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Re: Reading PDF Files with JAWS 15 and Playing DVD's

Soronel Haetir
 

How exactly are you trying to read it? I won't be able to help you
without knowing that.

On 12/5/13, Harris, Robert <harris.robert@epa.gov> wrote:
Nope its not, just blank???

-----Original Message-----
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Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:28 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading PDF Files with JAWS 15 and Playing DVD's

Some PDF files are only accessible via OCR, but most these days are
accessible, it all depends on what files exactly you are trying to access.
The PDF format even has publisher control over whether screen readers have
access to the underlying text, so that even if the file is not made up of
scanned images it might still be locked against access. And even OCR might
not be possible as that requires that the document be printable and the
publisher can secure the document against that as well.

Also, I would highly recommend that you not try and view PDF files in the
browser, even when I could still see that rarely worked for me.
Far better to install the Adobe Reader viewer and use that outside any
browser.

A test to see if it is the files you have been trying to access, I know the
file at http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/12-929_olq2.pdf is
accessible as I read that this morning. If you try that file and can read
it then you know it's the files you've been trying to use, if not then we
can discuss exactly what you have done to try and read PDFF files.

On 12/3/13, Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@optonline.net> wrote:
I noticed that some of the discussion here concerns two topics that
still have me baffled, no matter which version of JAWS I'm using. I
have upgraded to the current, JAWS 15, but I honestly don't know how
to make PDF files "talk". Is it possible that PDF files are only an
image or visual, and that there is no series of steps that will get
the files to "talk" to me like emails and the internet does?



Also, I had a bluray compatible drive installed in this computer.
Sadly, I did none of the "building" of this computer myself, so I
don't know if the person who sold me this computer really knew what he
was doing, but the free trial of DVD Fab Media Player works for me,
and I'm thinking of buying the program when the trial is up because it
works so easily.



Sadly, trial versions don't always allow for all the features that
would work much easier if you had the physical program to actually
load, and I've had nothing but problems with Windows Media Player, so I
gave up on that.



My hope is that future tutorials on JAWS features a section that talks
about which programs JAWS is most compatible with when it comes to
playing media, especially in a world where more people are depending
on their computers as a kind of "entertainment system", and I
recommend people buy bluray compatible drives, because I have found
that bluray systems are fantastic for playing just about anything!
They play standard DVD's better than the standard DVD players ever
did!



I just thought I'd throw that idea out there in case some folks are
still wrestling with drives or programs that won't play media
properly. It is a shame that media companies won't build into each
physical disk they manufacture the ability to allow screenreaders to
actually read the fancy menus. My favorite disks are the made on
demand (M.O.D.) disks, because there are *NO* such fancy menus. You
usually just arrow down to the next "chapter" or bit of information on
the disk and hit ENTER on it and it will play nicely.



So there are my gripes and bits of hopefully helpful info in my
continuing challenge (ugh!) to get this new computer working as I
would hope a new computer would work!



Kevin Wollenweber

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Re: Reading PDF Files with JAWS 15 and Playing DVD's

Harris, Robert <harris.robert@...>
 

Nope its not, just blank???

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:28 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading PDF Files with JAWS 15 and Playing DVD's

Some PDF files are only accessible via OCR, but most these days are accessible, it all depends on what files exactly you are trying to access. The PDF format even has publisher control over whether screen readers have access to the underlying text, so that even if the file is not made up of scanned images it might still be locked against access. And even OCR might not be possible as that requires that the document be printable and the publisher can secure the document against that as well.

Also, I would highly recommend that you not try and view PDF files in the browser, even when I could still see that rarely worked for me.
Far better to install the Adobe Reader viewer and use that outside any browser.

A test to see if it is the files you have been trying to access, I know the file at http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/12-929_olq2.pdf is accessible as I read that this morning. If you try that file and can read it then you know it's the files you've been trying to use, if not then we can discuss exactly what you have done to try and read PDFF files.

On 12/3/13, Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@optonline.net> wrote:
I noticed that some of the discussion here concerns two topics that
still have me baffled, no matter which version of JAWS I'm using. I
have upgraded to the current, JAWS 15, but I honestly don't know how
to make PDF files "talk". Is it possible that PDF files are only an
image or visual, and that there is no series of steps that will get
the files to "talk" to me like emails and the internet does?



Also, I had a bluray compatible drive installed in this computer.
Sadly, I did none of the "building" of this computer myself, so I
don't know if the person who sold me this computer really knew what he
was doing, but the free trial of DVD Fab Media Player works for me,
and I'm thinking of buying the program when the trial is up because it
works so easily.



Sadly, trial versions don't always allow for all the features that
would work much easier if you had the physical program to actually
load, and I've had nothing but problems with Windows Media Player, so I gave up on that.



My hope is that future tutorials on JAWS features a section that talks
about which programs JAWS is most compatible with when it comes to
playing media, especially in a world where more people are depending
on their computers as a kind of "entertainment system", and I
recommend people buy bluray compatible drives, because I have found
that bluray systems are fantastic for playing just about anything!
They play standard DVD's better than the standard DVD players ever
did!



I just thought I'd throw that idea out there in case some folks are
still wrestling with drives or programs that won't play media
properly. It is a shame that media companies won't build into each
physical disk they manufacture the ability to allow screenreaders to
actually read the fancy menus. My favorite disks are the made on
demand (M.O.D.) disks, because there are *NO* such fancy menus. You
usually just arrow down to the next "chapter" or bit of information on
the disk and hit ENTER on it and it will play nicely.



So there are my gripes and bits of hopefully helpful info in my
continuing challenge (ugh!) to get this new computer working as I
would hope a new computer would work!



Kevin Wollenweber

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Re: balloons

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

In windows 8 it's windows key u, then the rest is still the same.

So, adding that in combined with the below, it will look like this:
Press windows key u, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link
and press Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification
Dialogs Stay Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty
seconds or 1 minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons
hanging around too long; they might block access to other items on the
screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: balloons

In Windows 7, press the Windows Key and type ease into the search box. Then
press Enter on Ease of Access Center. When the Ease of Access Center
appears, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link and press
Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification Dialogs Stay
Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty seconds or 1
minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons hanging around
too long; they might block access to other items on the screen.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mario Brusco
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
heard,
I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10 seconds.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: balloons

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Lauren. What I would suggest, if you have Windows8, is to call:
Microsoft's Disability Services

800-936-5900


Ask them how to navigate to the Ease Of Access Center or its equivalent in Windows8, and how to lengthen the time the balloon remains on the screen. They usually are on the screen for about five seconds. My advice is to lengthen the time to about 30 seconds, so speech can finish before you click the balloon.

Thank you.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: balloons

Gary King
 

Unless there's a Windows 8 user who can give us an update to the extending the time that balloons stay open procedure, it would make sense to try the steps as outlined; it might very well be the same in Windows 8.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Problem is: he has already stated that he has Windows8.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Brusco" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


for windows 7: go to ease of access center, use computer without a display,
how long should notification dialogs remain open. change selection to 15
seconds.

windows vista followed a similar path, I think.

windows xp requires a registry change, but can't remember which key needed
to be adjusted.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mario Brusco
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
heard,
I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10 seconds.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: balloons

Gary King
 

In Windows 7, press the Windows Key and type ease into the search box. Then press Enter on Ease of Access Center. When the Ease of Access Center appears, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link and press Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification Dialogs Stay Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty seconds or 1 minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons hanging around too long; they might block access to other items on the screen.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mario Brusco
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is heard,
I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10 seconds.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: flash player problem

Gary King
 

Gery,
If the designers of the course took accessibility into consideration, labeled the buttons, and provided actual text or audio, then JAWS should be able to access the content; if not, you are out of luck! I would do some major complaining!

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

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From: "Gery Gaubert" <GGaubert@stcharlessheriff.org>
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:46 AM
Subject: flash player problem


I have a class online that I have to take for my job but it uses flash and I can hear jaws saying the buttons and start and all but nothing happens. Is there a way to get jaws to work with flash or is this as good as it gets?

Gery D. Gaubert
Assistant, Information Technology Administrator
St. Charles Parish Sheriff's Office
office (985) 783-0208
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Re: balloons

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Problem is: he has already stated that he has Windows8.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Brusco" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


for windows 7: go to ease of access center, use computer without a display,
how long should notification dialogs remain open. change selection to 15
seconds.

windows vista followed a similar path, I think.

windows xp requires a registry change, but can't remember which key needed
to be adjusted.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mario Brusco
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
heard,
I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10 seconds.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: balloons

Mario
 

for windows 7: go to ease of access center, use computer without a display,
how long should notification dialogs remain open. change selection to 15
seconds.

windows vista followed a similar path, I think.

windows xp requires a registry change, but can't remember which key needed
to be adjusted.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mario Brusco
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
heard,
I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10 seconds.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



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Re: flash player problem

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Some flash videos don't have voice, and the text is a picture. So If you can't hear any audio, you're in the same boat as most of us.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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Subject: flash player problem


I have a class online that I have to take for my job but it uses flash and I can hear jaws saying the buttons and start and all but nothing happens. Is there a way to get jaws to work with flash or is this as good as it gets?

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Gery Gaubert <GGaubert@...>
 

I have a class online that I have to take for my job but it uses flash and I can hear jaws saying the buttons and start and all but nothing happens. Is there a way to get jaws to work with flash or is this as good as it gets?

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Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Charles Coe
 

Hi,

First there are tutorials for using Win 7 from ATI that will teach you all
about Win 7 with JAWS 14 available through the following web site:

www.blindtraining.com

The cost is $90.00 via download.
The other way is through FS Training webinars some of which are free.
Available through this web site:

www.freedomscientific.com

Find the training link then click on it. Tab down until you find the free
training archives. Here you will find a list of training webinars including
the Win 7 basic training webinar.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Charles, I'm wondering where I can get an introduction to windows 7? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Coe" <charlesmar@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:33 PM
Subject: RE: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010



Tom,

Try this web site it gives a list of key commands with explanation for
powerpoint and other applications as well.

Charles



www.shortcutworld.com
Go to the OS system you are using then you will find a list of
applications,
powerpoint will be one of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Hi,Lisa.

I'm actually looking for using jaws with powerpoint 2010-type tutorials.

I have a list of helpful Jaws commands for Powerpoint, but I think it's
for
Powerpoint 2003. And, I find the list doesn't have much explanatory info
to
go along with the commands.

I have the following links to some more-general powerpoint tutorials, but
they are obviously for earlier versions.

http://www.utexas.edu/disability/ai/resource/tutorials_classes/JAWS/ppt_buil
d_basic07.htm

http://www.utexas.edu/disability/ai/resource/tutorials_classes/JAWS/ppt_over
view.htm

Again, I'm using Windows 7, Office 2010, and Jaws 14 here.

I would think a list of basic jaws commands with some helpful explanatory
information would be sufficient for my purposes.

Thanks for your question.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisa L.
Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Are you looking for general tutorials or using JAWS with PowerPoint
2010-type tutorials?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 1:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Mario:

Well, in my current teaching job, I'm not sure how much I'll actually need
to use powerpoints, so don't know if I can justify myself or my University
purchasing any tutorials, but will certainly keep this in mind if the need
is greater than I think it will be.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario Brusco
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

FS has tutorials you can purchase for Powerpoint 2010. ATI has tutorials
for
2013you can purchase, but not sure about 2010.
If you're looking for free tutorials, I'm not sure what's out there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 04, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010


Hi.



Does anyone have a link to an easy-to-understand tutorial for Powerpoint
2010?



I have some older tutorials here, but since I now have Powerpoint 2010
both
at home and at work, I'm not sure whether they would be useful.



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Re: mouse over

Charles Coe
 

Hi Tom,

Press INSERT+CTRL+ENTER


Charles

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williams
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 2:01 AM
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Subject: mouse over

How do you click on a mouse over link?


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Re: balloons

Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@...>
 

Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mario Brusco
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is heard,
I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10 seconds.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: balloons

Mario
 

Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is heard,
I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10 seconds.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: balloons

George B
 

when you hear the balloon do a left mouse click twice with the num pad /
which is equivelent of a left mouse click. after you do this the window for
the balloon opens

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 21:59
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: balloons

How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



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Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

The "say-all" command no longer seems to work in 2010, but merely tabbing to the appropriate field causes JAWS to read the complete text. The newer PowerPoint began working for me when I realized all I had to do was keep it simple.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Hi, again, Lisa.

I'll definitely check out the F1 help menu list of free training courses.

I'm not sure if I need an entire course, but maybe there is a command list in there somewhere that is fairly easy to understand.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisa L. Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

If you open PowerPoint 2010, then go to the help menu (F1), then there is a tab entitled "Training Courses." This takes you to a page that lists several free training courses for PowerPoint 2010 - some fairly generic, some specialized topics.


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisa L. Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 2:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Are you looking for general tutorials or using JAWS with PowerPoint 2010-type tutorials?


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 1:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Mario:

Well, in my current teaching job, I'm not sure how much I'll actually need to use powerpoints, so don't know if I can justify myself or my University purchasing any tutorials, but will certainly keep this in mind if the need is greater than I think it will be.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

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Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

FS has tutorials you can purchase for Powerpoint 2010. ATI has tutorials for 2013you can purchase, but not sure about 2010.
If you're looking for free tutorials, I'm not sure what's out there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 04, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010


Hi.



Does anyone have a link to an easy-to-understand tutorial for Powerpoint 2010?



I have some older tutorials here, but since I now have Powerpoint 2010 both at home and at work, I'm not sure whether they would be useful.



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mouse over

thomas williams
 

How do you click on a mouse over link?


Re: Windows class reassign question

Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@...>
 

Will this work when the problem control is only found via route JAWS to PC cursor mode and not while in PC cursor mode?

----- Original Message -----
From: Soronel Haetir
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Windows class reassign question


yes, you can try a different class by using the reclass window again,
that dialog also has the ability to remove a reclass entry.

If no existing window class works then you may have to delve into
providing your own scripts to enable jaws to work with the program in
question.

On 12/4/13, Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@clear.net> wrote:
> What if the reclassification does not work? Can I try another
> reclassification? What about deleting the wrong classifications. How is it
> done.
>
> Thank you so very much!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Soronel Haetir
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Windows class reassign question
>
>
> handle values are entirely dynamic, they will change from program run
> to program run.
>
> You only use window class re-assign if the window is not working.
>
> As an example for accessing certain Microsoft programming
> documentation I use a non-Microsoft program called "h3 viewer", the
> program uses a non-standard tree view with class "TTntTreeView" and
> under the default jaws configuration there are some problems using
> this control.
>
> I used the reassign window class to tell jaws to treat that window
> class as if it were "TreeView" (the standard tree view window class)
> instead and the problems went away.
>
> On 12/4/13, Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@clear.net> wrote:
> > Using insert+ctrl+F1 on properly labeled buttons and functioning
> controls as
> > an experiment within an application to learn here reveals the
> following,
> >
> > Window Technical Information:
> > ABOUT Button
> > Control ID 1055
> > Class Button
> > Handle 1573758
> >
> > HELP Button
> > Window Technical Information:
> > Control ID 99
> > Class Button
> > Handle 1180786
> >
> > Minimize Button
> > Window Technical Information:
> > Control ID 1063
> > Class Button
> > Handle 1114974
> >
> > CLOSE Button
> > Window Technical Information:
> > Control ID 1065
> > Class Button
> > Handle 4523038
> >
> > List View
> > Window Technical Information:
> > Control ID 1014
> > Class SysListView32
> > Handle 4195418
> >
> > Questions,
> >
> > With the Handle info in my above examples can one look up a list of
> handles
> > to see what they are? The class info is obvious like button or list view
> in
> > my above examples. What about for control Id?
> >
> > I opened my application.
> > Placed focus on a working control just for a test. A button.
> > Press insert+7 on the number row.
> > I get this dialog screen.
> > First thing I have is the New Class: Button
> > This is correct as it is a button.
> > If I tab over one time I get this Assign To: list with 30 items to
> choose
> > from.
> > What is this? Please go into details if you can.
> > Is this where I reassign a non working class?
> > Say the button is supposed to act like a drop down. Is this where I do
> the
> > setting in the Assign to: list?
> > Give me an example.
> >
> > If I tab one time I have this empty item.
> > What is this?
> > Then OK and cancel buttons.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Soronel Haetir
> > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: Windows class reassign question
> >
> >
> > That depends on how closely the problem window behaves like the newly
> > assigned window class.
> >
> > On 12/4/13, Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@clear.net> wrote:
> > > By using this window class reassign will the problem control
> function
> > > correctly after giving it the proper class?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ann Byrne
> > > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 7:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Windows class reassign question
> > >
> > >
> > > To read the window class information, with JAWS 14 and 15 and
> > > probably earlier, press insert+ctrl+f1. In my e-mail programs
> while
> > > in the list of e-mails, 'listbox' is the second or third item in
> the
> > > info that JAWS speaks with this keystroke.
> > >
> > > To go to the window class info for an application, press
> insert+f7,
> > > or find it in the JAWS manager list with insert+f2. If you change
> a
> > > class, it will be listed in the reassign dialog along with a
> delete
> > > option.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > >
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Re: word & excel finding files question in office 2013

Michael Boyd <mikeboyd61@...>
 

Hi Lauren,

If you save all of your word and excel files in the same folder, with the folder open, and no files selected, you can open the context menu and click on "Sort By", then on "Type". This will put all of the excel documents and word files in separate groups, and I believe, alphabetically. Or, you can have a separate folder to save each type of file in, and they should by default be sorted alphabetically. But, by doing this, you will have to open the files directly from the folder(s) that you have them saved in. Secondly, sometimes, when you save a file, for some reason that I do not know the answer to, Windows will create a new folder to put that file in. It has not happened that often to me, but when it does, I simply move the file to the original folder, and delete the new one.

hth,
Mike

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From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:02 PM
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: word & excel finding files question in office 2013

I use Windows 8.1, Jaws 14 & Office 2013. How can I find an alphabetic
listing of all files in Word & Excel? I sometimes get this in Word, but
never in Excel, which only lists my recent files & I have to scroll through
the whole list to find what I want.



In Word 2013, I recently saved a file to my flash drive. Now, when I save a
file it saves it in "documents button". When I go to attach that file in
Outlook, the list does not contain it though I think I'm looking in the
documents folder. When I reopen Word, it lists 2 documents button folders
and I do find it. I am very confused.



Please help; thanks.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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