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Re: [Bulk] Accessible software with JAWS there can read informationabout wireless network

Dave...
 

Sorry, I don't know any way to see the strokes. I just use Excellent, Good,
Low, etc. to help me.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen"
<english_correspondences@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:23
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Accessible software with JAWS there can read
informationabout wireless network


Hi again, and very thanks for your solution.

Now I can see the icon for my wireless network in the system tray. But when
I unfortunately take a look on the properties, I only can see that the
signal strength is excellent, not how many strokes you have.

Next to the icon for the wireless network, sighted people can see how many
strokes (1 to 5) the wireless network's signal strength is. Normaly
producers of wireless network's refer to this strokes for information about
the signal strength.

It is posible for JAWS-users to see the strokes?

Very thanks.

Regards,
Anders
--- "David" Wrote ---
Hello there;

Not sure if this will work, but it's worth a try;

Putting icons back into the SystemTray.

Here are some steps I wrote quite a while ago, regarding this topic to
another list.

try these steps to get your network icon back into the system tray.

1, start menu;

2, setting/control panel;

3, t= taskbar and start menu, press enter.
If your using Xp, you just need to tab until you hear,
hide inactive icons, the box should be unchecked, so press spacebar to check

this box.
you will now see customize dialog button. The next 3 steps are for vista
users.
4, shift tab one time, you should hear,
taskbar tab.
5, right arrow until you hear;
Notification area tab.
6, tab one time you should hear;
Hide inactive icons this is unchecked, press spacebar to check.
7, tab enter on,
Icons customize....
8, now, down arrow until you hear,
Network connection,
right arrow, a combo box will open,
down arrow to show.
9, now tab, and enter on okay.

this should get your icon back into the system tray.


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Re: [Bulk] upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Charles Coe
 

Hello,

I have JAWS version Pro and running Windows 7Proffessional on a 64 bit
machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Dave,

Pro is required if you have XP Pro. No other features.

I suspect that Pro is required for Windows Pro, as well. Someone else can
clarify.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:17
Subject: [Bulk] Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Now can someone list all the extra functions you get with the pro version
for that extra $200? For $200, you must get a lot more features with the pro
version, right?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Gerald went to the FS website and corrected what I was careful to say was
a
guess. If you count the cost of SMAs for those of us who stayed current
from
JAWS 7 to 12, FS's $400 price tag for JAWS 12 from 7 looks cheap.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Karen Hughes
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

who ever said anything about fair. they do this to everyone. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12



Full price! You mean FS doesn't even give you a break if you are already
a loyal JAWS user? So somebody who is using an older version of JAWS
like
JAWS 7 or 8 would pay the same $1000 for JAWS 12 as somebody who has
never
used JAWS before? This just doesn't seem fair.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked
to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an
SMA
at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS
12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP
Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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Re: another question about programs that work with JFW

Charles Coe
 

I believe it does and apparently according to a very recent post on this
list there is a free version of Eudora.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of bill Deatherage
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:41 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: another question about programs that work with JFW

Hello,
I now have JFW 12 on my computer and am running windows 7. I was wondering
about eudorah. if they still have a free mail program and do they have a
version that works with Windows 7?
I used to use it back in the days of Dos.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Accessible software with JAWS there can read information about wireless network

Anders Boholdt-Petersen
 

Hi again, and very thanks for your solution.

Now I can see the icon for my wireless network in the system tray. But when I unfortunately take a look on the properties, I only can see that the signal strength is excellent, not how many strokes you have.

Next to the icon for the wireless network, sighted people can see how many strokes (1 to 5) the wireless network's signal strength is. Normaly producers of wireless network's refer to this strokes for information about the signal strength.

It is posible for JAWS-users to see the strokes?

Very thanks.

Regards,
Anders
--- "David" Wrote ---
Hello there;

Not sure if this will work, but it's worth a try;

Putting icons back into the SystemTray.

Here are some steps I wrote quite a while ago, regarding this topic to
another list.

try these steps to get your network icon back into the system tray.

1, start menu;

2, setting/control panel;

3, t= taskbar and start menu, press enter.
If your using Xp, you just need to tab until you hear,
hide inactive icons, the box should be unchecked, so press spacebar to check

this box.
you will now see customize dialog button. The next 3 steps are for vista
users.
4, shift tab one time, you should hear,
taskbar tab.
5, right arrow until you hear;
Notification area tab.
6, tab one time you should hear;
Hide inactive icons this is unchecked, press spacebar to check.
7, tab enter on,
Icons customize....
8, now, down arrow until you hear,
Network connection,
right arrow, a combo box will open,
down arrow to show.
9, now tab, and enter on okay.

this should get your icon back into the system tray.

Re: Convert Kindel Books Programs!

gary melconian <globcastcapital@...>
 

Hello ben, I was wondering if you could give me the instruction on how to
get kindle to work with jaws.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Convert Kindel Books Programs!

I believe I got this method to work previously but only after
upgrading from Kindle for PC version 1.01b to at least 1.3. I also
had to upgrade the sconvert program and possibly point scripts at the
correct location for Kindle.info.

After about 8 hours of experimentation, I got the Kindle book
converted to HTML and began happily reading with JAWS.

Then I discovered that Bookshare had the same book available without
any of the fuss. Best $50 I ever spent!

This was a few months ago so I can't remember all the details. If
there is sufficient interest, I'll write something up.

Ben


At 01:39 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:
Could you provide me with this tool?

-----Original Message----- From: brandonboy13@...
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 1:01 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Convert Kindel Books Programs!

Here are the programs one needs to convirt Kindle books to an HTML
file. Download the file from the download link, either save then
right-click to extract, or save it and extract to the folder of
choice and open the "Instructions.txt" file.
There you will find detailed instructions on how to convert both
kinds of Kindle books.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks,
You have 1 file waiting for download:
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You can copy and paste the following link in your browser to
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Re: [Bulk] Putting your response first, was: security

Dave...
 

Chuck,

You seem to be consistently several days or weeks behind in your mail. Not
that your comments aren't relevant, but usually the subject has already been
flogged to a quiet death long ago. Do you sort your mail oldest on top
(ascending), or most recent on top (descending)

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: <ckrugman@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:53
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Putting your response first, was: Re: security


now if its a blog post or a soap opera I always like oldest first.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Putting your response first, was: Re: security


That was really funny when I read the first message you sent saying you
would put your response at the top, while actually putting it underneath.
By the way, nothing scientific, but I did ask a few sighted people, and
they generally preferred the response first as well. My cousin said that
if he asked a number of questions in an email, he'd like the answers
inside the original email to make it clear what answer goes with what
question, which I agree with. But in most other cases, he'd prefer getting
right to the response.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <@ve3rwj>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Putting your response first, was: Re: security


Oops! Old habbits die hard. Ok, this should be right at the top. *LOL*

At 03:54 PM 7/26/2011, you wrote:
At 03:16 PM 7/26/2011, you wrote:
I would like to request putting your response at the top of the reply
rather than under the original message. This way I don't have to read
through the original post again before reading your thoughts.
Ok. I'll try to do so. Most sighted people like it the other way, so I'll
adapt depending to which list I am posting.



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Re: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines

Dave...
 

Ambrose, Where did you get that?

Dave Carlson
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to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ambrose" <ambroselh@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:00
Subject: [Bulk] RE: What to do about XP machines


The only problem jaws had with xp was the video intercept driver and they
patched it up which broke other stuff as usual

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:
Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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Re: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines

djasister@...
 

Will 12 not work?

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines

Yes, stick to JAWS 11 on your XP machine. Don't fix what isn't broken. Wait
and see what JAWS 13 does.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:27
Subject: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still use
XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all
completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine, and
still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and that
too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now on
the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared
more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my
remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7 laptop
the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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Re: What to do about XP machines

Ambrose <ambroselh@...>
 

The only problem jaws had with xp was the video intercept driver and they
patched it up which broke other stuff as usual

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:
Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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Re: [Bulk] upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Dave...
 

Dave,

Pro is required if you have XP Pro. No other features.

I suspect that Pro is required for Windows Pro, as well. Someone else can
clarify.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:17
Subject: [Bulk] Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Now can someone list all the extra functions you get with the pro version
for that extra $200? For $200, you must get a lot more features with the pro
version, right?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Gerald went to the FS website and corrected what I was careful to say was
a
guess. If you count the cost of SMAs for those of us who stayed current
from
JAWS 7 to 12, FS's $400 price tag for JAWS 12 from 7 looks cheap.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Karen Hughes
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

who ever said anything about fair. they do this to everyone. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12



Full price! You mean FS doesn't even give you a break if you are already
a loyal JAWS user? So somebody who is using an older version of JAWS
like
JAWS 7 or 8 would pay the same $1000 for JAWS 12 as somebody who has
never
used JAWS before? This just doesn't seem fair.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked
to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an
SMA
at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS
12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP
Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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Re: [Bulk] upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Dave...
 

Takes a few weeks. You can shorten the time by just downloading the
installer from the web site. It works either way.

Dave Carlson
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to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:43
Subject: [Bulk] Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12



Okay, here's a dumb question. If you upgrade your SMA online, will FS send
you an installation CD for the version of JAWS you are upgrading to? If so,
how long does it take for them to send it? The FS web site doesn't make
this clear.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Gerald went to the FS website and corrected what I was careful to say was
a
guess. If you count the cost of SMAs for those of us who stayed current
from
JAWS 7 to 12, FS's $400 price tag for JAWS 12 from 7 looks cheap.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Karen Hughes
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

who ever said anything about fair. they do this to everyone. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12



Full price! You mean FS doesn't even give you a break if you are already
a loyal JAWS user? So somebody who is using an older version of JAWS
like
JAWS 7 or 8 would pay the same $1000 for JAWS 12 as somebody who has
never
used JAWS before? This just doesn't seem fair.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked
to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an
SMA
at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS
12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP
Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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Re: [Bulk] upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Dave...
 

JAWS 13 is very likely set to release in November. It's been their pattern
for the past few years.
Dave Carlson
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to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marsha" <marcatony@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:58
Subject: [Bulk] Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Hi
There are things that can no longer be done with Jaws 10, which I am still
happy with in general. So even though it appears that Jaws 12 still has
problems, we are moving on to Jaws 13?

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Re: [Bulk] upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Dave...
 

Karen wrote: who ever said anything about fair. they do this to everyone.

Then that's not only fair, it's non-discriminatory.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:40
Subject: [Bulk] Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


who ever said anything about fair. they do this to everyone. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12



Full price! You mean FS doesn't even give you a break if you are already
a loyal JAWS user? So somebody who is using an older version of JAWS like
JAWS 7 or 8 would pay the same $1000 for JAWS 12 as somebody who has never
used JAWS before? This just doesn't seem fair.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA
at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS
12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP
Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.



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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws 12

Dave...
 

Dave Durbur,

Good observations. There is a utility that will tell you what hotkeys are
assigned to what shortcuts and start menu icons.

Hot Key Detective. I think you can download it from the jfwlite web site.

Dave Carlson
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to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:55
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically assign
CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J,
to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I had assigned the
short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and press CTRL+ALT+J and
waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded. Well, in my example,
JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key
combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to assign a
short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to another
program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give you another
opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11
toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will start
up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may
not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with
the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old version
and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to
Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is
the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to do
is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke.
Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

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Re: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines

Dave...
 

Yes, stick to JAWS 11 on your XP machine. Don't fix what isn't broken. Wait
and see what JAWS 13 does.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:27
Subject: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still use
XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all
completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine, and
still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and that
too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now on
the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared
more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my
remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7 laptop
the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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another question about programs that work with JFW

bill Deatherage <billd@...>
 

Hello,
I now have JFW 12 on my computer and am running windows 7. I was wondering about eudorah. if they still have a free mail program and do they have a version that works with Windows 7?
I used to use it back in the days of Dos.
Thanks in advance.
Bill Deatherage
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Re: What to do about XP machines

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Pat.

Obviously, there are varying opinions here, so in the end, I guess I'll just make the most informed decision I can, and hope for the best.

This kind of thing keeps the mind young, at least! (grin)

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Byrne" <k9jau@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:
Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback I get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7 laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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Re: What to do about XP machines

Robert Westfall <rawest.2063@...>
 

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working just
fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:
Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

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Re: What to do about XP machines

Pat Byrne
 

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:

Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback I get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7 laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Adrian Spratt
 

You're right, no more guesses. I started a bad thread on the viral Net.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Oh brother, Adrian, don't guess on that. They cap it after a couple
upgrade steps, can't remember if it is two or three but it certainly
wouldn't be full price. The actual price depends on whether their friend is
upgrading the Home or the Professional version.

Steve

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12


Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA
at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
additional charge. In addition, many listers have reported flaws in JAWS
12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
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