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What to do about XP machines

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7 laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan

Re: Question on activation count

Dave Durber
 

Peter:

Your idea, would not be of any use to those of us who travel a great deal and use a PackMate or a laptop because, the IP address would constantly change.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


In my case I haven't had as many activations as FS claims. I only use JAWS on both of my PCs and no where else. The only times I've had activations has been when I've restored my PC back and fitted new hardware. Some of the times I've restored my PC back has been due to issues with JAWS and trying to resolve them. A more sensible approach from FS would be to have JAWS send once a day a message to FS giving the IP address of the computer then they would be able to see that it was being used in the location it was intended for and wouldn't be an issue. For those who don't want FS to have that information they can just remain as they are.

We pay a lot of money for the software to say the least. I appreciate FS want to protect themselves from piracy but I am sure that such a strict policy on activations is what has caused some to go down the route of piracy (mine is a fully paid for version and I do not condone piracy in the slightest).

Peter

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The
people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a
zillion computers. This is absurd. Any blind computer user who owns more
than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as
well.

I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.

Thanks!

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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...>
 

It is a travesty , Freedom Scientific is proofing everytime that's they do care about their wealth expansion much more than the customer satisfaction



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From: "Brian and Denise Albriton" <autoharp@...>
To: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
Cc: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


I think you made a good choice. Twelve seems to be pretty abysmal with xp.


On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

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On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
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Re: Convert Kindel Books Programs!

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I believe I got this method to work previously but only after upgrading from Kindle for PC version 1.01b to at least 1.3. I also had to upgrade the sconvert program and possibly point scripts at the correct location for Kindle.info.

After about 8 hours of experimentation, I got the Kindle book converted to HTML and began happily reading with JAWS.

Then I discovered that Bookshare had the same book available without any of the fuss. Best $50 I ever spent!

This was a few months ago so I can't remember all the details. If there is sufficient interest, I'll write something up.

Ben

At 01:39 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:
Could you provide me with this tool?

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Subject: Convert Kindel Books Programs!

Here are the programs one needs to convirt Kindle books to an HTML file. Download the file from the download link, either save then right-click to extract, or save it and extract to the folder of choice and open the "Instructions.txt" file.
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Re: Question on activation count

Dave Durber
 

Gerald:

Who are people like you to say how many computers an individual should own or not. For your current personal needs, you have decided that you only need one computer. So, that is fine for you.

Why a particular person needs to use more than one computer, in order to perform the functions of their job or, to run a business, is none of yours or, anybody else's business. Neither should an individual have to justify to you or, anybody else, why they need to use more than one computer, in order for them to be able to perform those functions.

If you had bothered to read the JAWS license Agreement, you would have discovered, under the section titled, "COPYING THE PROGRAM", the last sentence of the first paragraph reads,

*** beginning quotation from Jaws License Agreement ***

The Licensee may install and use the program on more than one machine, but only one machine may be used at a time.

*** End quotation from Jaws License Agreement ***

It is Freedom Scientific, which has decided that up to three activation codes are granted to an individual user. This has not been specifically stated in the JAWS License Agreement. Freedom Scientific has granted this number of activation codes for a personal licensed user, as a discretion, not a right. So, therefore, Freedom Scientific, can and may, vary this count, with, or without notice.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count



Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers. This is absurd. Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as
well.

I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan



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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Adrian Spratt
 

This is an incentive to skip one or two bad versions. Good information.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


I just checked the FS web site, and found out that they charge $400 to
upgrade to JAWS 12 from JAWS 8 or earleer, plus an additional $200 if you
want the professional version.

http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/jawssma.htm

Gerald


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To: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
Cc: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


I think you made a good choice. Twelve seems to be pretty abysmal with xp.


On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA
at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS
12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP
Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

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[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
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Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Gerald Levy
 

I just checked the FS web site, and found out that they charge $400 to upgrade to JAWS 12 from JAWS 8 or earleer, plus an additional $200 if you want the professional version.

http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/jawssma.htm

Gerald

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To: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
Cc: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


I think you made a good choice. Twelve seems to be pretty abysmal with xp.


On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Brian and Denise Albriton <autoharp@...>
 

I think you made a good choice. Twelve seems to be pretty abysmal with xp.

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Gerald Levy
 

Full price! You mean FS doesn't even give you a break if you are already a loyal JAWS user? So somebody who is using an older version of JAWS like JAWS 7 or 8 would pay the same $1000 for JAWS 12 as somebody who has never used JAWS before? This just doesn't seem fair.

Gerald

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

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On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
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Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi, I just got the jaws 12 demo and have 6.2 now. When I spoke with Fredom
last week, they told me that it would cost $400.00 to get the full version
of 12. Please keep in mind that I never had the contract, I don't know if
that makes a difference. Andy and Shubert

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Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
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Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Adrian Spratt
 

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
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Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
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upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Brian and Denise Albriton <autoharp@...>
 

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.

Re: one more Jaws Activation question

Dave Durber
 

Tom:

No it does not.

In other words, if you purchased JAWS 12 and/or you purchased an SMA at the same time or, you have an SMA which covers JAWS 12 or beyond, The installation count will not be affected when you install a later version of JAWS, than the one you are currently using.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:12 AM
Subject: one more Jaws Activation question


Hello again, everyone.

I successfully convinced the folks at FS to re-set my activation count back to 3, so it looks like I am now all set in that regard.

However, I have one more question about the activation process:

If I upgrade from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12 on a computer that already has Jaws 11, does the upgrade count against my number of available activations? In other words, each time I upgrade from Jaws 11 to 12, do I loose an activation?

Thanks!

Tom in Michigan



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Re: baseball scores with Research It

Howard <hwolcott@...>
 

hi:
nothing!!
researchit for all sports scores is broken.
and it looks like it won't be fixed, either.

howard wolcott

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From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:08 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: baseball scores with Research It

What do I enter in the list box to get baseball scores? I tried Cubs, then chicago, and then blank, tabbed to MLB scores, and got no results.

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Re: Accessible software with JAWS there can read information about wireless network

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

Not sure if this will work, but it's worth a try;


Putting icons back into the SystemTray.


Here are some steps I wrote quite a while ago, regarding this topic to
another list.

try these steps to get your network icon back into the system tray.

1, start menu;

2, setting/control panel;

3, t= taskbar and start menu, press enter.
If your using Xp, you just need to tab until you hear,
hide inactive icons, the box should be unchecked, so press spacebar to check

this box.
you will now see customize dialog button. The next 3 steps are for vista
users.
4, shift tab one time, you should hear,
taskbar tab.
5, right arrow until you hear;
Notification area tab.
6, tab one time you should hear;
Hide inactive icons this is unchecked, press spacebar to check.
7, tab enter on,
Icons customize....
8, now, down arrow until you hear,
Network connection,
right arrow, a combo box will open,
down arrow to show.
9, now tab, and enter on okay.

this should get your icon back into the system tray.
these same steps will apply, if you want to remove a icon from your system
tray.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:36 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: RE: Accessible software with JAWS there can read information about
wireless network

Hi again,

No, I can not see the network connection icon in the system tray.

What change should I make so I can see the network connection icon in the
system tray?

Very thanks.

Regards,
Anders
--- "David" Wrote ---
Hello do you see the network connection in system tray?


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Re: Accessible software with JAWS there can read information about wireless network

Anders Boholdt-Petersen
 

Hi again,

No, I can not see the network connection icon in the system tray.

What change should I make so I can see the network connection icon in the system tray?

Very thanks.

Regards,
Anders
--- "David" Wrote ---
Hello do you see the network connection in system tray?

Re: fire fox and jaw

Kirsten Edmondson <kirsten.edmondson@...>
 

According to the add-ons section on FF it doesn't work with 6, but I didn't
try it so if others have and it does then I shall get it too.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Kerri
Sent: 21 August 2011 00:29
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: fire fox and jaw

How does one access the webisum?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:56 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: fire fox and jaw

Yes the webisum does work with ff6.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: fire fox and jaw

Haven't actually had a chance to use it, but if the compatibility plug-in
still works, then I would guess it should. Maybe I'll try it out later to
see.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: fire fox and jaw


Does Webvisum work with FF 6? FF 7 is already in beta and scheduled for
release in about two weeks.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "CrisMunoz54" <crismunoz54@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: fire fox and jaw


FF 6 works well with Jaws 11 and up. In fact, the address bar works in FF
6
again.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Kerri
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: fire fox and jaw

Hello. Yes, I have installed fox 6 because that is the only one I know of
and I did so in a pinch. The synchronizing was my next question since I
don't know how to import my favorites or anything else with fox but I'll
quit bugging you now. Grin.

Jesus is the author of connection. Satan is the author of isolation. The
more our enemy takes us captive, the further we distance ourselves from
healthy people. - Beth Moore

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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: fire fox and jfw

Kerri,

Have you installed Firefox 6? I have no experience with that version for a
reason I'll explain in a moment.

In terms of JAWS, I don't recall needing to make any adjustments for
Firefox
3 and 4. I assume, without knowing for a fact, that Firefox 6 and JAWS
work
well together.

If you explore the Mozilla website, you'll find references to many, many
add-ons that can enhance your experience. These have to do with
synchronizing your Firefox and IE favorites, PDF files, Adobe Flash and
more.

Many of us started using Firefox because of Webvisum, which deciphered
so-called CAPTIA, or image codes, that many websites use for security
purposes. Webvisum never worked with IE. However, Webvisum hasn't been
updated for versions 5 and 6, and the people at Webvisum haven't been
responding to queries.

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On Behalf Of Kerri
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: fire fox and jfw



Hello, all. I'm new to Firefox and was inquiring whether or not there are
any settings needed to optimize fire fox with jaws? Thanks and have a
great
day.

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Re: Question on activation count

Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...>
 

Along with IL they should do , and , it is a matter of relativity , it varys on individual basis.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


I think the issue is more the number of activations rather than the number of machines. The two don't necessarily corolate i.e. someone who is always tweaking and playing around with their one machine and doing potentially risky things with it as far as testing software etc might need to use more activations than someone with three PCs which are carefully managed and only used for business critical reasons and therefore unlikely to reactivate very often.

Yes the person who is playing and tweaking could back up and take precautions but at the end of the day it's their PC and they should be able to manage it however they want.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: inthane
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:21 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

no, they don't necessarily do this, dongles don't cover every situation.

I may need to run up to three of my machines at a time for
synchronization and coordination, and they all need to talk so I know what
is currently going on on each of them.

and FS already knows about my setup and as long as they don't get
authorization requests from different locations from me or no more than two
locations all is fine.

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mostafa Al'mahdy" <mostafa.almahdy@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


I think in this case , you may need to acquire a dongle as an alternative , and that's probably what Freedom Scientific will propose.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


Gerald:

Not so fast there!

I work as a college professor, and need a PC for my normal office work, and a laptop when in the classroom or when traveling.

So, that's two computers for work.

Then, at home, I have my main PC, but like to have a back-up, just in case I experience a
system crash like I did a few weeks ago.

So, I use three computers mainly in my personal and professional life, but have the fourth as a back-up to call into service as needed.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count



Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers. This is absurd. Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as
well.

I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan



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Re: Question on activation count

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I think the issue is more the number of activations rather than the number of machines. The two don't necessarily corolate i.e. someone who is always tweaking and playing around with their one machine and doing potentially risky things with it as far as testing software etc might need to use more activations than someone with three PCs which are carefully managed and only used for business critical reasons and therefore unlikely to reactivate very often.

Yes the person who is playing and tweaking could back up and take precautions but at the end of the day it's their PC and they should be able to manage it however they want.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: inthane
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:21 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

no, they don't necessarily do this, dongles don't cover every situation.

I may need to run up to three of my machines at a time for
synchronization and coordination, and they all need to talk so I know what
is currently going on on each of them.

and FS already knows about my setup and as long as they don't get
authorization requests from different locations from me or no more than two
locations all is fine.

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mostafa Al'mahdy" <mostafa.almahdy@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


I think in this case , you may need to acquire a dongle as an alternative , and that's probably what Freedom Scientific will propose.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
_______________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


Gerald:

Not so fast there!

I work as a college professor, and need a PC for my normal office work, and a laptop when in the classroom or when traveling.

So, that's two computers for work.

Then, at home, I have my main PC, but like to have a back-up, just in case I experience a
system crash like I did a few weeks ago.

So, I use three computers mainly in my personal and professional life, but have the fourth as a back-up to call into service as needed.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count



Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers. This is absurd. Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count


That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count


Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed as
well.

I have Jaws 12, but a few earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to work
with.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan



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copying place marker file from one jaws version to another

Bhavesh
 

Hi folks, i am currently running jaws12, and planning to install
jaws10. i wanna know how can i copy the place marker file from the
current version to jaws10?
any help will be appriciated.
thanks,
bhavesh.