also experiencing this. When I checked the screen colors with JAWS, it
said black on black. It's very strange!

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2007

List,



After downloading and installing the latest JAWS 13 update, in Outlook 2007
every message is announced as "not selected." It reads this way when
arrowing up and down in every folder. Anyone else experiencing this
behavior?



Mark



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Re: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

How well does X do with long documents? The performance of 7,8, and 9
has been truly awful, forcing the user to choose between either
continually paging down or dealing with a balky, slow, crash-prone
application (I haven't compared notes with sighted users on this issue).
I've been using that little reader that came with Thunder; it lacks
fancy features, but is rock steady.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Hamid Hamraz
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 4:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

Hi David,

I am using Adobe Acrobat X pro. I don't like the new interface with the
reduced menues. I couldn't locate the checkbox though! Any comment?
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X


If you're having problems with adobe X try the following;

1, open adobe X,

2, press ctrl+k=preferences,

3, now press the letter "g"=general,

4, now tab and
Uncheck,
Enable Protected Mode at startup

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Charles Coe
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:18 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

Try this site It has instructions on how to access pdf docs with
screen
readers.

www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/reader


Hope this will be of help.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Bergen, Eric
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

The wizard came up the first time I went into a .PDF document and I
went
through it.
I am not sure of some of the choices though.
I set what I thought was correct but it is still not reading anything.
Thanks.
Eric.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X

Look for a menu or ribbon referring to accessibility, and run the
wizard.
I
don't have Adobe X but there should be something similar.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bergen, Eric" <Eric.Bergen@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:03 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Adobe Reader X


Hello.

They have just upgraded me at work to Adobe Reader X from Adobe
Reader
9.

Now when I load a document, I can't read anything.

When I do a down arrow it just says blank.

It is not an OCR thing since I could read the same document with
Adobe
Reader 9.

Any ideas if there are particular settings under preferences that I
need
to set in order for me to be able to read .PDF documents?

I am using Jaws 12.1169.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Eric.



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Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Karen Hughes <khughes8@...>
 

cy, I agree with you with the past miserable performance I don't plan on renewing my jaws or getting the maintenance agreement. it is pretty sad to put out a new addition and expecting the public to expect a flawed product. Karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: becoming a jaws beta tester


Dave,
First three months? Man, are you optimistic. (LOLLOLLOL)
Did they ever get 12 reasonably clean?
I am still on 11 and wonder how 13 is for real.
I am trying to decide if I really want to renew my SMA or is it just going
to be waste of money - again?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

RJ,

Everyone is a beta tester for at least the first 3 months of a new release.

Okay, I'm cynical. Actually the new version does pre-release about a month
in advance and everyone is welcome to download and report bugs. However
given the short time I really don't think those bug reports ever make it to
the first release. I suspect that these bugs get fixed in the succeeding
monthly updates. Okay, cynical again, but not quite so much, eh?

Other than that if you want to be a Beta tester for real, you need to
contact FS directly and let them know you're interested. Then be prepared to

devote a lot of time to wringing out as many quirks as possible, with as
many applications as possible, in as many operating environments as possible

during the testing cycles, and report every single thing you find that
either works or does not work.

If I ever retire and have nothing to do, I'll volunteer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 19:25
Subject: becoming a jaws beta tester


How does one become a jaws beta tester? RJ
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Re: word 2007 with jaws 10 and the ribbon

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

All can be found under the home tab. Font can still be called up with
Ctrl-D, and the quick way to get to paragraphs is still Alt-O for
format, followed by P.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: word 2007 with jaws 10 and the ribbon

Good afternoon: I am generally a word erfectuser; however, I'm preparing
a
legal document which must be in word. Can someone tell me where I can
find
the following in the ribbgon: (1) format; (2) font; ((3)paragraph). Once
I
get to those I may be able to get where I need to go, but can't seem to
locate them. Thanks in advance.
John Fioravanti
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gouw, John van der (Babbage)" <JohnVanDerGouw@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:00 PM
Subject: Vmware Viewer VDI


Hi,



Does anyone have experience in running Jaws remotely in a Vmware
Viewer 6
(VDI) session? Does it work and are there any tips and tricks?



Thanks,

John

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Re: Outlook 2007

bob mathews <bmathews@...>
 

Yes I am

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 21:26
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2007

List,



After downloading and installing the latest JAWS 13 update, in Outlook 2007
every message is announced as "not selected." It reads this way when
arrowing up and down in every folder. Anyone else experiencing this
behavior?



Mark



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Re: Outlook 2007

Kamil Żak <kamilek687@...>
 

Yes, the jaws reads unselected (in polish nie wybrano) also in outlook 2007.
My jaws versions 12.0.1612 polish and 13.0 english. Sometimes message list
is reading normally, but some times is reading unselected. I don't know what
this behavior depends in jaws and outlook.

Kamil Żak

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:26 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Outlook 2007

List,



After downloading and installing the latest JAWS 13 update, in Outlook
2007 every message is announced as "not selected." It reads this way
when arrowing up and down in every folder. Anyone else experiencing
this behavior?



Mark



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Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Sugar <sugarsyl71@...>
 

auauah, guess i'm safe with jaws 11..smile
sugar

"And the angel said unto them, "Fear not! For, behold, I bring you tidings of great joy, Which shall be to all people. "For unto you is born this day in
the city of David A Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you: Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, Lying in
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--St. Luke ii. 10-12"
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
~Sugar

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:02 PM
Subject: RE: becoming a jaws beta tester


Dave, Dave, Dave.
There are two glaring flaws in your theory the worse of which is "if the
developers will resolve all the bugs found". (LOLLOLLOLLOL)
I have worked on systems under the theory that 300 monkeys can accomplish
the same amount of work as one monkey working 300 days - God, what a
disaster.
I do, however, concur with your theory on the odd number releases being the
better ones.
Cy


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Cy,

As cynical as I can be, I do think that JAWS 13 is a much better product
than 12. Goes back to my original theory that only odd-numbered versions of
JAWS are worth the price. Too bad we can't purchase an SMA that follows that

pattern.

Sure, 3 months is plenty of time. There's an old adage that if one writer,
writing one page per day can produce a 600-page book in 600 days, we then
can extrapolate and say that 600 writers can produce the same book in 1 day,

correct?

So goes Beta testing. As long as every beta tester is testing something
different in the code, then the more testers, the better. And if they are
all working 8 hours a day to dedicated testing (and not just playing around
with ResearchIt) 100 testers can put in 100 x 8 x 90 hours of testing. A
whopping 72,000 hours. If that really happened and the developers resolved
all the bugs found, we would have a very stable product, indeed.

But of course there are likely fewer testers, fewer hours per day, and much
more overlap.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 20:42
Subject: RE: becoming a jaws beta tester


Dave,
First three months? Man, are you optimistic. (LOLLOLLOL)
Did they ever get 12 reasonably clean?
I am still on 11 and wonder how 13 is for real.
I am trying to decide if I really want to renew my SMA or is it just going
to be waste of money - again?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

RJ,

Everyone is a beta tester for at least the first 3 months of a new release.

Okay, I'm cynical. Actually the new version does pre-release about a month
in advance and everyone is welcome to download and report bugs. However
given the short time I really don't think those bug reports ever make it to
the first release. I suspect that these bugs get fixed in the succeeding
monthly updates. Okay, cynical again, but not quite so much, eh?

Other than that if you want to be a Beta tester for real, you need to
contact FS directly and let them know you're interested. Then be prepared to

devote a lot of time to wringing out as many quirks as possible, with as
many applications as possible, in as many operating environments as possible

during the testing cycles, and report every single thing you find that
either works or does not work.

If I ever retire and have nothing to do, I'll volunteer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 19:25
Subject: becoming a jaws beta tester


How does one become a jaws beta tester? RJ
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Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

northstar1950@...
 

yeh, and do they listen to the beta testers? no!
Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/13/2011 10:42 PM, Cy Selfridge said:
----------------------------------------
Dave,
First three months? Man, are you optimistic. (LOLLOLLOL)
Did they ever get 12 reasonably clean?
I am still on 11 and wonder how 13 is for real.
I am trying to decide if I really want to renew my SMA or is it just going
to be waste of money - again?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

RJ,

Everyone is a beta tester for at least the first 3 months of a new release.

Okay, I'm cynical. Actually the new version does pre-release about a month
in advance and everyone is welcome to download and report bugs. However
given the short time I really don't think those bug reports ever make it to
the first release. I suspect that these bugs get fixed in the succeeding
monthly updates. Okay, cynical again, but not quite so much, eh?

Other than that if you want to be a Beta tester for real, you need to
contact FS directly and let them know you're interested. Then be prepared to

devote a lot of time to wringing out as many quirks as possible, with as
many applications as possible, in as many operating environments as possible

during the testing cycles, and report every single thing you find that
either works or does not work.

If I ever retire and have nothing to do, I'll volunteer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 19:25
Subject: becoming a jaws beta tester


How does one become a jaws beta tester? RJ
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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] adding scripts to jaws under windows 7 32 bit

northstar1950@...
 

o.k. when you create scripts you add the keystroke combo to the scripts and you should be able to add these scripts to the existing scripts and they should work without having to compile and the keystroke combos assigned to each script should work as well. i have modified scripts for eudora that i use all the time and when i created an installer for them, the installer worked but the keystroke combo assigned to the modified scripts were not there. the scripts are but not the key combo assigned. i am having to re-assign the key combos again and re-compiole the scripts for the key combo assigned to work. i know the scripts are there because the date at the top of the .jss file is there that i placed there and my modified scripts are there as well without they key combo assignments. very strange. no problem with them under windows xp just windows 7 32 bit. i would hate to think what would happen with windows 7 64bit, lol!
Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/13/2011 10:33 PM, Farfar on Laptop said:
----------------------------------------
Northstar,

Then I completely missed what you were reporting as the problem. Can you
elucidate?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: <northstar1950@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 17:25
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] adding scripts to jaws under windows 7 32 bit


well, what you are saying is true, but i have the scripts already
compiled and should work when added to the enu folder without having
to re-compile them. and even then, re-compiling them wouldn't change
the assigned keystrokes unless you have changed them before
re-compiling. the file with extention of .jkm should have the
keystroke assignments as the .jsd file has the descriptions.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/13/2011 06:13 PM, Farfar on Laptop said:
----------------------------------------
Northstar1950,

Not specifically your problem, but I've not had any trouble assigning or
reassigning keystrokes to existing scripts. In fact in the Excel scripts
delivered with JAWS 12 they had removed some scripts that I had to paste in
from JAWS 11 and then reassign keystrokes.

When you create the scripts you're concerned with, are you also assigning
the keystrokes from within the scripts themselves, prior to compiling? I
didn't know that was possible. I thought that keystrokes always had to be
assigned after compiling, using the Keyboard Manager.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: <northstar1950@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 16:04
Subject: [Bulk] adding scripts to jaws under windows 7 32 bit


i have found that when adding scripts say for instance eudora, i
navigate to the jaws 13 under all programs and then to browse my
settings, when i paste my scripts there they show up as the active
scripts, but the assigned keystrokes do not work. i have to add them
all over again. i even have an installer to extract the scripts where
they are supposed to go and that doesn't work correctly either.
anybody having this problem with jaws 13 and windows 7 32bit?




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Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Cy Selfridge
 

Dave, Dave, Dave.
There are two glaring flaws in your theory the worse of which is "if the
developers will resolve all the bugs found". (LOLLOLLOLLOL)
I have worked on systems under the theory that 300 monkeys can accomplish
the same amount of work as one monkey working 300 days - God, what a
disaster.
I do, however, concur with your theory on the odd number releases being the
better ones.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Cy,

As cynical as I can be, I do think that JAWS 13 is a much better product
than 12. Goes back to my original theory that only odd-numbered versions of
JAWS are worth the price. Too bad we can't purchase an SMA that follows that

pattern.

Sure, 3 months is plenty of time. There's an old adage that if one writer,
writing one page per day can produce a 600-page book in 600 days, we then
can extrapolate and say that 600 writers can produce the same book in 1 day,

correct?

So goes Beta testing. As long as every beta tester is testing something
different in the code, then the more testers, the better. And if they are
all working 8 hours a day to dedicated testing (and not just playing around
with ResearchIt) 100 testers can put in 100 x 8 x 90 hours of testing. A
whopping 72,000 hours. If that really happened and the developers resolved
all the bugs found, we would have a very stable product, indeed.

But of course there are likely fewer testers, fewer hours per day, and much
more overlap.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 20:42
Subject: RE: becoming a jaws beta tester


Dave,
First three months? Man, are you optimistic. (LOLLOLLOL)
Did they ever get 12 reasonably clean?
I am still on 11 and wonder how 13 is for real.
I am trying to decide if I really want to renew my SMA or is it just going
to be waste of money - again?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

RJ,

Everyone is a beta tester for at least the first 3 months of a new release.

Okay, I'm cynical. Actually the new version does pre-release about a month
in advance and everyone is welcome to download and report bugs. However
given the short time I really don't think those bug reports ever make it to
the first release. I suspect that these bugs get fixed in the succeeding
monthly updates. Okay, cynical again, but not quite so much, eh?

Other than that if you want to be a Beta tester for real, you need to
contact FS directly and let them know you're interested. Then be prepared to

devote a lot of time to wringing out as many quirks as possible, with as
many applications as possible, in as many operating environments as possible

during the testing cycles, and report every single thing you find that
either works or does not work.

If I ever retire and have nothing to do, I'll volunteer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 19:25
Subject: becoming a jaws beta tester


How does one become a jaws beta tester? RJ
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Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Dave...
 

Cy,

As cynical as I can be, I do think that JAWS 13 is a much better product
than 12. Goes back to my original theory that only odd-numbered versions of
JAWS are worth the price. Too bad we can't purchase an SMA that follows that
pattern.

Sure, 3 months is plenty of time. There's an old adage that if one writer,
writing one page per day can produce a 600-page book in 600 days, we then
can extrapolate and say that 600 writers can produce the same book in 1 day,
correct?

So goes Beta testing. As long as every beta tester is testing something
different in the code, then the more testers, the better. And if they are
all working 8 hours a day to dedicated testing (and not just playing around
with ResearchIt) 100 testers can put in 100 x 8 x 90 hours of testing. A
whopping 72,000 hours. If that really happened and the developers resolved
all the bugs found, we would have a very stable product, indeed.

But of course there are likely fewer testers, fewer hours per day, and much
more overlap.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 20:42
Subject: RE: becoming a jaws beta tester


Dave,
First three months? Man, are you optimistic. (LOLLOLLOL)
Did they ever get 12 reasonably clean?
I am still on 11 and wonder how 13 is for real.
I am trying to decide if I really want to renew my SMA or is it just going
to be waste of money - again?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

RJ,

Everyone is a beta tester for at least the first 3 months of a new release.

Okay, I'm cynical. Actually the new version does pre-release about a month
in advance and everyone is welcome to download and report bugs. However
given the short time I really don't think those bug reports ever make it to
the first release. I suspect that these bugs get fixed in the succeeding
monthly updates. Okay, cynical again, but not quite so much, eh?

Other than that if you want to be a Beta tester for real, you need to
contact FS directly and let them know you're interested. Then be prepared to

devote a lot of time to wringing out as many quirks as possible, with as
many applications as possible, in as many operating environments as possible

during the testing cycles, and report every single thing you find that
either works or does not work.

If I ever retire and have nothing to do, I'll volunteer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 19:25
Subject: becoming a jaws beta tester


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Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Cy Selfridge
 

Dave,
First three months? Man, are you optimistic. (LOLLOLLOL)
Did they ever get 12 reasonably clean?
I am still on 11 and wonder how 13 is for real.
I am trying to decide if I really want to renew my SMA or is it just going
to be waste of money - again?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

RJ,

Everyone is a beta tester for at least the first 3 months of a new release.

Okay, I'm cynical. Actually the new version does pre-release about a month
in advance and everyone is welcome to download and report bugs. However
given the short time I really don't think those bug reports ever make it to
the first release. I suspect that these bugs get fixed in the succeeding
monthly updates. Okay, cynical again, but not quite so much, eh?

Other than that if you want to be a Beta tester for real, you need to
contact FS directly and let them know you're interested. Then be prepared to

devote a lot of time to wringing out as many quirks as possible, with as
many applications as possible, in as many operating environments as possible

during the testing cycles, and report every single thing you find that
either works or does not work.

If I ever retire and have nothing to do, I'll volunteer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 19:25
Subject: becoming a jaws beta tester


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Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Dave...
 

RJ,

Everyone is a beta tester for at least the first 3 months of a new release.

Okay, I'm cynical. Actually the new version does pre-release about a month
in advance and everyone is welcome to download and report bugs. However
given the short time I really don't think those bug reports ever make it to
the first release. I suspect that these bugs get fixed in the succeeding
monthly updates. Okay, cynical again, but not quite so much, eh?

Other than that if you want to be a Beta tester for real, you need to
contact FS directly and let them know you're interested. Then be prepared to
devote a lot of time to wringing out as many quirks as possible, with as
many applications as possible, in as many operating environments as possible
during the testing cycles, and report every single thing you find that
either works or does not work.

If I ever retire and have nothing to do, I'll volunteer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 19:25
Subject: becoming a jaws beta tester


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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] adding scripts to jaws under windows 7 32 bit

Dave...
 

Northstar,

Then I completely missed what you were reporting as the problem. Can you
elucidate?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: <northstar1950@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 17:25
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] adding scripts to jaws under windows 7 32 bit


well, what you are saying is true, but i have the scripts already
compiled and should work when added to the enu folder without having
to re-compile them. and even then, re-compiling them wouldn't change
the assigned keystrokes unless you have changed them before
re-compiling. the file with extention of .jkm should have the
keystroke assignments as the .jsd file has the descriptions.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/13/2011 06:13 PM, Farfar on Laptop said:
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Northstar1950,

Not specifically your problem, but I've not had any trouble assigning or
reassigning keystrokes to existing scripts. In fact in the Excel scripts
delivered with JAWS 12 they had removed some scripts that I had to paste in
from JAWS 11 and then reassign keystrokes.

When you create the scripts you're concerned with, are you also assigning
the keystrokes from within the scripts themselves, prior to compiling? I
didn't know that was possible. I thought that keystrokes always had to be
assigned after compiling, using the Keyboard Manager.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: <northstar1950@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 16:04
Subject: [Bulk] adding scripts to jaws under windows 7 32 bit


i have found that when adding scripts say for instance eudora, i
navigate to the jaws 13 under all programs and then to browse my
settings, when i paste my scripts there they show up as the active
scripts, but the assigned keystrokes do not work. i have to add them
all over again. i even have an installer to extract the scripts where
they are supposed to go and that doesn't work correctly either.
anybody having this problem with jaws 13 and windows 7 32bit?




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Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

contact Freedom Scientific

At 10:25 PM 12/13/2011, you wrote:
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Re: binary options day-trading sites

John Martyn
 

Not that I know of, but that is on the list of development on my end.
John

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Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:56 PM
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Subject: binary options day-trading sites

hey guys:
does anybody know whether or not there are accessible, (jaws-ready)
day-trading sites to trade binary options?

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Outlook 2007

Mark Arnold ABG
 

List,



After downloading and installing the latest JAWS 13 update, in Outlook 2007
every message is announced as "not selected." It reads this way when
arrowing up and down in every folder. Anyone else experiencing this
behavior?



Mark



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