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Firefox Alerts?

Brad Martin
 

Long-time JAWS user, new to this list.

Just got JAWS 15 with Windows 7 on a brand new PC, and I'm finding that for some things, like Facebook, Firefox functions better than Internet Explorer 10 for me. One hitch: Firefox prompts you with notifications or alerts or whatever the proper term is. For instance, "Do you want FireFox to remember this password?" Unlike Internet Explorer, where Control N will give you the notification bar and allow you to respond, I'm finding that Firefox reads some of your options to you, and then the alert seems to disappear. In the above example, I think it says Alt R is remember, but it doesn't ever finish reading the rest of my choices, and when I try to tab through them, they're gone. I had thought my problem was due to my old computer, my old version of JAWS, or my old version of Firefox; but now I've got new everything with the same old problem. I've googled, I've checked the FS website, and for the life of me I can't figure out the proper way to handle these types of alerts. Sorry if I'm overlooking something obvious, but surely someone else has had this problem before me.

Thanks in advance,
Brad Martin


jaws 14 and windows 8.1 - opinion

Amir <mrdin8877@...>
 

Hi,
anyone here using windows 8.1 with jaws 14?
it's better to upgrade to jaws 15 on windows 8.1 or i can just stay to jaws 14 if i can't hav jaws 15 on windows 8.1?
will it works with the store and other windows 8.1 modern apps?
besides, do you experienced mirror driver error?
i use portable version of jaws and got that error.
please share your thoughts!

thanks!


Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

John Chan <aznboyz4sho@...>
 

Use photo story

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:38 PM, "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Mario:

Well, in my current teaching job, I'm not sure how much I'll actually need
to use powerpoints, so don't know if I can justify myself or my University
purchasing any tutorials, but will certainly keep this in mind if the need
is greater than I think it will be.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario Brusco
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

FS has tutorials you can purchase for Powerpoint 2010. ATI has tutorials for
2013you can purchase, but not sure about 2010.
If you're looking for free tutorials, I'm not sure what's out there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 04, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010


Hi.



Does anyone have a link to an easy-to-understand tutorial for Powerpoint
2010?



I have some older tutorials here, but since I now have Powerpoint 2010 both
at home and at work, I'm not sure whether they would be useful.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Spotify program called Blind spot

John Martyn
 

The app is called Blind Spot. There is some concerns that I am going to
address if this is an actual program or some kind of hacker attempt to
trick the blind into getting a free login. I'll report the results this
weekend.
John Martyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of MJ Williams
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 5:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Spotify program called Blind spot

What's the app called, please?
Matt

At 03:56 05/12/2013, you wrote:
I recently ran across a new program that makes spotify accessibility
possible from a stand alone application. Trouble is, you need a premium
account to log in to the application. The app is free and claims to
work for all screen readers. As an option if you didn't want to pay for
the premium price every month I will continue to provide support for
spotify with JAWS scripts. I am also working with Spotify on changing
some things so that very little scripting is needed and works better.
Anyone with the knowledge of this new app do let me know how it is. I
am tempted to pay the price and see just what it offers.

Thanks,

John Martyn

www.SpotifyBlind.com



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Re: OT OpenBook with Hovercam

Paul Faucheux
 

hi james openbook wont work with the hover cam 5tv that is only available if you use docuscan plus


Re: OT OpenBook with Hovercam

Dave...
 

Very likely Openbook does not allow the use of any camera except its
proprietary Pearl camera. And I notice that the Pearl camera drivers are not
available for other scanning apps - drat.

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and
woodworker.
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Lee" <jameslee303@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: OT OpenBook with Hovercam


Fixed. I just needed to install the twain driver.

JL
On 12/6/2013 11:00 AM, James Lee wrote:
Hi All,

Hope this is not too much OT.
I just got a hovercam t5v, but Openbook doesn't display it in the list
of device. Does Openbook only allow pearl camera, not third party
document cameras?
Thanks,

JL

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Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Gary King
 

Also, keep in mind that the word Java can refer to 2 entirely different things. You have the Java programming language for developing cross-platform applications, and you have Java Script for developing dynamic web pages. The only thing they have in common is Java in their names. So, the Java Access Bridge is not going to make any difference accessing web pages that use Java Script.

The Java Access Bridge works in combination with Java to make Java applications accessible to screen readers. This can only happen if the developer of the Java applications used accessible Java elements in the creation of these applications.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


Mike and anyone else interested,

The concern was about security, and I believe it was Homeland that issued the warning. Oracle, which now owns Java, announced it issued a fix, but it didn't allay Homeland's concerns.

Java used to be critical for navigating Amazon, but I no longer find that's true. There are workarounds for at least some other Java-related problems.

I just Googled the subject. Instead of giving the link to just one story, I think you'll find the results page contains a range of information:

https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=when+did+the+federal+government+issue+warning+about+java%3F&oq=when+did+the+federal+government+issue+warning+about+java%3F&gs_l=hp.3...5959.14303.0.15041.57.46.0.7.7.1.441.5769.23j12j4j4j1.44.0....0...1c.1.32.hp..29.28.1624.aLSN34mh9gY

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 9:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Hey, I have never heard that. I would like to read it some time. Maybe that
is the cause of my computer doing strange things.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 5:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

A year or so ago, the federal government issued a rare and surprising
warning about the risks entailed in Java that persuaded me and many other
computer users to remove it from our systems. I have no reason to believe
that this alert also applied to Java Access Bridge. But if JAV can work to
make Java-based applications accessible without Java being installed on a
PC, it would be great.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 5:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

No, it will not hurt anything. In fact, it will probably give more
functionality in some of your apps. I keep this enabled on my PC as well.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave "Farfar" Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:44 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Don't know, but I've just selected it to see if anything changes.
Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and
woodworker.
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


Hi
While in the Ease of Access Center I did find the combo box to change the
notifications to 30 seconds instead of the default 7 seconds. While I was
there I stumbled upon this unchecked checkbox for Enable Java access
Bridge.
I have seen some chat sites requiring this java access bridge. Will it
hurt
anything to enable this java access bridge? Vista Home 32 bit.



----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: balloons


In windows 8 it's windows key u, then the rest is still the same.

So, adding that in combined with the below, it will look like this:
Press windows key u, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display
link
and press Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification
Dialogs Stay Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes.
Thirty
seconds or 1 minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons
hanging around too long; they might block access to other items on the
screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: balloons

In Windows 7, press the Windows Key and type ease into the search box.
Then
press Enter on Ease of Access Center. When the Ease of Access Center
appears, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link and
press
Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification Dialogs
Stay
Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty seconds
or
1
minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons hanging
around
too long; they might block access to other items on the screen.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


> Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mario Brusco
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: balloons
>
>
> Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon
is
> heard,
> I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
> I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10
seconds.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
> Subject: balloons
>
>
> How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
> instance,
> when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
> available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it.
The
> message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?
>
>
>
> I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
> different
> between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office
2013
> applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have
to;
> thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Lauren
>
>
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Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Michael Boyd <mikeboyd61@...>
 

Mike,

Have you downloaded and installed the Access Bridge from Oracle? It will not show up in the list if it is not on your computer.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mike B." <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 10:39 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Hi All,

When in the Ease of Acdess Center I'm not finding the checkbox to Enable the
Java access Bridge. Would someone please give me a hard shove in the right
direction? I've opened several links & don't know if I'm just overlooking
it or what. Running Windows7 Pro 64 bit & Jaws 13 thru 15. All help will
be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my ILazyBoy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Boyd
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


No, it will not hurt anything. In fact, it will probably give more
functionality in some of your apps. I keep this enabled on my PC as well.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave "Farfar" Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:44 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Don't know, but I've just selected it to see if anything changes.
Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and
woodworker.
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


Hi
While in the Ease of Access Center I did find the combo box to change the
notifications to 30 seconds instead of the default 7 seconds. While I was
there I stumbled upon this unchecked checkbox for Enable Java access
Bridge.
I have seen some chat sites requiring this java access bridge. Will it
hurt
anything to enable this java access bridge? Vista Home 32 bit.



----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: balloons


In windows 8 it's windows key u, then the rest is still the same.

So, adding that in combined with the below, it will look like this:
Press windows key u, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display
link
and press Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification
Dialogs Stay Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes.
Thirty
seconds or 1 minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons
hanging around too long; they might block access to other items on the
screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: balloons

In Windows 7, press the Windows Key and type ease into the search box.
Then
press Enter on Ease of Access Center. When the Ease of Access Center
appears, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link and
press
Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification Dialogs
Stay
Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty seconds or
1
minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons hanging around
too long; they might block access to other items on the screen.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


> Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mario Brusco
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: balloons
>
>
> Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
> heard,
> I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
> I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10
seconds.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
> Subject: balloons
>
>
> How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
> instance,
> when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
> available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it.
The
> message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?
>
>
>
> I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
> different
> between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office
2013
> applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
> thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Lauren
>
>
>
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Re: OT OpenBook with Hovercam

James Lee
 

Fixed. I just needed to install the twain driver.

JL

On 12/6/2013 11:00 AM, James Lee wrote:
Hi All,

Hope this is not too much OT.
I just got a hovercam t5v, but Openbook doesn't display it in the list of device. Does Openbook only allow pearl camera, not third party document cameras?
Thanks,

JL


Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

When in the Ease of Acdess Center I'm not finding the checkbox to Enable the
Java access Bridge. Would someone please give me a hard shove in the right
direction? I've opened several links & don't know if I'm just overlooking
it or what. Running Windows7 Pro 64 bit & Jaws 13 thru 15. All help will
be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my ILazyBoy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Boyd
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


No, it will not hurt anything. In fact, it will probably give more
functionality in some of your apps. I keep this enabled on my PC as well.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave "Farfar" Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:44 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Don't know, but I've just selected it to see if anything changes.
Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and
woodworker.
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


Hi
While in the Ease of Access Center I did find the combo box to change the
notifications to 30 seconds instead of the default 7 seconds. While I was
there I stumbled upon this unchecked checkbox for Enable Java access
Bridge.
I have seen some chat sites requiring this java access bridge. Will it
hurt
anything to enable this java access bridge? Vista Home 32 bit.



----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: balloons


In windows 8 it's windows key u, then the rest is still the same.

So, adding that in combined with the below, it will look like this:
Press windows key u, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display
link
and press Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification
Dialogs Stay Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes.
Thirty
seconds or 1 minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons
hanging around too long; they might block access to other items on the
screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: balloons

In Windows 7, press the Windows Key and type ease into the search box.
Then
press Enter on Ease of Access Center. When the Ease of Access Center
appears, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link and
press
Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification Dialogs
Stay
Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty seconds or
1
minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons hanging around
too long; they might block access to other items on the screen.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


> Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mario Brusco
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: balloons
>
>
> Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
> heard,
> I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
> I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10
seconds.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
> Subject: balloons
>
>
> How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
> instance,
> when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
> available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
> message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?
>
>
>
> I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
> different
> between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office
2013
> applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
> thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Lauren
>
>
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Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Adrian Spratt
 

Mike and anyone else interested,

The concern was about security, and I believe it was Homeland that issued the warning. Oracle, which now owns Java, announced it issued a fix, but it didn't allay Homeland's concerns.

Java used to be critical for navigating Amazon, but I no longer find that's true. There are workarounds for at least some other Java-related problems.

I just Googled the subject. Instead of giving the link to just one story, I think you'll find the results page contains a range of information:

https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=when+did+the+federal+government+issue+warning+about+java%3F&oq=when+did+the+federal+government+issue+warning+about+java%3F&gs_l=hp.3...5959.14303.0.15041.57.46.0.7.7.1.441.5769.23j12j4j4j1.44.0....0...1c.1.32.hp..29.28.1624.aLSN34mh9gY

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 9:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Hey, I have never heard that. I would like to read it some time. Maybe that
is the cause of my computer doing strange things.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 5:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

A year or so ago, the federal government issued a rare and surprising
warning about the risks entailed in Java that persuaded me and many other
computer users to remove it from our systems. I have no reason to believe
that this alert also applied to Java Access Bridge. But if JAV can work to
make Java-based applications accessible without Java being installed on a
PC, it would be great.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 5:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

No, it will not hurt anything. In fact, it will probably give more
functionality in some of your apps. I keep this enabled on my PC as well.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave "Farfar" Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:44 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Don't know, but I've just selected it to see if anything changes.
Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and
woodworker.
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


Hi
While in the Ease of Access Center I did find the combo box to change the
notifications to 30 seconds instead of the default 7 seconds. While I was
there I stumbled upon this unchecked checkbox for Enable Java access
Bridge.
I have seen some chat sites requiring this java access bridge. Will it
hurt
anything to enable this java access bridge? Vista Home 32 bit.



----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: balloons


In windows 8 it's windows key u, then the rest is still the same.

So, adding that in combined with the below, it will look like this:
Press windows key u, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display
link
and press Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification
Dialogs Stay Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes.
Thirty
seconds or 1 minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons
hanging around too long; they might block access to other items on the
screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: balloons

In Windows 7, press the Windows Key and type ease into the search box.
Then
press Enter on Ease of Access Center. When the Ease of Access Center
appears, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link and
press
Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification Dialogs
Stay
Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty seconds
or
1
minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons hanging
around
too long; they might block access to other items on the screen.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


> Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mario Brusco
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: balloons
>
>
> Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
> heard,
> I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
> I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10
seconds.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
> Subject: balloons
>
>
> How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
> instance,
> when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
> available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it.
The
> message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?
>
>
>
> I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
> different
> between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office
2013
> applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
> thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Lauren
>
>
>
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OT OpenBook with Hovercam

James Lee
 

Hi All,

Hope this is not too much OT.
I just got a hovercam t5v, but Openbook doesn't display it in the list of device. Does Openbook only allow pearl camera, not third party document cameras?
Thanks,

JL


Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Michael Boyd <mikeboyd61@...>
 

Hey, I have never heard that. I would like to read it some time. Maybe that is the cause of my computer doing strange things.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 5:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

A year or so ago, the federal government issued a rare and surprising warning about the risks entailed in Java that persuaded me and many other computer users to remove it from our systems. I have no reason to believe that this alert also applied to Java Access Bridge. But if JAV can work to make Java-based applications accessible without Java being installed on a PC, it would be great.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 5:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

No, it will not hurt anything. In fact, it will probably give more
functionality in some of your apps. I keep this enabled on my PC as well.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave "Farfar" Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:44 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Don't know, but I've just selected it to see if anything changes.
Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and
woodworker.
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


Hi
While in the Ease of Access Center I did find the combo box to change the
notifications to 30 seconds instead of the default 7 seconds. While I was
there I stumbled upon this unchecked checkbox for Enable Java access
Bridge.
I have seen some chat sites requiring this java access bridge. Will it
hurt
anything to enable this java access bridge? Vista Home 32 bit.



----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: balloons


In windows 8 it's windows key u, then the rest is still the same.

So, adding that in combined with the below, it will look like this:
Press windows key u, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display
link
and press Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification
Dialogs Stay Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes.
Thirty
seconds or 1 minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons
hanging around too long; they might block access to other items on the
screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: balloons

In Windows 7, press the Windows Key and type ease into the search box.
Then
press Enter on Ease of Access Center. When the Ease of Access Center
appears, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link and
press
Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification Dialogs
Stay
Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty seconds or
1
minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons hanging around
too long; they might block access to other items on the screen.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


> Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mario Brusco
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: balloons
>
>
> Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
> heard,
> I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
> I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10
seconds.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
> Subject: balloons
>
>
> How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
> instance,
> when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
> available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it.
The
> message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?
>
>
>
> I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
> different
> between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office
2013
> applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
> thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Lauren
>
>
>
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Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Adrian Spratt
 

A year or so ago, the federal government issued a rare and surprising warning about the risks entailed in Java that persuaded me and many other computer users to remove it from our systems. I have no reason to believe that this alert also applied to Java Access Bridge. But if JAV can work to make Java-based applications accessible without Java being installed on a PC, it would be great.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 5:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

No, it will not hurt anything. In fact, it will probably give more
functionality in some of your apps. I keep this enabled on my PC as well.

Mike

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave "Farfar" Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:44 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Don't know, but I've just selected it to see if anything changes.
Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and
woodworker.
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


Hi
While in the Ease of Access Center I did find the combo box to change the
notifications to 30 seconds instead of the default 7 seconds. While I was
there I stumbled upon this unchecked checkbox for Enable Java access
Bridge.
I have seen some chat sites requiring this java access bridge. Will it
hurt
anything to enable this java access bridge? Vista Home 32 bit.



----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: balloons


In windows 8 it's windows key u, then the rest is still the same.

So, adding that in combined with the below, it will look like this:
Press windows key u, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display
link
and press Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification
Dialogs Stay Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes.
Thirty
seconds or 1 minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons
hanging around too long; they might block access to other items on the
screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: balloons

In Windows 7, press the Windows Key and type ease into the search box.
Then
press Enter on Ease of Access Center. When the Ease of Access Center
appears, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link and
press
Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification Dialogs
Stay
Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty seconds or
1
minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons hanging around
too long; they might block access to other items on the screen.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


> Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mario Brusco
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: balloons
>
>
> Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
> heard,
> I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
> I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10
seconds.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
> Subject: balloons
>
>
> How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
> instance,
> when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
> available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
> message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?
>
>
>
> I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
> different
> between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office
2013
> applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
> thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Lauren
>
>
>
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Re: Spotify program called Blind spot

MJ Williams <matthewjwilliams101@...>
 

What's the app called, please?
Matt

At 03:56 05/12/2013, you wrote:
I recently ran across a new program that makes spotify accessibility
possible from a stand alone application. Trouble is, you need a premium
account to log in to the application. The app is free and claims to work for
all screen readers. As an option if you didn't want to pay for the premium
price every month I will continue to provide support for spotify with JAWS
scripts. I am also working with Spotify on changing some things so that very
little scripting is needed and works better. Anyone with the knowledge of
this new app do let me know how it is. I am tempted to pay the price and see
just what it offers.

Thanks,

John Martyn

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Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Michael Boyd <mikeboyd61@...>
 

No, it will not hurt anything. In fact, it will probably give more functionality in some of your apps. I keep this enabled on my PC as well.

Mike

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From: "Dave "Farfar" Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:44 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons

Don't know, but I've just selected it to see if anything changes.
Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and
woodworker.
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Ease Of Access Center Enable Java Bridge Topic was balloons


Hi
While in the Ease of Access Center I did find the combo box to change the
notifications to 30 seconds instead of the default 7 seconds. While I was
there I stumbled upon this unchecked checkbox for Enable Java access Bridge.
I have seen some chat sites requiring this java access bridge. Will it hurt
anything to enable this java access bridge? Vista Home 32 bit.



----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: balloons


In windows 8 it's windows key u, then the rest is still the same.

So, adding that in combined with the below, it will look like this:
Press windows key u, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display
link
and press Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification
Dialogs Stay Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes.
Thirty
seconds or 1 minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons
hanging around too long; they might block access to other items on the
screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: balloons

In Windows 7, press the Windows Key and type ease into the search box.
Then
press Enter on Ease of Access Center. When the Ease of Access Center
appears, tab over to the Use the Computer without a Display link and press
Enter. Next, tab to the How long should Windows Notification Dialogs Stay
Open combo Box and choose from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Thirty seconds or
1
minute should be adequate. I wouldn't want those balloons hanging around
too long; they might block access to other items on the screen.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


> Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mario Brusco
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: balloons
>
>
> Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
> heard,
> I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
> I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10
seconds.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
> Subject: balloons
>
>
> How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
> instance,
> when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
> available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
> message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?
>
>
>
> I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
> different
> between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office
2013
> applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
> thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Lauren
>
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Re: balloons

Lauren
 

Thank you for the number. FI, for Windows 8.1, I tried the steps suggested
with Windows 7 and was able to find the ease of access center. Under start,
I typed in ease of access and then down arrowed until I found the ease of
access center and pressed enter. Pressing the space bar with Jaws 14 did not
do anything. Then, I located the display step and was able to change it to
30 seconds.

Is there a way to hear a balloon that has gone away or do I have to restart
the PC?


Sincerely,

Lauren

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: balloons

Hi, Lauren. What I would suggest, if you have Windows8, is to call:
Microsoft's Disability Services

800-936-5900


Ask them how to navigate to the Ease Of Access Center or its equivalent in
Windows8, and how to lengthen the time the balloon remains on the screen.
They usually are on the screen for about five seconds. My advice is to
lengthen the time to about 30 seconds, so speech can finish before you click
the balloon.

Thank you.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



Lauren



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Selection in JAWS

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hi guys: With the installation of JAWS 15, I have been gifted with a new
little annoyance in Word If I hit control-shift-right arrow in a document,
or even in this message I'm writing, JAWS says "control-shift-right arrow"
and not the word. If I hit control-shift-left arrow, JAWS says
"control-shift-left-arrow" and then reads the word, which it didn't do when
I went forward. What setting do I adjust?

Thanks.


Gudrun Brunot

To read about my translation/interpreting services and hear audiosamples
from my CD, please visit gudrunbrunot.com


Re: balloons

Michael Boyd <mikeboyd61@...>
 

That's OK, I am running 8.1, and just made the change on my laptop.

Mike

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From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:11 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: balloons

Problem is: he has already stated that he has Windows8.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Brusco" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


for windows 7: go to ease of access center, use computer without a display,
how long should notification dialogs remain open. change selection to 15
seconds.

windows vista followed a similar path, I think.

windows xp requires a registry change, but can't remember which key needed
to be adjusted.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrogia@clear.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Where do you lengthen the time for the balloons if you remember.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mario Brusco
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: balloons


Lauren, what I do is as soon as the "updates are ready..." balloon is
heard,
I quickly left click (numpad /) provided that JAWS is ready.
I also lengthened the disappearance of the balloon from 7 to 10 seconds.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 05, 2013 12:59 AM
Subject: balloons


How can I click on a balloon to accept what it wants me to do? For
instance,
when I start up my PC, I get a Jaws message saying that updates are
available for Office 2013 and to click on the balloon to start it. The
message goes away and I don't know how to find it again?



I am using Windows 8 and Jaws 14? A side question: is there a big
different
between Jaws 15 & 14 for its performance with Windows 8.1 & Office 2013
applications? I don't want to pay the extra $100+ if I don't have to;
thanks.





Sincerely,



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Re: Windows class reassign question

Soronel Haetir
 

It's the three state check box, the states are checked, unchecked and
"don't care". I don't have an example handy of where you can see it
used though.

On 12/5/13, Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@clear.net> wrote:
Does anyone know what the 3State window class is that I see when I do
insert+7 on the problem control?



----- Original Message -----
From: Soronel Haetir
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Windows class reassign question


yes, you can try a different class by using the reclass window again,
that dialog also has the ability to remove a reclass entry.

If no existing window class works then you may have to delve into
providing your own scripts to enable jaws to work with the program in
question.

On 12/4/13, Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@clear.net> wrote:
> What if the reclassification does not work? Can I try another
> reclassification? What about deleting the wrong classifications. How is
it
> done.
>
> Thank you so very much!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Soronel Haetir
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Windows class reassign question
>
>
> handle values are entirely dynamic, they will change from program run
> to program run.
>
> You only use window class re-assign if the window is not working.
>
> As an example for accessing certain Microsoft programming
> documentation I use a non-Microsoft program called "h3 viewer", the
> program uses a non-standard tree view with class "TTntTreeView" and
> under the default jaws configuration there are some problems using
> this control.
>
> I used the reassign window class to tell jaws to treat that window
> class as if it were "TreeView" (the standard tree view window class)
> instead and the problems went away.
>
> On 12/4/13, Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@clear.net> wrote:
> > Using insert+ctrl+F1 on properly labeled buttons and functioning
> controls as
> > an experiment within an application to learn here reveals the
> following,
> >
> > Window Technical Information:
> > ABOUT Button
> > Control ID 1055
> > Class Button
> > Handle 1573758
> >
> > HELP Button
> > Window Technical Information:
> > Control ID 99
> > Class Button
> > Handle 1180786
> >
> > Minimize Button
> > Window Technical Information:
> > Control ID 1063
> > Class Button
> > Handle 1114974
> >
> > CLOSE Button
> > Window Technical Information:
> > Control ID 1065
> > Class Button
> > Handle 4523038
> >
> > List View
> > Window Technical Information:
> > Control ID 1014
> > Class SysListView32
> > Handle 4195418
> >
> > Questions,
> >
> > With the Handle info in my above examples can one look up a list of
> handles
> > to see what they are? The class info is obvious like button or list
view
> in
> > my above examples. What about for control Id?
> >
> > I opened my application.
> > Placed focus on a working control just for a test. A button.
> > Press insert+7 on the number row.
> > I get this dialog screen.
> > First thing I have is the New Class: Button
> > This is correct as it is a button.
> > If I tab over one time I get this Assign To: list with 30 items to
> choose
> > from.
> > What is this? Please go into details if you can.
> > Is this where I reassign a non working class?
> > Say the button is supposed to act like a drop down. Is this where I
do
> the
> > setting in the Assign to: list?
> > Give me an example.
> >
> > If I tab one time I have this empty item.
> > What is this?
> > Then OK and cancel buttons.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Soronel Haetir
> > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: Windows class reassign question
> >
> >
> > That depends on how closely the problem window behaves like the
newly
> > assigned window class.
> >
> > On 12/4/13, Petro T. Giannakopoulos <petrogia@clear.net> wrote:
> > > By using this window class reassign will the problem control
> function
> > > correctly after giving it the proper class?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ann Byrne
> > > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 7:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Windows class reassign question
> > >
> > >
> > > To read the window class information, with JAWS 14 and 15 and
> > > probably earlier, press insert+ctrl+f1. In my e-mail
programs
> while
> > > in the list of e-mails, 'listbox' is the second or third item
in
> the
> > > info that JAWS speaks with this keystroke.
> > >
> > > To go to the window class info for an application, press
> insert+f7,
> > > or find it in the JAWS manager list with insert+f2. If you
change
> a
> > > class, it will be listed in the reassign dialog along with a
> delete
> > > option.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > >
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