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Re: Spaces and checking format

judith bron
 

Since I do a lot of spell checking, I found that Jaws does recognize some
homonyms by pointing out that you used the wrong word in a sentence. This
started in my situation with jaws 14 and word 2010. In one situation I
recall I used the word "to" with one O rather than the correct word "too"
with 2 o's and the spell check picked up on it. There are lots of other
homonyms so I can't tell you if this is universal.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

Lee Anne Atkinson
 

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: problems with office 2013 and jaws

Philip Hall <p.hall.eml1@...>
 

Interesting. I don't, and my student doesn't either.
When I called the Microsoft accessibility line, they told me that that
feature had been taken out for security reasons.
Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:34 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: problems with office 2013 and jaws

Looking at my outlook 2013, I have the suggested contacts folder in my
folders list.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Philip Hall
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 5:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: problems with office 2013 and jaws

Hi.

Thanks for everyone's responses to my query.

It looks as if freedom has a number of bugs to fix.

One thing I did learn however after a lot of internet searching, and
testing,.

When attempting to add a contact from within an open message, Microsoft has
changed the way it works in outlook 2013.

For one thing, the contact cannot already exist. I suppose this makes sense.

Also, Microsoft has removed the ability to automatically add contacts from
received emails. They have also removed the suggested contacts folder.



Again, thanks for verifying that most of the problems that I mentioned, are
jaws bugs.

I submitted jaws 15 bug reports for the problems.



Phil



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Spaces and checking format

Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...>
 

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is
a JAWS function. It can find unintended font changes, stray
punctuation, and runs of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two
spaces is correct following a period. For some, two spaces are
required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two
spaces after a period a "run of spaces." Since many court style
rules require two spaces, I found this annoying. I suggested
(probably along with others) that Text Analyzer get an adjustment
so that one could select preferences based on one's own situation,
i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text
Analyzer considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will
not report it as a "run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is
appropriate after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one
could identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in
place of vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is
say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary
King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go
through the Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It
doesn't seem very efficient to me to get screen reader training
one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: problems with office 2013 and jaws

Louise Johnson <herclouise@...>
 

Hi I do believe that jaws is some of the problems but office 13 format has
change and things you could do in older versions don't work in in office
13. The learning kerb is different and sometimes I do old things and they
don't work. So I have to find ways around it From Louise and Hawk

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Philip Hall
Sent: October 7, 2013 5:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: problems with office 2013 and jaws

Hi.

Thanks for everyone's responses to my query.

It looks as if freedom has a number of bugs to fix.

One thing I did learn however after a lot of internet searching, and
testing,.

When attempting to add a contact from within an open message, Microsoft has
changed the way it works in outlook 2013.

For one thing, the contact cannot already exist. I suppose this makes sense.

Also, Microsoft has removed the ability to automatically add contacts from
received emails. They have also removed the suggested contacts folder.



Again, thanks for verifying that most of the problems that I mentioned, are
jaws bugs.

I submitted jaws 15 bug reports for the problems.



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Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Louise Johnson <herclouise@...>
 

Hi there I understand jaws 15 is going under beta testing there is people
testing as we speak. I heard later this fall it would be out check there
web site and see if there is a release date. I will be doing that myself
soon. From Louise and Hawk that

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane clark
Sent: October 7, 2013 11:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hi, any word on when 15 is coming out?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Louise Johnson" <herclouise@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hi I use windows eight and Jaws 14 and bbeen told to wait for 15 to
help with some of the little things that I find I cannot do. Now I do
use outlook word 13 and with some of the changes in it there needs
jaws 15 and I have heard that some of the problems have been fixed but
I will have to wait and see. I went from xp to windows eight and I did
have a learning kerv.
From Louise and Hawk
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane
clark
Sent: October 7, 2013 5:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hi all,
I meant to say that the laptop was a Toshiba not an HP... Anyway,
should I wait for Jaws 15, or get Jaws 14? And either way, will there
be a free upgrade, or will I have to pay, and if so, how much?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:25 PM, "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi,

I find I can do what I absolutely need to do though it can be more
challenging than it should be. I use Jaws 14 & Windows 8. I'm sorry I
didn't spend the extra money for an Apple because soon I'll have to
put out for Jaws 15 and so on.

Good luck, but you will first need to go up to Jaws 14 or wait till
Jaws 15 is out so you don't have to pay that extra upgrade fee.

It's the last PC laptop I buy.

Sincerely,

Lauren

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane
clark
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:42 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hello all,
My wife and I just bought a Windows 8 HP laptop, and I was wondering
how accessible Jaws 11 was with Windows 8? I've kinda been away from
the Windows and Jaws for awhile, only using them here lately on occasion.
A friend and I were thinking about upgrading to Jaws 14 or 15, I
think I heard it was coming out soon?
Any assistance on all of this would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks, Shane. Sent from my iPhone
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Re: checking format

Louise Johnson <herclouise@...>
 

Hi I am a new user with Jaws and I enjoy learning that I don't know it all.
I find out daily there is a lot more to jaws and computers. From Louise and
hawk

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: October 7, 2013 11:01 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion. If the list
moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs. To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS key+6 on the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it, you will be
posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you download it? Is
it
very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine is the last
computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see it, I give the
document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two or more
spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose quote,
indenting,
open parens without a close, font and attribute changes, and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes to
spacing
in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete novel on my new
computer
yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or term
papers,
but being clued into your screen reader and hearing prolonged pauses and
shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a few extra
spaces between words but spell check did not show the spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing but I could
see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: problems with office 2013 and jaws

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Looking at my outlook 2013, I have the suggested contacts folder in my
folders list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Philip Hall
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 5:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: problems with office 2013 and jaws

Hi.

Thanks for everyone's responses to my query.

It looks as if freedom has a number of bugs to fix.

One thing I did learn however after a lot of internet searching, and
testing,.

When attempting to add a contact from within an open message, Microsoft has
changed the way it works in outlook 2013.

For one thing, the contact cannot already exist. I suppose this makes sense.

Also, Microsoft has removed the ability to automatically add contacts from
received emails. They have also removed the suggested contacts folder.



Again, thanks for verifying that most of the problems that I mentioned, are
jaws bugs.

I submitted jaws 15 bug reports for the problems.



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problems with office 2013 and jaws

Philip Hall <p.hall.eml1@...>
 

Hi.

Thanks for everyone's responses to my query.

It looks as if freedom has a number of bugs to fix.

One thing I did learn however after a lot of internet searching, and
testing,.

When attempting to add a contact from within an open message, Microsoft has
changed the way it works in outlook 2013.

For one thing, the contact cannot already exist. I suppose this makes sense.

Also, Microsoft has removed the ability to automatically add contacts from
received emails. They have also removed the suggested contacts folder.



Again, thanks for verifying that most of the problems that I mentioned, are
jaws bugs.

I submitted jaws 15 bug reports for the problems.



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Re: checking format

Charles Coe
 

Judith,

There are training tutorials on line for all Micro Soft applications such as
Win 7-8, MSWord, MS Excel, etc.; at the following web site
www.blindtraining.com

You can do them on line or order tutorials via mail or over the internet by
download.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

I appreciate and respect your viewpoint Gary. I'll be the first to admit
that what I need is a complete training on jaws, windows and all the
programs I use. The problem is none of those things exist in my area. I'm
trying like heck to do something professionally, get a book out and learn
all I need to learn to accomplish these things. I wish I had a course to go
to to learn what I need! So for now I'll ask questions, but I'll try not to
make them redundant or that idiotic. Best, Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

Judith,
I wasn't referring to you specifically in my message. I have been on this
list for a number of years and have noticed throughout that time that many
of the questions asked were covered in the JAWS Basic Training modules. As
someone who once did assistive technology training, I expressed my opinion
that asking questions on an email list is not the best way to learn the
basics. An email list is a good place to supplement this training though
and go beyond it.

It would be good if everyone who needs to learn about their assistive
technology could go to a technology center for a formal course of training,
but unfortunately this is not possible. If you have to learn to use your
computer and assistive technology on your own, going through the available
training materials as many times as necessary and exploring the relevant
JAWS menus and dialogs while listening to the training is your best
alternative to formal training.

Gary King, Rehabilitation Engineer, Retired w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@optonline.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: checking format


This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in
place of vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion. If
the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary
King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through
the Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very
efficient to me to get screen reader training one question at a time
on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs. To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS key+6
on the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it, you
will be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the spaces as
a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: checking format

Dave...
 

Judith,

Have you looked at the Freedom Scientific web site in their training
section? They have webinars on several topics and many are free.

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@optonline.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:58 PM
Subject: RE: checking format


I appreciate and respect your viewpoint Gary. I'll be the first to admit
that what I need is a complete training on jaws, windows and all the
programs I use. The problem is none of those things exist in my area. I'm
trying like heck to do something professionally, get a book out and learn
all I need to learn to accomplish these things. I wish I had a course to go
to to learn what I need! So for now I'll ask questions, but I'll try not to
make them redundant or that idiotic. Best, Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

Judith,
I wasn't referring to you specifically in my message. I have been on this
list for a number of years and have noticed throughout that time that many
of the questions asked were covered in the JAWS Basic Training modules. As
someone who once did assistive technology training, I expressed my opinion
that asking questions on an email list is not the best way to learn the
basics. An email list is a good place to supplement this training though
and go beyond it.

It would be good if everyone who needs to learn about their assistive
technology could go to a technology center for a formal course of training,
but unfortunately this is not possible. If you have to learn to use your
computer and assistive technology on your own, going through the available
training materials as many times as necessary and exploring the relevant
JAWS menus and dialogs while listening to the training is your best
alternative to formal training.

Gary King, Rehabilitation Engineer, Retired w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@optonline.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: checking format


This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion. If the list
moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very
efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email
list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs. To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it, you will be
posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you download it? Is
it
very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine is the
last
computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see it, I give the
document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two or more
spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose quote,
indenting,
open parens without a close, font and attribute changes, and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes to
spacing
in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete novel on my new
computer
yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or term
papers,
but being clued into your screen reader and hearing prolonged pauses and
shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a few extra
spaces between words but spell check did not show the spaces as a
problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing but I
could
see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: checking format

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Have you googled over the phone/online training using jaws, or something to
that affect?

There are quite afew resources out there that supply that type of service.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 12:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

I appreciate and respect your viewpoint Gary. I'll be the first to admit
that what I need is a complete training on jaws, windows and all the
programs I use. The problem is none of those things exist in my area. I'm
trying like heck to do something professionally, get a book out and learn
all I need to learn to accomplish these things. I wish I had a course to go
to to learn what I need! So for now I'll ask questions, but I'll try not to
make them redundant or that idiotic. Best, Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

Judith,
I wasn't referring to you specifically in my message. I have been on this
list for a number of years and have noticed throughout that time that many
of the questions asked were covered in the JAWS Basic Training modules. As
someone who once did assistive technology training, I expressed my opinion
that asking questions on an email list is not the best way to learn the
basics. An email list is a good place to supplement this training though
and go beyond it.

It would be good if everyone who needs to learn about their assistive
technology could go to a technology center for a formal course of training,
but unfortunately this is not possible. If you have to learn to use your
computer and assistive technology on your own, going through the available
training materials as many times as necessary and exploring the relevant
JAWS menus and dialogs while listening to the training is your best
alternative to formal training.

Gary King, Rehabilitation Engineer, Retired w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@optonline.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: checking format


This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in
place of vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion. If
the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary
King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through
the Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very
efficient to me to get screen reader training one question at a time
on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs. To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS key+6
on the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it, you
will be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the spaces as
a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: checking format

Dave...
 

Judith,

Nothing wrong with asking questions, but on any list you will find that your
helpers will begin to tire of answering questions that you really should be
learning for yourself by doing your own reading and research first.

As Gary points out, getting answers piecemeal through incremental questions
takes a long time, requires filtering of misinformation, and loads up the
list with messages that most will not benefit from.

As they say, "Don't get your knickers in a knot, young lady."

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@optonline.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion. If the list
moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs. To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS key+6 on the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it, you will be
posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you download it? Is
it
very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine is the last
computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see it, I give the
document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two or more
spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose quote,
indenting,
open parens without a close, font and attribute changes, and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes to
spacing
in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete novel on my new
computer
yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or term
papers,
but being clued into your screen reader and hearing prolonged pauses and
shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a few extra
spaces between words but spell check did not show the spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing but I could
see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: checking format

judith bron
 

I appreciate and respect your viewpoint Gary. I'll be the first to admit
that what I need is a complete training on jaws, windows and all the
programs I use. The problem is none of those things exist in my area. I'm
trying like heck to do something professionally, get a book out and learn
all I need to learn to accomplish these things. I wish I had a course to go
to to learn what I need! So for now I'll ask questions, but I'll try not to
make them redundant or that idiotic. Best, Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

Judith,
I wasn't referring to you specifically in my message. I have been on this
list for a number of years and have noticed throughout that time that many
of the questions asked were covered in the JAWS Basic Training modules. As
someone who once did assistive technology training, I expressed my opinion
that asking questions on an email list is not the best way to learn the
basics. An email list is a good place to supplement this training though
and go beyond it.

It would be good if everyone who needs to learn about their assistive
technology could go to a technology center for a formal course of training,
but unfortunately this is not possible. If you have to learn to use your
computer and assistive technology on your own, going through the available
training materials as many times as necessary and exploring the relevant
JAWS menus and dialogs while listening to the training is your best
alternative to formal training.

Gary King, Rehabilitation Engineer, Retired w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@optonline.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: checking format


This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion. If the list
moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very
efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email
list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs. To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it, you will be
posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you download it? Is
it
very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine is the
last
computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see it, I give the
document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two or more
spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose quote,
indenting,
open parens without a close, font and attribute changes, and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes to
spacing
in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete novel on my new
computer
yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or term
papers,
but being clued into your screen reader and hearing prolonged pauses and
shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a few extra
spaces between words but spell check did not show the spaces as a
problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing but I
could
see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: checking format

Gary King
 

Judith,
I wasn't referring to you specifically in my message. I have been on this list for a number of years and have noticed throughout that time that many of the questions asked were covered in the JAWS Basic Training modules. As someone who once did assistive technology training, I expressed my opinion that asking questions on an email list is not the best way to learn the basics. An email list is a good place to supplement this training though and go beyond it.

It would be good if everyone who needs to learn about their assistive technology could go to a technology center for a formal course of training, but unfortunately this is not possible. If you have to learn to use your computer and assistive technology on your own, going through the available training materials as many times as necessary and exploring the relevant JAWS menus and dialogs while listening to the training is your best alternative to formal training.

Gary King, Rehabilitation Engineer, Retired
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@optonline.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: checking format


This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion. If the list
moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs. To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS key+6 on the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it, you will be
posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you download it? Is
it
very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine is the last
computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see it, I give the
document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two or more
spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose quote,
indenting,
open parens without a close, font and attribute changes, and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes to
spacing
in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete novel on my new
computer
yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or term
papers,
but being clued into your screen reader and hearing prolonged pauses and
shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a few extra
spaces between words but spell check did not show the spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing but I could
see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I think at the end of oct...?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane clark
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 11:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hi, any word on when 15 is coming out?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Louise Johnson" <herclouise@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hi I use windows eight and Jaws 14 and bbeen told to wait for 15 to
help with some of the little things that I find I cannot do. Now I do
use outlook word 13 and with some of the changes in it there needs
jaws 15 and I have heard that some of the problems have been fixed but
I will have to wait and see. I went from xp to windows eight and I did
have a learning kerv.
From Louise and Hawk
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane
clark
Sent: October 7, 2013 5:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hi all,
I meant to say that the laptop was a Toshiba not an HP... Anyway,
should I wait for Jaws 15, or get Jaws 14? And either way, will there
be a free upgrade, or will I have to pay, and if so, how much?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:25 PM, "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi,

I find I can do what I absolutely need to do though it can be more
challenging than it should be. I use Jaws 14 & Windows 8. I'm sorry I
didn't spend the extra money for an Apple because soon I'll have to
put out for Jaws 15 and so on.

Good luck, but you will first need to go up to Jaws 14 or wait till
Jaws 15 is out so you don't have to pay that extra upgrade fee.

It's the last PC laptop I buy.

Sincerely,

Lauren

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane
clark
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:42 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hello all,
My wife and I just bought a Windows 8 HP laptop, and I was wondering
how accessible Jaws 11 was with Windows 8? I've kinda been away from
the Windows and Jaws for awhile, only using them here lately on occasion.
A friend and I were thinking about upgrading to Jaws 14 or 15, I
think I heard it was coming out soon?
Any assistance on all of this would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks, Shane. Sent from my iPhone
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Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Shane clark
 

Hi, any word on when 15 is coming out?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Louise Johnson" <herclouise@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hi I use windows eight and Jaws 14 and bbeen told to wait for 15 to help
with some of the little things that I find I cannot do. Now I do use
outlook word 13 and with some of the changes in it there needs jaws 15 and I
have heard that some of the problems have been fixed but I will have to wait
and see. I went from xp to windows eight and I did have a learning kerv.
From Louise and Hawk
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane clark
Sent: October 7, 2013 5:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hi all,
I meant to say that the laptop was a Toshiba not an HP... Anyway, should I
wait for Jaws 15, or get Jaws 14? And either way, will there be a free
upgrade, or will I have to pay, and if so, how much?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:25 PM, "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi,

I find I can do what I absolutely need to do though it can be more
challenging than it should be. I use Jaws 14 & Windows 8. I'm sorry I
didn't spend the extra money for an Apple because soon I'll have to
put out for Jaws 15 and so on.

Good luck, but you will first need to go up to Jaws 14 or wait till
Jaws 15 is out so you don't have to pay that extra upgrade fee.

It's the last PC laptop I buy.

Sincerely,

Lauren

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane
clark
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:42 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hello all,
My wife and I just bought a Windows 8 HP laptop, and I was wondering
how accessible Jaws 11 was with Windows 8? I've kinda been away from
the Windows and Jaws for awhile, only using them here lately on occasion.
A friend and I were thinking about upgrading to Jaws 14 or 15, I think
I heard it was coming out soon?
Any assistance on all of this would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks, Shane. Sent from my iPhone
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Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Charles Coe
 

You can try JAWS version 15 in beta mode to see if it will correct the
problems you are having.


Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Louise Johnson
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hi I use windows eight and Jaws 14 and bbeen told to wait for 15 to help
with some of the little things that I find I cannot do. Now I do use
outlook word 13 and with some of the changes in it there needs jaws 15 and I
have heard that some of the problems have been fixed but I will have to wait
and see. I went from xp to windows eight and I did have a learning kerv.
From Louise and Hawk
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane clark
Sent: October 7, 2013 5:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hi all,
I meant to say that the laptop was a Toshiba not an HP... Anyway, should I
wait for Jaws 15, or get Jaws 14? And either way, will there be a free
upgrade, or will I have to pay, and if so, how much?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:25 PM, "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi,

I find I can do what I absolutely need to do though it can be more
challenging than it should be. I use Jaws 14 & Windows 8. I'm sorry I
didn't spend the extra money for an Apple because soon I'll have to
put out for Jaws 15 and so on.

Good luck, but you will first need to go up to Jaws 14 or wait till
Jaws 15 is out so you don't have to pay that extra upgrade fee.

It's the last PC laptop I buy.

Sincerely,

Lauren

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane
clark
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:42 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hello all,
My wife and I just bought a Windows 8 HP laptop, and I was wondering
how accessible Jaws 11 was with Windows 8? I've kinda been away from
the Windows and Jaws for awhile, only using them here lately on occasion.
A friend and I were thinking about upgrading to Jaws 14 or 15, I think
I heard it was coming out soon?
Any assistance on all of this would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks, Shane. Sent from my iPhone
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Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Louise Johnson <herclouise@...>
 

Hi I use windows eight and Jaws 14 and bbeen told to wait for 15 to help
with some of the little things that I find I cannot do. Now I do use
outlook word 13 and with some of the changes in it there needs jaws 15 and I
have heard that some of the problems have been fixed but I will have to wait
and see. I went from xp to windows eight and I did have a learning kerv.
From Louise and Hawk
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane clark
Sent: October 7, 2013 5:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hi all,
I meant to say that the laptop was a Toshiba not an HP... Anyway, should I
wait for Jaws 15, or get Jaws 14? And either way, will there be a free
upgrade, or will I have to pay, and if so, how much?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:25 PM, "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi,

I find I can do what I absolutely need to do though it can be more
challenging than it should be. I use Jaws 14 & Windows 8. I'm sorry I
didn't spend the extra money for an Apple because soon I'll have to
put out for Jaws 15 and so on.

Good luck, but you will first need to go up to Jaws 14 or wait till
Jaws 15 is out so you don't have to pay that extra upgrade fee.

It's the last PC laptop I buy.

Sincerely,

Lauren

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane
clark
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:42 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: New windows 8 laptop and Jaws

Hello all,
My wife and I just bought a Windows 8 HP laptop, and I was wondering
how accessible Jaws 11 was with Windows 8? I've kinda been away from
the Windows and Jaws for awhile, only using them here lately on occasion.
A friend and I were thinking about upgrading to Jaws 14 or 15, I think
I heard it was coming out soon?
Any assistance on all of this would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks, Shane. Sent from my iPhone
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Re: checking format

judith bron
 

I did listen to the training materials I downloaded. The problem is my
forte is not technology so I'm a little slower than most on grasping some of
it. Like you I'm more than willing to share what I've already mastered and
benefit from the knowledge of others. From what I know about support lists
this topic just overstepped the bounds of off topic. You had your say, I
had mine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 2:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

No, Judith, this is unfair. Everyone who posts suggestions on this list
wants to help. However, it's frustrating when questions keep being asked
that show a failure to study readily available training materials. In fact,
several of us have directed you to those materials, and you indicated you
had figured out how to access them. Aside from saving clutter on this list,
you'd feel a lot happier about your technology capability if you grounded
yourself in basic JAWS. That still leaves lots of JAWS questions to ask.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 2:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion. If the list
moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs. To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it, you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the spaces as a
problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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