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locked Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,
First Amendment allows anyone to add to their signature and that includes
those who desire to share something about themselves, and the importance of
faith and belief in God, in their post. Many signatures also include
common , non religious, sayings. IF we begin to eliminate some then all
must go.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included,
concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

Many personal signatures on the list include religious statements. Why are
these allowed???
At 04:45 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote:
Blind-users@groups.io but religion and politics are off limits
everything else goes.

On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, James English wrote:
What are these lists? I've been looking for a general blindness list
for a while

On 11/17/20, Dale Heltzer <deheltzer@msn.com> wrote:
C'mon y'all, we get a reminder on the first of each month what the
list rules are... one of which is:

******
2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything
related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If
it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This
includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as
Window Eyes.

I would also add, as an admonition, that advising anyone to simply
hit the Delete key shows disrespect for fellow list members.
There are other lists on which this material *would be appropriate.
Many of us subscribe to such lists and don't appreciate the
cross-posting when said posting is outside the purview of a given list.

And now, I wish you all well.
Be safe




From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar
Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning
Social Security for people with a disability


And there are people on this list, from outside of America, who are
not in the least interested in what goes on politically over there.
On 17/11/2020 9:07 pm, Michael Mote wrote:
This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have
posted something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it,
but this was allowed. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let's stick
to the reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to
ourselves or at least on lists besides this one.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want
to read this.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disa
bled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-So
cial-Security?detail=emaildkre



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at:
www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
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e208d7a1e6e84d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885
424004847&sdata=GAS0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&rese
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locked Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

Ann Byrne
 

Many personal signatures on the list include religious statements. Why are these allowed???

At 04:45 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote:
Blind-users@groups.io but religion and politics are off limits everything else goes.

On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, James English wrote:
What are these lists? I've been looking for a general blindness list for a while

On 11/17/20, Dale Heltzer <deheltzer@msn.com> wrote:
C'mon y'all, we get a reminder on the first of each month what the list
rules are... one of which is:

******
2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to
JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have
to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't
limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

I would also add, as an admonition, that advising anyone to simply hit the
Delete key shows disrespect for fellow list members.
There are other lists on which this material *would be appropriate. Many of
us subscribe to such lists and don't appreciate the cross-posting when said
posting is outside the purview of a given list.

And now, I wish you all well.
Be safe




From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability


And there are people on this list, from outside of America, who are not in
the least interested in what goes on politically over there.
On 17/11/2020 9:07 pm, Michael Mote wrote:
This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have posted
something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it, but this was
allowed. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let's stick to the
reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to ourselves or at
least on lists besides this one.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read
this.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at:
www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata=GAS0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0>

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locked Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

Randy Barnett
 

Blind-users@groups.io but religion and politics are off limits everything else goes.

On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, James English wrote:
What are these lists? I've been looking for a general blindness list for a while

On 11/17/20, Dale Heltzer <deheltzer@msn.com> wrote:
C'mon y'all, we get a reminder on the first of each month what the list
rules are... one of which is:

******
2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to
JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have
to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't
limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

I would also add, as an admonition, that advising anyone to simply hit the
Delete key shows disrespect for fellow list members.
There are other lists on which this material *would be appropriate. Many of
us subscribe to such lists and don't appreciate the cross-posting when said
posting is outside the purview of a given list.

And now, I wish you all well.
Be safe




From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability


And there are people on this list, from outside of America, who are not in
the least interested in what goes on politically over there.
On 17/11/2020 9:07 pm, Michael Mote wrote:
This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have posted
something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it, but this was
allowed. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let's stick to the
reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to ourselves or at
least on lists besides this one.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read
this.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at:
www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata=GAS0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0>

*I'm not the card shark









moderated Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document

Richard Turner
 

Open the view menu with alt+w
Tab until you hear something like number of pages. make sure 1 is selectedand hit enter.
do  

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished 


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:


Richard,  I did try switching from Print view to Draft View, but the same thing happened.  How do I know how many pages are being displayed and how do I just show one page?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document
 
You may want to check the view.Draft or Print view seem to work the best for me, but also make sure it isn't trying to show more than one page at a time.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@...> wrote:

Marty,
I have experienced the same problem.  Oddly, sometimes I can read headings and bulleted items okay, and other times not so.  I had planned to try an older version of JAWS but haven't gottn there yet.
Glad I'm not the only one seeing this.
Pat ByrneAt 03:24 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote:
I was recently trying to read a Word Document with headers and lots of bulleted statements using the latest JAWS 2021 and when I pressed Insert Down Arrow to read the document, JAWS gets stuck when reading a heading or a statement with a bullet.  It will continue to repeat the line until I press the Down Arrow.  I then restart the reading and all goes fine until the next heading when JAWS would start reading the heading line over and over again.  Has anyone else experienced this behavior?  I was able to finish reading this document by using JAWS 2019.








locked Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 05:14 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote:
Mute This Topic at the bottom of this thread.
-
And all topics, in fact.

And for myself, this topic is a much bigger waste of time than the one being complained about.  It has already died its natural death.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document

Marty Hutchings
 

Richard,  I did try switching from Print view to Draft View, but the same thing happened.  How do I know how many pages are being displayed and how do I just show one page?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document
 
You may want to check the view.Draft or Print view seem to work the best for me, but also make sure it isn't trying to show more than one page at a time.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@...> wrote:

Marty,
I have experienced the same problem.  Oddly, sometimes I can read headings and bulleted items okay, and other times not so.  I had planned to try an older version of JAWS but haven't gottn there yet.
Glad I'm not the only one seeing this.
Pat ByrneAt 03:24 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote:
I was recently trying to read a Word Document with headers and lots of bulleted statements using the latest JAWS 2021 and when I pressed Insert Down Arrow to read the document, JAWS gets stuck when reading a heading or a statement with a bullet.  It will continue to repeat the line until I press the Down Arrow.  I then restart the reading and all goes fine until the next heading when JAWS would start reading the heading line over and over again.  Has anyone else experienced this behavior?  I was able to finish reading this document by using JAWS 2019.








locked Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

Marty Hutchings
 

There is also a link for Mute This Topic at the bottom of this thread.



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

-----Original Message-----
From: David Diamond
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

Well, myself I have been hitting the delete key with this topic. I also suggest to ones who lament about groups being to cluttered, if you don't like the post, hit the delete key.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: November 17, 2020 11:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included,
concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

What are these lists? I've been looking for a general blindness list for a while

On 11/17/20, Dale Heltzer <deheltzer@msn.com> wrote:
C'mon y'all, we get a reminder on the first of each month what the
list rules are... one of which is:

******
2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything
related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If
it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This
includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window
Eyes.

I would also add, as an admonition, that advising anyone to simply hit
the Delete key shows disrespect for fellow list members.
There are other lists on which this material *would be appropriate.
Many of us subscribe to such lists and don't appreciate the
cross-posting when said posting is outside the purview of a given list.

And now, I wish you all well.
Be safe




From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar
Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning
Social Security for people with a disability


And there are people on this list, from outside of America, who are
not in the least interested in what goes on politically over there.
On 17/11/2020 9:07 pm, Michael Mote wrote:
This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have
posted something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it, but
this was allowed. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let's stick
to the reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to
ourselves or at least on lists besides this one.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to
read this.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disab
led-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Soci
al-Security?detail=emaildkre



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at:
www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h
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49f7f4e2
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85424
004847&sdata=GAS0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&re
served
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moderated Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document

Marty Hutchings
 

Always.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document
 

Was your screen maximized?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document

 

I was recently trying to read a Word Document with headers and lots of bulleted statements using the latest JAWS 2021 and when I pressed Insert Down Arrow to read the document, JAWS gets stuck when reading a heading or a statement with a bullet.  It will continue to repeat the line until I press the Down Arrow.  I then restart the reading and all goes fine until the next heading when JAWS would start reading the heading line over and over again.  Has anyone else experienced this behavior?  I was able to finish reading this document by using JAWS 2019.


moderated Re: How do I read info bar in Outlook?

Van Lant, Robin
 

This setting is enabled in my Outlook. This appears to relate more to info bars in messages you are receiving, not ones you are composing. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I read info bar in Outlook?

 

There should be a info bar option in the quick settings menu. I sometimes wish it were more configurable, since I get tired of the info bar statement about removing  blank lines. Please forgive any spelling errors, may cat is on my stomach.  



On Nov 12, 2020, at 12:08, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:

 

all,

I need some guidance.  I’m using JAWS 2020 on Windows 10 with Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11929.20966. 

Here at work, if you begin to compose a message to someone who is running an autoreply, an alert with the text of that autoreply will appear. An AIRA agent confirmed that it appears as a line below the ribbon and just above the line where the From button and my email address appear.  I tried to use the JAWS cursor to read the text, but it seems to skip over this line and all the ribbon information.  Here is my speech history for this new message:

Untitled - Message (HTML)
From Button‑ Robin_Van_Lant@...
Send Button‑ To Button‑ Donaldson, Judith
Cc Button‑ 
Bcc Button‑

 

I tried using Convenient OCR to virtualize the screen, but did not gain any new text.  What else can I do to read this line of text?  Are there settings for the JAWS cursor I need to change or is there another way?

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

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moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Van Lant, Robin
 

I think I saw it on in settings under the touch pad tab. If I recall, I typed pointer in the cortana window, then I think I needed to hit a link for advance mouse or pointer options and it brought me to a dialog with various tables, one of which was the touchpad settings tab.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 1:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop mouse question

 

Hi,

How do we know if our laptop supports that gesture?



On Nov 17, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Shan Noyes <shan.noyes@...> wrote:



Hi

 

One thing you might check out is the controls for the touch pad. 

On my laptop I have a touch pad and my sleeves some times causes the mouse to move around however, in my case the fix is quite simple.  If I tap twice on the upper left side it toggles the touch pad on and off.

 

Anyways, just a easy control feature if your laptop supports it. 

 

Have a good day.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop mouse question

 

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--------------------------------------------------------------

Hi,

I actually keep my mouse on. I don’t ever even use the buttons to click when prompted. I usually don’t have any trouble with the mouse pad, unless I have long sleeves on. I keep the mouse on because I sometimes have someone who can see helping with the computer. I like the idea of having cardboard taped to the touchpad, though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question

 

List,

 

I have had numerous laptops over the years and the “mouse” area always causes problems…  Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com

www.OhioBlindGolf.com

 

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moderated Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document

Richard Turner
 

You may want to check the view.Draft or Print view seem to work the best for me, but also make sure it isn't trying to show more than one page at a time.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@...> wrote:

Marty,
I have experienced the same problem.  Oddly, sometimes I can read headings and bulleted items okay, and other times not so.  I had planned to try an older version of JAWS but haven't gottn there yet.
Glad I'm not the only one seeing this.
Pat ByrneAt 03:24 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote:
I was recently trying to read a Word Document with headers and lots of bulleted statements using the latest JAWS 2021 and when I pressed Insert Down Arrow to read the document, JAWS gets stuck when reading a heading or a statement with a bullet.  It will continue to repeat the line until I press the Down Arrow.  I then restart the reading and all goes fine until the next heading when JAWS would start reading the heading line over and over again.  Has anyone else experienced this behavior?  I was able to finish reading this document by using JAWS 2019.








moderated Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document

Pat Byrne
 

Marty,
I have experienced the same problem. Oddly, sometimes I can read headings and bulleted items okay, and other times not so. I had planned to try an older version of JAWS but haven't gottn there yet.
Glad I'm not the only one seeing this.
Pat ByrneAt 03:24 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote:

I was recently trying to read a Word Document with headers and lots of bulleted statements using the latest JAWS 2021 and when I pressed Insert Down Arrow to read the document, JAWS gets stuck when reading a heading or a statement with a bullet. It will continue to repeat the line until I press the Down Arrow. I then restart the reading and all goes fine until the next heading when JAWS would start reading the heading line over and over again. Has anyone else experienced this behavior? I was able to finish reading this document by using JAWS 2019.


locked Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

David Diamond
 

Well, myself I have been hitting the delete key with this topic. I also suggest to ones who lament about groups being to cluttered, if you don't like the post, hit the delete key.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: November 17, 2020 11:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included,
concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

What are these lists? I've been looking for a general blindness list for a while

On 11/17/20, Dale Heltzer <deheltzer@msn.com> wrote:
> C'mon y'all, we get a reminder on the first of each month what the
> list rules are... one of which is:
>
> ******
> 2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything
> related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If
> it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This
> includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window
Eyes.
>
> I would also add, as an admonition, that advising anyone to simply hit
> the Delete key shows disrespect for fellow list members.
> There are other lists on which this material *would be appropriate.
> Many of us subscribe to such lists and don't appreciate the
> cross-posting when said posting is outside the purview of a given list.
>
> And now, I wish you all well.
> Be safe
>
>
>
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar
> Sidek
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:03 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning
> Social Security for people with a disability
>
>
> And there are people on this list, from outside of America, who are
> not in the least interested in what goes on politically over there.
> On 17/11/2020 9:07 pm, Michael Mote wrote:
> This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have
> posted something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it, but
> this was allowed. Doesn't seem fair to me.
> Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let's stick
> to the reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to
> ourselves or at least on lists besides this one.
>
>
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> <main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
> Turner
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
> Security for people with a disability
>
> If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to
> read this.
> https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disab
> led-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Soci
> al-Security?detail=emaildkre
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
> of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
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moderated Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document

Justin Williams
 

Was your screen maximized?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document

 

I was recently trying to read a Word Document with headers and lots of bulleted statements using the latest JAWS 2021 and when I pressed Insert Down Arrow to read the document, JAWS gets stuck when reading a heading or a statement with a bullet.  It will continue to repeat the line until I press the Down Arrow.  I then restart the reading and all goes fine until the next heading when JAWS would start reading the heading line over and over again.  Has anyone else experienced this behavior?  I was able to finish reading this document by using JAWS 2019.


moderated JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document

Marty Hutchings
 

I was recently trying to read a Word Document with headers and lots of bulleted statements using the latest JAWS 2021 and when I pressed Insert Down Arrow to read the document, JAWS gets stuck when reading a heading or a statement with a bullet.  It will continue to repeat the line until I press the Down Arrow.  I then restart the reading and all goes fine until the next heading when JAWS would start reading the heading line over and over again.  Has anyone else experienced this behavior?  I was able to finish reading this document by using JAWS 2019.


moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Jasmine Kotsay
 

Hi,
How do we know if our laptop supports that gesture?

On Nov 17, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Shan Noyes <shan.noyes@...> wrote:



Hi

 

One thing you might check out is the controls for the touch pad. 

On my laptop I have a touch pad and my sleeves some times causes the mouse to move around however, in my case the fix is quite simple.  If I tap twice on the upper left side it toggles the touch pad on and off.

 

Anyways, just a easy control feature if your laptop supports it. 

 

Have a good day.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop mouse question

 

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Hi,

I actually keep my mouse on. I don’t ever even use the buttons to click when prompted. I usually don’t have any trouble with the mouse pad, unless I have long sleeves on. I keep the mouse on because I sometimes have someone who can see helping with the computer. I like the idea of having cardboard taped to the touchpad, though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question

 

List,

 

I have had numerous laptops over the years and the “mouse” area always causes problems…  Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

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locked Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

Gerald Levy
 


You might be interested in joining the Blind Talk list, a general list for discussing all aspects of blindness.  To join, send a blank message to:


blind-talk+subscribe@groups.io


Gerald



On 11/17/2020 2:17 PM, James English wrote:
What are these lists? I've been looking for a general blindness list for a while

On 11/17/20, Dale Heltzer <deheltzer@...> wrote:
C'mon y'all, we get a reminder on the first of each month what the list
rules are... one of which is:

******
2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to
JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have
to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't
limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

I would also add, as an admonition, that advising anyone to simply hit the
Delete key shows disrespect for fellow list members.
There are other lists on which this material *would be appropriate. Many of
us subscribe to such lists and don't appreciate the cross-posting when said
posting is outside the purview of a given list.

And now, I wish you all well.
Be safe




From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability


And there are people on this list, from outside of America, who are not in
the least interested in what goes on politically over there.
On 17/11/2020 9:07 pm, Michael Mote wrote:
This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have posted
something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it, but this was
allowed. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let's stick to the
reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to ourselves or at
least on lists besides this one.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read
this.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at:
www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata=GAS0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0>

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moderated Jaws2020 Task manager question

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All  When I have google chrome  with m.facebook.com  opens  and firefox  too. When one of the browser window won’t closed out I press alt + f4 when I press insert key + t for title  it’s say google chrome  m.facebook.com  friends then I press alt +f4  to closed it out however it won’t closed it  so when I press ctrl + shift +esc  again then I have try to task firefox and microsoft outlook  it won’t task and closed out it so I had to restart the computer .

What can I do to fix the task manager to get close out of firefox,google chrome and microsoft outlook  ?

Addison    so I try to press alt + f4 again  it won’t closed out  so it stuck  so I press ctrl + shift + esc  task manager   I’m on the taskmanager window page  it’s say

Task Manager

File Options View

Processes Performance App history Startup Users Details Services

 34% 93% 19% 0%

Name Status CPU Memory Disk Network P

Apps (5) graphic 507 Application file for JAWS (2) 9.5% 32.8 MB 0.1 MB/s 0 Mbps

Firefox (6) 0.3% 241.9 MB 0 MB/s 0 Mbps graphic 22 Google Chrome (3) 0% 28.3 MB 0 MB/s 0 Mbps

Microsoft Office Outlook 0% 42.5 MB 0 MB/s 0 Mbps

Task Manager 10.9% 13.8 MB 0.1 MB/s 0 Mbps graphic 22 Background processes (51)

Adobe Acrobat Update Service 0% 0.2 MB 0 MB/s 0 Mbps graphic 22 Antimalware Service Executable 2.6% 171.2 MB 4.3 MB/s 0 Mbps

Application Frame Host 0% 0.9 MB 0 MB/s 0 Mbps graphic 22 COM Surrogate 0% 1.2 MB 0 MB/s 0 Mbps

COM Surrogate 0% 1.6 MB 0 MB/s 0 Mbps graphic 660 CTF Loader 0% 2.7 MB 0 MB/s 0 Mbps

Fewer details End task

 

When I arrow down to google chrome  it’s say close  so I try to right arrow to open but it won’t go to open at all  !! So I press tab key it say detailed  then I press tab  again it say task button  so I press enter then I press alt + f4 to closed out task manager window  then I’m still on google chrome page with m.facebook.com  on


locked Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

James English
 

What are these lists? I've been looking for a general blindness list for a while

On 11/17/20, Dale Heltzer <deheltzer@msn.com> wrote:
C'mon y'all, we get a reminder on the first of each month what the list
rules are... one of which is:

******
2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to
JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have
to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't
limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

I would also add, as an admonition, that advising anyone to simply hit the
Delete key shows disrespect for fellow list members.
There are other lists on which this material *would be appropriate. Many of
us subscribe to such lists and don't appreciate the cross-posting when said
posting is outside the purview of a given list.

And now, I wish you all well.
Be safe




From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability


And there are people on this list, from outside of America, who are not in
the least interested in what goes on politically over there.
On 17/11/2020 9:07 pm, Michael Mote wrote:
This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have posted
something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it, but this was
allowed. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let's stick to the
reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to ourselves or at
least on lists besides this one.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social
Security for people with a disability

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read
this.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at:
www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata=GAS0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0>

*I'm not the card shark








locked List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)

Dale Heltzer
 

C’mon y’all, we get a reminder on the first of each month what the list rules are… one of which is:

 

******

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

 

I would also add, as an admonition, that advising anyone to simply hit the Delete key shows disrespect for fellow list members.

There are other lists on which this material *would be appropriate. Many of us subscribe to such lists and don’t appreciate the cross-posting when said posting is outside the purview of a given list.

 

And now, I wish you all well.

Be safe

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

And there are people on this list, from outside of America, who are not in the least interested in what goes on politically over there.

On 17/11/2020 9:07 pm, Michael Mote wrote:

This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have posted something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it, but this was allowed. Doesn’t seem fair to me.

Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let’s stick to the reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to ourselves or at least on lists besides this one.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

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