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moderated Re: Android users list

 

At one time I would have said the blindphones list, but it's been shut down by its original group owner (which is not a surprise - I left because he was just so picky and unpredictable about what could or could not be posted).  I find it sad when there's an active community that an owner refuses to pass off to another owner if they no longer wish to manage it, and just shut it down without (or even with) warning.

The group that sprung up to replace it that has the most activity on Groups.io is PhonesForTheBlind.  There are also android-iOS and AndroidVision, both of which have fewer members and a lot less traffic.

There are likely others elsewhere, and I look forward to what others may offer.
-- 

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated Android users list

Gene Stevens
 

Does anyone know of a good blind Android users list?    

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

Leo
 

well I guess you're right, I couldn't get the input indicator off the taskbar.

as for choosing an input method to always use as default, it just wouldn't fill my need since I needs my keyboard to precisely use a different input language depending on what I have to write...

I believe a script allowing for switching back and forth among specific input languages would be great... too bad I cannot how to write a script...


On 12/28/2019 5:16 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Lev,

            The keyboard/language indicator in the taskbar is one of the oddities, in that you cannot choose for it not to be in the taskbar if you have installed multiple language packs.  I just checked the Select which icons appear in the taskbar settings and its nowhere to be found.  It showed up as soon as I had added additional language packs (in this case, variants of English).

             Things have changed somewhat since I added these, but under 1909 it's under Settings, Time & Language, Language Pane, Add a preferred language button.  There's also a new-to-me link for Choose an input method to always use as default.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated jaws and band ina box help

Michelle's Home Emails
 


moderated Re: Optik Book scanner

patrick.kwanashie@...
 

I am using the Plustek Opticbook 3800 on my Windows 10 machine. I bought it last year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Optik Book scanner

I have the Plustek Opticbook 4800, faster and does work with Windows 10 without difficulty.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Optik Book scanner

hmmm, I have been using it with Windows 10, however I am sure I had to do some funkiness with the driver, but its been a long time and I forget what happened -- maybe their tech support can help.

On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:26:20 -0500,
jredlichspeaks@... wrote:

I had one of those, and it was a great scanner. but it doesn't work with windows ten.
Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 7:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Optik Book scanner

Hi,
Years ago there was a product called a Plustek Opticbook 3600 book edge scanner. It’s claim to fame was a scanner bed which extended all the way to its front edge, thus allowing you to place the book’s binding right on the edge and lay pages completely flat. You get none of the typical “shadowing” associated with lying a book face-down and trying to get the very inside edges of the pages near the binding to scan accurately. It was a great concept.

Unfortunately I don’t think that product is still around.


On Dec 25, 2019, at 6:54 PM, Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:

Hello all,

Someone is highly recommending this scanner. I'm trying to research it, but wonder what the correct search-term for it is. I have found the words given as one word, two words, words both capitalized and not, with + in front of it, and all with different prices and features. The one I'm looking for is specially for scanning books, and has only 3 buttons: black/white, color, and "Go."

I would appreciate any information anyone can share. Many thanks.

Marilyn















--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: link to download Amazon kindle

Jessica D
 

Hi,

 

Thanks so much!

 

I really appreciate all the assistance you’ve provided me whith my recent questions/issues.

 

Regards,

 

Jessica

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: link to download Amazon kindle

 

You might try this link for the latest version that works with NVDA or JAWS.

There is also a page that explains the accessibility features, which I will put after this download link:

https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/fd/kcp

 

Accessibility features:

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Dec 28, 2019, at 6:49 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

I’m trying to download kindle for pc.

 

I’ve searched for the correct lin twice, but it brings up a page from amazon that says something about charging me $0.00.

 

Is that the correct page?

 

Thanks,

If not, can someone please send me the correct link?

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

Jessica

 


moderated Re: eliminating a score ticker

Jim Fettgather
 

Hello, when I turned off announce live region updates in Quick Settings in Jaws, the ticker count down stopped, at least it did for me with Jaws 2019 and Google Chrome
Thanks.

From: Dean Martineau
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: eliminating a score ticker
 

I’m trying to see if there exists a way to eliminate speaking of an automatic score ticker that counts down every second of every game under way in the American Hockey League. You see this during games, which take place most evenings, on https://theahl.com/ It makes for a lot of unnecessary and distracting speech. I’ve tried a lot of settings and the ticker just keeps on monotonously speaking.

 

 

 


moderated Re: link to download Amazon kindle

Richard Turner
 

You might try this link for the latest version that works with NVDA or JAWS.
There is also a page that explains the accessibility features, which I will put after this download link:
https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/fd/kcp

Accessibility features:




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Dec 28, 2019, at 6:49 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

I’m trying to download kindle for pc.

 

I’ve searched for the correct lin twice, but it brings up a page from amazon that says something about charging me $0.00.

 

Is that the correct page?

 

Thanks,

If not, can someone please send me the correct link?

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

Jessica

 


moderated eliminating a score ticker

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I’m trying to see if there exists a way to eliminate speaking of an automatic score ticker that counts down every second of every game under way in the American Hockey League. You see this during games, which take place most evenings, on https://theahl.com/ It makes for a lot of unnecessary and distracting speech. I’ve tried a lot of settings and the ticker just keeps on monotonously speaking.

 

 

 


moderated link to download Amazon kindle

Jessica D
 

Hi,

 

I’m trying to download kindle for pc.

 

I’ve searched for the correct lin twice, but it brings up a page from amazon that says something about charging me $0.00.

 

Is that the correct page?

 

Thanks,

If not, can someone please send me the correct link?

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

Jessica

 


moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

 

Lev,

            The keyboard/language indicator in the taskbar is one of the oddities, in that you cannot choose for it not to be in the taskbar if you have installed multiple language packs.  I just checked the Select which icons appear in the taskbar settings and its nowhere to be found.  It showed up as soon as I had added additional language packs (in this case, variants of English).

             Things have changed somewhat since I added these, but under 1909 it's under Settings, Time & Language, Language Pane, Add a preferred language button.  There's also a new-to-me link for Choose an input method to always use as default.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

Leo
 

well thank you both, I already do what you guys suggested, but I was wondering if there was a single key stroke combination to verbalize the input keyboard language. I know that this is not as if it were a long long way but I was just wondering, anyway thanks.


Best,
   Leo.
On 12/28/2019 4:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Or you can check in your system tray, for me it says:

 

Tray Input Indicator - English (United States)

Or, if I switch to my German keyboard layout:

Tray Input Indicator - German (Germany)

 

I can press Jaws Key + F11 to bring up the system tray and press “T” to jump to that item and hear it read.

Of course I don’t usually do this because if I switch to German Eloquence speaks the letters I type in German.

 


moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

Leo
 

Hi, you can't find it probably because you haven't set up yet this icon to appear on the taskbar. In order to do it, go to windows settings, personalization, taskbar, select which icons appear on the taskbar.


Best,
   Leo.
On 12/28/2019 4:35 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

I don't find that when I press insert f11.  Perhaps because I use only English?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 12/28/2019 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Or you can check in your system tray, for me it says:

 

Tray Input Indicator - English (United States)

Or, if I switch to my German keyboard layout:

Tray Input Indicator - German (Germany)

 

I can press Jaws Key + F11 to bring up the system tray and press “T” to jump to that item and hear it read.

Of course I don’t usually do this because if I switch to German Eloquence speaks the letters I type in German.

 


moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

Maria Campbell
 

I don't find that when I press insert f11.  Perhaps because I use only English?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 12/28/2019 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Or you can check in your system tray, for me it says:

 

Tray Input Indicator - English (United States)

Or, if I switch to my German keyboard layout:

Tray Input Indicator - German (Germany)

 

I can press Jaws Key + F11 to bring up the system tray and press “T” to jump to that item and hear it read.

Of course I don’t usually do this because if I switch to German Eloquence speaks the letters I type in German.

 


moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

 

Or you can check in your system tray, for me it says:

 

Tray Input Indicator - English (United States)

Or, if I switch to my German keyboard layout:

Tray Input Indicator - German (Germany)

 

I can press Jaws Key + F11 to bring up the system tray and press “T” to jump to that item and hear it read.

Of course I don’t usually do this because if I switch to German Eloquence speaks the letters I type in German.

 


moderated Re: keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

 

If there isn't one, you could use Windows Key+Space to switch to the next input keyboard followed immediately by SHIFT + Windows Key + Space to jump back to what you were on.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated keyboard shortcut to announce input keyboard indicator?

Leo
 

Hello everyone,

is there a keyboard shortcut to verbalize the current keyboard language in windows 10?

I have my system tray set to show the input indicator; however, all too often it would be useful for me to know  what is the current input language on the fly,

-- if someone knew I would really appreciate any info about it.
--
Best,
   Leo.


moderated Re: Unable to activate button on web site

 

Have you tried Jaws Key + Control + Enter to see if it says something like “Change at line 6”, of course it could be any number different from 6, just used it as an example.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button on web site

 

I wonder if this is one of those annoying pull down menus, that after tabbing to it and hitting space bar or enter, a dialog of sorts opens either above or below that spot on the screen.

I've not dealt with that site, but I have run across some where the information showed up above rather than below.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Norma A. Boge <naboge@...> wrote:



Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I am trying to activate a button on a web site. Jaws reads the button as “unlabeled zero button collapsed.) I have tried the PC, Jaws and Touch cursor and I am unable to activate it. It comes up in the button list under Jaws, but selecting it from that list just closes the list.

This is on the Constant Contact site, which is password protected. But if anyone has negotiated the site with Jaws or has general suggestions on how to click on this button I would really appreciate it. As an aside, I couldn’t click on it with NVDA or Narrator either, if that helps.

 

Best to all,

Norma


moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

And if the Jaws cursory reads it, you can simply go there wit the Jaws cursor, press Control and then click the button. You could also try Control + Enter, it may or may not work, but you won’t know until you try.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

It’s a good question. As a button, you should be able to reach it by pressing the letter “b.” If “b” does get you there, I’d feel confident you’ll click the right control.

 

If that doesn’t work, another way is to move the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor when you have focus on the restore button. You do this by pressing insert and the JAWS key together on the numpad. If all goes well, JAWS will confirm that focus remains on that button. In that case, stay with the JAWS cursor but activate the button by pressing insert-PC (plus) button on the numpad.

 

I’m a bit foggy on this last one, but tabbing or arrowing with the touch cursor might also get you to the restore button. That’s shift-PC cursor. You get out of the touch cursor by pressing the PC cursor twice.  

 

If none of these techniques works, you might post again with an explanation of what’s happening when you try to work with this control.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 


moderated Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

Adrian Spratt
 

It’s a good question. As a button, you should be able to reach it by pressing the letter “b.” If “b” does get you there, I’d feel confident you’ll click the right control.

 

If that doesn’t work, another way is to move the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor when you have focus on the restore button. You do this by pressing insert and the JAWS key together on the numpad. If all goes well, JAWS will confirm that focus remains on that button. In that case, stay with the JAWS cursor but activate the button by pressing insert-PC (plus) button on the numpad.

 

I’m a bit foggy on this last one, but tabbing or arrowing with the touch cursor might also get you to the restore button. That’s shift-PC cursor. You get out of the touch cursor by pressing the PC cursor twice.  

 

If none of these techniques works, you might post again with an explanation of what’s happening when you try to work with this control.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

I,

 

How do I ensure that I’m on the item I wish to click?

 

I have to click the “restore options” button in Backblaze.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what to do when told to control click on windows with jaws?

 

Position the mouse pointer on the item you wish clicked, hold down the CTRL key and press the JAWS Left Mouse Button.

 

On 12/27/2019 7:59 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m using Backblaze with the latest version of Jaws.

 

I emailed support, due to a problem.

 

They told me to control click a button.

 

How, with jaws do I do that?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica