Does the microsoft version of the win pe include a working copy of narator in the recovery mode?

Thanks

Hi Kevin,

I am pretty sure that I went with traditional.  Its been a while.  I do remember not changing any global options.

Yep, there were loads of questions that I did not know how to answer during the installation.  I think I remember trying to use what appeared to just be the default settings.

I’m not sure about what you mean when you use the acronym IFP.  But, in the Image for Windows settings, you can go with the default settings and be OK with just two or three changes.

I think Jaws will read more of the check boxes in settings if you check the accessible check box.  I always check the completion alarm so I know when the entire process has finished.  I always always, check the verification and the byte per byte verification check boxes.  But, these show up as a plus sign to show you that these settings were added.

There is more than one place in the IFW menus where you get the option to create an IFW recovery boot disk.  One place is in the Windows start menu within the Terabyte folder.

I’m Still wishing good luck for all who are developing an image backup game plan.

James,

I uninstalled it again and reinstalled it. This time it works. Must have donething wrong.

There are some options I have no idea what to do with. Did you install simple or traditional version? Then when I ran the IFP there were more things I didn’t know what to do with. There was two screens with global options. I just left these alone.

Thanks,

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Sorry that you are having some problems installing Image for Windows.  Since I do not know an answer, I suggest two options.

First, I would consider trying IFW tech support again.  I think you received a wrong answer the last time that you tried tech support but you might get lucky with a different person.

Second, there still may be members on this list who can offer a possible solution to assist you in installing Image for Windows.

I did do the 30 day trial. Ran into some problems.

Here is what happen. Now I can no longer try out the trial.

I installed it and realized I need to install the traditional option. Support at TeraByte told me I  could uninstall and reinstall. I did that and when I started the software it asked me to purchase, cancel. I used the Jaws cursor and found continued was unavailable. I told support that and was told to click on continue. I knew that wouldn’t work. I tried it any and it didn’t work. Told support and they have not gotten back to me. There has only been 1 day since the download. Not 30 days. Now what?

Hi,

You can download a 30-day trial version of Image for Windows (The TeraByte Unlimited :: TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite)  at the link below. 

To download, click on the link that says something like 30-day trial GUI.  Note, GUI stands for graphical user interface. 

https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

James B 

I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?

Thanks,

No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help

That was quick.  It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.

As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.

Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?

Congratulations,

James B 

I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.

Greetings to Cihan Yazici  and list,

I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows.  However, I do not.

IFW is extremely complicated for me.  Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills.  I have tried to share as many tips as possible and  Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.

Regards,

James B 

Hello friends;

I have reviewed the program you suggested.

I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many.

I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us?

I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least.

love to all of you.

----- Original Message -----

From: René H. Nielsen

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:28 PM

Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hi!

I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file.

 

Best regards René H. Nielsen

 

 

Fra: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> På vegne af Steve Matzura
Sendt: 3. maj 2020 19:15
Til: main@jfw.groups.io
Emne: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100% accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com

 

On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4 accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup. Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help. Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows install.

David Griffith

 

 

On 3 May 2020, at 17:44, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:



Tom,

If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later time.

Also, when you do this, you can delete two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of twice your RAM.

So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save 8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD, and windows will recreate those two files on boot-up.

They are just temp files Windows uses as virtual memory.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 11:31 AM

Subject: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hello.

 

I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use independently, and that works well with Jaws?

 

I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to back up my complete hard drive if possible.

 

Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m wrong.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Too obvious to be a mere coincidence...

If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at something being wrong with your hardware.

Application software has never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count viruses or malware as "application software.")

You are, however, giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and taking full system image backups on a routine cycle.  The number of things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous, and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways they shouldn't or drive failure.  Having a backup saves you untold time and grief.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

Hi Kevin,

I am pretty sure that I went with traditional.  Its been a while.  I do remember not changing any global options.

Yep, there were loads of questions that I did not know how to answer during the installation.  I think I remember trying to use what appeared to just be the default settings.

I’m not sure about what you mean when you use the acronym IFP.  But, in the Image for Windows settings, you can go with the default settings and be OK with just two or three changes.

I think Jaws will read more of the check boxes in settings if you check the accessible check box.  I always check the completion alarm so I know when the entire process has finished.  I always always, check the verification and the byte per byte verification check boxes.  But, these show up as a plus sign to show you that these settings were added.

There is more than one place in the IFW menus where you get the option to create an IFW recovery boot disk.  One place is in the Windows start menu within the Terabyte folder.

I’m Still wishing good luck for all who are developing an image backup game plan.

James,

I uninstalled it again and reinstalled it. This time it works. Must have donething wrong.

There are some options I have no idea what to do with. Did you install simple or traditional version? Then when I ran the IFP there were more things I didn’t know what to do with. There was two screens with global options. I just left these alone.

Thanks,

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Sorry that you are having some problems installing Image for Windows.  Since I do not know an answer, I suggest two options.

First, I would consider trying IFW tech support again.  I think you received a wrong answer the last time that you tried tech support but you might get lucky with a different person.

Second, there still may be members on this list who can offer a possible solution to assist you in installing Image for Windows.

I did do the 30 day trial. Ran into some problems.

Here is what happen. Now I can no longer try out the trial.

I installed it and realized I need to install the traditional option. Support at TeraByte told me I  could uninstall and reinstall. I did that and when I started the software it asked me to purchase, cancel. I used the Jaws cursor and found continued was unavailable. I told support that and was told to click on continue. I knew that wouldn’t work. I tried it any and it didn’t work. Told support and they have not gotten back to me. There has only been 1 day since the download. Not 30 days. Now what?

Hi,

You can download a 30-day trial version of Image for Windows (The TeraByte Unlimited :: TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite)  at the link below. 

To download, click on the link that says something like 30-day trial GUI.  Note, GUI stands for graphical user interface. 

https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

James B 

I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?

Thanks,

No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help

That was quick.  It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.

As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.

Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?

Congratulations,

James B 

I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.

Greetings to Cihan Yazici  and list,

I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows.  However, I do not.

IFW is extremely complicated for me.  Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills.  I have tried to share as many tips as possible and  Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.

Regards,

James B 

Hello friends;

I have reviewed the program you suggested.

I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many.

I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us?

I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least.

love to all of you.

----- Original Message -----

From: René H. Nielsen

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:28 PM

Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hi!

I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file.

 

Best regards René H. Nielsen

 

 

Fra: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> På vegne af Steve Matzura
Sendt: 3. maj 2020 19:15
Til: main@jfw.groups.io
Emne: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100% accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com

 

On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4 accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup. Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help. Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows install.

David Griffith

 

 

On 3 May 2020, at 17:44, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:



Tom,

If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later time.

Also, when you do this, you can delete two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of twice your RAM.

So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save 8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD, and windows will recreate those two files on boot-up.

They are just temp files Windows uses as virtual memory.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 11:31 AM

Subject: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hello.

 

I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use independently, and that works well with Jaws?

 

I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to back up my complete hard drive if possible.

 

Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m wrong.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Too obvious to be a mere coincidence...

If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at something being wrong with your hardware.

Application software has never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count viruses or malware as "application software.")

You are, however, giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and taking full system image backups on a routine cycle.  The number of things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous, and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways they shouldn't or drive failure.  Having a backup saves you untold time and grief.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

  From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

James,

I uninstalled it again and reinstalled it. This time it works. Must have donething wrong.

There are some options I have no idea what to do with. Did you install simple or traditional version? Then when I ran the IFP there were more things I didn’t know what to do with. There was two screens with global options. I just left these alone.

Thanks,

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Sorry that you are having some problems installing Image for Windows.  Since I do not know an answer, I suggest two options.

First, I would consider trying IFW tech support again.  I think you received a wrong answer the last time that you tried tech support but you might get lucky with a different person.

Second, there still may be members on this list who can offer a possible solution to assist you in installing Image for Windows.

I did do the 30 day trial. Ran into some problems.

Here is what happen. Now I can no longer try out the trial.

I installed it and realized I need to install the traditional option. Support at TeraByte told me I  could uninstall and reinstall. I did that and when I started the software it asked me to purchase, cancel. I used the Jaws cursor and found continued was unavailable. I told support that and was told to click on continue. I knew that wouldn’t work. I tried it any and it didn’t work. Told support and they have not gotten back to me. There has only been 1 day since the download. Not 30 days. Now what?

Hi,

You can download a 30-day trial version of Image for Windows (The TeraByte Unlimited :: TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite)  at the link below. 

To download, click on the link that says something like 30-day trial GUI.  Note, GUI stands for graphical user interface. 

https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

James B 

I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?

Thanks,

No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help

That was quick.  It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.

As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.

Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?

Congratulations,

James B 

I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.

Greetings to Cihan Yazici  and list,

I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows.  However, I do not.

IFW is extremely complicated for me.  Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills.  I have tried to share as many tips as possible and  Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.

Regards,

James B 

Hello friends;

I have reviewed the program you suggested.

I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many.

I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us?

I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least.

love to all of you.

----- Original Message -----

From: René H. Nielsen

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:28 PM

Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hi!

I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file.

 

Best regards René H. Nielsen

 

 

Fra: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> På vegne af Steve Matzura
Sendt: 3. maj 2020 19:15
Til: main@jfw.groups.io
Emne: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100% accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com

 

On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4 accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup. Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help. Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows install.

David Griffith

 

 

On 3 May 2020, at 17:44, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:



Tom,

If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later time.

Also, when you do this, you can delete two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of twice your RAM.

So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save 8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD, and windows will recreate those two files on boot-up.

They are just temp files Windows uses as virtual memory.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 11:31 AM

Subject: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hello.

 

I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use independently, and that works well with Jaws?

 

I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to back up my complete hard drive if possible.

 

Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m wrong.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Too obvious to be a mere coincidence...

If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at something being wrong with your hardware.

Application software has never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count viruses or malware as "application software.")

You are, however, giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and taking full system image backups on a routine cycle.  The number of things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous, and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways they shouldn't or drive failure.  Having a backup saves you untold time and grief.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

Hi all.

I am using the latest version of Jaws 2020 and Outlook 2016 Home and Business on 2 windows 10 computers. When I go to send a message, the sounds that are supposed to play when the auto fill opens and closes are not sounding. My Microsoft sounds are turned on, and the other day, I talked to both Microsoft disability and Freedom Scientific. I had no luck. This feature has never worked for me. If anyone has any suggestion, it would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Geoff

I tried, but it is not available in Windows Services. I really wish we could choose not to install remote support for home licence.


-----Original Message----- From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2020 Latest Update and Remote Support UI

Did you try going to services and disableing it there?

On 5/3/2020 4:34 AM, Cornelius wrote:

Hi all,
Regarding the latest update to JAWS2020, I found out there is an extra tasks called RemoteSupportUI running on task manager.
There is no option to set it to not run, and running extra tasks like that for someone who does not, and will not use remote support on a JAWS Home licence is a waste of resources, not to mention that JAWS has already have so many tasks needed to run.

I am still hopeful that one day there will be a way to trim the features of JAWS during installationand remove those extras that not everyone need.

Hi all,
Regarding the latest update to JAWS2020, I found out there is an extra tasks called RemoteSupportUI running on task manager.
There is no option to set it to not run, and running extra tasks like that for someone who does not, and will not use remote support on a JAWS Home licence is a waste of resources, not to mention that JAWS has already have so many tasks needed to run.

I am still hopeful that one day there will be a way to trim the features of JAWS during installationand remove those extras that not everyone need.

On May 9, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Cory McMahon <cory.j.mcmahon@...> wrote:



Good afternoon, all:

 

Last night, all of a sudden, JAWS 2018 stopped talking when I have my headphones on; I switched out the headphones; however, that did not resolve the issue. It’s also worth nnoting that there’s still audio coming out of the headphones because, when I go to turn-up/down the volume, I can hear the “ping” sound whenever I slide the volume up or down.

 

I hope this description of the issue makes sense, and I thank-you in advance for any assistance one can offer.

 

Sincerely,

 

Cory McMahon

    Hello my fellow jaws users:

As some of you may remember, I’ve been asking for weeks how to improve the pronunciation of jaws. Particularly, I wanted to do it for eloquence because it’s the synth the I mostly use on a daily basis, and taking into account that I’m not a native English speaker, it was totally inconvenient for me to continue to listen mispronounced words.

Now I bring you a dictionary for eloquence that solves many pronunciation issues when using American English voices. It is not remotely similar to the user’s dictionary, which I think it’s OK for some instances, but for most cases inadequate.

The master mind behind this phonemic dictionary is Amir Soleimani, who started building this dictionary many years ago for other software.

This phonemic dictionary contains more than twenty-two thousand entries, and Amir regularly introduces changes and

New words.

Here are some words in which you can easily perceive a significant difference before and after adding the dictionary, so pay close attention now, and when you have finished the process, returned up to this point and listen again!

hermaphroditus 

cyberphobia       

semitone   

kurzweil   

insincere   

and one of my favorites,

voila!

Let’s cut to the chase!

A couple of notes before the steps:

If you are using the eloquence synth, switch to another synth.

The dictionary file is attached to this E-mail, all you have to do is to download the compressed file and unzip it.

1.    Assuming you have a 64 bit machine, go to the following folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom Scientific\Shared\Eloquence\6.1.Copy the file called “ELOQMAIN.DCT,” and paste it in a safe location, in other words, back it up.

2.    Copy the file that was left after unzipping, which has the same name of the file that you just put in a safe location, and paste it in the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom Scientific\Shared\Eloquence\6.1. If windows asks for confirmation, go ahead and replace the existing file.

You’re all set!

Relaunch jaws, switch to eloquence, and try out the pronunciation of the words above.

In a 32 bit machine, the process should be similar except for the name of the folder program files, but I don’t own a 32 bit machine.

Notice that all we did was to replace the existing file; however, the new file already contains all the entries.

Notice that this is not the jaws user’s dictionary (.JDF file) so, it shouldn’t conflict with it, but in any case, that’s why you must make a backup of that file.

--
Best,
   Leo

On May 9, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Leo <literophilus@...> wrote:



    Hello my fellow jaws users:

As some of you may remember, I’ve been asking for weeks how to improve the pronunciation of jaws. Particularly, I wanted to do it for eloquence because it’s the synth the I mostly use on a daily basis, and taking into account that I’m not a native English speaker, it was totally inconvenient for me to continue to listen mispronounced words.

 

Now I bring you a dictionary for eloquence that solves many pronunciation issues when using American English voices. It is not remotely similar to the user’s dictionary, which I think it’s OK for some instances, but for most cases inadequate.

The master mind behind this phonemic dictionary is Amir Soleimani, who started building this dictionary many years ago for other software.

This phonemic dictionary contains more than twenty-two thousand entries, and Amir regularly introduces changes and

New words.

Here are some words in which you can easily perceive a significant difference before and after adding the dictionary, so pay close attention now, and when you have finished the process, returned up to this point and listen again!

hermaphroditus 

 

cyberphobia       

 

semitone   

 

                                      

kurzweil   

 

insincere   

 

and one of my favorites,

 

voila!

 

Let’s cut to the chase!

A couple of notes before the steps:

If you are using the eloquence synth, switch to another synth.

The dictionary file is attached to this E-mail, all you have to do is to download the compressed file and unzip it.

 

1.    Assuming you have a 64 bit machine, go to the following folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom Scientific\Shared\Eloquence\6.1.Copy the file called “ELOQMAIN.DCT,” and paste it in a safe location, in other words, back it up.

2.    Copy the file that was left after unzipping, which has the same name of the file that you just put in a safe location, and paste it in the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom Scientific\Shared\Eloquence\6.1. If windows asks for confirmation, go ahead and replace the existing file.

You’re all set!

Relaunch jaws, switch to eloquence, and try out the pronunciation of the words above.

In a 32 bit machine, the process should be similar except for the name of the folder program files, but I don’t own a 32 bit machine.

 

Notice that all we did was to replace the existing file; however, the new file already contains all the entries.

Notice that this is not the jaws user’s dictionary (.JDF file) so, it shouldn’t conflict with it, but in any case, that’s why you must make a backup of that file.

 

 

 

 

 

--
Best,
   Leo

Hi Kevin,

Sorry that you are having some problems installing Image for Windows.  Since I do not know an answer, I suggest two options.

First, I would consider trying IFW tech support again.  I think you received a wrong answer the last time that you tried tech support but you might get lucky with a different person.

Second, there still may be members on this list who can offer a possible solution to assist you in installing Image for Windows.

I did do the 30 day trial. Ran into some problems.

Here is what happen. Now I can no longer try out the trial.

I installed it and realized I need to install the traditional option. Support at TeraByte told me I  could uninstall and reinstall. I did that and when I started the software it asked me to purchase, cancel. I used the Jaws cursor and found continued was unavailable. I told support that and was told to click on continue. I knew that wouldn’t work. I tried it any and it didn’t work. Told support and they have not gotten back to me. There has only been 1 day since the download. Not 30 days. Now what?

Hi,

You can download a 30-day trial version of Image for Windows (The TeraByte Unlimited :: TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite)  at the link below. 

To download, click on the link that says something like 30-day trial GUI.  Note, GUI stands for graphical user interface. 

https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

James B 

I, for one, would appreciate a bsic tutorial from installing the software to doing a system backup, which I gather automatically includes Narrator for restoring, is that correct?

Thanks,

No, it was quick and painless. I have unchecked the components I know I wont need. If there’s a need for such a tutorial,. I am more than happy to help

That was quick.  It took me forever to learn just enough to backup and recover my laptops.

As you become more acquainted with the complexities of IFW, maybe you will share what you have discovered.

Did you have any problems with the multitude of questions ask during installation?

Congratulations,

James B 

I actually like IFW and I gained understanding of the software just some minutes after starting to use it, so I can try and record a solution.

Greetings to Cihan Yazici  and list,

I sure wish that I had the skill and ability to create a tutorial or pod cast to assist others with using Image for Windows.  However, I do not.

IFW is extremely complicated for me.  Everything from installation of the software to its use under many varying circumstances make creating a useful tutorial or podcast beyond my communication and current PC skills.  I have tried to share as many tips as possible and  Hopefully, there are others who can share additional information so that new users of IFW or other backup options can learn how to do image backups of their computers.

Regards,

James B 

Hello friends;

I have reviewed the program you suggested.

I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many.

I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us?

I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least.

love to all of you.

----- Original Message -----

From: René H. Nielsen

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:28 PM

Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hi!

I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file.

 

Best regards René H. Nielsen

 

 

Fra: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> På vegne af Steve Matzura
Sendt: 3. maj 2020 19:15
Til: main@jfw.groups.io
Emne: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100% accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com

 

On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4 accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup. Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help. Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows install.

David Griffith

 

 

On 3 May 2020, at 17:44, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:



Tom,

If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later time.

Also, when you do this, you can delete two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of twice your RAM.

So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save 8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD, and windows will recreate those two files on boot-up.

They are just temp files Windows uses as virtual memory.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 11:31 AM

Subject: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hello.

 

I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use independently, and that works well with Jaws?

 

I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to back up my complete hard drive if possible.

 

Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m wrong.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Too obvious to be a mere coincidence...

If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at something being wrong with your hardware.

Application software has never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count viruses or malware as "application software.")

You are, however, giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and taking full system image backups on a routine cycle.  The number of things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous, and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways they shouldn't or drive failure.  Having a backup saves you untold time and grief.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

I hope that someone can point you to what you're looking for.  I'm just writing to say that I have never found such, and have always used trial and error with the JAWS dictionary to eventually land on the pronunciations I want for certain words.  And some of the replacements are, to put it mildly, not what I would have thought would work.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

Hi All

Does anyone know of accessible software to capture video of what’s  on the screen, while allowing the audio of my voice and JAWS to be heard. I like how Freedom Scientific does and I’d like to be able to do that for my own technology videos.

Thanks

Debbie

Thanks

Debbie

----- Original Message -----

From: Patrick Murphy

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 10:26 AM

Subject: Re: jaws with the brave explorer.

 

Hi,

 

i thought i would just throw this out there in case it helps someone.

i have just downloaded and installed the brave browser for the internet.

it is a verry slimmed down version of chrome or edge.

the one thing i liked about it, is that it allows you to proceed to web sites that are not recommended.

for example:

i have a nas storage device on my network, but it is that old, that the certificate is no longer valid.

even importing this certificate into my trusted route certifications store on my machine does not fix the problem.

both google chrome and chrome edge, just tell you that the site is bad, and thats all.

brave on the other hand, tells you that the site is bad, but gives you the option to proceed if you want.

obviously, given the fact that i know what this is, i want to proceed to it.

google chrome used to have a "proceed" button on it, as you will find if you search the net, but it has been removed in the latest version.

i also think, that brave is a lot nearer in interface to google chrome than it is to chrome edge.

yes, i have the latest version of both chrome browsers installed.

has anyone found a way to get to web sites that are invalid in either chrome edge or google chrome?

i would be interested to know how you did this, but for the moment, brave allows it.

pat

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Patrick Murphy

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 10:26 AM

Subject: Re: jaws with the brave explorer.

Hi,

 

i thought i would just throw this out there in case it helps someone.

i have just downloaded and installed the brave browser for the internet.

it is a verry slimmed down version of chrome or edge.

the one thing i liked about it, is that it allows you to proceed to web sites that are not recommended.

for example:

i have a nas storage device on my network, but it is that old, that the certificate is no longer valid.

even importing this certificate into my trusted route certifications store on my machine does not fix the problem.

both google chrome and chrome edge, just tell you that the site is bad, and thats all.

brave on the other hand, tells you that the site is bad, but gives you the option to proceed if you want.

obviously, given the fact that i know what this is, i want to proceed to it.

google chrome used to have a "proceed" button on it, as you will find if you search the net, but it has been removed in the latest version.

i also think, that brave is a lot nearer in interface to google chrome than it is to chrome edge.

yes, i have the latest version of both chrome browsers installed.

has anyone found a way to get to web sites that are invalid in either chrome edge or google chrome?

i would be interested to know how you did this, but for the moment, brave allows it.

pat