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moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA


No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.


Gerald




On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:
Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?

Thanks,



John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.




















moderated Can't write email messages using Thunderbird in Grade 2 braille

ann
 

Hi folks,


I'm running latest Windows10 with Jaws2021 and Thunderbird as my default email client. I originally thought this was an Orbit Reader 20 Plus problem. But I just found out it happens when using an APH Refreshabraille 18 display as well. I have my braille settings set for input and  output of Grade 2 braille. When inputting text there is no problem. But when I press the Dot 8 to go to a new line, the display moves to the new line. However, the minute I start to type anything at all, the text is placed back at the top of my email messages. In essence, I'm writing the messages in reverse.


This also happened in Jaws2020.


I'm sorry I blamed my Orbit Reader for this issue. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, like maybe how to fix it?


Thanks for any advice,

~Ann


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

John Doering
 

Makes sense for FS.

 

Thanks,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Van Lant, Robin
 

Thanks for letting us know. I think I'm in the same boat. I seem to recall the same was said when I last renewed. That is, I think I was told a price for the SMA and that the price was only guaranteed until the end of that calendar year, which I guess would have ben 2018, since I bought 2 upgrades.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.






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moderated Re: Jaws SMA

NFB Lab 4
 

There is one thing I did not know until I called freedom scientific. If your SMA expires with the 2021 addition, then you only have until January 1 of 21 in order to get it at the lower price. After January 1 they charge you an additional $60 to upgrade.


On Nov 16, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



But I think those of us with a professional license still need to do the SMA route, isn’t that right?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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moderated Re: form fields in word

 

Cynthia,

           Can you send me a blank copy of the document?  It is impossible to advise accurately unless I actually know what it is that you're dealing with.  It's definitely not a typical fillable form based on what you've said.

--

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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Van Lant, Robin
 

But I think those of us with a professional license still need to do the SMA route, isn’t that right?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Gerald Levy
 


No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.


Gerald

 



On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:
Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?

Thanks,



John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.




















moderated Office 365

Andrew Summers
 

Hi All,

A question about office 365 version number.

My word and outlook apps and so on is 2016, when there are updates, why don’t my apps get updated to 2019?

Is there a way to get them updated to 2019?

 

Andrew


moderated Re: form fields in word

Justin Williams
 

Freedom might be able to assist with making it an accessible form, and I
thinjk AIRA can also do that.

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

Often the cursor is placed at the end of a form. Left arrow often finds the
text. then you can use home to get to the beginning. sometimes pressing
ctrl+a to select the text makes JAWS speak it. If you are sure there is
text, though, arrow left and it might just magically appear.

Good luck!
At 11:37 AM 11/16/2020, you wrote:
Maybe you can copy and paste it to a fresh notepad document to give you
a chance to read it so you know what it says.

Justin


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

Hi Brian,

These are forms my students have completed. I tried the key commands
you listed, but nothing seems to happen.

From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:14 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

Cynthia,

Are you being tasked with looking at forms that others have
already filled out? If so, you might want to consider converting the
whole form to "straight MS-Word document" format, even if just for the
purpose of reading, and not saving the result if it must remain as a
fillable form. If it does not need to remain that way after you've
received it for processing, and you may need to refer to it later, I'd
save the "converted to normal MS-Word document" version for filing
purposes.

When dealing with fillable Word forms as the person
filling them out, unless you have your screen reader echoing
character-by-character as you type, you will hear nothing as you fill
out a form field. This is a quirk of how these are processed by Word.
You've got to complete the filling in, tab to the next
field/checkbox/whatever, then Shift+TAB back to get your text that you
filled in read.

----------------------------------
What follows presumes the designer of the fillable form did what they
should have and imposed editing restrictions such that the original
recipient was only able to traverse the fillable parts and interact
with them. Also that they did not password protect these settings as
well, otherwise you'd have to know the password to complete the removal
of editing restrictions.

Unprotecting All Word Form Fields and Converting Them to Regular Text

1. You must first remove the restricted editing settings that
allow you only to fill out the form

a. Activate the Developer Tab, Restrict Editing. ALT+L,PE

b. Activate the Stop Protection button, which is the only
button. Just Hit Enter

c. Close the Restrict Editing pane. CTRL+Spacebar,C

2. Select all content in the document. CTRL+A

3. Issue the command to convert all form fields to regular
Word text. CTRL+SHIFT+F9

At this point all form fields will be straight text like the rest of
the document, and can be edited just as you usually would. You cannot
reverse this action, so be certain you have filled out anything that
needs to have been filled out before going through the above steps.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: form fields in word

Justin Williams
 

Would you touch cursor work in this situation?

If not, then maybe using AIrA would be the way to go.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

Often the cursor is placed at the end of a form. Left arrow often finds the
text. then you can use home to get to the beginning. sometimes pressing
ctrl+a to select the text makes JAWS speak it. If you are sure there is
text, though, arrow left and it might just magically appear.

Good luck!
At 11:37 AM 11/16/2020, you wrote:
Maybe you can copy and paste it to a fresh notepad document to give you
a chance to read it so you know what it says.

Justin


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

Hi Brian,

These are forms my students have completed. I tried the key commands
you listed, but nothing seems to happen.

From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:14 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

Cynthia,

Are you being tasked with looking at forms that others have
already filled out? If so, you might want to consider converting the
whole form to "straight MS-Word document" format, even if just for the
purpose of reading, and not saving the result if it must remain as a
fillable form. If it does not need to remain that way after you've
received it for processing, and you may need to refer to it later, I'd
save the "converted to normal MS-Word document" version for filing
purposes.

When dealing with fillable Word forms as the person
filling them out, unless you have your screen reader echoing
character-by-character as you type, you will hear nothing as you fill
out a form field. This is a quirk of how these are processed by Word.
You've got to complete the filling in, tab to the next
field/checkbox/whatever, then Shift+TAB back to get your text that you
filled in read.

----------------------------------
What follows presumes the designer of the fillable form did what they
should have and imposed editing restrictions such that the original
recipient was only able to traverse the fillable parts and interact
with them. Also that they did not password protect these settings as
well, otherwise you'd have to know the password to complete the removal
of editing restrictions.

Unprotecting All Word Form Fields and Converting Them to Regular Text

1. You must first remove the restricted editing settings that
allow you only to fill out the form

a. Activate the Developer Tab, Restrict Editing. ALT+L,PE

b. Activate the Stop Protection button, which is the only
button. Just Hit Enter

c. Close the Restrict Editing pane. CTRL+Spacebar,C

2. Select all content in the document. CTRL+A

3. Issue the command to convert all form fields to regular
Word text. CTRL+SHIFT+F9

At this point all form fields will be straight text like the rest of
the document, and can be edited just as you usually would. You cannot
reverse this action, so be certain you have filled out anything that
needs to have been filled out before going through the above steps.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: form fields in word

Ann Byrne
 

Often the cursor is placed at the end of a form. Left arrow often finds the text. then you can use home to get to the beginning. sometimes pressing ctrl+a to select the text makes JAWS speak it. If you are sure there is text, though, arrow left and it might just magically appear.

Good luck!

At 11:37 AM 11/16/2020, you wrote:
Maybe you can copy and paste it to a fresh notepad document to give you a chance to read it so you know what it says.

Justin


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

Hi Brian,

These are forms my students have completed. I tried the key commands you listed, but nothing seems to happen.

From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:14 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

Cynthia,

Are you being tasked with looking at forms that others have already filled out? If so, you might want to consider converting the whole form to "straight MS-Word document" format, even if just for the purpose of reading, and not saving the result if it must remain as a fillable form. If it does not need to remain that way after you've received it for processing, and you may need to refer to it later, I'd save the "converted to normal MS-Word document" version for filing purposes.

When dealing with fillable Word forms as the person filling them out, unless you have your screen reader echoing character-by-character as you type, you will hear nothing as you fill out a form field. This is a quirk of how these are processed by Word. You've got to complete the filling in, tab to the next field/checkbox/whatever, then Shift+TAB back to get your text that you filled in read.

----------------------------------
What follows presumes the designer of the fillable form did what they should have and imposed editing restrictions such that the original recipient was only able to traverse the fillable parts and interact with them. Also that they did not password protect these settings as well, otherwise you'd have to know the password to complete the removal of editing restrictions.

Unprotecting All Word Form Fields and Converting Them to Regular Text

1. You must first remove the restricted editing settings that allow you only to fill out the form

a. Activate the Developer Tab, Restrict Editing. ALT+L,PE

b. Activate the Stop Protection button, which is the only button. Just Hit Enter

c. Close the Restrict Editing pane. CTRL+Spacebar,C

2. Select all content in the document. CTRL+A

3. Issue the command to convert all form fields to regular Word text. CTRL+SHIFT+F9

At this point all form fields will be straight text like the rest of the document, and can be edited just as you usually would. You cannot reverse this action, so be certain you have filled out anything that needs to have been filled out before going through the above steps.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

T. Civitello
 

I am in the same situation. Do you know what the alternative is? I believe it is a set amount a year. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I
purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the
cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know
what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: form fields in word

Justin Williams
 

There should be a way to make the form an accessible document.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

 

Hi Brian,

 

These are forms my students have completed. I tried the key commands you listed, but nothing seems to happen.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

 

Cynthia,

           Are you being tasked with looking at forms that others have already filled out?  If so, you might want to consider converting the whole form to "straight MS-Word document" format, even if just for the purpose of reading, and not saving the result if it must remain as a fillable form.  If it does not need to remain that way after you've received it for processing, and you may need to refer to it later, I'd save the "converted to normal MS-Word document" version for filing purposes.

            When dealing with fillable Word forms as the person filling them out, unless you have your screen reader echoing character-by-character as you type, you will hear nothing as you fill out a form field.  This is a quirk of how these are processed by Word.  You've got to complete the filling in, tab to the next field/checkbox/whatever, then Shift+TAB back to get your text that you filled in read.

----------------------------------
What follows presumes the designer of the fillable form did what they should have and imposed editing restrictions such that the original recipient was only able to traverse the fillable parts and interact with them.  Also that they did not password protect these settings as well, otherwise you'd have to know the password to complete the removal of editing restrictions.

Unprotecting All Word Form Fields and Converting Them to Regular Text

1.       You must first remove the restricted editing settings that allow you only to fill out the form

a.       Activate the Developer Tab, Restrict Editing.  ALT+L,PE

b.       Activate the Stop Protection button, which is the only button.  Just Hit Enter

c.       Close the Restrict Editing pane.  CTRL+Spacebar,C

2.       Select all content in the document.  CTRL+A

3.       Issue the command to convert all form fields to regular Word text.  CTRL+SHIFT+F9

At this point all form fields will be straight text like the rest of the document, and can be edited just as you usually would.  You cannot reverse this action, so be certain you have filled out anything that needs to have been filled out before going through the above steps.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

I was able to get an SMA this year during the conventions for $120.00. They
usually give a 20-25 percent discount during the conventions. So you might
be better off to purchase one this year at $150.00 if they are going up to
$220.00 next years someone stated.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:11 PM
Subject: Jaws SMA


Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I
purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the
cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know
what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: form fields in word

Justin Williams
 

Maybe you can copy and paste it to a fresh notepad document to give you a chance to read it so you know what it says.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

 

Hi Brian,

 

These are forms my students have completed. I tried the key commands you listed, but nothing seems to happen.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

 

Cynthia,

           Are you being tasked with looking at forms that others have already filled out?  If so, you might want to consider converting the whole form to "straight MS-Word document" format, even if just for the purpose of reading, and not saving the result if it must remain as a fillable form.  If it does not need to remain that way after you've received it for processing, and you may need to refer to it later, I'd save the "converted to normal MS-Word document" version for filing purposes.

            When dealing with fillable Word forms as the person filling them out, unless you have your screen reader echoing character-by-character as you type, you will hear nothing as you fill out a form field.  This is a quirk of how these are processed by Word.  You've got to complete the filling in, tab to the next field/checkbox/whatever, then Shift+TAB back to get your text that you filled in read.

----------------------------------
What follows presumes the designer of the fillable form did what they should have and imposed editing restrictions such that the original recipient was only able to traverse the fillable parts and interact with them.  Also that they did not password protect these settings as well, otherwise you'd have to know the password to complete the removal of editing restrictions.

Unprotecting All Word Form Fields and Converting Them to Regular Text

1.       You must first remove the restricted editing settings that allow you only to fill out the form

a.       Activate the Developer Tab, Restrict Editing.  ALT+L,PE

b.       Activate the Stop Protection button, which is the only button.  Just Hit Enter

c.       Close the Restrict Editing pane.  CTRL+Spacebar,C

2.       Select all content in the document.  CTRL+A

3.       Issue the command to convert all form fields to regular Word text.  CTRL+SHIFT+F9

At this point all form fields will be straight text like the rest of the document, and can be edited just as you usually would.  You cannot reverse this action, so be certain you have filled out anything that needs to have been filled out before going through the above steps.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

John Doering
 

Boy, that is a jump in price. That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade. Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?

Thanks,



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: form fields in word

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi Brian,

 

These are forms my students have completed. I tried the key commands you listed, but nothing seems to happen.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

 

Cynthia,

           Are you being tasked with looking at forms that others have already filled out?  If so, you might want to consider converting the whole form to "straight MS-Word document" format, even if just for the purpose of reading, and not saving the result if it must remain as a fillable form.  If it does not need to remain that way after you've received it for processing, and you may need to refer to it later, I'd save the "converted to normal MS-Word document" version for filing purposes.

            When dealing with fillable Word forms as the person filling them out, unless you have your screen reader echoing character-by-character as you type, you will hear nothing as you fill out a form field.  This is a quirk of how these are processed by Word.  You've got to complete the filling in, tab to the next field/checkbox/whatever, then Shift+TAB back to get your text that you filled in read.

----------------------------------
What follows presumes the designer of the fillable form did what they should have and imposed editing restrictions such that the original recipient was only able to traverse the fillable parts and interact with them.  Also that they did not password protect these settings as well, otherwise you'd have to know the password to complete the removal of editing restrictions.

Unprotecting All Word Form Fields and Converting Them to Regular Text

1.       You must first remove the restricted editing settings that allow you only to fill out the form

a.       Activate the Developer Tab, Restrict Editing.  ALT+L,PE

b.       Activate the Stop Protection button, which is the only button.  Just Hit Enter

c.       Close the Restrict Editing pane.  CTRL+Spacebar,C

2.       Select all content in the document.  CTRL+A

3.       Issue the command to convert all form fields to regular Word text.  CTRL+SHIFT+F9

At this point all form fields will be straight text like the rest of the document, and can be edited just as you usually would.  You cannot reverse this action, so be certain you have filled out anything that needs to have been filled out before going through the above steps.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I
purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the
cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know
what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Richard Turner
 

Yes, the price went up.
It is still cheaper than the "license' model for the US, which is $90 per year, or $180 for two years.
I just went ahead and bought the new SMA so I am good through 2023.



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.

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