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moderated Re: Success - JAWS won't start after sign-in

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Jason!

 

Good job!  Your below worked!  I copied my JAWS 2019 shortcut from my desktop as you instructed below.  Now, after sign-in, it starts.  It took about 25 seconds to start, but it did!  I wonder if reactivating “fast startup” might improve this relatively slow startup of JAWS.  I may try doing this.  But, I can live with how it works now.

 

BTW, before pasting the JAWS shortcut into this startup folder, I noticed that there was nothing in it.

 

Thanks!

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 1:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Yes, typing Alt+d in File Explorer, followed by shell:startup will place you in the relevant directory. Try pasting the JAWS shortcut in there.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 3:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi Jason!

 

Well, I am not on any sort of a corporate network, but I wonder about your below solution.  Maybe something like it might work for me!  You say that the solution was to copy the JAWS shortcut into “shell:startup (which is where the user’s startup programs reside).”  What does this mean.  I am used to seeing something more like “C: . . . “ or a directory path.  So, does your below indicate something like that?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

I once experienced this on a Windows 7 system. According to Freedom Scientific support, it was probably due to group policy settings (the machine was part of an Active Directory domain).

 

The solution was to copy the desktop shortcut for JAWS to shell:startup (which is where the user’s startup programs reside).

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 27, 2020 at 07:46
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

I’m glad you don’t have a problem on your system, but do realize that every system is a little different and on some systems this is an issue which Freedom Scientific is aware of.


moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, I got the same answer turn off fast start up. That made no difference and in fact made things worse. I turned it back on


On Jan 28, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:



Hi Joe!

 

Well, I have turned off “fast startup” but that has not fixed it.  This was suggested by FS.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi Richard,

I have this problem as well running Jaws 2020 and Windows 10 Pro the in the latest version of the operating system.  I had been using only Jaws at start but when I use Zoom Text  as well Jaws started  after signing in.  This makes me think there is a problem at start up and the additional time required to start Zoom Text or Fusion allows for Jaws to start up properly. 

 

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Jason White
 

Yes, typing Alt+d in File Explorer, followed by shell:startup will place you in the relevant directory. Try pasting the JAWS shortcut in there.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 3:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi Jason!

 

Well, I am not on any sort of a corporate network, but I wonder about your below solution.  Maybe something like it might work for me!  You say that the solution was to copy the JAWS shortcut into “shell:startup (which is where the user’s startup programs reside).”  What does this mean.  I am used to seeing something more like “C: . . . “ or a directory path.  So, does your below indicate something like that?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

I once experienced this on a Windows 7 system. According to Freedom Scientific support, it was probably due to group policy settings (the machine was part of an Active Directory domain).

 

The solution was to copy the desktop shortcut for JAWS to shell:startup (which is where the user’s startup programs reside).

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 27, 2020 at 07:46
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

I’m glad you don’t have a problem on your system, but do realize that every system is a little different and on some systems this is an issue which Freedom Scientific is aware of.


moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Joe!

 

Well, I have turned off “fast startup” but that has not fixed it.  This was suggested by FS.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi Richard,

I have this problem as well running Jaws 2020 and Windows 10 Pro the in the latest version of the operating system.  I had been using only Jaws at start but when I use Zoom Text  as well Jaws started  after signing in.  This makes me think there is a problem at start up and the additional time required to start Zoom Text or Fusion allows for Jaws to start up properly. 

 

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Richard B. McDonald
 

Thanks Dan, I am having to do the hot key thing presently too until I resolve this issue.  I am glad to hear, though, that it is not just me!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi,

  Yes, I had the same problem with JAWS 2019.  Both at log on and after getting to desktop.  In both instances I used the JAWS hot keys to force a start.  All my JAWS settings were correct and the Application file for JAWS was enabled on the start up menu. Freedom Scientific   said they were aware of some users having this issue.  I do not know if this occurs with 2020.  I took out my password at log on and after starting the computer JAWS starts all the time at my desktop.  So I don’t know if issue still exists with 2020 and I realize that most people need a log on password protected system.  I work from my home and so for me not necessary.

Mainly I want you to know that the issue is not just with you or your system.  I would report to Freedom and or Microsoft Disability Desk for any possible answers or trouble shoot.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Sieghard!

 

Yes, I looked there and it says that the application file for JAWS is “on.”  Is there anywhere else that I should look?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 4:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

I use Jaws 2020 and Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit and I have 4 PC’s at my business and a laptop at home and Jaws starts both at the login screen and after logon 100% of the time on all systems.

Have you checked that Jaws is turned on in Windows Settings (Windows Key + I) > Apps > Startup?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi,

  Yes, I had the same problem with JAWS 2019.  Both at log on and after getting to desktop.  In both instances I used the JAWS hot keys to force a start.  All my JAWS settings were correct and the Application file for JAWS was enabled on the start up menu. Freedom Scientific   said they were aware of some users having this issue.  I do not know if this occurs with 2020.  I took out my password at log on and after starting the computer JAWS starts all the time at my desktop.  So I don’t know if issue still exists with 2020 and I realize that most people need a log on password protected system.  I work from my home and so for me not necessary.

Mainly I want you to know that the issue is not just with you or your system.  I would report to Freedom and or Microsoft Disability Desk for any possible answers or trouble shoot.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Jason!

 

Well, I am not on any sort of a corporate network, but I wonder about your below solution.  Maybe something like it might work for me!  You say that the solution was to copy the JAWS shortcut into “shell:startup (which is where the user’s startup programs reside).”  What does this mean.  I am used to seeing something more like “C: . . . “ or a directory path.  So, does your below indicate something like that?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

I once experienced this on a Windows 7 system. According to Freedom Scientific support, it was probably due to group policy settings (the machine was part of an Active Directory domain).

 

The solution was to copy the desktop shortcut for JAWS to shell:startup (which is where the user’s startup programs reside).

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 27, 2020 at 07:46
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

I’m glad you don’t have a problem on your system, but do realize that every system is a little different and on some systems this is an issue which Freedom Scientific is aware of.


moderated Re: Google Chrome Extensions

Mario
 

oops. the Sound Effects extension is preceeded with the word Chrome, and
the Always Clear Download for Chrome is called Always Clear Downloads
for Chrome.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 10:39 AM
Subject: Google Chrome Extensions
I use the Download Sound extension which can either play a sound when
the saving of a file has finished or use the TTS in Windows to announce
when the file has finished being saved. this lets you continue using
your computer while doing other things.

there's one called Sound Effects that adds sounds to events such as when
a link opens up in a tab or if it opens in a new window, and other
helpful sounds. the sounds can only be enabled (checked) or disabled
(unchecked), but there's one sound that needs to be enabled so the
others will play.

the All Clear Downloads for Chrome extension has an option to disable
the download status shelf so the progress of the saving of a download
will not be constantly announced by your screen reader while you use the
computer for something else like reading an article or researching.

uBlock origin and uBlock Origin Extra helps to block undesireable ads.

I don't go crazy with extensions, but others may have other suggestions
that might be intriguing.


-------- Original Message --------
From: David Kingsbury [mailto:davidkingsbury77@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 9:25 AM
Subject: Google Chrome Extensions
Hi all,

I am trying to familiarize myself with using extensions in Chrome.
Frankly, I am surprised at how few useful extensions seem to be out
there. Do any of you have extensions that you use regularly that are
accessible with JAWS? Please let me know.

Thanks,

David


moderated Re: Google Chrome Extensions

 

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:47 AM, Mario wrote:
uBlock Origin Plus a replacement for uBlock Origin Extra
No, uBlock Origin Extra is the correct name of that extension.  I was looking at the icon presented rather than extension manager when I typed up my response and since it shows a plus sign in the center of the shield I gave an incorrect name.  Sorry for the confusion.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated Re: Google Chrome Extensions

Mario
 

Brian, is uBlock Origin Plus a replacement for uBlock Origin Extra, or
are they the same? I'm wondering if I should remove uBO Extra for a more
up to date extension.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:@britechguy]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 9:42 AM
Subject: Google Chrome Extensions
The Chrome Web Store has, literally, thousands of extensions.

I certainly can't speak to the accessibility of the vast majority of
them, but people tend to try and use extensions that do what they need
to have done.  I use uBlock Origin, uBlock Origin Plus, Privacy Badger,
HTTPS Everywhere, Read Aloud (for demo purposes with clients), Google
Translate, and Google Hangouts extensions.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's
beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting
them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated Re: Google Chrome Extensions

Mario
 

I use the Download Sound extension which can either play a sound when
the saving of a file has finished or use the TTS in Windows to announce
when the file has finished being saved. this lets you continue using
your computer while doing other things.

there's one called Sound Effects that adds sounds to events such as when
a link opens up in a tab or if it opens in a new window, and other
helpful sounds. the sounds can only be enabled (checked) or disabled
(unchecked), but there's one sound that needs to be enabled so the
others will play.

the All Clear Downloads for Chrome extension has an option to disable
the download status shelf so the progress of the saving of a download
will not be constantly announced by your screen reader while you use the
computer for something else like reading an article or researching.

uBlock origin and uBlock Origin Extra helps to block undesireable ads.

I don't go crazy with extensions, but others may have other suggestions
that might be intriguing.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Kingsbury [mailto:davidkingsbury77@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 9:25 AM
Subject: Google Chrome Extensions
Hi all,

I am trying to familiarize myself with using extensions in Chrome.
Frankly, I am surprised at how few useful extensions seem to be out
there. Do any of you have extensions that you use regularly that are
accessible with JAWS? Please let me know.

Thanks,

David


moderated Re: Google Chrome Extensions

 

The Chrome Web Store has, literally, thousands of extensions.

I certainly can't speak to the accessibility of the vast majority of them, but people tend to try and use extensions that do what they need to have done.  I use uBlock Origin, uBlock Origin Plus, Privacy Badger, HTTPS Everywhere, Read Aloud (for demo purposes with clients), Google Translate, and Google Hangouts extensions.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated Google Chrome Extensions

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

I am trying to familiarize myself with using extensions in Chrome. Frankly, I am surprised at how few useful extensions seem to be out there. Do any of you have extensions that you use regularly that are accessible with JAWS? Please let me know.

 

Thanks,

David


moderated Re: keystroke to get to Office Quick Access Toolbar?

David Kingsbury
 

Hi,
Another quick way to get to the Sort submenu is to hit your applications key, and then the letter O. You can then up/down arrow to A to Z, Z to A, etc, and hit enter on the way you want to sort. 

David


moderated From Brian Hartgen's Blog: Accessing Favorites in Microsoft Edge

David Goldfield
 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

Accessing Favourites in Microsoft Edge.

We've recently discovered what we consider to be quite a flaw in the use of Microsoft Edge.

When storing a site as a Favourite, you can no longer access it from the Favourites folder within File Explorer. A lot of people like to do this for several reasons. It is much easier to navigate the list, the Favourites can be searched, renamed, deleted, and you can just pull one of them out and put it on the Desktop if you use it very frequently. If you know how to use File Explorer, you can manage your Favourites.

If you have our Leasey or J-Say products, of course you have good solutions already in the form of LeaseyCuts and J-Say Shortcuts. They are working with Edge.

However, if you have purchased our new training course on the use of Microsoft Edge, you will also get some JAWS scripts which bring back this very useful utility of creating Favourites to web pages. Not only will they allow you to create the Favourites, but you can choose which folder they are saved into. We're thinking ahead here because if Microsoft decided to remove the default Favourites folder at any time, you can still use this feature. We've also given you a keystroke to quickly access your Favourites folder.

We can confidently advertise this feature because we have it working!

Enjoy it when it comes along!


moderated Re: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

David Goldfield
 

I do notice a delay from the time I press enter to open a message until the time when JAWS begins reading the message. I first thought that this was an Outlook issue but I don't notice this delay as much when performing the same task using NVDA. With the preview pane disabled navigating through messages in the message list is responsive but opening a message is not.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/28/2020 8:40 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:

I turned off the reading pane and a couple other things. Seems to help with arrowing through a message list. However, the lag for Jaws responding and my ability to type in the body of a reply message is even worse, probably around 7-8 seconds this time. I do appreciate the reminder about the pane, I wish the settings would just stay but evidently MS doesn’t think that is a priority. Bummer.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 6:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

 

Have you tried turning off the preview pane in Outlook?

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of "Norma A. Boge" <naboge@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 27, 2020 at 16:52
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

 

Hi group,

 

As I await a response from Vispero support, I’m wondering if anyone is experiencing the following:

 

I have noticed that the lag while using Outlook 365 with Jaws 2020 is even worse than with Jaws 2019. Arrowing through a message list, Jaws simply stops speaking. I can read the title of the window but that’s it. Then after 3-4 seconds I am able to proceed normally through the list. And it takes about 5 seconds before I can type a reply to a message.

A few months ago I asked about this lag while in a Outlook webinar with the Microsoft accessibility group. They acknowledged the problem but that was about all they said. I can hardly wait to see what Vispero’s take is.

 

Helpful feedback welcome.

Norma


moderated Re: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

Norma A. Boge
 

I turned off the reading pane and a couple other things. Seems to help with arrowing through a message list. However, the lag for Jaws responding and my ability to type in the body of a reply message is even worse, probably around 7-8 seconds this time. I do appreciate the reminder about the pane, I wish the settings would just stay but evidently MS doesn’t think that is a priority. Bummer.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 6:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

 

Have you tried turning off the preview pane in Outlook?

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of "Norma A. Boge" <naboge@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 27, 2020 at 16:52
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2020 lag with Outlook 365

 

Hi group,

 

As I await a response from Vispero support, I’m wondering if anyone is experiencing the following:

 

I have noticed that the lag while using Outlook 365 with Jaws 2020 is even worse than with Jaws 2019. Arrowing through a message list, Jaws simply stops speaking. I can read the title of the window but that’s it. Then after 3-4 seconds I am able to proceed normally through the list. And it takes about 5 seconds before I can type a reply to a message.

A few months ago I asked about this lag while in a Outlook webinar with the Microsoft accessibility group. They acknowledged the problem but that was about all they said. I can hardly wait to see what Vispero’s take is.

 

Helpful feedback welcome.

Norma


moderated Re: Seeking feedback on 40 and 80 cell displays

Jason White
 

I've used an 80-cell display in a work environment, and I can definitely recommend it. More cells are better (within a reasonable limit, of course).

On 1/27/20, 23:03, "Rayn Darren" <main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of rayndarren@...> wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. I'm leaning towards 80 cells as well. a whole
line really is appealing.

On 1/27/2020 5:45 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> The programmers I know use an 80 cell display so they don’t have to worry about the line length.
> I know people who are happy with both the Humanware 80 and the Focus 80.
> The Focus 5th generation 80 I think has some extra keys that can be programmed but I don’t know which ones or exactly how to do that
> The Focus 80 also has the 8 braille input keys if that matters.
> They are only about $200 difference in price.
> Both are pushing close to $8,000.
>
> If you have any local vendors that carry one or the other, you ought to request a demonstration.
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:30 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Seeking feedback on 40 and 80 cell displays
>
>
> Greetings fellow Jaws users!
>
> I'm a programmer and I'm in need of a new braille display. I currently have a Polaris and am unable to pair it to my computer due to technical issues with the unit. Therefore I'm in need of a new display, only a display this time as I don't make use of the other functions that come with a note-taking unit. To that end, I come to you fine people in hopes that someone will have some insight on displays.
>
> I'm looking for feedback on 40 or 80 cell displays. I think perhaps the 80 cells will be too long for me, but since I need to read everything and every dot counts, 80 just might be what I need to be effective. I've pretty much narrowed it to the BI/Brailliant or Focus models, but if anyone uses something else I'd gladly consider it as well.
>
> Thank you all in advance,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
>


moderated Re: keystroke to get to Office Quick Access Toolbar?

Van Lant, Robin
 

Thank you! The alt, then up arrow did the trick. Alt 3 also went directly to the button I need, but I'll keep in mind that it might be finicky. Love this list.

Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: keystroke to get to Office Quick Access Toolbar?

In theory, pressing alt+1 should take you to the first item in the QAT, alt+2 to the second, etc. My experience is that that only works sometimes.

At 05:10 PM 1/27/2020, you wrote:
A JAWS webinar I listened to a while back talked about adding icons to
the Quick Access Toolbar in Excel. I did this for the sort button,
which I regularly use, Now I wonder if there is a quick way to get to
that QAT toolbar other than tabbing through all the ribbons. I figure
there must be if it was worth pointing out on a JAWS webinar, but I did
not write any notes on how to do it.

Robin
Using Windows 10, Office 2016 and JAWS 2019

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moderated Re: Seeking feedback on 40 and 80 cell displays

Rayn Darren
 

Thanks for the feedback. I'm leaning towards 80 cells as well. a whole line really is appealing.

On 1/27/2020 5:45 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
The programmers I know use an 80 cell display so they don’t have to worry about the line length.
I know people who are happy with both the Humanware 80 and the Focus 80.
The Focus 5th generation 80 I think has some extra keys that can be programmed but I don’t know which ones or exactly how to do that
The Focus 80 also has the 8 braille input keys if that matters.
They are only about $200 difference in price.
Both are pushing close to $8,000.

If you have any local vendors that carry one or the other, you ought to request a demonstration.

HTH,
Richard

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Seeking feedback on 40 and 80 cell displays


Greetings fellow Jaws users!

I'm a programmer and I'm in need of a new braille display. I currently have a Polaris and am unable to pair it to my computer due to technical issues with the unit. Therefore I'm in need of a new display, only a display this time as I don't make use of the other functions that come with a note-taking unit. To that end, I come to you fine people in hopes that someone will have some insight on displays.

I'm looking for feedback on 40 or 80 cell displays. I think perhaps the 80 cells will be too long for me, but since I need to read everything and every dot counts, 80 just might be what I need to be effective. I've pretty much narrowed it to the BI/Brailliant or Focus models, but if anyone uses something else I'd gladly consider it as well.

Thank you all in advance,

Sarah