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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Gary King
 

The sales people at FS should tell you what version you need for a particular operating system. The online catalog does give you this information; I looked at it last night to make sure that my thinking about requirements was correct. I noticed that Windows 8 wasn't mentioned; someone isn't doing their job at FS updating the catalog.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


Yeah, and Freedom Scientific usually won't tell you that you need another license to run Windows pro versions until after you ask. Personally, I think it's a scam. Most other programs out there don't give a "BEEP" if you're using a pro version of windows or not. That's just not fair to the user. Considering the fact that the license is the only real difference. I know, the pro version works with more versions of Windows, but they do this on purpose. Not right!

Stewart
On 11/23/2013 7:32 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
Garry:

I wonder, when mike purchased his JAWS license, whether someone at FS inadvertantly gave him a Professional license instead of a standard license, because, in the JAWS ABout dialog window, It does not tell you whether you are using a Standard or Professional version of JAWS.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


Mike,
If you are running the standard version of JAWS with Pro versions of Windows, there is obviously a bug in the authorization scheme used by FS. I'm sure you have informed FS about this bug so that they can correct the problem and supply you with the proper version of JAWS. Of course, you will be charged a modest fee to upgrade to JAWS Pro plus the increased cost of an SMA. I'm sure you'll feel much better once you are paying through the nose like other JAWS Pro users!

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?



Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Gary King
 

Dave,
There doesn't appear to be an easy way to find out what type of license a JAWS user has. The license type isn't mentioned in the About box and doesn't appear on the sleeve that holds the DVD. The About box in my standard version of JAWS states that Remote Access is disabled, but I would bet that the same would be true for a Pro license if the user hadn't forked over the extra $200 to enable Remote Access.

Gary King
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


Garry:

I wonder, when mike purchased his JAWS license, whether someone at FS inadvertantly gave him a Professional license instead of a standard license, because, in the JAWS ABout dialog window, It does not tell you whether you are using a Standard or Professional version of JAWS.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@bellsouth.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


Mike,
If you are running the standard version of JAWS with Pro versions of Windows, there is obviously a bug in the authorization scheme used by FS. I'm sure you have informed FS about this bug so that they can correct the problem and supply you with the proper version of JAWS. Of course, you will be charged a modest fee to upgrade to JAWS Pro plus the increased cost of an SMA. I'm sure you'll feel much better once you are paying through the nose like other JAWS Pro users!

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?



Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

Marion

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Lee Maschmeyer
 

Another thing that is not widely known is that, according to a message from Ted Henter I read a few lifetimes ago, both he and Eric Damery had to mortgage their homes to keep the company going. Let's not get too snide, folks.

No, I don't remember what list and I'm sure somebody's going to pop up and say I'm wrong, but I'm not.

--

Lee Maschmeyer

"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."
--Lewis Carroll


Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

cecropia64
 

Yeah, and Freedom Scientific usually won't tell you that you need another license to run Windows pro versions until after you ask. Personally, I think it's a scam. Most other programs out there don't give a "BEEP" if you're using a pro version of windows or not. That's just not fair to the user. Considering the fact that the license is the only real difference. I know, the pro version works with more versions of Windows, but they do this on purpose. Not right!

Stewart

On 11/23/2013 7:32 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
Garry:

I wonder, when mike purchased his JAWS license, whether someone at FS inadvertantly gave him a Professional license instead of a standard license, because, in the JAWS ABout dialog window, It does not tell you whether you are using a Standard or Professional version of JAWS.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@bellsouth.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


Mike,
If you are running the standard version of JAWS with Pro versions of Windows, there is obviously a bug in the authorization scheme used by FS. I'm sure you have informed FS about this bug so that they can correct the problem and supply you with the proper version of JAWS. Of course, you will be charged a modest fee to upgrade to JAWS Pro plus the increased cost of an SMA. I'm sure you'll feel much better once you are paying through the nose like other JAWS Pro users!

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Boyd" <mikeboyd61@outlook.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?



Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

Marion

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

cecropia64
 

Unfortunately, here in the U.S., it doesn't work olike that. I sure wish it did though.

Stewart

On 11/23/2013 3:02 AM, Doris and Chris wrote:
Germany

Doris

At 10:58 PM 11/22/2013 -0500, you wrote:
Just curious, where are you located? Sounds like a real good deal since the price of the license for pro is much higher.

Stewart
On 11/22/2013 10:41 PM, Doris and Chris wrote:
This actually depends on the country you live in The last I heard, here the health insurance pays for private jaws and the pro license is given so that any operating system supported can be installed.

hth

Doris






At 08:56 PM 11/22/2013 -0500, you wrote:
Well, that's news to me because jaws 9 wouldn't run with windows xp pro. Freedom made me upgrade to a pro license in order to get it to run. Did I get screwed by them, maybe yes and maybe no.
On 11/22/2013 5:10 PM, Michael Boyd wrote:

Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

Marion

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Dave Durber
 

Mike:

Did you purchase your licensed copy of JAWS out of your own pocket or, did you get it through an agency or some other source which bought it for you?

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Boyd" <mikeboyd61@outlook.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?



Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

Marion

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Dave Durber
 

Garry:

I wonder, when mike purchased his JAWS license, whether someone at FS inadvertantly gave him a Professional license instead of a standard license, because, in the JAWS ABout dialog window, It does not tell you whether you are using a Standard or Professional version of JAWS.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@bellsouth.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


Mike,
If you are running the standard version of JAWS with Pro versions of Windows, there is obviously a bug in the authorization scheme used by FS. I'm sure you have informed FS about this bug so that they can correct the problem and supply you with the proper version of JAWS. Of course, you will be charged a modest fee to upgrade to JAWS Pro plus the increased cost of an SMA. I'm sure you'll feel much better once you are paying through the nose like other JAWS Pro users!

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Boyd" <mikeboyd61@outlook.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?



Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

Marion

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Doris and Chris
 

It is a good thing then, Ms. Angel, that I am not contributing to this as I have come to use nvda almost full time and never enjoyed the aforementioned blessing for things were different just a few years ago still with jaws basic available only for the "home" versions of windows just as in other parts of the world.

hth

Doris

At 05:41 AM 11/23/2013 -0500, you wrote:
That is one of the reasons for the high cost of both versions of Jaws for those who pay for it ourselves, and the lesser costs of other screen readers. Because, always there are rehabilitation agencies, or governments paying for the product. So, it doesn't matter to the providers what they charge. As long as someone with deep pockets is picking up the freight.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks@gmx.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


This actually depends on the country you live in The last I heard, here the health insurance pays for private jaws and the pro license is given so that any operating system supported can be installed.

hth

Doris






At 08:56 PM 11/22/2013 -0500, you wrote:
Well, that's news to me because jaws 9 wouldn't run with windows xp pro. Freedom made me upgrade to a pro license in order to get it to run. Did I get screwed by them, maybe yes and maybe no.
On 11/22/2013 5:10 PM, Michael Boyd wrote:

Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

Marion

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Angel
 

That is one of the reasons for the high cost of both versions of Jaws for those who pay for it ourselves, and the lesser costs of other screen readers. Because, always there are rehabilitation agencies, or governments paying for the product. So, it doesn't matter to the providers what they charge. As long as someone with deep pockets is picking up the freight.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks@gmx.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


This actually depends on the country you live in The last I heard, here the health insurance pays for private jaws and the pro license is given so that any operating system supported can be installed.

hth

Doris






At 08:56 PM 11/22/2013 -0500, you wrote:
Well, that's news to me because jaws 9 wouldn't run with windows xp pro. Freedom made me upgrade to a pro license in order to get it to run. Did I get screwed by them, maybe yes and maybe no.
On 11/22/2013 5:10 PM, Michael Boyd wrote:

Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

Marion

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Doris and Chris
 

Germany

Doris

At 10:58 PM 11/22/2013 -0500, you wrote:
Just curious, where are you located? Sounds like a real good deal since the price of the license for pro is much higher.

Stewart
On 11/22/2013 10:41 PM, Doris and Chris wrote:
This actually depends on the country you live in The last I heard, here the health insurance pays for private jaws and the pro license is given so that any operating system supported can be installed.

hth

Doris






At 08:56 PM 11/22/2013 -0500, you wrote:
Well, that's news to me because jaws 9 wouldn't run with windows xp pro. Freedom made me upgrade to a pro license in order to get it to run. Did I get screwed by them, maybe yes and maybe no.
On 11/22/2013 5:10 PM, Michael Boyd wrote:

Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

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Password protection for HD

John Chan <aznboyz4sho@...>
 

How do u create a password on a external if it does not a program already Have one installed? Anybody know any compatible software with Jaws that I can Install on it?

Sent from my iPhone


Re: importing stuff from one jaws pronounce dictionary to another

George B
 

Dave what are you talking about when you say hand writing in the email
below?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave
"Farfar" Carlson
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 20:52
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: importing stuff from one jaws pronounce dictionary to
another

Mike,

It's already working very well. BTW have you tried the handwriting
feature?
Write me off list if you want to talk more about that.

dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "mike mcglashon" <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: importing stuff from one jaws pronounce dictionary to
another


yes I was thank you very much.
And I'll try to keep your practice as much as I can with this.


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:20 AM, "Dave \"Farfar\" Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Mike, that's a lot better, and it gets better with practice. Were you
able
to find the .jdf files?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "mike mcglashon" <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: importing stuff from one jaws pronounce dictionary to
another




Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2013, at 1:05 AM, "Dave \"Farfar\" Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Mike,

I run out of breath when I read your iPhone messages. You must be
using
dictation.

okay.
Try this,
See if this works better,
The thing doesn't like me talking to it have to time it doesn't do
what I
tell her to.

A tip for readability: Say the words "full stop" when you want a
period.
Say
"comma" when you want a comma. Say "new line" when you want a line
break.

Just these three simple commands will make your messages much easier
to
read.

I do it all the time on the iPhone, and it works very well.
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Re: importing stuff from one jaws pronounce dictionary to another

Dave...
 

Mike,

It's already working very well. BTW have you tried the handwriting feature?
Write me off list if you want to talk more about that.

dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "mike mcglashon" <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: importing stuff from one jaws pronounce dictionary to another


yes I was thank you very much.
And I'll try to keep your practice as much as I can with this.


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:20 AM, "Dave \"Farfar\" Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Mike, that's a lot better, and it gets better with practice. Were you able
to find the .jdf files?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "mike mcglashon" <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: importing stuff from one jaws pronounce dictionary to another




Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2013, at 1:05 AM, "Dave \"Farfar\" Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Mike,

I run out of breath when I read your iPhone messages. You must be using
dictation.

okay.
Try this,
See if this works better,
The thing doesn't like me talking to it have to time it doesn't do what I
tell her to.

A tip for readability: Say the words "full stop" when you want a period.
Say
"comma" when you want a comma. Say "new line" when you want a line break.

Just these three simple commands will make your messages much easier to
read.

I do it all the time on the iPhone, and it works very well.
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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

cecropia64
 

Just curious, where are you located? Sounds like a real good deal since the price of the license for pro is much higher.

Stewart

On 11/22/2013 10:41 PM, Doris and Chris wrote:
This actually depends on the country you live in The last I heard, here the health insurance pays for private jaws and the pro license is given so that any operating system supported can be installed.

hth

Doris






At 08:56 PM 11/22/2013 -0500, you wrote:
Well, that's news to me because jaws 9 wouldn't run with windows xp pro. Freedom made me upgrade to a pro license in order to get it to run. Did I get screwed by them, maybe yes and maybe no.
On 11/22/2013 5:10 PM, Michael Boyd wrote:

Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

Marion

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Doris and Chris
 

This actually depends on the country you live in The last I heard, here the health insurance pays for private jaws and the pro license is given so that any operating system supported can be installed.

hth

Doris

At 08:56 PM 11/22/2013 -0500, you wrote:
Well, that's news to me because jaws 9 wouldn't run with windows xp pro. Freedom made me upgrade to a pro license in order to get it to run. Did I get screwed by them, maybe yes and maybe no.
On 11/22/2013 5:10 PM, Michael Boyd wrote:

Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

cecropia64
 

Let's hope that is the case because I kind of had sticker shock after this happened. I was ignorant enough to not realize that the only difference between the versions is the license. Freedom doesn't tell you this and they get you good. Oh well, now I'm prepared for just about anything. Especially since I just upgraded to jaws 15.0. Thanks for making me feel alittle better. I didn't think I was going nuts when that other guy said one didn't need pro to run under windows pro.

On 11/22/2013 9:23 PM, Gary King wrote:
I'm sure that most JAWS Pro users think they are suffering that particular indignity anyway. However, you said in your message that JAWS 9 Standard wouldn't run with XP Pro. Since this is the correct JAWS behavior, the authorization scheme was working properly at that time. If a bug has developed in the authorization that allows JAWS Standard to work with Pro versions of Windows, I'm sure that FS will squash it quickly. They love all that JAWS Pro money rolling in.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message ----- From: <cecropia64@att.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


Well, that's news to me because jaws 9 wouldn't run with windows xp pro. Freedom made me upgrade to a pro license in order to get it to run. Did I get screwed by them, maybe yes and maybe no.
On 11/22/2013 5:10 PM, Michael Boyd wrote:

Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

Marion

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Gary King
 

I'm sure that most JAWS Pro users think they are suffering that particular indignity anyway. However, you said in your message that JAWS 9 Standard wouldn't run with XP Pro. Since this is the correct JAWS behavior, the authorization scheme was working properly at that time. If a bug has developed in the authorization that allows JAWS Standard to work with Pro versions of Windows, I'm sure that FS will squash it quickly. They love all that JAWS Pro money rolling in.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?


Well, that's news to me because jaws 9 wouldn't run with windows xp pro. Freedom made me upgrade to a pro license in order to get it to run. Did I get screwed by them, maybe yes and maybe no.
On 11/22/2013 5:10 PM, Michael Boyd wrote:

Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

cecropia64
 

Well, that's news to me because jaws 9 wouldn't run with windows xp pro. Freedom made me upgrade to a pro license in order to get it to run. Did I get screwed by them, maybe yes and maybe no.

On 11/22/2013 5:10 PM, Michael Boyd wrote:

Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

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Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Gary King
 

Mike,
If you are running the standard version of JAWS with Pro versions of Windows, there is obviously a bug in the authorization scheme used by FS. I'm sure you have informed FS about this bug so that they can correct the problem and supply you with the proper version of JAWS. Of course, you will be charged a modest fee to upgrade to JAWS Pro plus the increased cost of an SMA. I'm sure you'll feel much better once you are paying through the nose like other JAWS Pro users!

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?



Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14 Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the home editions of windows with jaws basic.
On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I have at the moment?

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Re: MikeRE: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@...>
 

Ok. Who else can run JAWS 14 standard on Windows 7 Pro besides Mike? Need some more members so I can be sure it will work for me too.

----- Original Message -----
From: Marion Woods
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 6:25 PM
Subject: MikeRE: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?




Hi Mike,

Thanks for the information Mike, that's very interesting it confirms my suspicions. I wondered why Fs are supplying 32bit and 64bit versions of Jaws. I realise now that Windows7PRO loads 2 versions of the operating systems 32bit and 64bit, and it will run either , after all most modern PC's have 64bit processors, and unless you are interested in running Hi definition
graphics or like gaming, I cant take advantage of the 64bit processing.

I imagine there must be another reason that FS supply PRO versions of the software,

Marion

,
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?



Sorry, but I have ran the standard versions of JAWS with Windows 7 Pro Since
Windows 7 came out, and I now am running Windows 8.1 Pro with JAWS 14
Standard. It works great.

HTH,
Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:56 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: With Win7 pro do I need a pro version of JFW ?

> No, you're going to have to upgrade to jaws pro. Sorry, but I had the
> same issue. You can run anything with jaws pro but you can only run the
> home editions of windows with jaws basic.
> On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Marion Woods wrote:
>> Hi all have been offered a new PC with Win7 Pro installed, do I need to
>> use a Pro version of the JFW13 or can I use the standard version that I
>> have at the moment?
>>
>> Marion
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