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Dear Friends,
I too also want to unsubscribe from this list, and I am finding it very dificult.

The link you provided did not work.

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Thank you in advance

With Best Regards,
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Thank you kindly but I have tried all the obvious/given links to unsubscribe and they have not worked!

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Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Brandon Keith (Biggs) <brandonboy13@...>
 

Exactly!
My key stroke command is about as ridiculous as the hundreds of "Please unsubscribe me!" emails I've gotten from this one list.
And that Google search idea sounds like what I need! LOL It might not be so far fetched as it seems...
We'll just use ctrl+shift+u+n+6+home+escape as our new "Unsubscribe command. That should keep people quiet :)...
Thanks,

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From: "Chris Smart" <@ve3rwj>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:16 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Brandon, sorry but your unsubscribe key command idea is rediculous. I hope you were kidding! *LOL* If that was your intent, great; really funny post! While we're at it, let's add a function that, every time it senses someone typing the phrase "How do I". Once detected, the Jaws voice could then pipe up and say "did you check online help and the web first?"

OH, and of course we need a single keystroke to fire up google and somehow read your mind and determine what you are trying to find out, type it into the Google search box, and then take you to the best search result, all automatically. Of course, such a mind reading function would have to filter out all the "oh god please don't punish me, you are all wondrous and knowing", and "oh dear, how many calories are in this?" and other such mental musings.


People just need to either 1. make a note of how they joined the list in the first place, or 2. keep the instructional email sent to them when they joined, or 3. read the bottom of every freaking post to the list and follow the link.

If you can operate a keyboard, surely you can engage your brain enough to do one of those things.

It amuses me that most of these "you must unsubscribe me now or else" tantroms come from people in the USA, where being able to look after oneself is a prised political principle. Get the government out of my life, but oh, if only they could unsubscribe me from the list...

That initial email from the list when you join usually contains a phrase like "keep this in a safe place, it's important! You may wish to refer to it later!" I guess nobody actually does that.

Chris

At 06:37 PM 9/9/2011, you wrote:
It has just been on this list where I've received hundreds of emails dealing with unsuscribing... Maybe it would be a good and valuable thing if FS made a key command to unsubscribe from a mailing list. It would have to be rather complex, but I think It would be worth FS's investment because it appears so many Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from Email lists.
Either that or could the Admins please block all emails that come into this list that contain the word "Subscribe*"?
Thank you,

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Re: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

Tom Lange
 

Hi Chris,
I'm quite familiar with the quick navigation keys and use them all the time. My question was really about those desktop gadgets; I understand that they can get you weather info, sports, news of various sorts, and so on. Further, I was wondering whether they are prone to the same kinds of problems as ResearchIt?


Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <@ve3rwj>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: Research It and NFL NCAA scores


Well, what functions do we have to help us skim through web pages? I'm thinking of things like the quick keys to jump by heading,, list, etc. that might help.
The find command seems appropriate here too.

Check out the following in Jaws Help:
Using the Internet with Jaws, > Navigating Web Pages > and all the things listed in there. Placemarkers and custom labels might be two items of interest.

Chris

At 10:27 PM 9/9/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
Okay, good points, but the answer begs the question: where can you get the scores and schedules that you want without wading through a lot of extra clutter? As much as I've used and liked ResearchIt, there's gotta be some other way to get that info that isn't too much of a pain in the arse. I also wonder about those desktop gadgets in Windows 7: isn't there one that will get that information? Accessibility issues aside, is such a gadget prone to the same problems that ResearchIT has? Just curious.

Tom

----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: Research It and NFL NCAA scores




Hello there;

Here's a message received from freedom scientific regarding research it,

On Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:38 PM

Greetings all,

Nobody is more disappointed to have lost the MLB option in Research It more
than I am. Especially when you consider the tight race in the American
League East where my Sox are doing battle once again with the Yanks and the
Rays. Anyway, here is the scoop on what has happened.
About a week or 10 days ago, ESPN made modifications to how they expose
sports results in an effort to block many different products that had been
tapping into ESPN to get the info in real time and display it. We believe
this was done in an effort to get more organizations to purchase access to
the data and prevent anyone from getting it otherwise. This will not only
impact MLB on Research It, but all of the sports.

We have been investigating the MLB site itself and many other places like
YAHOO but so far, have not found any site that exposes the information away
that will work. We are also reaching out to ESPN and trying to explain who
we are and what we are doing in order to see if we can get them to work with
us. If any of you who use Research It to get access to daily scores would be
willing, please write to them at:
https://r.espn.go.com/members/contact/index

Please be polite and remember, they are not targeting JAWS and Research It
when they make these changes. It would be helpful to explain to them how
beneficial it has been to use Research It in order to get the scores and
schedules without having to weed through all the extra information presented
on very busy web pages. I'm sure that together, we can all work this out and
FS will get this fixed and working again as quickly as possible.

Regards,
Eric Damery
www.freedomscientific.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:10 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

Dave,
Dream on, how about JAWS 15 or so?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

I'm sure you're going to have to wait until JAWS 13 is out. I doubt they
will do any more revisions to 12.

Any dissenters?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Pound" <dpound@...>
To: <jfw@...>
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Subject: Research It and NFL NCAA scores


Anyone know when FS is going to release an update that fixes research it for

NFL and NCAA scores?

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Re: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

I must add that I share your frustration. It would be nice if we could visually skim a screen of information, using nothing more than its layout to help us find what we are looking for. That would be so nice!
I probably come across a situation every single day where a sighted person could accomplish the task more quickly, simply with a noncommittal glance and a few clicks. It bugs me that most sighted folks know very little about their computers, what the various screen elements are called, and yet, they can get along just fine in most situations.

For better or worse, we just have to learn a little more about how our computers operate to get things done quickly and efficiently. It sucks, but there it is.

Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Nononono, what we definitely do not need is more hand holding!
Give people a single keystroke, and then it'll be "but my keyboard is different. where do I find this keystroke?"

At 01:29 AM 9/10/2011, you wrote:
Because Jaws users are the only ones who have the problem. I don't see the same problems with sighted people, users of Window Eyes, NVDA or even the silly screen readers Google and Microsoft try to put out.
If FS cared they would take a look at what separates Jaws users from the rest of the community. Obviously Unsubscribing from this list is something many users have a problem with.
I just want these dumb Unsubscribe emails to stop! Because Jaws users are, I'm pretty sure, able to hit a key stroke, I believe that a simple script to click on this link and hit the unsubscribe button would solve the problem admirably.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:36 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Again Brandon, I fail to see your logic: Why would FS care at all that JAWS
users are not capable of unsubscribing from a list that FS has nothing to do
with?

Take a deep breath, and think about that for a while.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 17:53
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?


I never said FS had anything to do with people not being able to
unsubscribe.
I was just saying that it appears that only Jaws users have problems
unsubscribing from their mailing list. So it might be in FS's best interest
to take a closer look at this problem and come up with a solution.
Because obviously something is wrong between the Jaws user and the JFW
Mailing list. This unsubscribing problem is not on any other list I'm on,
but it is huge on this list.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

Check out
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithbiggs
Also add me on facebook!
brandonkeith
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=675097942
And for my resume go to:
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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:39 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

FS has nothing to do with it. But it might help if there was a footer
added
to tell users to look at the footer for information on where to go to
unsubscribe.

In other words, it's there for anyone to look at.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 15:37
Subject: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?


It has just been on this list where I've received hundreds of emails
dealing
with unsuscribing... Maybe it would be a good and valuable thing if FS
made
a key command to unsubscribe from a mailing list. It would have to be
rather
complex, but I think It would be worth FS's investment because it appears
so
many Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from Email lists.
Either that or could the Admins please block all emails that come into
this
list that contain the word "Subscribe*"?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

Check out
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithbiggs
Also add me on facebook!
brandonkeith
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=675097942
And for my resume go to:
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From: "VICTORIA R DEMPSEY" <vrd29@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:27 PM
To: <jfw@...>
Subject: unsubscribe

Hi all,
Please take my address out of your personal e-mail list. I am unable to
manage all the mail!
Thank you in advance.

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Re: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Well, what functions do we have to help us skim through web pages? I'm thinking of things like the quick keys to jump by heading,, list, etc. that might help.
The find command seems appropriate here too.

Check out the following in Jaws Help:
Using the Internet with Jaws, > Navigating Web Pages > and all the things listed in there. Placemarkers and custom labels might be two items of interest.

Chris

At 10:27 PM 9/9/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
Okay, good points, but the answer begs the question: where can you get the scores and schedules that you want without wading through a lot of extra clutter? As much as I've used and liked ResearchIt, there's gotta be some other way to get that info that isn't too much of a pain in the arse. I also wonder about those desktop gadgets in Windows 7: isn't there one that will get that information? Accessibility issues aside, is such a gadget prone to the same problems that ResearchIT has? Just curious.

Tom

----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: Research It and NFL NCAA scores




Hello there;

Here's a message received from freedom scientific regarding research it,

On Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:38 PM

Greetings all,

Nobody is more disappointed to have lost the MLB option in Research It more
than I am. Especially when you consider the tight race in the American
League East where my Sox are doing battle once again with the Yanks and the
Rays. Anyway, here is the scoop on what has happened.
About a week or 10 days ago, ESPN made modifications to how they expose
sports results in an effort to block many different products that had been
tapping into ESPN to get the info in real time and display it. We believe
this was done in an effort to get more organizations to purchase access to
the data and prevent anyone from getting it otherwise. This will not only
impact MLB on Research It, but all of the sports.

We have been investigating the MLB site itself and many other places like
YAHOO but so far, have not found any site that exposes the information away
that will work. We are also reaching out to ESPN and trying to explain who
we are and what we are doing in order to see if we can get them to work with
us. If any of you who use Research It to get access to daily scores would be
willing, please write to them at:
https://r.espn.go.com/members/contact/index

Please be polite and remember, they are not targeting JAWS and Research It
when they make these changes. It would be helpful to explain to them how
beneficial it has been to use Research It in order to get the scores and
schedules without having to weed through all the extra information presented
on very busy web pages. I'm sure that together, we can all work this out and
FS will get this fixed and working again as quickly as possible.

Regards,
Eric Damery
www.freedomscientific.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:10 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

Dave,
Dream on, how about JAWS 15 or so?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

I'm sure you're going to have to wait until JAWS 13 is out. I doubt they
will do any more revisions to 12.

Any dissenters?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Pound" <dpound@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 7:33
Subject: Research It and NFL NCAA scores


Anyone know when FS is going to release an update that fixes research it for

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Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Yeah, it doesn't say much for us as a group, does it? *LOL*
I'm on several lists containing mostly sighted people, and far more of them - many thousands in fact. And this never ever comes up!

At 08:53 PM 9/9/2011, you wrote:
I never said FS had anything to do with people not being able to unsubscribe.
I was just saying that it appears that only Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from their mailing list. So it might be in FS's best interest to take a closer look at this problem and come up with a solution.
Because obviously something is wrong between the Jaws user and the JFW Mailing list. This unsubscribing problem is not on any other list I'm on, but it is huge on this list.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

Check out
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithbiggs
Also add me on facebook!
brandonkeith
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=675097942
And for my resume go to:
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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:39 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

FS has nothing to do with it. But it might help if there was a footer added
to tell users to look at the footer for information on where to go to
unsubscribe.

In other words, it's there for anyone to look at.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 15:37
Subject: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?


It has just been on this list where I've received hundreds of emails dealing
with unsuscribing... Maybe it would be a good and valuable thing if FS made
a key command to unsubscribe from a mailing list. It would have to be rather
complex, but I think It would be worth FS's investment because it appears so
many Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from Email lists.
Either that or could the Admins please block all emails that come into this
list that contain the word "Subscribe*"?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

Check out
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithbiggs
Also add me on facebook!
brandonkeith
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=675097942
And for my resume go to:
http://www.sfcasting.com/brandonkeith

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From: "VICTORIA R DEMPSEY" <vrd29@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:27 PM
To: <jfw@...>
Subject: unsubscribe

Hi all,
Please take my address out of your personal e-mail list. I am unable to
manage all the mail!
Thank you in advance.

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Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Dave, we obviously need a function to give people electric shocks through their pinky fingers *LOL*

At 08:39 PM 9/9/2011, you wrote:
FS has nothing to do with it. But it might help if there was a footer added
to tell users to look at the footer for information on where to go to
unsubscribe.

In other words, it's there for anyone to look at.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 15:37
Subject: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?


It has just been on this list where I've received hundreds of emails dealing
with unsuscribing... Maybe it would be a good and valuable thing if FS made
a key command to unsubscribe from a mailing list. It would have to be rather
complex, but I think It would be worth FS's investment because it appears so
many Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from Email lists.
Either that or could the Admins please block all emails that come into this
list that contain the word "Subscribe*"?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

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From: "VICTORIA R DEMPSEY" <vrd29@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:27 PM
To: <jfw@...>
Subject: unsubscribe

Hi all,
Please take my address out of your personal e-mail list. I am
unable to
manage all the mail!
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Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Brandon, sorry but your unsubscribe key command idea is rediculous. I hope you were kidding! *LOL* If that was your intent, great; really funny post! While we're at it, let's add a function that, every time it senses someone typing the phrase "How do I". Once detected, the Jaws voice could then pipe up and say "did you check online help and the web first?"

OH, and of course we need a single keystroke to fire up google and somehow read your mind and determine what you are trying to find out, type it into the Google search box, and then take you to the best search result, all automatically. Of course, such a mind reading function would have to filter out all the "oh god please don't punish me, you are all wondrous and knowing", and "oh dear, how many calories are in this?" and other such mental musings.


People just need to either 1. make a note of how they joined the list in the first place, or 2. keep the instructional email sent to them when they joined, or 3. read the bottom of every freaking post to the list and follow the link.

If you can operate a keyboard, surely you can engage your brain enough to do one of those things.

It amuses me that most of these "you must unsubscribe me now or else" tantroms come from people in the USA, where being able to look after oneself is a prised political principle. Get the government out of my life, but oh, if only they could unsubscribe me from the list...

That initial email from the list when you join usually contains a phrase like "keep this in a safe place, it's important! You may wish to refer to it later!" I guess nobody actually does that.

Chris

At 06:37 PM 9/9/2011, you wrote:
It has just been on this list where I've received hundreds of emails dealing with unsuscribing... Maybe it would be a good and valuable thing if FS made a key command to unsubscribe from a mailing list. It would have to be rather complex, but I think It would be worth FS's investment because it appears so many Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from Email lists.
Either that or could the Admins please block all emails that come into this list that contain the word "Subscribe*"?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

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From: "VICTORIA R DEMPSEY" <vrd29@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:27 PM
To: <jfw@...>
Subject: unsubscribe

Hi all,
Please take my address out of your personal e-mail list. I am unable to manage all the mail!
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Re: unsubscribe

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Victoria, if you are trying to leave the list, go to
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Chris

At 06:27 PM 9/9/2011, you wrote:
Hi all,
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Howard <hwolcott@...>
 

hi john:
I wonder if this is the breakthrough jonathan mosen mentioned at the beginning of the latest podcast?


howard wolcott

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From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:47 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

I'm totally serious, at least that's what the JAWS site says. It works with graphical text and they used a setup file to demonstrate it. I'm trying to find out more, but there isn't much info about it now. Guess I'll find out next week.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Hi,
Are you pulling my leg?JAWS 13 will have OCR function? Really? How extensive will this functionality be, and what's to become of Open Book, then?

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I like the OCR functions Jaws will have. I wonder if that portion is scriptable. That would be so awesome.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard" <hwolcott@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


hi john and all:
no disrespect, john, but I will wait for an official announcement from FS.
usuallty there is a podcast released before even a public beta.
there is still no podcast yet.


howard wolcott

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From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:02 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...>
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week with ocr

Peter op t Hof
 

Oh,

Not special. The Cobra screenreader has it already for 1,5 years.
Basicly the screenreader has to include it as a childprogram or submodule, so every screenreader can have it.

My humble opinion.

Gr,

Peter.

Op 10-9-2011 5:47, John Martyn schreef:

I'm totally serious, at least that's what the JAWS site says. It works with graphical text and they used a setup file to demonstrate it. I'm trying to find out more, but there isn't much info about it now. Guess I'll find out next week.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Hi,
Are you pulling my leg?JAWS 13 will have OCR function? Really? How extensive will this functionality be, and what's to become of Open Book, then?

Tom


----- Original Message ----- From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I like the OCR functions Jaws will have. I wonder if that portion is scriptable. That would be so awesome.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard" <hwolcott@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


hi john and all:
no disrespect, john, but I will wait for an official announcement from FS.
usuallty there is a podcast released before even a public beta.
there is still no podcast yet.


howard wolcott

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From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:02 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...>
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
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Re: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

john.falter
 

I use Research it every day for weather, cnn, bb news and sometimes for Wikipedia and Wiktionary.

----- Original Message -----
From: <northstar1950@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: Research It and NFL NCAA scores


research-it will never be reliable, should be removed from jaws altogether for my part. never use it and its useless code.


Legend has it that on Friday 9/9/2011 05:36 PM, George B said:
Why don't you just do it yourself and go to si.com that stands for sports
illustrated and then choose cfb which stands for college football and then
bookmark that page and then just look at the scores they are updated all the
time and current, and you all just stop all the winning...

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 08:10
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

Dave,
Dream on, how about JAWS 15 or so?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...
jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Research It and NFL NCAA scores

I'm sure you're going to have to wait until JAWS 13 is out. I doubt
they
will do any more revisions to 12.

Any dissenters?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Pound" <dpound@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 7:33
Subject: Research It and NFL NCAA scores


Anyone know when FS is going to release an update that fixes research
it for

NFL and NCAA scores?

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Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Howard <hwolcott@...>
 

hi brandon:
since this is a jaws list, of course some people may have problems unsubbing with jaws.
but dave is right.
james should put a footer at the bottom for unsubbing.
that would make a lot easier for everyone.
if you're not using jaws, then why are you here?
at least, that is what it seems from your email.


howard wolcott

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From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:53 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

I never said FS had anything to do with people not being able to unsubscribe.
I was just saying that it appears that only Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from their mailing list. So it might be in FS's best interest to take a closer look at this problem and come up with a solution.
Because obviously something is wrong between the Jaws user and the JFW Mailing list. This unsubscribing problem is not on any other list I'm on, but it is huge on this list.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

Check out
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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:39 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

FS has nothing to do with it. But it might help if there was a footer added
to tell users to look at the footer for information on where to go to
unsubscribe.

In other words, it's there for anyone to look at.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 15:37
Subject: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?


It has just been on this list where I've received hundreds of emails dealing
with unsuscribing... Maybe it would be a good and valuable thing if FS made
a key command to unsubscribe from a mailing list. It would have to be rather
complex, but I think It would be worth FS's investment because it appears so
many Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from Email lists.
Either that or could the Admins please block all emails that come into this
list that contain the word "Subscribe*"?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

Check out
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithbiggs
Also add me on facebook!
brandonkeith
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From: "VICTORIA R DEMPSEY" <vrd29@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:27 PM
To: <jfw@...>
Subject: unsubscribe

Hi all,
Please take my address out of your personal e-mail list. I am unable to
manage all the mail!
Thank you in advance.

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Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Brandon Keith (Biggs) <brandonboy13@...>
 

Because Jaws users are the only ones who have the problem. I don't see the same problems with sighted people, users of Window Eyes, NVDA or even the silly screen readers Google and Microsoft try to put out.
If FS cared they would take a look at what separates Jaws users from the rest of the community. Obviously Unsubscribing from this list is something many users have a problem with.
I just want these dumb Unsubscribe emails to stop! Because Jaws users are, I'm pretty sure, able to hit a key stroke, I believe that a simple script to click on this link and hit the unsubscribe button would solve the problem admirably.
Thanks,

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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:36 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Again Brandon, I fail to see your logic: Why would FS care at all that JAWS
users are not capable of unsubscribing from a list that FS has nothing to do
with?

Take a deep breath, and think about that for a while.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 17:53
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?


I never said FS had anything to do with people not being able to
unsubscribe.
I was just saying that it appears that only Jaws users have problems
unsubscribing from their mailing list. So it might be in FS's best interest
to take a closer look at this problem and come up with a solution.
Because obviously something is wrong between the Jaws user and the JFW
Mailing list. This unsubscribing problem is not on any other list I'm on,
but it is huge on this list.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

Check out
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Also add me on facebook!
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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:39 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

FS has nothing to do with it. But it might help if there was a footer
added
to tell users to look at the footer for information on where to go to
unsubscribe.

In other words, it's there for anyone to look at.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 15:37
Subject: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?


It has just been on this list where I've received hundreds of emails
dealing
with unsuscribing... Maybe it would be a good and valuable thing if FS
made
a key command to unsubscribe from a mailing list. It would have to be
rather
complex, but I think It would be worth FS's investment because it appears
so
many Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from Email lists.
Either that or could the Admins please block all emails that come into
this
list that contain the word "Subscribe*"?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

Check out
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithbiggs
Also add me on facebook!
brandonkeith
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From: "VICTORIA R DEMPSEY" <vrd29@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:27 PM
To: <jfw@...>
Subject: unsubscribe

Hi all,
Please take my address out of your personal e-mail list. I am unable to
manage all the mail!
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Tom Lange
 

Hey John,
Do you have a direct url to that info? I'd like to check it out.

Thanks,
Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I'm totally serious, at least that's what the JAWS site says. It works with graphical text and they used a setup file to demonstrate it. I'm trying to find out more, but there isn't much info about it now. Guess I'll find out next week.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Hi,
Are you pulling my leg?JAWS 13 will have OCR function? Really? How extensive will this functionality be, and what's to become of Open Book, then?

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I like the OCR functions Jaws will have. I wonder if that portion is scriptable. That would be so awesome.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard" <hwolcott@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


hi john and all:
no disrespect, john, but I will wait for an official announcement from FS.
usuallty there is a podcast released before even a public beta.
there is still no podcast yet.


howard wolcott

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From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:02 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...>
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
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Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

Dave...
 

Again Brandon, I fail to see your logic: Why would FS care at all that JAWS
users are not capable of unsubscribing from a list that FS has nothing to do
with?

Take a deep breath, and think about that for a while.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 17:53
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?


I never said FS had anything to do with people not being able to
unsubscribe.
I was just saying that it appears that only Jaws users have problems
unsubscribing from their mailing list. So it might be in FS's best interest
to take a closer look at this problem and come up with a solution.
Because obviously something is wrong between the Jaws user and the JFW
Mailing list. This unsubscribing problem is not on any other list I'm on,
but it is huge on this list.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:39 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Subject: Re: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?

FS has nothing to do with it. But it might help if there was a footer
added
to tell users to look at the footer for information on where to go to
unsubscribe.

In other words, it's there for anyone to look at.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 15:37
Subject: Why do people have so many problems unsubscribing on this list?


It has just been on this list where I've received hundreds of emails
dealing
with unsuscribing... Maybe it would be a good and valuable thing if FS
made
a key command to unsubscribe from a mailing list. It would have to be
rather
complex, but I think It would be worth FS's investment because it appears
so
many Jaws users have problems unsubscribing from Email lists.
Either that or could the Admins please block all emails that come into
this
list that contain the word "Subscribe*"?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs

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From: "VICTORIA R DEMPSEY" <vrd29@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:27 PM
To: <jfw@...>
Subject: unsubscribe

Hi all,
Please take my address out of your personal e-mail list. I am unable to
manage all the mail!
Thank you in advance.

vrd29@...
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Gary King
 

John,
Where on the FS site is the demonstration? Sounds like it may be on-screen OCR that will enable the user to work with programs that have graphical text on buttons and other controls. I think one of the minor screen readers had this feature, but I never tried it. Was it Cobra? Not sure of the spelling!

Gary King
w4wkz@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I'm totally serious, at least that's what the JAWS site says. It works with graphical text and they used a setup file to demonstrate it. I'm trying to find out more, but there isn't much info about it now. Guess I'll find out next week.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


Hi,
Are you pulling my leg?JAWS 13 will have OCR function? Really? How extensive will this functionality be, and what's to become of Open Book, then?

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I like the OCR functions Jaws will have. I wonder if that portion is scriptable. That would be so awesome.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard" <hwolcott@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


hi john and all:
no disrespect, john, but I will wait for an official announcement from FS.
usuallty there is a podcast released before even a public beta.
there is still no podcast yet.


howard wolcott

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From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:02 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...>
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts. Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Kerri <shalom75@...>
 

Can you say bloated?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi,
Are you pulling my leg?JAWS 13 will have OCR function? Really? How extensive
will this functionality be, and what's to become of Open Book, then?

Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


I like the OCR functions Jaws will have. I wonder if that portion is
scriptable. That would be so awesome.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard" <hwolcott@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 13 out next week


hi john and all:
no disrespect, john, but I will wait for an official announcement from
FS.
usuallty there is a podcast released before even a public beta.
there is still no podcast yet.


howard wolcott

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From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:02 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...>
Subject: Jaws 13 out next week

Hi all,
I will be among the beta testers out there. Is anyone else going to try
out the beta that comes out next week? I have to since I write scripts.
Does anyone have a list of changes they are making with JAWS 13?
Thanks in advanced,
John Martyn
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