On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:10 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I’d just like you to know that many Americans have a much more sophisticated understanding of the questions you raise than you’ve read in this thread.

Then, Mr.Spratt, take the time to elaborate that "more sophisticated understanding."

You really like to throw shade, but nothing that's been said here is not factual.  And people who cry "Discrimination!!" when there is not are not doing anyone any favors.  Nor are those who are demanding things that cannot be provided for a variety of reasons, or they likely would be.  The PR itself would be worth it if it were simple to do.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

Vaughan and the others writing from outside the U.S.,

I’m sorry this thread became so political. I’d just like you to know that many Americans have a much more sophisticated understanding of the questions you raise than you’ve read in this thread. If you haven’t already, you might alert Vispero to your concerns. They need to know you’ve noticed and that it troubles you.

All the best.

I live in Canada too and assuming this would be the case.

I used to deal with Richard from Frontier computing back in the day. It was great – prompt responses, great customer service, very honest and up front.

These days it’s a dealer in Quebec that, not only have I never heard of, last time I bought an SMA, attempted to over charge me before I called them out, took 6 days to call back, and, though they took my money immediately, took a week and a half to actually send me confirmation that yes, my SMA had, in fact, been approved and renewed.

It’s really a shame as customer service from first party (Vispero) Is absolutely great. Of course, I may be in the minority here. Your mileage may vary and things may have improved since here in Canada. I really hope this is the case.

So since I live in Canada I assume that I can’t take advantage of this either right?

I am by no means a defender of Freedom Scientific, but there are business and licensing issues when dealing in a foreign country that make it very difficult for businesses to operate the same way as in the United States.

So, start lobbying with your government to get things changed.

A lot of companies have to deal with vendors in other countries rather than selling directly to individuals.

I don’t pretend to understand the ins and outs of international sales, so I should shut up now.

HI Pat and list.

Generally, Freedom Scientific or its latest incarnation treats international customers poorly.

I am not affected by this extension, as I have Professional, but it seems that Freedom Scientific service provision in my part of the World, (New Zealand) has suffered by recent events.

It would be nice if Vispero actually took its international customers seriously rather than putting all of the responsibility on small dealerships who are struggling.

Sigh!

Vaughan.

Why that’s just great!!!

Why not make the rest of us unequal to those in the u.s. by not allowing anyone in Ireland for example, take advantage of the same thing.

This, to me, is discrimination.

Thanks for nothing!!!

pat

On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:10 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I’d just like you to know that many Americans have a much more sophisticated understanding of the questions you raise than you’ve read in this thread.

Then, Mr.Spratt, take the time to elaborate that "more sophisticated understanding."

You really like to throw shade, but nothing that's been said here is not factual.  And people who cry "Discrimination!!" when there is not are not doing anyone any favors.  Nor are those who are demanding things that cannot be provided for a variety of reasons, or they likely would be.  The PR itself would be worth it if it were simple to do.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

I never really anticipated Malwarebytes as a  replacement  for anti-virus software either.

To be honest it has been years and years since I have had  any such problems which has probably made me complacent. 

I installed Malwarebytes without any real expectation of having to use it,  rather because I bought it years ago and thought it was silly not to use it as a form of insurance.

On my Desktop it has never been used.

Really I was relying on Windows Defender for anti virus which was why I was surprised that Malwarebytes flagged up a Trojan that Windows Defender was oblivious of. For reason stated earlier I am convinced this was not a false positive.

I am happy to be corrected  but my understanding is that trojans are viruses rather than simple browser based Malware code.

As I say I used to use ESET Smart Secuirty for years also but could not see the point in continuing to use a product that I could increasingly not accessibly interact with. lp to deal with it which defeats the point really.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

MalwareBytes claims that the latest 4.X releases can be used as an antivirus program (not the free, on-demand only version.) However, because they don't use standard definition or signature files I feel a bit jittery depending on it as my main security tool. Their reasons for why this is a nonissue are somewhat compelling and I realize that standard definition files are not the only way to protect a computer. Still I am not comfortable using it as my sole or even my primary security tool.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

Hi,

You can use malware bites, it is about 90% accessible, and mostly useable, and it is a very strong anti-virus software, most prefer it ove others. Yes windows defender is the most accessible, but if you want a better antivirus, that is accessible 90% of the time and is much more secure than windows defender, I would go for malware bites.

 

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:20 PM david Jennette <dcjenn@...> wrote:

I sent this an hour or so ago but didn’t see it post to the list so I’m going to try again. Sorry if you all get the message a second time.

I’m wondering if windows defender is still the best antivirus software to use with jaws or if there are now other packages that are accessible now. I figured I’d ask because some time has passed and things might have changed. Thanks.

Hello, group,

Specific to this post, How do I get to a place on the desktop where there is no focus in setting up a shortcut. Do I close all windows? As I recall, I focus on the JAWS and then implement the steps in the process of putting an incon on the desktop?

I would appreciate some clarification.

Best, Justin

Yes, that’s what I’m talking about

Go to the messenger website. There is a direct link to the microsft store where the app can be downloaded. You can probably do a search at the store itself too but the last time I tried that, I couldn’t seem to get the right result to come up/activate so I think going through the web is preferrable, but it’s up to you.

Anyway, once you click “get”, the software will install. Once tha’ts done I open windows search and start typing in “messenger”. It will come up and you can work with it from there.

hi can you get the messenger app for your PC?

So that you don't have to go to the messenger web site to use it.

And if so where do you go to get it and what is the best way to install it?

Never tried using this feature, but you can download the messenger “app” and install that. It’s a Windows Store app. Go to

http://www.messenger.com

It has buttons to audio or video call people on your list. Not sure if there’s a way to do this from within browser or not…

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: June 15, 2020 11:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Video Chatting on Facebook Using JAWS

 

Anyone:

 

I looked up the instructions about how to video chat with a friend on Facebook.  The first thing it says is “Click in the upper right of the screen.”  Is there any way using JAWS that you can video chat with someone?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

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Casey

I live in Canada too and assuming this would be the case.

I used to deal with Richard from Frontier computing back in the day. It was great – prompt responses, great customer service, very honest and up front.

These days it’s a dealer in Quebec that, not only have I never heard of, last time I bought an SMA, attempted to over charge me before I called them out, took 6 days to call back, and, though they took my money immediately, took a week and a half to actually send me confirmation that yes, my SMA had, in fact, been approved and renewed.

It’s really a shame as customer service from first party (Vispero) Is absolutely great. Of course, I may be in the minority here. Your mileage may vary and things may have improved since here in Canada. I really hope this is the case.

So since I live in Canada I assume that I can’t take advantage of this either right?

I am by no means a defender of Freedom Scientific, but there are business and licensing issues when dealing in a foreign country that make it very difficult for businesses to operate the same way as in the United States.

So, start lobbying with your government to get things changed.

A lot of companies have to deal with vendors in other countries rather than selling directly to individuals.

I don’t pretend to understand the ins and outs of international sales, so I should shut up now.

HI Pat and list.

Generally, Freedom Scientific or its latest incarnation treats international customers poorly.

I am not affected by this extension, as I have Professional, but it seems that Freedom Scientific service provision in my part of the World, (New Zealand) has suffered by recent events.

It would be nice if Vispero actually took its international customers seriously rather than putting all of the responsibility on small dealerships who are struggling.

Sigh!

Vaughan.

Why that’s just great!!!

Why not make the rest of us unequal to those in the u.s. by not allowing anyone in Ireland for example, take advantage of the same thing.

This, to me, is discrimination.

Thanks for nothing!!!

pat

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 05:04 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Actually Brian, That was Vaughn quoting part of a message I sent. His sentient response was:

Then Freedom Scientific should not charge for products, services and accessories which it claims it cannot provide.

Richard, it was unclear and the attribution was as picked up by Groups.io, so I apologize to you.

And my "sentient" comment remains entirely appropriate for what Vaughn wrote.  He has posted several messages that reveal a gross lack of understanding of the basics of how both the free market and international commerce work.

No private entity has any obligation to provide you, any you, with anything beyond what you have paid for.  If they choose to do so, it should be considered a kindness, and it should be understood that those offers depend on an awful lot of things including laws and contracts.  Pretending otherwise is to be willfully foolish.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

On Jun 17, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Jessica. What exactly do you mean by "install them as apps"?

 

How did you do this?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using edge, how do I add a site to my desktop as an icon?

 

Hi,

Ok, great! 

Thank you so much. 

What I've done for now and this may be quicker, is to install them as apps, which puts them in alphabetical order, along with word, and such. 

 

Regards,

Jessica

 

On Jun 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Jessica. To add a note to Brian's suggestion, if you are unfamiliar as to how to obtain the current web address in Edge, do the following,

 

1. Open Edge, Open the web page for which you want to make a desktop shortcut.

2. Press ALT plus D for the address bar.

3. Copy that result to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.

4. Proceed with Brian's instructions:

5.  Go to the desktop and make certain no item has focus.  Then bring up the context menu, whether by SHIFT+F10 or the Applications/Context Menu key, and select New,Shortcut from that menu.
6. In the Create Shortcut dialog that comes up, in the Type the location of the item edit box, enter the web address you need to open, then activate the Next button.
7. In the Type a name for this shortcut edit box, enter the name of your choosing.  
8. Activate the Finish button, which will place the shortcut using the name you choose on your desktop.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using edge, how do I add a site to my desktop as an icon?

 

Jessica,

           Presuming you have Edge set as your default browser, it's much easier just to set up a shortcut on the desktop yourself.

1.  Go to the desktop and make certain no item has focus.  Then bring up the context menu, whether by SHIFT+F10 or the Applications/Context Menu key, and select New,Shortcut from that menu.
2. In the Create Shortcut dialog that comes up, in the Type the location of the item edit box, enter the web address you need to open, then activate the Next button.
3. In the Type a name for this shortcut edit box, enter the name of your choosing.  
4. Activate the Finish button, which will place the shortcut using the name you choose on your desktop.

That shortcut will open that web address in whatever browser you have defined as your default web browser.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

Hi,

On Jun 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Jessica. To add a note to Brian's suggestion, if you are unfamiliar as to how to obtain the current web address in Edge, do the following,

 

1. Open Edge, Open the web page for which you want to make a desktop shortcut.

2. Press ALT plus D for the address bar.

3. Copy that result to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.

4. Proceed with Brian's instructions:

5.  Go to the desktop and make certain no item has focus.  Then bring up the context menu, whether by SHIFT+F10 or the Applications/Context Menu key, and select New,Shortcut from that menu.
6. In the Create Shortcut dialog that comes up, in the Type the location of the item edit box, enter the web address you need to open, then activate the Next button.
7. In the Type a name for this shortcut edit box, enter the name of your choosing.  
8. Activate the Finish button, which will place the shortcut using the name you choose on your desktop.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using edge, how do I add a site to my desktop as an icon?

 

Jessica,

           Presuming you have Edge set as your default browser, it's much easier just to set up a shortcut on the desktop yourself.

1.  Go to the desktop and make certain no item has focus.  Then bring up the context menu, whether by SHIFT+F10 or the Applications/Context Menu key, and select New,Shortcut from that menu.
2. In the Create Shortcut dialog that comes up, in the Type the location of the item edit box, enter the web address you need to open, then activate the Next button.
3. In the Type a name for this shortcut edit box, enter the name of your choosing.  
4. Activate the Finish button, which will place the shortcut using the name you choose on your desktop.

That shortcut will open that web address in whatever browser you have defined as your default web browser.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss