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moderated Re: [External] Re: From My Blog: My Feature Wish List for JAWS 2020

Cook, Steve
 

The way that I set up my JAWS hot key for each version is by using Alt control and the last number of the version.  IE  Alt control 9 for JAWS 2019

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: From My Blog: My Feature Wish List for JAWS 2020

 

David,

I also appreciated your post.  I agree that there were features in Window Eyes that I thought would get migrated into JAWS.  The biggest thing I still miss from WE is the way that mouse keys worked.  I just can’t seem to get the hang of the JAWS cursor to accomplish what I did so easily with numpad navigation of the mouse.    Thanks for your thoughtful post.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From My Blog: My Feature Wish List for JAWS 2020

 

Thanks for your comments, Adrian.

Regarding progress tones I think that it should be a four-way toggle with options for speech, sounds, speech and sounds along with no feedback. JAWS could default to having progress reports being provided as speech only, keeping it to the long-standing default setting.

As for the potential for hotkey conflicts I do see what you mean. At one point I had versions for JAWS 16, 17, 18, 2018 and 2019 on my desktop. I had different hotkeys assigned to each of them, with ctrl+alt+J for whatever the current version was at that time. When a new version number was released, such as JAWS 2020, I did need to do a bit of juggling to keep things straight and users running multiple versions would need to keep track of which keys were being used for specific versions and might have to do a bit of shuffling, when required.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/2/2020 7:08 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

David,

 

As always, a thoughtful post, and this one so comprehensive. Two thoughts:

 

First, like many JAWS users, I tend to have more than one version on my system. Each has its own hotkey. I wonder if conflicts could arise if users created the hotkey during the startup wizard.

 

Second, although JAWS doesn’t issue tones during software downloads, you can get spoken percentage messages by pressing JAWS key+tab. Personally, I’d prefer not to have tones because I like to work on other things while software is downloading. That said, I note that you recommend that the user have the option of silencing the tones. I also understand that tones could be desirable in addition to spoken progress reports. So I mention the JAWS key-tab keystroke in case anyone is unfamiliar with it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From My Blog: My Feature Wish List for JAWS 2020

 

Regarding this  post I was horrified to find an error that I'm amazed was missed during proofreading. I have since fixed it on my blog and added one more feature request where a press of the shift key would pause and then resume the reading of text after pressing the "say all" command. You can find it here.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/2/2020 5:55 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Many thanks. I meant the post to be constructive and positive as I am not only a JAWS user but a bit of a JAWS enthusiast as well. Both JAWS as well as Brian Hartgen's Leasey program have increased my productivity and I think that feedback and suggestions of this type need to be conveyed positively. As for getting the attention of Vispero I have posted this to the JAWS Users group on Facebook and I have definitely seen posts from a Vispero employee on that group and so I'm sure it's been seen by that individual. I also posted this to several groups related to assistive technology on LinkedIn, as well as on my LinkedIn feed and I believe I have some LinkedIn connections who work at Vispero.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/2/2020 5:42 PM, JM Casey wrote:

This was very thoughtfully put together and I was surprised at the constructive quality of the suggestions. You should definitely see if you can show this to someone at ..Visparo, are they calling themselves now?

 

I’ll also check out your blog. Cheers.

 

 



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moderated Re: From My Blog: My Feature Wish List for JAWS 2020

Van Lant, Robin
 

David,

I also appreciated your post.  I agree that there were features in Window Eyes that I thought would get migrated into JAWS.  The biggest thing I still miss from WE is the way that mouse keys worked.  I just can’t seem to get the hang of the JAWS cursor to accomplish what I did so easily with numpad navigation of the mouse.    Thanks for your thoughtful post.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From My Blog: My Feature Wish List for JAWS 2020

 

Thanks for your comments, Adrian.

Regarding progress tones I think that it should be a four-way toggle with options for speech, sounds, speech and sounds along with no feedback. JAWS could default to having progress reports being provided as speech only, keeping it to the long-standing default setting.

As for the potential for hotkey conflicts I do see what you mean. At one point I had versions for JAWS 16, 17, 18, 2018 and 2019 on my desktop. I had different hotkeys assigned to each of them, with ctrl+alt+J for whatever the current version was at that time. When a new version number was released, such as JAWS 2020, I did need to do a bit of juggling to keep things straight and users running multiple versions would need to keep track of which keys were being used for specific versions and might have to do a bit of shuffling, when required.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/2/2020 7:08 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

David,

 

As always, a thoughtful post, and this one so comprehensive. Two thoughts:

 

First, like many JAWS users, I tend to have more than one version on my system. Each has its own hotkey. I wonder if conflicts could arise if users created the hotkey during the startup wizard.

 

Second, although JAWS doesn’t issue tones during software downloads, you can get spoken percentage messages by pressing JAWS key+tab. Personally, I’d prefer not to have tones because I like to work on other things while software is downloading. That said, I note that you recommend that the user have the option of silencing the tones. I also understand that tones could be desirable in addition to spoken progress reports. So I mention the JAWS key-tab keystroke in case anyone is unfamiliar with it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From My Blog: My Feature Wish List for JAWS 2020

 

Regarding this  post I was horrified to find an error that I'm amazed was missed during proofreading. I have since fixed it on my blog and added one more feature request where a press of the shift key would pause and then resume the reading of text after pressing the "say all" command. You can find it here.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/2/2020 5:55 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Many thanks. I meant the post to be constructive and positive as I am not only a JAWS user but a bit of a JAWS enthusiast as well. Both JAWS as well as Brian Hartgen's Leasey program have increased my productivity and I think that feedback and suggestions of this type need to be conveyed positively. As for getting the attention of Vispero I have posted this to the JAWS Users group on Facebook and I have definitely seen posts from a Vispero employee on that group and so I'm sure it's been seen by that individual. I also posted this to several groups related to assistive technology on LinkedIn, as well as on my LinkedIn feed and I believe I have some LinkedIn connections who work at Vispero.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/2/2020 5:42 PM, JM Casey wrote:

This was very thoughtfully put together and I was surprised at the constructive quality of the suggestions. You should definitely see if you can show this to someone at ..Visparo, are they calling themselves now?

 

I’ll also check out your blog. Cheers.

 

 



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moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Richard B. McDonald
 

I am running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

That should have absolutely no influence as to whether Jaws starts properly as it should if the correct settings are selected in Jaws Options > Basics > Automatically Start Jaws...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:16 PM
To: richardbmcdonald@...
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Hello,
I'm not sure if Windows 10 Home or Pro makes a difference in the installation and start-up sequence. But it would help if Richard, you could tell us if you are running Windows 10 Home Edition or Pro.

Original message:

Hi Mike!
About your #2 below, I looked at that and indeed JAWS 2019 is checked.
It is the only screen reader I have installed. About your #1 below,
when I press control+shift+escape, I do get to task manager. However,
there seems not to be any “startup” tab. Pressing control+tab does
nothing since there is only the one main window without any other tabs.
I would appreciate any other suggestions!
Thanks,
Richard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 3:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10
2 things come to mind, read and check both to see if they're both on / checked:
#1:
Try pressing, control, shift + escape, to open the task manager.
Control + tab to the Startup tab and tab 1 time into a list of items.
Down arrow to Application file for Jaws and tab 3 times to see its
status. If it says, Enable, this means that Jaws is not turned on to
start with the computer. So, press the spacebar so Jaws reports,
Disable, to turn it on. No, I'm not talking backwards, this is the way
it works. Now Alt + F4 to close and reboot the computer to see if it works.
#2:
1. Open the control panel, navigate to the Ease of Access Center link
and press enter.
2. Tab to, Use the computer without a display Link, and press enter.
3. Now tab several times to find all of your installed screenreaders
and make sure the version of Jaws you want to run at startup is checked.

Take care. Mike. Sennt from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard B. McDonald <mailto:richardbmcdonald@...>
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 1:17 PM
Subject: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10
Hi!
I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019. Recently, I upgraded
from Windows 7 to 10. After doing so, JAWS does not launch
automatically upon startup. For now, the PC has only one user account
with no password. As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes
straight to the desktop. I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon
screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user.
Still, JAWS does not launch.
What is the solution to this?
Thanks,
Richard


moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

Richard, have you called Jaws technical support? I think at this point this might be a good way to troubleshoot this further.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

Hi Mike!

 

About your #2 below, I looked at that and indeed JAWS 2019 is checked.  It is the only screen reader I have installed.  About your #1 below, when I press control+shift+escape, I do get to task manager.  However, there seems not to be any “startup” tab.  Pressing control+tab does nothing since there is only the one main window without any other tabs.

 

I would appreciate any other suggestions!

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 3:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

2 things come to mind, read and check both to see if they're both on / checked:

#1:

Try pressing, control, shift + escape, to open the task manager.

Control + tab to the Startup tab and tab 1 time into a list of items.

Down arrow to Application file for Jaws and tab 3 times to see its status.  If it says, Enable, this means that Jaws is not turned on to start with the computer.  So, press the spacebar so Jaws reports, Disable, to turn it on.  No, I'm not talking backwards, this is the way it works.  Now Alt + F4 to close and reboot the computer to see if it works.

 

#2:

1. Open the control panel, navigate to the Ease of Access Center link and press enter.

 

2. Tab to, Use the computer without a display Link, and press enter.


3. Now tab several times to find all of your installed screenreaders and make sure the version of Jaws you want to run at startup is checked.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

Hi!

 

I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019.  Recently, I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10.  After doing so, JAWS does not launch automatically upon startup.  For now, the PC has only one user account with no password.  As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes straight to the desktop.  I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user.  Still, JAWS does not launch.

 

What is the solution to this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

That should have absolutely no influence as to whether Jaws starts properly as it should if the correct settings are selected in Jaws Options > Basics > Automatically Start Jaws...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:16 PM
To: richardbmcdonald@...
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Hello,
I'm not sure if Windows 10 Home or Pro makes a difference in the installation and start-up sequence. But it would help if Richard, you could tell us if you are running Windows 10 Home Edition or Pro.

Original message:

Hi Mike!
About your #2 below, I looked at that and indeed JAWS 2019 is checked.
It is the only screen reader I have installed. About your #1 below,
when I press control+shift+escape, I do get to task manager. However,
there seems not to be any “startup” tab. Pressing control+tab does
nothing since there is only the one main window without any other tabs.
I would appreciate any other suggestions!
Thanks,
Richard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 3:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10
2 things come to mind, read and check both to see if they're both on / checked:
#1:
Try pressing, control, shift + escape, to open the task manager.
Control + tab to the Startup tab and tab 1 time into a list of items.
Down arrow to Application file for Jaws and tab 3 times to see its
status. If it says, Enable, this means that Jaws is not turned on to
start with the computer. So, press the spacebar so Jaws reports,
Disable, to turn it on. No, I'm not talking backwards, this is the way
it works. Now Alt + F4 to close and reboot the computer to see if it works.
#2:
1. Open the control panel, navigate to the Ease of Access Center link
and press enter.
2. Tab to, Use the computer without a display Link, and press enter.
3. Now tab several times to find all of your installed screenreaders
and make sure the version of Jaws you want to run at startup is checked.

Take care. Mike. Sennt from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard B. McDonald <mailto:richardbmcdonald@...>
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 1:17 PM
Subject: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10
Hi!
I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019. Recently, I upgraded
from Windows 7 to 10. After doing so, JAWS does not launch
automatically upon startup. For now, the PC has only one user account
with no password. As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes
straight to the desktop. I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon
screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user.
Still, JAWS does not launch.
What is the solution to this?
Thanks,
Richard


moderated Re: Excel 2019 and worksheets

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

I am running the latest jaws, and excel 365 and it works perfect for me

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: January 6, 2020 6:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel 2019 and worksheets

Hi all,
I'm using the latest version of Jaws 2020. When I use control + page up or
page down to switch between sheets, it says "sheet tab" first and then the
tab name. How do I get it to stop saying "sheet tab"? Jaws does not do this
when using the classic excel scripts which are for older versions of excel.

Thanks in advance.

Jason

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moderated Excel 2019 and worksheets

Boston, Jason W
 

Hi all,
I'm using the latest version of Jaws 2020. When I use control + page up or page down to switch between sheets, it says "sheet tab" first and then the tab name. How do I get it to stop saying "sheet tab"? Jaws does not do this when using the classic excel scripts which are for older versions of excel.

Thanks in advance.

Jason

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moderated Re: Looking For an Active JAWS Scripting List

aaron lane <ajbd777@...>
 

jawscripts@ freelists.org

On 1/4/20, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:
Hello. I am learning how to write scripts from a training course
conducted by Brian Hartgen, which he released several years ago. I am
finding the material to be fairly straightforward but I do have many
questions as I progress through the material. I don't need much in the
way of handholding but I'd like to find an appropriate group where I can
ask them. I found a JAWS Scripting group on the FS support page which is
from Yahoo Groups. I subscribed to it but was wondering if that's the
most active group. I found a Jawsscripting group on Groups.io but it
only contained a few members. What's the best group to join with
scripting questions?


--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org




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moderated jaws start up

Marvin Hunkin
 

Hi, you need to go to press windows r type msconfig. Then arrow four times to start up, then go to the task manager link, and then you will be in a list of start up options to disable and enable. Make sure jaws is enabled. Then press alt f 4, then tab to the okay button, then restart your machine. And also in the jaws starteizard insert z and then at the second screen, make sure the logon check boxes are checked for start at the logon screen and also start for all users.

Hope that helps.

Thanks.,


moderated FW: Some Helpful Commands for Using 1Password

jeff_blair@...
 

-----Original Message-----
From: jeff_blair@... <jeff_blair@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 4:30 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@groups.io' <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: FW: Some Helpful Commands for Using 1Password



-----Original Message-----
From: jeff_blair@... <jeff_blair@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 4:19 PM
To: 'jfw@...' <jfw@...>
Subject: Some Helpful Commands for Using 1Password

Hello - JAWS User Group,

I have discovered some commands that have been helpful when I navigate
through the 1Password password manager application. I'm using the latest
version of 1Password under Windows 10 and JAWS 2019. These commands do not
include setting up 1Password and creating accounts in a shared vault (my
sighted wife did that), but these command do help me enter, navigate, and
link to accounts within 1Password after it has been set up:

1. To get to my 1Password application on my Windows 10 computer, I hit the
Windows key (immediately to the right of the Control key) until I hear the
word "search." I then key in the name "1Password" and hit enter.
2. When 1Password opens, JAWS is silent for about 10 seconds and then it
instructs me to enter my master password. I then enter my master password
and hit enter.
3. After accepting my master password, the cursor goes to the "Search
Shared" field in the shared account.
4. If I wish to see all the accounts in the shared vault, I hit shift tab to
go up to the "tree."
5. Then do control mouse click KEY (this key is immediately above the number
8 key on the numeric key pad which is on the right side of my keyboard).
6. Now I can arrow down thru the list of accounts in the shared vault and
JAWS reads to me the name of each account.
7. Furthermore, if I hit the tab key when my cursor is on one of the
accounts, it allows me to read the details of that account (which my sighted
assistant tells me is on the right side of the screen).
8. Now that I'm on the right side of the screen, I can arrow down thru this
information until I get to the link to the website, and if I hit enter on
the website, it goes to the website for that account.

I hope these keystroke command might be helpful.


moderated FW: Outlook 2016 Continues to Crash Using JAWS

jeff_blair@...
 

 

 

From: jeff_blair@... <jeff_blair@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 4:30 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@groups.io' <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: FW: Outlook 2016 Continues to Crash Using JAWS

 

 

 

From: jeff_blair@... <jeff_blair@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 4:29 PM
To: 'jfw@...' <jfw@...>
Subject: Outlook 2016 Continues to Crash Using JAWS

 

Has anyone had experience with Outlook 2016 crashing, and then switched to Outlook 365 and found it to be more stable? 

 

Kind regards,

 

    Jeff

 


moderated Re: From My Blog: My Feature Wish List for JAWS 2020

Marvin Hunkin
 

hi, would like to see support for windows sandbox, does not work with jaws, and also support for virtual machines, like hyper v, microsoft azure, vmware player, workstation, virtual box.as doing a network course from http://www.upskilled.edu.au certificate iv networking ica 40418and maybe david could send this info to visperio and microsoft.


moderated Java programming

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hello fellow listerrs,       

 

I am currently using Notepad ++ and Eclipse IDE as my programming platform; however, I am wondering if there are any other accessible IDE being used by my fellow JAWS users. Any input will be greatly appreciated. I am working with the disability services at the university I am currently attending.

 

Thx,


moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Mike B
 

Hi Richard,
 
Okay, try this:
1. Without any other programs running / open and from the desktop press, control, shift + escape, to open the task manager
2. Shift + tab 1 time to put you on the Processes tab.
3. Now you can either right arrow to get to the various tabs or you can, control + tab, to navigate the tabs in this dialogue
4. Navigate to the, Startup tab, and tab 1 time to get into the list of items.

Down arrow to Application file for Jaws and tab 3 times to see its status.  If it says, Enable, this means that Jaws is not turned on to start with the computer.  So, press the spacebar so Jaws reports, Disable, to turn it on.  No, I'm not talking backwards, this is the way it works.  Now Alt + F4 to close and reboot the computer to see if it works.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Hi Mike!

 

About your #2 below, I looked at that and indeed JAWS 2019 is checked.  It is the only screen reader I have installed.  About your #1 below, when I press control+shift+escape, I do get to task manager.  However, there seems not to be any “startup” tab.  Pressing control+tab does nothing since there is only the one main window without any other tabs.

 

I would appreciate any other suggestions!

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 3:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

2 things come to mind, read and check both to see if they're both on / checked:

#1:

Try pressing, control, shift + escape, to open the task manager.

Control + tab to the Startup tab and tab 1 time into a list of items.

Down arrow to Application file for Jaws and tab 3 times to see its status.  If it says, Enable, this means that Jaws is not turned on to start with the computer.  So, press the spacebar so Jaws reports, Disable, to turn it on.  No, I'm not talking backwards, this is the way it works.  Now Alt + F4 to close and reboot the computer to see if it works.

 

#2:

1. Open the control panel, navigate to the Ease of Access Center link and press enter.

 

2. Tab to, Use the computer without a display Link, and press enter.


3. Now tab several times to find all of your installed screenreaders and make sure the version of Jaws you want to run at startup is checked.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

Hi!

 

I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019.  Recently, I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10.  After doing so, JAWS does not launch automatically upon startup.  For now, the PC has only one user account with no password.  As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes straight to the desktop.  I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user.  Still, JAWS does not launch.

 

What is the solution to this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

Hello,
I'm not sure if Windows 10 Home or Pro makes a difference in the installation and start-up sequence. But it would help if Richard, you could tell us if you are running Windows 10 Home Edition or Pro.

Original message:

Hi Mike!
About your #2 below, I looked at that and indeed JAWS 2019 is checked. It is the only screen reader I have installed. About your #1 below, when I press control+shift+escape, I do get to task manager. However, there seems not to be any “startup” tab. Pressing control+tab does nothing since there is only the one main window without any other tabs.
I would appreciate any other suggestions!
Thanks,
Richard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 3:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10
2 things come to mind, read and check both to see if they're both on / checked:
#1:
Try pressing, control, shift + escape, to open the task manager.
Control + tab to the Startup tab and tab 1 time into a list of items.
Down arrow to Application file for Jaws and tab 3 times to see its status. If it says, Enable, this means that Jaws is not turned on to start with the computer. So, press the spacebar so Jaws reports, Disable, to turn it on. No, I'm not talking backwards, this is the way it works. Now Alt + F4 to close and reboot the computer to see if it works.
#2:
1. Open the control panel, navigate to the Ease of Access Center link and press enter.
2. Tab to, Use the computer without a display Link, and press enter.
3. Now tab several times to find all of your installed screenreaders and make sure the version of Jaws you want to run at startup is checked.

Take care. Mike. Sennt from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard B. McDonald <mailto:richardbmcdonald@...>
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 1:17 PM
Subject: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10
Hi!
I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019. Recently, I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10. After doing so, JAWS does not launch automatically upon startup. For now, the PC has only one user account with no password. As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes straight to the desktop. I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user. Still, JAWS does not launch.
What is the solution to this?
Thanks,
Richard


moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Mike!

 

About your #2 below, I looked at that and indeed JAWS 2019 is checked.  It is the only screen reader I have installed.  About your #1 below, when I press control+shift+escape, I do get to task manager.  However, there seems not to be any “startup” tab.  Pressing control+tab does nothing since there is only the one main window without any other tabs.

 

I would appreciate any other suggestions!

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 3:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

2 things come to mind, read and check both to see if they're both on / checked:

#1:

Try pressing, control, shift + escape, to open the task manager.

Control + tab to the Startup tab and tab 1 time into a list of items.

Down arrow to Application file for Jaws and tab 3 times to see its status.  If it says, Enable, this means that Jaws is not turned on to start with the computer.  So, press the spacebar so Jaws reports, Disable, to turn it on.  No, I'm not talking backwards, this is the way it works.  Now Alt + F4 to close and reboot the computer to see if it works.

 

#2:

1. Open the control panel, navigate to the Ease of Access Center link and press enter.

 

2. Tab to, Use the computer without a display Link, and press enter.


3. Now tab several times to find all of your installed screenreaders and make sure the version of Jaws you want to run at startup is checked.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

 

Hi!

 

I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019.  Recently, I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10.  After doing so, JAWS does not launch automatically upon startup.  For now, the PC has only one user account with no password.  As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes straight to the desktop.  I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user.  Still, JAWS does not launch.

 

What is the solution to this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Mike B
 

2 things come to mind, read and check both to see if they're both on / checked:
#1:
Try pressing, control, shift + escape, to open the task manager.
Control + tab to the Startup tab and tab 1 time into a list of items.
Down arrow to Application file for Jaws and tab 3 times to see its status.  If it says, Enable, this means that Jaws is not turned on to start with the computer.  So, press the spacebar so Jaws reports, Disable, to turn it on.  No, I'm not talking backwards, this is the way it works.  Now Alt + F4 to close and reboot the computer to see if it works.
 
#2:
1. Open the control panel, navigate to the Ease of Access Center link and press enter.
 
2. Tab to, Use the computer without a display Link, and press enter.

3. Now tab several times to find all of your installed screenreaders and make sure the version of Jaws you want to run at startup is checked.
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 1:17 PM
Subject: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Hi!

 

I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019.  Recently, I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10.  After doing so, JAWS does not launch automatically upon startup.  For now, the PC has only one user account with no password.  As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes straight to the desktop.  I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user.  Still, JAWS does not launch.

 

What is the solution to this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Richard Turner
 

Have you tried not checking the start at logon, but check start after logon and set always for this user?




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 5, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:



Hi!

 

I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019.  Recently, I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10.  After doing so, JAWS does not launch automatically upon startup.  For now, the PC has only one user account with no password.  As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes straight to the desktop.  I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user.  Still, JAWS does not launch.

 

What is the solution to this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10

Kendra Schaber <kschaber@...>
 

Have you gone into settings and set up these features? If so, have you goten the Windowss as updated as possible? There might be some incompadibility between the latest JAWS 2019 and the latest Windows, or the vertion right before. I had to update my Windows when I had myn last vertion of JAWS 2019 because there were some issues that rendered it inaccessible with the Windows update. I had to update the Windows, and the JAWS before the problem was fixed. I had to use sighted assistance to update the Windows because of its inaccessible incompadiblity problem. I hope this helps! 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 13:17
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2019 Does not Launch at Startup in Windows 10
 

Hi!

 

I am running the latest version of JAWS 2019.  Recently, I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10.  After doing so, JAWS does not launch automatically upon startup.  For now, the PC has only one user account with no password.  As such, when started the PC just logs-in and goes straight to the desktop.  I have set JAWS 1) to launch at the logon screen (though there is none yet) and 2) always to start for the user.  Still, JAWS does not launch.

 

What is the solution to this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Unable to move around cells in excel with jaws 2020

Kendra Schaber <kschaber@...>
 

Hi! 
No problem! I hope they actually help your friend out! 


As the result of attending school, I discovered that writing is one of my gifts. On the other hand, I have eighth grade spelling. Because of my eighth grade spelling, I’m currently working on improving my spelling where it is possible. Unfortunently, math is my biggest weakness. Because of my weakness of math, I’m going for an English major with an Environmental Science minor instead of an earth sciences major.
Thank you for taking the time to read this email!
Blessed be!
Kendra Schaber
Honor Roll Student, Fall Term 2019
Vice-President of the Oregon Association of Blind Students(ORABS)
Oregon Association of Blind Students(ORABS)
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon(NFB-O)
(503) 599-9991
Redwing731@...
Kschaber@...
NFB One Minute Message:
The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back.
NFB Pledge:
I pledge to participate actively in the effort of the National Federation of the Blind to achieve equality, oppertunity, and security for the blind; to support the policies and programs of the Federation; and to abide by its constitution.
Go Detroit, Red Wings!
Go Pittsburgh, Penguins!
Go Portland Winter Hawks!
Go Baltimore, Oriels!
Go Baltimore, Ravens!
Go Oregon State Beavers, baseball and football teams!
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author Unknown.


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of paul lemm <paul.lemm@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 13:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to move around cells in excel with jaws 2020
 
Hi everyone,

Thanks everyone for all the advise and suggestions, I've passed them all
onto my friend who also says a big thanks for all the help.

Kind regards

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 05 January 2020 19:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to move around cells in excel with jaws 2020

I cannot verify this, I have spreadsheets where I protected certain cells
and ranges of cells and Jaws reads all cells just fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to move around cells in excel with jaws 2020

If JAWS will move to some cells but skip others, the others might be
protected by the spreadsheet creator. NVDA read protected cells, but when I
last encountered them JAWS skipped them altogether.

At 11:51 AM 1/5/2020, you wrote:
>The problem is almost certainly the one others have said. You need to
>download the desktop version, not the web version.
>