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moderated nesting levels on web pages

Don H
 

Jaws announces nesting levels on web pages. What exactly is a nesting level?


moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Mario
 

no. keyboard help says that insert+j "Brings the JAWS Window into the foreground and gives it focus."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:26 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu
When you press, Insert  + J, you open the Jaws context menu.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws context menu

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that
work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows
context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10.  The applications
key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard
with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar.  The keys are from left to
right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Pearson <mailto:dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
*Subject:* Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu?  Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Mike B.
 


When you press, Insert  + J, you open the Jaws context menu.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10.  The applications key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar.  The keys are from left to right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu?  Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson






moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Richard Turner
 

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10.  The applications key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar.  The keys are from left to right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu?  Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson






moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Mike B.
 

You can press the applications key or Shift + F10.  The applications key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar.  The keys are from left to right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu?  Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson






moderated Re: changing punctuation levels on the fly

CJ &AA MAY
 

However, for me personally I can only get this new shortcut to work if I use the righthand shift key, but others don’t seem to have this problem.

 

Alison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: 04 December 2020 11:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: changing punctuation levels on the fly

 

In jaws 2021,  the new keystroke added to do this is jaws key (insert) plus shift plus 2 from alphanumeric  keyboard. Bear in mind that jaws key plus 2 alone, sets the typing echo level.

 

Leo
 
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 12/3/2020 11:20 PM, tom x wrote:

Hi,


My W10 desktop had to have a clean install and so am currently putting everything back but have forgotten some of the commands etc. This is why a couple of questions appear below.


In Jaws 21, is there a command where the level of punctuation can be changed temporarily  and then changed back when the task has been completed?


Are the changes in the power settings still important for the latest Jaws?  If so, can someone post a list of what to do?


Thanks a lot


Tom










moderated Repeat that, please?

Mark
 

Are there commands to have JAWS repeat what the tutor and message voice said? Or just to repeat what it said about the content type, content state or content attributes? 


moderated Jaws context menu

David Pearson
 

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu? Using Dell desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


moderated Re: changing punctuation levels on the fly

Leo
 

In jaws 2021,  the new keystroke added to do this is jaws key (insert) plus shift plus 2 from alphanumeric  keyboard. Bear in mind that jaws key plus 2 alone, sets the typing echo level.


Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 12/3/2020 11:20 PM, tom x wrote:

Hi,


My W10 desktop had to have a clean install and so am currently putting everything back but have forgotten some of the commands etc. This is why a couple of questions appear below.


In Jaws 21, is there a command where the level of punctuation can be changed temporarily  and then changed back when the task has been completed?


Are the changes in the power settings still important for the latest Jaws?  If so, can someone post a list of what to do?


Thanks a lot


Tom











moderated changing punctuation levels on the fly

tom x
 

Hi,


My W10 desktop had to have a clean install and so am currently putting everything back but have forgotten some of the commands etc. This is why a couple of questions appear below.


In Jaws 21, is there a command where the level of punctuation can be changed temporarily  and then changed back when the task has been completed?


Are the changes in the power settings still important for the latest Jaws?  If so, can someone post a list of what to do?


Thanks a lot


Tom


moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

Dani Pagador
 

@Don, where do I find the Enhanced Edit setting?
@Madison, That's why I don't use Edge. The Edit fields seem to play
nicely in Brave. I can use the arrow keys to read through what I've
put in to an edit field and fix as I need to. I can also see what I
type on my BrailleEdge, something that doesn't happen in Edge.

More Later,
Dani

On 12/3/20, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
I could be wrong but I had the same kind of issue with jaws and
thunderbird. Fixed the problem by making sure enhanced edit was enabled
in jaws.


On 12/3/2020 8:24 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading
which
isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I
type in
an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read
what
I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't
know
what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it,
and even
when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so
when I
type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any
settings
within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems?
If
there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email
and I
have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any
site,
I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest
Edge,
and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do
to
fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any
help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks
Madison












moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

Adrian Spratt
 

Madison,

I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade.

As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can afford to.

Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email program you're actually using?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edge and Jaws question

Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: A weird behavior with radio buttons in Edge with JAWS 2020 on a site.

Adrian Spratt
 

Where there’s a choice between using the return key and the spacebar, I go with the latter. It seems to have fewer potential consequences.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A weird behavior with radio buttons in Edge with JAWS 2020 on a site.

 

Hi.

 

I’ve never encountered what I’ll describe. I went to a site to take a test for a potential job. It was multiple choice, and you selected the answer from a set of four radio buttons. Usually, all I’d do was hit ENTER when I had focus on the radio button I wanted, and it’s selected. Not with this site. I’d hit ENTER, forms mode was active, then I’d have to arrow to another choice and back to make it stick. I’d like to know why I had to do so? I’m using JAWS 2020 and the latest Windows 10 20H2. I’m not sure about Edge, because I don’t know if it auto updates.

 

Thanks in advance for any ideas. It’s not a big deal, but I am curious.

 

Kevin Minor and Jilly


moderated A weird behavior with radio buttons in Edge with JAWS 2020 on a site.

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I’ve never encountered what I’ll describe. I went to a site to take a test for a potential job. It was multiple choice, and you selected the answer from a set of four radio buttons. Usually, all I’d do was hit ENTER when I had focus on the radio button I wanted, and it’s selected. Not with this site. I’d hit ENTER, forms mode was active, then I’d have to arrow to another choice and back to make it stick. I’d like to know why I had to do so? I’m using JAWS 2020 and the latest Windows 10 20H2. I’m not sure about Edge, because I don’t know if it auto updates.

 

Thanks in advance for any ideas. It’s not a big deal, but I am curious.

 

Kevin Minor and Jilly


moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

Don H
 

I could be wrong but I had the same kind of issue with jaws and thunderbird. Fixed the problem by making sure enhanced edit was enabled in jaws.

On 12/3/2020 8:24 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which
isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in
an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what
I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know
what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even
when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I
type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings
within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If
there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I
have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site,
I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge,
and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to
fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any
help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

Milton Ota
 

Sorry to say, it sounds like you need to update your windows 10 and JAWS as
you probably have incompatibility issues.

Without the updates you may have to live with the problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 8:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Edge and Jaws question

Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading
which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I
type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and
read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I
don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it
saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box
with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in
there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can
change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be
changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email
address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a
small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10
version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these
issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions
anyone can provide me!! Thanks
Madison


moderated Edge and Jaws question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which
isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in
an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what
I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know
what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even
when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I
type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings
within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If
there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I
have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site,
I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge,
and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to
fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any
help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks
Madison


moderated Edge and Jaws question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which
isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in
an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what
I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know
what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even
when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I
type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings
within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If
there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I
have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site,
I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge,
and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to
fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any
help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: Looking for text with Bold or Italics

Justin Williams
 

Okay, I'll practice with advanced fine, with the way you just showed, as that I usually use the control f.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for text with Bold or Italics

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 02:21 PM, Justin Williams wrote:

Doesn't f6 do the same thing?

-
Not for me.  It will throw you back into the Navigation Panel, which is a find function of its own, and only if it's visible.  If it's not visible, I get nothing out of F6.  And if the navigation panel is visible, CTRL+F will throw you to the edit box in it as well.

I stick with ALT+H,FD,A  to get the Advanced Find Dialog box to open, as no matter what else happens to be on or off display, that gets it every time.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Looking for text with Bold or Italics

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 02:21 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
Doesn't f6 do the same thing?
-
Not for me.  It will throw you back into the Navigation Panel, which is a find function of its own, and only if it's visible.  If it's not visible, I get nothing out of F6.  And if the navigation panel is visible, CTRL+F will throw you to the edit box in it as well.

I stick with ALT+H,FD,A  to get the Advanced Find Dialog box to open, as no matter what else happens to be on or off display, that gets it every time.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

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