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Cy Selfridge
 

Hi,

I hate to have to ask but, how do you get to the text analyzer?

I was sure I had save the email with the answer but, who knows where.
(LOLLOL)

Cy

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Re: Office 2010 and converting table to tex

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

It is the same from 2013 and 2010, I just finished doing such a thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 11:17 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Office 2010 and converting table to tex

If it works the same way as 2010,

While in the table, press alt+j, then l, then v. You will be asked what you
want as a separator--comma, hyphen, etc. Answer that, whack enter, and your
table is text.
At 10:29 AM 10/8/2013, you wrote:
How do you convert a table to text in office 2010?
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Re: Spaces and checking format

Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...>
 

I would be interested in learning how you use your custom dictionary. I used to have one with a different screen reader, but using JF W and custom dictionaries is a little more challenging.
I have no idea whether Freedom Scientific will include a dictionary concept two it's Text Analyzer.
It took two years to get a fix

For the spacing in Text Analyzer, and then it was only half what I wanted. Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 8, 2013, at 7:03 AM, "Lee Anne Atkinson" <lee.atkinson@att.net> wrote:

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Office 2010 and converting table to tex

Ann Byrne
 

If it works the same way as 2010,

While in the table, press alt+j, then l, then v. You will be asked what you want as a separator--comma, hyphen, etc. Answer that, whack enter, and your table is text.

At 10:29 AM 10/8/2013, you wrote:
How do you convert a table to text in office 2010?
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Re: Spaces and checking format

Adrian Spratt
 

Well said.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I'll buy that; probably one of the reasons I don't use it. It's probably a neat thing, but I wish it had somewhat more granular control.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

Ted, isn't this the behavior of Text Analyzer? It sounds as though Judith has it set on one of her systems.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces, I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a "run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

Adrian Spratt
 

Cy,

I didn't use grammar check until Word 2010, and my initial reaction was the same as yours. However, as I posted earlier, it does help me find homonym and other spelling mistakes that spell-checker doesn't pick up. With that benefit in mind, one nice feature of grammar check is that you can tell it to ignore certain kinds of what it deems errors. For example, whenever it sees a comma followed by the word "then," it demands that you add the word "and." To my mind, "and" isn't always necessary in that context. Instead of caving in, I tab to the option to ignore all similar errors. It then concedes the point for the rest of the document.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

Hi,
Okay, I saw the grammar check once when I hit the alt key but could not find
it again.
Next I misspelled a word and hit F7.
When the misspelled word came up Ihit tab to get to the choices and hit tab
until I saw "check Grammar" which was unchecked.
I suppose if one checked this option it would then check the grammar?
I ain't gonna try it as I really don't want to mess with the mess it *might*
create.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:14 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I just went into the spell check to see if I have check spelling and grammer
as you type checked but couldn't even find the option. I would like to
enable it and maybe find a way to get the feature where I hear the errors
working again. Where do you look for that option? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

It's more than likely. Just about any business app these days has a spell
checker; even Excel--which makes sense, given how common text fields are in
spreadsheets. I have to say, though, I've never experienced the behavior
you describe. That may be because I use Advanced mode for most things, so
JAWS isn't all that chatty, unless I request something. Do you have Word
checking spelling and grammar as you type?> That might do it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

Could it have been word and spoken by jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of
the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check
capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

Cy Selfridge
 

Hi,
Okay, I saw the grammar check once when I hit the alt key but could not find
it again.
Next I misspelled a word and hit F7.
When the misspelled word came up Ihit tab to get to the choices and hit tab
until I saw "check Grammar" which was unchecked.
I suppose if one checked this option it would then check the grammar?
I ain't gonna try it as I really don't want to mess with the mess it *might*
create.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:14 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I just went into the spell check to see if I have check spelling and grammer
as you type checked but couldn't even find the option. I would like to
enable it and maybe find a way to get the feature where I hear the errors
working again. Where do you look for that option? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

It's more than likely. Just about any business app these days has a spell
checker; even Excel--which makes sense, given how common text fields are in
spreadsheets. I have to say, though, I've never experienced the behavior
you describe. That may be because I use Advanced mode for most things, so
JAWS isn't all that chatty, unless I request something. Do you have Word
checking spelling and grammar as you type?> That might do it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

Could it have been word and spoken by jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of
the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check
capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
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Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

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Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
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Re: Spaces and checking format

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I'll buy that; probably one of the reasons I don't use it. It's probably a neat thing, but I wish it had somewhat more granular control.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

Ted, isn't this the behavior of Text Analyzer? It sounds as though Judith has it set on one of her systems.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces, I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a "run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

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Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
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Re: Spaces and checking format

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Using the ribbon, look under Review.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I just went into the spell check to see if I have check spelling and grammer
as you type checked but couldn't even find the option. I would like to
enable it and maybe find a way to get the feature where I hear the errors
working again. Where do you look for that option? Judith

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

It's more than likely. Just about any business app these days has a spell
checker; even Excel--which makes sense, given how common text fields are in
spreadsheets. I have to say, though, I've never experienced the behavior
you describe. That may be because I use Advanced mode for most things, so
JAWS isn't all that chatty, unless I request something. Do you have Word
checking spelling and grammar as you type?> That might do it.

Ted

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Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

Could it have been word and spoken by jaws?

-----Original Message-----
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(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of
the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check
capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

Cy Selfridge
 

I have not tried the grammar checker in Office 2007 but in Office 2003 if
you wanted your sentences completely garbled just let Word help you out.
(LOLLOLLOLLOL)
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

It's more than likely. Just about any business app these days has a spell
checker; even Excel--which makes sense, given how common text fields are in
spreadsheets. I have to say, though, I've never experienced the behavior
you describe. That may be because I use Advanced mode for most things, so
JAWS isn't all that chatty, unless I request something. Do you have Word
checking spelling and grammar as you type?> That might do it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

Could it have been word and spoken by jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of
the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check
capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

Adrian Spratt
 

Ted, isn't this the behavior of Text Analyzer? It sounds as though Judith has it set on one of her systems.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

judith bron
 

I just went into the spell check to see if I have check spelling and grammer
as you type checked but couldn't even find the option. I would like to
enable it and maybe find a way to get the feature where I hear the errors
working again. Where do you look for that option? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

It's more than likely. Just about any business app these days has a spell
checker; even Excel--which makes sense, given how common text fields are in
spreadsheets. I have to say, though, I've never experienced the behavior
you describe. That may be because I use Advanced mode for most things, so
JAWS isn't all that chatty, unless I request something. Do you have Word
checking spelling and grammar as you type?> That might do it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

Could it have been word and spoken by jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of
the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check
capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

It's more than likely. Just about any business app these days has a spell checker; even Excel--which makes sense, given how common text fields are in spreadsheets. I have to say, though, I've never experienced the behavior you describe. That may be because I use Advanced mode for most things, so JAWS isn't all that chatty, unless I request something. Do you have Word checking spelling and grammar as you type?> That might do it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

Could it have been word and spoken by jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of
the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check
capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

judith bron
 

Could it have been word and spoken by jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of
the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check
capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Office 2010 and converting table to tex

Brian and Denise Albriton <autoharp@...>
 

How do you convert a table to text in office 2010?
Brian


Re: Spaces and checking format

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That doesn't really sound like JAWS; are you sure it wasn't a function of the word processor or other app you were working in JAWS has no spell check capability, and wouldn't know a misspelling from a hole in the ground.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

judith bron
 

On one of my computers I had it set so that if I read a document back line
by line at the end of the line jaws would tell me how many spelling errors
were on that line. When I could reach the end of the document without
hearing jaws once tell me that something was wrong I felt like throwing a
party! Anyways, does anyone know how to set jaws to announce spelling and
grammer errors? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on
me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to
keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an
adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I had to think about that one a minute, looks like I guessed wrong. Boo on me, and thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces, I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a "run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

Adrian Spratt
 

If you turn on grammar check, MS word will detect such errors. I used to keep grammar check off, but in this way it functions like a spell-checker.

For the record, regarding another post, "too," with a double "o," is an adverb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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Re: Spaces and checking format

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That is a good idea; after all, Everyone has off days. JAWS usually exhibits subtle differences in pronunciation between too (also) and to (the preposition), when they occur in a sentence. Overall, anyone past the 5th grade who regularly confuses the number two with the adjective too probably needs more help than JAWS can provide, but, as I said, we all have off days.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Spaces and checking format

I like the idea of an advanced setting for homophone recognition. As it
currently stands, I have created an extensive custom dictionary with
sounds to point these out. I am always on the lookout for words to add to
this.

Good suggestion! Do you think they will work on it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Spaces and checking format

Sorry I've been away. As some have pointed out, Text Analyzer is a JAWS
function. It can find unintended font changes, stray punctuation, and runs
of spaces (This is a high level summary).
Someone asked specifically about runs of spaces.
I don't want to start another debate over whether one or two spaces is
correct following a period. For some, two spaces are required.
For versions of JAWS through 13, Text Analyzer considered two spaces after a
period a "run of spaces." Since many court style rules require two spaces,
I found this annoying. I suggested (probably along with others) that Text
Analyzer get an adjustment so that one could select preferences based on
one's own situation, i.e., choose whether to use one or two spaces after a
period.
Well, half a wish is better than nothing. Now, in JAWS 14, Text Analyzer
considers two spaces after a period appropriate and will not report it as a
"run of spaces."
That suits me personally, but for those who believe one space is appropriate
after a period, JAWS won't report it.
BTW,
My other suggestion to Freedom Scientific was to include a homonym
recognition function so that, without spelling too many words, one could
identify homonyms such as "two," "to," and "too".
That would be useful for those who use Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Well, I'm still waiting for that one.
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

This is perhaps the nicest way I've heard alternate words used in place of
vulgarity. Did anyone ask for your imperious opinion.
If the list moderator wants me off this list all he has to do is say so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checking format

It looks like some folks don't bother to take the time to go through the
Basic Training that is available with JAWS. It doesn't seem very efficient
to me to get screen reader training one question at a time on an email list.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: checking format


Judith,

I believe you succeeded in locating the JAWS training programs.
To
understand the service center, you should look at the relevant
one,
perhaps a basic training one. In addition, I think there is one
specifically on the text analyzer.

For the record, you reach the service center by pressing JAWS
key+6 on
the
number row above the letters. But if you don't read about it,
you will
be posting many more basic questions here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

Where do you find settings center? I went to jaws with insert J
and
couldn't find it in any of the options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: checking format

It's part of JAWS, check under Settings Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

How do you get Text Analyzer? Is it software or can you
download it?
Is it very compatible with jaws? Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checking format

All:
I'm a little late to this thread, but for documents where mine
is the
last computer to touch it (e.g., my sighted secretary won't see
it, I
give the document a once through with Text Analyzer.
Text Analyzer picks up runs of spaces, i.e., where there are two
or
more spaces (except after periods), open quotes without a lose
quote,
indenting, open parens without a close, font and attribute
changes,
and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Judith
Bron
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: checkig format

Unfortunately sometimes Jaws is not that sensitive when it comes
to
spacing in manuscripts. I haven't spell checked a complete
novel on
my new computer yet, but I hope jaws 14 can pick up the spacing
problems that XP did.
Formatting can be a problem with documents such as articles or
term
papers, but being clued into your screen reader and hearing
prolonged
pauses and shorter lines is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

HI there I just did an experiment and typed a sentence with a
few
extra spaces between words but spell check did not show the
spaces as a problem.
I had typed a document and jaws did not indicate wrong spacing
but I
could see it with my braille display.
I just could not fix it for some reason.
Lovette

On 2013-10-06, at 5:52 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

The spell check points out extra spaces in a document. What
kind of
funny spacing are you talking about?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lovette
Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Hi there. This worked but is there some way of knowing if you
have
some funny spacing in your document?
FOr the sighted apparently there is a icon to tell you of this.

On 2013-10-06, at 5:14 PM, Judith Bron wrote:

I have word 2010 and jaws 14. The command to read the
formatting is
insert F. For the line number the command is insert
delete.Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: checkig format

Locate the file then hit the application key and arrow up til
you get
to "properties" then root jaws to pc and hit control + home
and
work
your way down with the down arrow.

Sent from my Super-Desktop
www.facebook.com/groups/vitechtalkandmore

-----Original Message-----
From: Lovette Yewchan
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checkig format

Hi there. I have Jaws 14 and windows 2013.
How would I check the formatting of a document?
Thanks.


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